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Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


Yeah, As I Lay Dying is the only instance I can think of an individual fucking that bad and then coming back. Everything else I can think of has been the offender either coming back for their own project where they are the draw or starting a different project. If Tillian were to come back at all, then everyone in this band can kick rocks.

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


What did Issues do.....

TheSpirit
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Tyler groomed a 14 y/o

Jadari
June 3rd 2022


88 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I believe Tyler sexually assaulted a minor while drunk, his statement was the same old thing about ''oh right, power dynamics, whoopsie I forgot'' if I recall correctly. This was with a 14 year old. Fucking disgusting.

Trebor.
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

There's an interesting divide between belief and actions when it comes to fans being willing to keep listening



Like most reasonable fans will drop a band after they admit to sexual assault (actions)



But loads of black metal fans listen to Nazi bands (beliefs)

Jadari
June 3rd 2022


88 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeeeeah, don't think I could keep listening after finding out either tbh.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

"But loads of black metal fans listen to Nazi bands (beliefs)"



marge simpson hiding face behind hand meme

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


jesus christ. I love Issues and somehow didn't know that. That's terrible. It really is every fuckin band in this scene, huh lol

Trebor.
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Issues are unlistenable thankfully

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


I am sadly a sucker for their brand of rnb post hardcore. His vocals were the cherry on top but good on them for kicking that piece of shit out though.

Art vs. Artist will always be a complex and complicated issue (pun intended) and I typically think that comes down to individual choice. What's not up for debate, however, are the actions of the artist

Jadari
June 3rd 2022


88 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

After mentioning I the Mighty earlier, makes me think about how Tilian was featured on one of their tracks..

GarthAlgar
June 3rd 2022


990 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Another sexual assaulter bites the dust.

TheOldestManAlive
June 3rd 2022


10 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Wasn't Tyler like 17 or 18 at the time too though?

tellah
June 3rd 2022


1312 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'd be down for the band to go way more Jon-focused (kind of like secret band but still melodic), and have some additional vox from Andrew and Will. SA is obviously bad but I am hoping for some sort of change-up to their formula.

gravityswitch
June 3rd 2022


2448 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Can people in bands stop abusing girls or raping babies so I can listen to them thanks

tellah
June 3rd 2022


1312 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

^I can usually separate the art from the artist but lostprophets is my exception to that. Nasty-ass mofo

gravityswitch
June 3rd 2022


2448 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah same. Sucks because I kind of want to listen to Sway sometimes

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


lol apparently Tillian follows Blair White, Candace Owens, libs of tik tok, etc. What a piece of shit

tellah
June 3rd 2022


1312 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i only know blair white cause she got into beef with known predator onision, is she a pos? I know she has some far-right viewpoints.

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


She is a massive shill for rightwing orgs. Spends most of her time insisting she is the only good transwoman. She actually released a video saying that she was leaving the right and that nobody actually believes what they are peddling, but then deleted it and continues the grift. She is a terrible person. Beefing with Onision is just a broken clock being right twice a day



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