Sufjan Stevens Carrie and Lowell
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neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I guess Age of Adz is the only real Sufjan for me :/

theBoneyKing
October 26th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is the only real Sufjan for me

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Don't get me wrong, this is his second best album but yeah, Age of Adz all the way

WatchItExplode
October 26th 2017


10707 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It's all Sufjan, only the presentation differs. The Carrie and Lowell live is sonically more in line with Age of Adz than this. At the core is always earnest and delightful songwriting. For whatever reason Sufjan really seems to heap on the zazz from time to time but it's always just Sufjan being Sufjan. For the love, anybody else familiar with his version of "Do You Hear What I Hear"? He will stretch an idea threadbare, but that's his prerogative.

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Maybe I'd prefer this live

WatchItExplode
October 26th 2017


10707 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Maybe, try it. I feel like it loses a little of the immediacy but plenty of folks went nuts for it.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

If I had to rank the main Sufjan albums besides the first 2, it'd be this>Illinois>Michigan>Seven Swans>Planetarium>Age of Adz none below 8/10



Live version of this is just as good imo, and has some new arrangements

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

If y'all are interested I just put my ranked list up and it's basically the opposite of what Talons just said

DoofusWainwright
October 26th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Then it is wrong

WatchItExplode
October 26th 2017


10707 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Adz>C&L>All Delighted People>Illinoise>Seven Swans



never much cared for Michigan and I wouldn't rank the rest alongside the quality albums above

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Literally one step away from my ranking

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This and Illinois are two of the best albums of the century so far imo

Sowing
Moderator
October 26th 2017


45556 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This is miles better than anything else he has done.

JWT155
October 26th 2017


15041 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Eh his whole catalog is very solid sowing. I agree this is his best but I think "miles better" is an exaggeration and underplays how great of an artist he is.

Sowing
Moderator
October 26th 2017


45556 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

he's a great artist indeed, but this is truly on another level

the only moment in his discog I prefer to this is Impossible Soul, but the rest of Age of Adz was pretty bad in my honest opinion

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Impossible Soul only gets really great when it turns into a folk song at the very end; the first 20 minutes is good, but pretty overblown, like other parts of that album.

This and Illinois are pretty much tied for me. John Wayne Gacy and Casimir are just as moving as the best tracks here imo

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

How can you not like Age of Adz, tis his best ):

neekafat
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Calling Age of Adz overblown and then saying Illinois is his best is a joke right?

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 26th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

They're both overblown but Age of Adz moreso and has some parts that annoy me, but as I recently mentioned in another thread it's still 8/10 for me.

WatchItExplode
October 26th 2017


10707 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I just see John Wayne Gacy in type and start to tear up. Quite possibly the most moving moment in his discog. Yeah I find Illinois so much more frivolous and self-indulgent than Adz. Happy to see a similar opinion here neek.



I would happily remove the majority of interludes on Illinoise and shave the runtime 15-20minutes. There is nothing I would want to remove from Adz, and those superb bookends make everything in between that much more worthwhile.



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