Paradise Lost Draconian Times
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Pikazilla
October 16th 2019


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This is better than Icon

KjSwantko
October 16th 2019


12568 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"this was the biggest fall from a 5.0 rating I've ever experienced lol"



Yeah man- I keep this at a 5 due to nostalgia and it does still rule overall, but the few times I've listened in recent years agreed it does not have the punch it once did.



Source
October 16th 2019


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Am I missing something here? This just sounds like Black Album/Load Metallica if they shopped at Hot Topic and went to a liberal arts school"





still the most strangely accurate description ever

Ocean of Noise
October 16th 2019


11368 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't love this album for its punch... I love it for how well crafted it is. The songs, arrangements and production are just so consistently well done.



It's as close as PL ever got to perfection.

ChaoticVortex
October 17th 2019


1616 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Ocean of Noise gets it.

Sabrutin
October 17th 2019


9843 Comments


Does this band even have an "electronic era" outside of Host?

Willie
Moderator
October 17th 2019


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Kind of. One Second had a lot of electronics.

Willie
Moderator
October 17th 2019


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Looking at their discography, I would consider 'One Second' through the 'Self Titled' as the electronic-influenced era.

Pikazilla
October 17th 2019


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think they have a solid discography throughout - bar the debut.

DoofDoof
October 17th 2019


17366 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

it's not really an electronics phase



it's more their Depeche Mode period

Willie
Moderator
October 17th 2019


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

--I think they have a solid discography throughout - bar the debut--

Agreed.



--it's not really an electronics phase. it's more their Depeche Mode period--

I can see that being a more accurate description. It's hard to hear 'Host' and think of any other band besides Depeche Mode.



Casavir
October 17th 2019


5676 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The debut's good though.

Willie
Moderator
October 17th 2019


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I don't like it. Especially when you consider other doom debuts that came out around the same time, like My Dying Bride and Anathema. Paradise Lost's was definitely the bottom of those three.

Casavir
October 17th 2019


5676 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Around the same time? Dude, OK, they both came out in the early '90s but Lost Paradise predates both of the other bands' debuts by a good 2 or three years. On top of that, it has loads of awesome riffs and notable moments while still managing to create a sinister atmosphere.

Sabrutin
October 18th 2019


9843 Comments


Yeah the sinister atmosphere is delicious in the debut, as cliché of an expression as it is it really sounds like a haunted cathedral. It also did the "beauty and the beast" vox thing before Gothic even though people always give credit to Gothic for that.

Willie
Moderator
October 18th 2019


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

--Around the same time? Dude, OK, they both came out in the early '90s but Lost Paradise predates both of the other bands' debuts by a good 2 or three years. On top of that, it has loads of awesome riffs and notable moments while still managing to create a sinister atmosphere.--

Ha ha. So maybe my memory was a little hazy on the actual dates. My first introduction to doom was Anathema's debut, and then I bought My Dying Bride's "Turn Loose The Swans" album and Paradise Lost's "Icon". Those were the only three albums I played for weeks. It's probably also why I don't really like MDB's pre-Turn Loose the Swans stuff or Paradise Lost's pre-Icon stuff... because I started with their classics.

Space Jester
October 18th 2019


11561 Comments


You rattled the cage Wille.



The Cassie Cage

Casavir
October 18th 2019


5676 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"Cassie"



I do not approve of this nickname.

bloc
October 19th 2019


70880 Comments


I approve

Donchivo
October 27th 2019


2250 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I just revisited this one after like 10 years.and wow! It aged better than I expected. Unlike the review stated, I think the variety of moods and tempo is what impresses me most. Seeing how difficult it can be to do Gothic metal in a not samey way... Excellent album and by far the best in a somewhat up and down discography for me



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