Album Rating: 4.0
"no one will reallt know what happened if anything"
I think it's not that hard to piece it together when you watch their interviews over the years and their statements during this era and post-disbandment.
I think it came down to different values and lifestyles, which is something that Ben has directly stated as well. They seem very far apart nowadays. Ben has always been a fairly conservative guy in disposition. He's straight edge, has kids and an animal farm and his only indulgence is coffee.
Greg used to be straight edge as well actually, but post-Ire Works he started doing hard drugs, had that whole mushroom episode which forced Ben to come out with a statement essentially saying how he does not want this kind of behavior associated with the band. He started dating pornstars and the like, and I think he really fell into that LA lifestyle and crowd. I don't think Ben enjoyed that.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Also not for nothing, but even though Greg is doing okay musically, he kind of looks like a shell of himself nowadays. He's lost a ton of weight and has very obviously had plastic surgery done on his face, he's looking more and more like Mickey Rourke. Dude honestly looks chopped.
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Album Rating: 4.0
maintaining his physique he had in his 20s and 30s (which was really good too) gets harder and harder as you enter your 40s i guess
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Album Rating: 3.5
Saw Greg with Better Lovers in April and his stage presence is still as good as it was in the Dillinger days
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Album Rating: 5.0
ya they rule live. seeing them at our little dive was some of the most fun I’ve had at a show in a long time.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Seeing Better Lovers at a small venue in Australia in just over two weeks. First gig in agessss. So pumped.
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ben seems like a giant pussy and greg seems like a reckless douche, can see why they would clash lmao
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Album Rating: 5.0
Tbf Ben was looking after who joined the band at 13 and also had to be the face and manage the band as a bussiness.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Wouldn't say Ben seems like a giant pussy, he seems very opinionated and principled, there's a difference.
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yeah i'm just talking shit lol i'm sure they're both cool. actually I ran into greg for like 2 seconds before the show the only time I got to see them and he said what's up and seemed nice
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Album Rating: 4.5
I'm glad I've seen (and remember seeing) DEP four times way back in the day. They blew me away each and every time.
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Album Rating: 5.0
I only got to see them once on their very last tour but it was fucking killer
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Album Rating: 5.0
Limerent Death is one of their very best songs , along with Sunshine the Werewolf, Farewell Mona Lisa and When Good Dogs Do Bad Things.
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Album Rating: 5.0
I only got to see them once but it was so worth it, it was an incredible gig.
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Album Rating: 5.0
Yeah, I saw them open for Deftones on the Koi No yokan tour at the Hollywood Palladium.
Phenomenal.
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nerds
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Album Rating: 4.7
Men.
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Album Rating: 5.0
Fuck it, it’s a 5. Listened about a half dozen times in a row last night. Finally came to the conclusion.
And to think I first rated this at a 4. For shame.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Yeah the emotions here are pretty fantastic
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Album Rating: 5.0
Hell yeah brotha. I think I’d actually call this possibly their most consistent, and it has some of their highest points/best songs to boot.
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