Album Rating: 4.0
from metacritic.com:
Nate O. gave it a 0:
"Thrice should not be recording music anymore. This record is awful. Bland, predictable."
John K gave it a0:
Absolutely awful. I liked thrice in the sub-city days, but these guys are way overstepping their musical boundaries. Bad Massive Attack-esque electro coats the second half, while the first half is completely monotonous color-by-numbers screamo. Do yourself a favor and break out Identity Crisis instead of wasting your money on a washed up album by a band trying to reinvent themselves.
Nick G. gave it a9:
Hey, I actually wrote the sputnikmusic review. I feel like other reviewers graded the notion of fulfilling the concept of the album as more of a literal fulfillment. They were peeved that fire maps to heaviness and water mapped to subdued tones. I guess I never really listened to each disc as an opportunity to fully render all of the implications and subtleties of an element, but more of a way to invoke an element by way of a composition. I dunno. To talk about the form of the discs some more they are analogous to two tone poems or song cycles rather than a larger scale symphony. The compositions are much more based on sentiment and and sensation rather than overarching structural progress and motivic development, which I think other reviewers tended to focus too much on. However, I do agree that if looking at it from that perspective Thrice is definitely lacking. Fire has those expected melodic and harmonic moments I mention in my review that definitely dumb down the rendering of fire. Either way, everybody should check out the disc.
god i miss this place sometimes
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Album Rating: 3.5
Although I liked this one a lot, I liked Vhiessu better. This is, of course, in the context of the new sound of Thrice. Im definitely anticipating earth and wind.
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"Open Water" is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard
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Album Rating: 4.0
The quiet 7/8 part where Dustin sing "Like hyrdrogen..." is beautiful, but the drum pattern is really just a 6/8 pattern with an extra snare hit at the end. Not to seem nit-picky, but I think the timing in that part is actually 7/4.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
Dude the divisions never matter. It's all in how you count it. The time is 7. Whether in 4ths or 8ths it probably doesn't matter at all.
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Album Rating: 4.0
You can tell if its 7/8 or 7/4 from where the beat accents fall can't you? I'm a music theory n00b so I could be totally wrong or that could just be the overly simple way of saying it.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
I mean ya you can but it all depends from your initial count off. My initial count is giving 1 measure to what some people might count as the first two measures. You can also count the first 4 measures as 1. All of those counts would alter how you count the 7 section so it doesn't really matter.
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Album Rating: 4.0
You are right, my bad.
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Yeah, I always LOLed at the fact that Nick references an 8/8 time signature in the A Types review, but I guess it doesn't matter if it's 8 or 4
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Album Rating: 4.0
you spelled 'hydrogen' wrong in the review.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Digital Sea was a good choice to start off Water, imo.
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Album Rating: 3.5
It is a good album but Vheissu made a bigger impression with me. 'The messenger' is horrible though and some songs lack variation like Digital Sea and The Arsonist. But overall it is a decent album.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Finally took the time to read all the way through this. Great review. This album is a grower for me, definitely.
In fact, "Night Diving" is the best song Isis never wrote.
Only part I don't really agree with. I don't think it's all that Isis-y.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
Have you heard the Isis song "Weight?" Thrice copies their guitar tone, production techniques, and undulating bass line a lot on "Night Diving."
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I can't get into this at all. It all seems really self-indulgent.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Not being a Thrice fanboy, I'm rather disappointed in myself for falling in line and giving this a 4, but it really deserves it. Took me a while to get into it, but now I think this is better than Vhiessu.This Message Edited On 11.01.07
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Album Rating: 3.5
I've resisted commeting/voting to make sure I wasnt missing anything on this but after a couple weeks I think I got it. I've always felt weird about thrice because they're talked about as being a punk band when they're really just a hard rock band.
I think this album illustrates that even more. That being said, there is some really great stuff on here. As cloes to a 4 as 3.5 could be for me.This Message Edited On 11.02.07
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Album Rating: 3.5
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
I've always felt weird about thrice because they're talked about as being a punk band when they're really just a hard rock band.
Then you haven't always been aware of Thrice. Their first three CDs were massively influenced by punk and hardcore. Also, if you call them hard rock after their most recent release, you're neglecting the Water disc.
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Album Rating: 3.5
I think you'd have a hard time convincing any "hardcore" fan over 19 that even Identity Crisis, TIOS, and TAITA are hardcore. I'll give you that they're all great albums though.
Both discs are essentially concept EP's and it can be diffcult to label a band into a genre when they begin writing concept material. I think that hard rock is still fitting with the majority of their work.
Disagree?This Message Edited On 11.02.07
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