Modest Mouse The Moon & Antarctica
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Kompys2000
December 10th 2020


9483 Comments


Reconstruction Site is good and all but cmon Johnny

Also I've never really thought of TDAG as "indie" but I won't disagree it's on a comparable level of quality

SandwichBubble
December 10th 2020


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Nux vomica? ain't that a kinda plant? plants can't play guitar



also

"vaguely contemp. emotionally driven treatises of guitar indie"

Staff reviewer status has finally enveloped Johnny's brain

look what they did to my poor boy...

Kompys2000
December 10th 2020


9483 Comments


I guess my parameters for "indie" are a lot narrower than a lot of people's tho, like for example the flaming lips are not indie in my mind so even though they have like 3 albums I like more than this I stand by my original statement

Tangential note but I actually went through my music library the other day and re-tagged everything that was categorized as "indie rock" because I don't think it's actually useful as a genre descriptor.

SandwichBubble
December 10th 2020


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Sounds like a lot of effort.

Just use it to mean "independent rock."

Just as god intended.

JohnnyoftheWell
December 10th 2020


64287 Comments


and so it once was
and then modest mouse signed to a major label
and made an album about isaac brock's thoughts and feelings about his life and death in the modern universe
and it was alright, the band was altogether [indie]

SandwichBubble
December 10th 2020


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

🙏 Amen.

I know it's not a catch-all, but aside from the few albums that are dubiously indie (this being one of them), all the actual indie rock I listen to is on indie labels.

Gotta have faith in your taste.

Kompys2000
December 10th 2020


9483 Comments


Still, I don't really find that a practical categorization, like what does describing something as "independent rock" actually tell me about what a band or a song sounds like? Can a non-indie act write an "indie song"?

For the record I have the same issue with "alternative rock" and many subgenres of hip hop ("east coast hip hop", "conscious rap", etc.)

JohnnyoftheWell
December 10th 2020


64287 Comments


Alternative rock is in the kinda prog territory where new stuff only gets called alt rock if it's derivative of alt rock (and therefore usually sucks for days)
Indie ig works insofar as it references stuff that is actively not top-stream chart mainstream, but also it's unhelpful because literally everyone is consuming literally everything all the time and the indie market is big enough to be its own mainstream now

Kompys2000
December 10th 2020


9483 Comments


Exactly. Calling Tame Impala or Mac Demarco indie is useful insofar as it describes the cultural niche they occupy and the demographics they're popular with but if we're discussing their actual sonic pallette I'm going to call them neo-psych or bedroom pop or something that actually evokes a musical aesthetic

Pikazilla
December 10th 2020


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Damn, I still got to listen to anything by The Veils. Reconstruction Site is legit awesome.

AngryLittleAlchemist
December 26th 2020


2167 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It's all about the moderate climates...



You gotta be cold and be hot for sure

onionbubs
May 13th 2021


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

back up to the ol 5. foundational high school record for me glad its holding up



night on the sun def needs a home somewhere here tho. i have it in place of rat since that's a slight step down, already on parlour tricks and the acoustic outro on night flows so nicely into the start of lives

Ryus
May 13th 2021


37885 Comments


night on the sun would be so good on this
rat is awesome tho

letsgofishing
May 13th 2021


1721 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, this is a fucking masterpiece. Getting pumped for my twice a decade Modest Mouse discography relisten, in preparation for their very mediocre new album, which I'll fucking love anyway because it's Modest Mouse.



It's a sacred time for me.

Ryus
May 13th 2021


37885 Comments


used to like this more than tlcw but i think now tlcw has overtaken this. both 5s tho so

letsgofishing
May 13th 2021


1721 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

TLCW is like a 4.8 because Truckers Atlas is three minutes too long. It what it is.

Ryus
May 13th 2021


37885 Comments


more like 3 minutes too short :O

truckers atlas is one of my favs, love the extended jam. long distance drunk is the one that held me back from a 5 before but fuck it

Pangea
May 13th 2021


10946 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

^agreed (with letsgofishing)

onionbubs
May 13th 2021


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

tlcw is probably also a 5 and is about as consistent as this. i just prefer what this record is going for

Pikazilla
May 13th 2021


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

tlcw takes a massive dump on this and flushes it down the toilet of mediocrity



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