Album Rating: 3.5

Look I have bad memories associated with Pantera and their music and their personal lives don't exactly help matters tbh.

Pantera is easily one of the worst bands I’ve ever heard in my entire life

Album Rating: 3.5

They're like the soundtrack to an abusive household. Really can only stomach the slow songs/ballads at this stage.

Why would you want to

Album Rating: 3.5

man idek anymore. feel like people always come in trying to change my mind on everything and are shocked when it doesnt work.

Have you considered telling them to eat your shorts and that album is butts

Album Rating: 3.5

looking at their 5's and noticing fkin Iced Earth or something usually does the trick :^)

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

To be fair, cemetery gates is an incredible song, but I have also been hard soured on Pantera over the years (I know that song is on Cowboys From Hell, not Vulgar Display of Power). RIP to quite a few members of that band, but they were one of those "holy shit our guitarist is a once in a lifetime talent and the rest of us are kind of riding off of that" bands, with the exception of their drummer, who also ruled.

Album Rating: 3.5

cemetery gates is the only one i even actively still sort of enjoy with any sort of passion lol

Iced earth is even worse than pantera

Just listen to Chad shit like Doopee time

Album Rating: 3.5

Jon Schaffer is beyond reprehensible. also it's funny how phil spent 20+ years repping the confederate flag and is only just now getting mad at their fans for holding up a sign with the flag lol like bro YOU caused that

Album Rating: 2.0

Yea, never really got on the Pantera train either



Pretty sure I tried out their higher avg stuff at some point and didn't care for anything I heard

Album Rating: 1.0

Focus on the music, not the personal lives of the band members

Album Rating: 1.0

Otherwise we can throw out a lot of records



Most musicians are assholes



Jimmy Page had a "baby groupie", a 14-year-old girl that was practically his girlfriend



Steven Tyler, David Bowie, the list goes on and on



If you cannot separate music and the creators of the music, almost nothing will remain

Album Rating: 1.0

veninblazer if you like Cemetary Gates, I recommend Hollow, This Love and Floods

Album Rating: 3.5

Hollow is fine, This Love gets absolutely ruined by the needlessly aggro hook (his persona just ruins anything hyper aggro they do for me... it'd probably work in the hands of someone like Alexi Laiho - and it has, Needled 24/7 anyone?), Floods left very little impression on me.

I get how difficult it is to avoid it. But the Jimmy Page thing is partially why I typically don't go out of my way to listen to Zeppelin much. That and the fact that insane Zeppelin worship brought us Greta Van Fleet and it kinda bogged down the OGs to me even.

I can separate it if what they did wasn't super extreme, but these days I don't listen to All That Remains much especially with Labonte's doubling down on bigotry all the time. He hasn't changed since the time he called Andy Biersack the F slur one bit.

Pantera's aura just feels like the type of atmosphere I wouldn't want to be around and be comfortable with. Minus the aura I still wouldn't be too terribly favorable tbf but it'd be more indifference.

'In 2023, Labonte became a regular recurring guest on Tim Pool's nightly political podcast'

lol

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah bro didn't even try to get with the times after calling a band gaining popularity homophobic slurs (and I get that a lot of people hated them and I'm not the biggest fan either but jfcccc) he just doubled down and started getting worse

Album Rating: 1.0

'If you cannot separate music and the creators of the music, almost nothing will remain'

true, but this ignores an important aspect that's almost unavoidable when listening to music like Pantera... it's impossible to separate their personalities / image with their 'sound'. It's bloody marketed as knuckle-headed toxic masculinity bollocks. It's pretty much their whole schtick. Does that mean there aren't musicians out there that have done as bad or worse things? Definitely not. It does however make them unbearable to actually tolerate from a music consumption perspective. I can't just switch that off and enjoy the music.

you gave examples of musicians who've had under-age 'relations' yet when I put their music on, do I hear that? No, I don't. Selfishly, I can tune that sort of thing out. Certain specificities and situations DO make me very uncomfortable and there are artists I'd struggle to listen to because of that, but they are few and very far between.