Album Rating: 2.5
“first tracks has undeniable TSY/Arbiter vibes, a couple other songs I hear it in the drumming“
First track guitars reminds me more of a-types than anything. Then the vocals come in and make me sad. Don’t hear any delicious Adam Morgan-esque drum licks at all, I was excited when you mentioned that and I went back and gave the album another try based on that alone and just didn’t hear it
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Album Rating: 4.0
does bob... hate music?
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Album Rating: 2.5
Sorry for music discussioning on this music discussion website fellas I’ll see myself out
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Album Rating: 4.0
yea the hell are you guys doing, botb is chill
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Album Rating: 4.0
no come back /:
i'll tell u why i don't think this is as good as other people do: each song on the demo had a distinct personality, wasn't as overly produced, and varied in sound
here, it's just too easy to lump it up as a deftones cover band and call it a day. a shame, honestly.
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Album Rating: 4.0
i could give this a 3 and wouldn't bat an eye tbh
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Does this rock and groove like fuck or is it that downbeat, limp, toneless shite?
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Album Rating: 4.0
mix of both tbh. if u heard the "softer" tracks on vein's last album, this is basically an entire album of that with fem vox
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Album Rating: 2.5
I’ll be interested to hear what these guys do next, I think there’s a lot of potential here. Just gotta do something with those abysmal cleans
@relinquished ty bb, I’m not here to hurt feelings, just genuinely enjoy dissecting music and talking about it
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Album Rating: 4.0
they sounded soo good on the demo too ://// feel like i'm hearing evanescencessnce here sometimes //////:
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Album Rating: 2.5
I said flyleaf initially and I thought user jayender was going to have a fucking stroke
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Album Rating: 4.0
yeah but say new turnover isn't that bad and u get punched in the teeth 
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Album Rating: 2.5
Turnover hasn’t put out anything memorable since perpetual motion tbh
Serious question for you anti-hype crew and duck stans alike:
Would anyone give a shit about this band if it wasn’t vein-adjacent? I’m gonna say hard no
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Album Rating: 4.0
same can be asked about turnover lol. if peripheral vision didn't exist would people still rip their music to shreds?
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Album Rating: 2.5
They’re from my area so they’ve been putting out pretty solid pop punk/emo/indie/whatever for years now. Well up until after perpetual motion
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Album Rating: 4.0
yall should peep comatose (mn). better than this 
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Album Rating: 2.5
laughing a bit too hard at "perpetual motion"
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Album Rating: 4.0
I’d care about this
it scratches an alt metal vibe I wanted from other bands but never got
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Album Rating: 2.5
Hahaha motion vision whatever man you know what I meant
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Album Rating: 4.0
It definitely helped to get my attention initially to check this band out, but this on its own is solid. Still definitely would want the members to focus on Vein though. I could see this being a one LP kind of band/project.
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