Album Rating: 4.5
Spoken like someone who hasn’t truly experienced a groundbreaking culturally relevant record that resonates beyond the norm.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Pls just go back to Radiohead and put out an album much better than MSP. This is peak Thom Yorke boredom
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Album Rating: 2.0
lol thats sum old man shit, I was around for TPaB for chrissakes
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Album Rating: 2.5
"Spoken like someone who hasn’t truly experienced a groundbreaking culturally relevant record that resonates beyond the norm."
you mean those one, two or three pub-discussion-albums from the 90s that rewired your brain in a way you still ain't adjusted to since?
gonna clarify that
"Feel that it's core demographic are the same people who thought that the latest Mogwai getting #1 was an augur of rock music's enduring significance"
wasn't even necessarily an indictment of rock as a whole, just a timely reminder that its case (and that of albums like these) is often argued all too zealously by people happy to prop up any old bilge
given the rest of the last page, it's aged much better than i could have hoped for a cold sputtake
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Album Rating: 4.5
You’re another one John.
Pimp a Butterfly a 5 is it?
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Album Rating: 2.0
Look man if you wanna sneer at me because I don't have your elevated taste that's fine, I won't take offense
Obviously I think TPaB is a 5, but I was moreso positing that it is a "groundbreaking culturally relevant record that resonates beyond the norm" which is actually unrelated to whatever arbitrary rating a sput user gives it. If you want to play that game, Midnights by Taylor Swift is more groundbreaking and culturally relevant than anything ever released by Radiohead as its resonated with more people than OKC ever will
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Album Rating: 4.5
I’d never sneer.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Buttery is a 3.5. GKMC ftw
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Album Rating: 2.5
Butterfly was a huge album at the time but “culturally groundbreaking” is some hyperbole if I’ve ever seen it
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Album Rating: 2.0
Good thing I only said it was groundbreaking and culturally relevant, but I agree that "culturally groundbreaking" is a much higher bar to clear. Do any Radiohead albums even reach that criteria?? Kid A maybe?
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Album Rating: 4.5
OKC.
Completely changed the dynamic of what was happening at the time. Was a contributing factor in killing off ‘Brit-pop’ garnered critical and commercial acclaim and produced live events that some would say are the greatest of all time. A revelation
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Album Rating: 4.0
Not many mainstream albums had the cultural message ‘OK Computer’ had between 94-97, if the whole album is effectively the expansion of ‘Fitter Happier’ in song then that’s culturally significant as the album was absolutely massive
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Album Rating: 4.5
And yeah it was built on the thoughts everyone had about what would happen as we stepped into the 21st century and became reliant on technology and the schism which would be caused in dehumanising ourselves.
Taylor Swift it weren’t
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Album Rating: 4.0
Spot on
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Album Rating: 4.0
"babe you 5'd AMSP and Dragon New Warm Mountain don't spiel about cohesion here"
AMSP ok fair, but DNWM is weirdly very cohesive, I think the tweak in styles keeps things interesting for a double album, but I think most of the songs flow really well into each other
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Album Rating: 2.0
That sounds extremely similar to what happened with TPaB tho, down to an interlude dissecting the intellectual intents of the project that stands out amongst the popular zeitgeist. I'm just trying to figure out what differentiates the cultural conversation around true classics like OKC from lesser, modern albums. When I think culturally groundbreaking, I think about albums that define genres, while other classics refine genres. Radiohead, as I understand them, were a fairly logicial continuation of post and experimental rock. Something like Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites is to my mind a much better example of a culturally groundbreaking album, in that it defined and created a new space in culture for its music. Overcompensating to appease antipop sentiment as a trope in rock music is far older than Radiohead, so even if they were appealing to an underrepresented sentiment at the time it wasn't any more original to the genre wide constraints of rock music than TPaB was to hip hop
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Album Rating: 4.5
The albums you mention make the zeitgeist question and not alter it
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Album Rating: 2.0
So because TPaB didn't solve racism its less important than an album that alayed fears about Y2K? They're very different conversations
Skrillex had nothing important to say, but he did popularize something new, which is, I think, higher than any art rock album can ever be on the totem of "cultural breakthroughs", but clearly we can't stick to one parameter so I'm not gonna defend that any more
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Album Rating: 2.5
TPaB definitely coincided with and creatively explored the way conversations about racism were changing in popular discourse outside the groups primarily impacted by them, just as OKC coincided with and creatively explored postmodern capitalist apathy and technological paranoia just as they were become significant bugbears to the world beyond tech/econ doomer thinktanks. Very easy to argue that both are classics because they gave voice to their time - if either of them altered anything, they were catalysts above all else
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Album Rating: 4.5
See this is the thing.
You use skrillex as a point of reference into popularising ‘something new’
This is just complete nonsense and discredits entire cultural movements that went before.
Anyone born after about 1982 has absolutely no frame of reference. It’s mental.
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