t/t is not at all what I listen to this band for, but I can dig the first half. Coda way overstays its welcome and is a pretty corny note to bow out on imo

Album Rating: 4.2

Greg's vocals @ around 2:20 on Limerent Death are unbelieveable

Album Rating: 4.5

Limerent Death as the lead single AND album opener was such a smart move. It's probably the best single they ever put out, and it definitely set the right tone for their final album. What a way to go.

not a bad sendoff even if i didmt hear it til years after the drop

Album Rating: 5.0

Reminder Limerent deaths vocals where recorded in one take.



Seeing the new wave of Mathcore and after listening to that Better Lovers EP i am actually really kind of understanding Ben pulling the plug. Dont get me wrong it would be fucking amazing for them to come back. I think I understand what they meant by taking a bow and calling it quits at the top of their game. Letting new blood into the mathcore scene. Its been a treat to see Greg go out and do his own thing, Billy being unleashed to do.some insane drumming, Liam with Azusa and Ben starting his animal sanctuary and spending time with his family. I hope better lovers sticks I do but the ep didnt work for me

Try to listen to track 4 on the EP again. It's fantastic

Album Rating: 3.5

It's mid. Whole EP is mid

Album Rating: 5.0

https://metalinjection.net/interviews/ben-weinman-talks-the-dillinger-escape-plans-end-reunion-offers-life-after-the-band



this makes me very sad

Album Rating: 5.0

holy shit



lots of new info there that completely contradicts much of what's speculated about the breakup straight from the horse's mouth

Album Rating: 5.0

The fact that Ben and Greg haven’t spoken in five years hurts my heart

Album Rating: 5.0

was surprised to read that the band is done purely because ben doesn't want to do it anymore... and that greg actually seems up for a reunion if given the opportunity. i always got the exact opposite vibe from his interviews lol



when i caught greg's solo gig and he started singing dillinger a cappella i thought it came off kinda cheap but now it seems really sad in retrospect

Album Rating: 4.5

Damn, I thought they all collectively wanted to call it quits

Album Rating: 5.0

there’s a lot of resentment in those Better Lovers lyrics…

Album Rating: 4.5

Sounds like all of the other members just hate Greg, based on Ben's statements



Edit: wow those Better Lovers lyrics are definitely aimed at Ben lol

they don't hate Greg, Liam and Billy have since gone to Greg's shows for Better Lovers, etc

Ben just seems really cantankerous and bitter for no reason here. like, if there's nothing else to say, why blast Greg as being an independent contractor when you're getting paid playing in ST while reaping most of the profit off your legacy?

Album Rating: 5.0

I really thought maybe Jordan had input in those lyrics and it was aimed at Keith but now I’m definitely thinking Greg is just very angry about the whole thing.

Album Rating: 5.0

i don't necessarily think there is "no reason" for it, i assume its whatever greg and ben are always saying "they aren't gonna talk about"... but agreed that ben does not come off amazingly there.



both are prob better off just not talking about it anymore but something tells me greg will absolutely be responding to this somehow lol... is this the first time ben has spoken about it on a deeper level than the "final chapter" cliches?

Album Rating: 5.0

That I know of. Aside from promoting that fucking One of Us is the Killer comic I never see him say anything about Dillinger.



Ben calling Greg an “independent contractor” is so cold. Makes it sound like business over artistic expression.



Calculating Infinity is obviously incredible but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that without Greg the band would’ve never taken off like they did. To me Greg is just as integral to the band as Ben.

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, I really do not see this band getting back together for even a reunion now.

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, Ben wanted to out Greg but somehow ended up looking worse than Greg.