The Dillinger Escape Plan Dissociation
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Wildcardbitchesss
October 2nd 2023


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

By far. I don’t really have any interest in anything he’s doing after this.



Ben always seemed so nice but damn he’s sounding like an asshole here

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
October 2nd 2023


19063 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

has ben even done anything post-dillinger besides suicidal tendencies?



also was doing some reddit digging and saw claims that pretty much anytime anyone left this band it was always ben and only ben they had issues with. i'm a relatively new fan of this band though so i have no way of knowing if that's even remotely true. feels like greg always gets pinned as a douchebag who is hard to work with (and greg does himself no favors with the way he comes off in interviews) but the more reading i do the more it seems ben is just as/if not more responsible for the drama

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
October 2nd 2023


19063 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Yeah, Ben wanted to out Greg but somehow ended up looking worse than Greg."



lol he almost makes me feel bad for greg. imagine pouring 15 years into pushing a band to the absolute top of its genre only for said band to end because the founding member essentially took his ball and went home and then belittled your contributions to said band for the proceeding five years (apparently this isn't the first time he's said stuff like this)

Faraudo
October 2nd 2023


5395 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Well, maybe Ben with his apparently easygoing personality is the one that's difficult to work with behind closed doors, at least that's how he's portraying himself in this particular interview.

JohnnyoftheWell
October 2nd 2023


64287 Comments


ngl I have absolutely no problem viewing Dillinger as Ben's baby and whoever was involved at whichever point as a trusted extra - think the way their discog has aged points to him as the X-factor, with all their drummers as incredible performers and Greg as an obviously super talented purveyor of influences and inflections that, while mostly well-executed (up until this album) aren't nearly as peerless or exceptional as the rest of their schtick. I feel that Irony set the ball rolling for them artistically, and that while MM was great as an aggro/hxc follow-up and OP polished their sound to perfection, none of the Patton- or Reznor-isms Greg brought to the table ever advanced the blueprint on what made em great. guy's harshes were easily up to the task, but i'd never call Dillinger his band in the way i would Ben's (though I think it's right that Ben credited him with being indispensable to the band's evo)
so if Ben wants to be peeved/overly protective/a self-confessed control freak about the band's legacy and ownership, i could honestly care less. his project, his prerogative

IntoTheFire
October 2nd 2023


512 Comments


lol this reminds of when greg had that mushrooms episode and ben came out like "i don't want our band to be associated with this, when i write dillinger songs i write them in my basement with a pot of coffee"

Mort.
October 2nd 2023


26404 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

theyve always been pretty different people so it doesnt surprise me that they didnt carry on speaking after dillinger

ShadowOfTheCitadel
November 12th 2023


569 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"ngl I have absolutely no problem viewing Dillinger as Ben's baby and whoever was involved at whichever point as a trusted extra"



"Trusted extra" is a really shitty way to devalue the creative contributions of the rest of the band. Just sayin.

Wildcardbitchesss
November 12th 2023


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, I already hated Ben essentially calling Liam and Greg “hired guns”, and even Billy at this point. Maybe you could call Kevin that, he was only in the band for it’s last album cycle.

Zac124
March 20th 2024


4064 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Just found out that they had more tracks recorded from the Dissociation sessions and considered releasing it as a double album. I am assuming Happiness Is a Smile was one of them but I hope they release them all on streaming one day.

Wildcardbitchesss
March 20th 2024


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I hope so too, but given how fuckin petty Ben comes across as I wouldn’t be so sure.



My brother scooped up two tickets to see them in Chicago. Idk. Calculating Infinity is an amazing album but it’s not the band that I fell in love with, not really. If this were an actual Dillinger reunion I’d be all over it but im not sure if I feel like taking off work, booking a hotel, and traveling for this.



Oh well I have until August to decide.

Butkuiss
March 20th 2024


8746 Comments


You either die a Puciato or live long enough to see yourself become a Weinman.

Wildcardbitchesss
March 20th 2024


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

truer words were never spoken

Spec
March 20th 2024


41436 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He’s only considered an independent contractor so he doesn’t get TDEP health benefits smh.

Butkuiss
March 20th 2024


8746 Comments


Anyway regretfully I agree w Johnny on this one, also CI>>>> rest of their discog.

Confessed2005
March 21st 2024


7708 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Calculating Infinity is one of the best albums ever made.

Wildcardbitchesss
March 21st 2024


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think this, Ire Works, and Irony are all better but it’s a free for all after that. I really love all of their records

9Hammer
April 12th 2024


514 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Every time I come back to this, it's a mind-blowing experience.

Wildcardbitchesss
April 12th 2024


19771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I truly don’t understand how anyone that likes Dillinger can’t think this is a top tier record.



I think Symptoms of a Terminal Illness could’ve had a much catchier hook and that would’ve gone a long way. Fugue, despite being very enjoyable on its own, really doesn’t fit in with this album in any way.



Other than that, top tier shit from Dillinger. Top tier math/metal/whateverthefuck-core in general. Limerent Death, Low Feels Blvd (literally my psn tag), Honeysuckle, Surrogate, and Nothing to Forget are as high quality as you’re gonna get from any band in this genre.



And then they have the ability to pull together a song like Dissociation. If Greg and Ben ever really mended things and reunited, im honestly not sure if I’d want any new music. It’s like a tv series that had a pitch perfect finale. Dissociation is the best possible stopping point for this project.

BAT
April 12th 2024


2198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i'll probably bump this to a 5 but my only complaint is the songs should be like an extra two minutes each, lots of segues into different sounds than they just kinda end. straight up though this came out when i was in a pretty shitty mindset and hit me/clicked like nothing else at the time, i also got to see them a few weeks before it dropped and they destroyed



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