ISIS Wavering Radiant
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DopeFiend
January 8th 2020


509 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Hot take: Mosquito control is top 3 isis

bananatossing
January 10th 2020


2658 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Man I admire Aaron Turner a lot, but his opinion on Wavering Radiant and ITAOT doesn't change how I feel about them at all.



AT: " I think the playing and the style of Wavering Radiant was very comfortable, it was like we knew what we were doing, we knew what we were good at as a band, not as individuals and we just did that. It was kind of like refining a template that we had already set out two or three records prior versus pushing ourselves to really do something different."



His opinion is respectable but that's just... his opinion. The talent of all members is what makes this record amazing. Even though they were just "playing a role" they very much succeed at that. That's called talent, Aaron.



AT: "I want to focus on my own work, and I want to run a label kind of the way I did when Hydra Head first started, where I found people who were doing things I liked, that I thought were important, but I didn’t want to be the vehicle for other people’s ambitions."



He basically wanted to have more control and now has it with Sumac. Again, totally respectable.



"The years from basically around 2003 or 2004 through the end of the band were probably some of the worst years of my life. I was in a really awful relationship with a woman who was just really not good for either of us. I smoked a shit-ton of pot to try and numb myself from that and even from some of the things in ISIS that were really bothering me. And I think that the more that relationship went on, and the more pot that I smoked, and the more ISIS moved away from what I wanted it to go, the more I shut down and checked out. "



A desire for more control plus the emotional detachment from this point in life affected his view on Isis and specially the last two records. I understand where he is coming from, I really do, but Isis will remain my favorite post-metal band ever because they worked perfectly together in a way post-2000 Neurosis doesn't do it for me, or most of Cult of Luna (except SATH, which is perfect and I need to listen more to the most recent one).



Flashmobba
January 10th 2020


3466 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

also soooo damn good



what's better though, this or In The Absence?

benkim
January 10th 2020


4813 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Absence is only just slightly better for me

MiloRuggles
Emeritus
January 10th 2020


3242 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This for lyrics, Absence for variety

parksungjoon
January 10th 2020


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

is isis the best band ever made





























prob

nightbringer
January 13th 2020


2937 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

So I've tried a handful of times to get into Panopticon but it's never fully clicked. This album, however, is blowing me away right now. Strikes me as way more interesting.

Flashmobba
January 14th 2020


3466 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Ghost Key is quite simply one of the greatest songs of all time, this album keeps surprising me (probably my favorite now)

teamster
January 15th 2020


6464 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The production here is without a doubt the best in post metal.

sizeofanocean
January 15th 2020


3767 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Production is really stellar, though i feel this is their only album which leans more towards progressive metal rather than post

Viriathus
January 15th 2020


3570 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

20 Minutes / 40 Years has always been one of my favorite songs by this band.

bananatossing
January 16th 2020


2658 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"what's better though, this or In The Absence?"



I love both but I prefer Wavering Radiant. I think both of them have a very "unique" feel in terms of atmosphere, and judging by that alone I would go with Absence; the vocal melodies on Wavering, though, are on point, the growls sound incredible (Stone to Wake A Serpent gets me every time), the heavier parts have more punch, and it is by far their best produced record. Absence is a little bit more free form also, where this feels a little bit more calculated and it benefits from that as it doesn't waste a single second.

Sevengill
January 16th 2020


13163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Absence does have that "we wrote this while recording it" feel sometimes, so the highs are very high and the rest kinda meanders around with some good but underdeveloped ideas. that said, there's some charm to such an approach and it mirrors the concept of Dox Quixote searching for his dream girl. this is much tighter but when I'm not listening to it, I feel like it's a little homogenous and lacks real "wow" moments a la Dulcinea and Garden of Light.

Flashmobba
January 16th 2020


3466 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

see I love Absence cus theres more songs and more variety, but with that theres also more margin for error. some of the tracks there, while great, also kinda feel like duds some days. Whereas with this one, it's concise, brutal and absolutely beautiful, with tons of atmosphere. I mean the way this one is bookended is unreal, prolly gonna 5 this soon

bananatossing
January 16th 2020


2658 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I agree with both of you. Absence was my favorite at some point so I get the appeal, but after all these years I realized I'd trim a few parts from it (very little, anyways), where I wouldn't change a single thing from this.

bananatossing
January 16th 2020


2658 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Oh, both Absence and Wavering are bookened perfectly.

Flashmobba
January 16th 2020


3466 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yessir, what're your top 5 isis tracks?

Sevengill
January 16th 2020


13163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

not that I was asked, but Carry, Garden of Light, Backlit, Beginning and the End, The Red Sea

Flashmobba
January 16th 2020


3466 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

niiice, backlit is hella underrated imo



for me it's prolly ghost key, grinning mouths, dulcinea, weight and in fiction

Sevengill
January 16th 2020


13163 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

last four are all huge climaxes. can't go wrong.



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