Album Rating: 3.5

'lol apparently Tillian follows Blair White, Candace Owens, libs of tik tok, etc. What a piece of shit'





ive been sceptical of tillian since that 'read some faulkner plato and some rand' lyric



buddy only two of those make you a more well read intelligent person, the other is literal brainrot material

Album Rating: 4.0

I got downvoted to oblivion on Reddit cause I said Tilian sounds like a chain-smoking Mickey Mouse and deserves disrespect due to the fact that he r***d somebody. Lmao. Man I hate DGD fans.

Did he actually rape someone? I tried reading that massive-ass post and skimmed over most of it. I saw that he slapped her around a bit which is obviously pretty fucked up. What exactly did he do?

Album Rating: 3.0

There's two (possibly three?) people that have come forward. One of them he slapped during sex, where after she told him that'd be okay if they had talked about doing stuff like that during sex beforehand, but it wasn't okay out of the blue (duh) and that it really hurt. He supposedly then just stared at her and slapped her again, hard enough to ''throw her hearing out of whack''.

The other he coerced into having sex with him. She clearly stated hours before that she didn't do sex on the first date but that oral was okay. She stated that he did not respect this boundary, even made fun of it and that she tried to push him away multiple times, telling him she did not want to have sex with him, to which he responded ''what does it matter, it's already been in your mouth'' and ''are you really going to stand your ground on this?'' after which she decided to give in only because she was scared of what would happen if she didn't. She texted him about this the next day, and he did not respond but did acknowledge the text message in his apology to her.

The third, I'm not sure. I've only seen pictures going around of a tweet made by a supposedly 19 year old girl, stating that ''it was a weird night w/ Tilian'' including a picture of them together, he was 28 at this time. He responded to this tweet apologizing for the way he acted towards her, but I don't know anything else about that particular accusation.

Okay got it. Yuck.

Those are the three instances that are detailed but there have been others kind of alluding to him being a creep and whatnot. Seems like a fairly open and shut case that he sucks

Album Rating: 3.0

I will say he was.. Odd when I spoke to him at the 10 year anniversary, can't quite put my finger on it, he definitely seemed more interested in talking to female fans. Jonny completely ignored me, but that might be because he got wasted the moment he knew he was no longer going to be on stage. I talked to Kurt and his then wife until we had nothing left to talk about, which was basically until the people of the venue asked me to leave and then some outside, nothing but genuine cool vibes from that guy.

It's kinda funny that Kurt seems like the only good guy and they gave him the rawest deal lol

Album Rating: 1.5

the second example Jadari listed is even worse when you read the whole thing

Album Rating: 5.0

jonny commented DBM3 on their ig announcement



i am deceased

jesus christ lol

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm picturing Jonny like Tyrone Biggums scratching his neck and asking the band if they have any more of those chances.

Album Rating: 4.5

lmao i mean i really want DBM3 but he might actually die if they tour on it at this point

When I saw him with them (on that three singer tour) his voice was baaaaarely there. He only just made it through a few songs.

Album Rating: 3.0

So the third allegation I mentioned was supposedly a 17 year old that lied about being 19, whom Tilian got drunk. Her friend went with them on the tourbus, saw Tilian acting in some way and had someone noitify Will to prevent anything bad from happening. This girl also has a short video of her being with Tilian on the tourbus. There's a ton of seemingly bad shit coming out about the other members now, including Andrew Wells, who only just joined.

Album Rating: 3.5

jesus christ. i saw some of the shit in the news thread.



the only thing that stood out to me as being a bit of a reach was one of them dating a 17 year old when they were 24. is it a bit suspicious? yes. is it a relationship which could have been abusive and built around an imbalanced power dynamic? yes



is it necessarily abusive and immoral? no. but i do understand why people bring it up and that it definitely could be. but to lump it in with confirmed cases of abuse is a bit of an overreaction i think

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

what shit is coming out about the other members? I saw some people saying the other guys aren't so innocent in the reddit thread but no accounts or statements, just rumour

Album Rating: 3.0

Will dating a 17 year old when he was 24 and Zach Garren disagreeing with that, which was apparently the reason he was kicked, Jon dating an 18 year old fresh out of highschool in his 30s (photo evidence) and Andrew apparently sexting/sending nudes to minors some six years ago. Last one has no real proof, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point. And I agree Mort, that's definitely the least.. Vile out of all of the accusations, but still considering everything else it still doesn't sit right with me.

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah i fully agree, it doesnt sit right with me either, and i personally wouldnt date anyone under 20 (im mid twenties)

Album Rating: 4.0

well, being in a band with a guy like that you're probably not totally not in the know...