Album Rating: 5.0

I don't think you can discount the photo essay component. They're not just pretty pictures, the very abstraction of photography and recorded life in infinitesimal snapshots is essential to the music component and is what makes this a transcendent work. Especially the theme of nature in the images and lyrics and how that shaped his identity Read some theory maybe like Susan Sontag on photography.

Album Rating: 2.0

Azazzel you have less than 200 comments on this site. i'm guessing you're an alt account and it seems like you're trolling but it's impossible to know for sure

Album Rating: 5.0

I use sputnik for music discovery not for posting. Most of the thread quality these days is complete AIDS. They all turn into what should be chat room interpersonal hangouts with nothing to do with the music for dozens of pages.

Album Rating: 5.0

Idk what comes across as trolling by the way, I'm making legitimate cogent arguments about art. If anything you are the troll and have the track record to prove it.

Album Rating: 4.5

Timelessness and replayability are not the same thing. Something can be both timeless and not readily replayable or even super-accessible.

SATANTAGO is a masterpiece, but it's a very slow, seven-hour film. Not something you're going to find yourself watching very often, but that doesn't mean it can't be great or timeless.

Album Rating: 2.0

tec: yeah see, that's a film example. i struggle to find music examples tho. we (or at least i do) consume music differently than we do film in that regard. i can certainly concede that something in music is important/influential/whatever but not personally dig it too much. that's kind of how i feel about this. i get why people like it but for me it has little replay value.



azzazel: refer to sowing's response to you a page prior. you came in gushing and basically shitting on anyone who thinks otherwise about this. your 'cogent' arguments about art are pure subjectivity, you pretentious snob

Album Rating: 5.0

I wouldn't shit on anyone that approached this work in good faith and simply didn't resonate with them. I shit on this thread because the reasonings were completely disconnected from the purpose of the work. I stand by my premise that it's a mistake to treat this piece as a traditionally functioning album ala Tectactoe's example of Satantango.

I've said my piece, leaving the thread now.

Album Rating: 4.5

That's fair enough, and replayability is a factor well within someone's rights to critique their overall feelings toward any piece of art. I was more commenting on AITB's comment that insinuated timelessness and replayability were similar concepts; in my opinion, they're not.

If I had to draw a musical example, I'd say something like Soundtracks for the Blind or The Disintegration Loops. Definitely not stuff I listen to every day, or all that often to be honest. But that doesn't necessarily affect how I personally assess their perceived "greatness," though I understand why someone else would feel different about it. Moreover, whether or not you consider that to be a component of true greatness doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the album's "timelessness," which is more a measure of its longevity with respect to the changing world around it.

That's my take anyway.

I listen to a lot of my 4's and 4.5's way more than most of my 5's in all likelihood.

chiming to say that esteemed user GYROMANIA, who IS A fine member of the userbase, is not to be considered a TRANSPHOBE, per StalinSeason's rules.

Album Rating: 2.0

i think more so just by people with a brain who don't get mad triggered by someone having a divergent opinion and aren't wont to demonize them. idk tho, i'm getting too old to be talking to most of you lol.

Album Rating: 2.0

"If I had to draw a musical example, I'd say something like Soundtracks for the Blind or The Disintegration Loops."



these are good examples, however for the latter i think more so than analyzing it as a piece of art it's just great background noise. helps me get into a frame of mind to study or something

Album Rating: 4.5

Sint, you can think what you want but don't be a twat and clog up my review threads trying to bait people.

It's much better when it's clogged up by elitist lurkers who come in out of nowhere to tell us we're all wrong and to watch more film so we can understand Phil like he/she does.

Album Rating: 4.5

Someone needs to get that on the copypasta thread

Album Rating: 4.5

these are good examples, however for the latter i think more so than analyzing it as a piece of art it's just great background noise. helps me get into a frame of mind to study or something

Also agreed, they make absolutely exquisite background noise that you can kind of have a lofty, touch-and-go engagement with, if you please. Series III is my favorite of the four, I think.

"i'm getting too old to be talking to most of you lol."

Hark, Aren't won't you log off eternal mayhaps

"what replay value do your own memories hold"

Hey theres a black mirror episode for that

"i'll spam this site into the ground if I have to"

- old and wise voice of wisdom

Is this twangy shit?

Album Rating: 2.0

why did my 'lmao' get deleted? i thought lewis made a solid joke

Album Rating: 3.5

@tect Timelessness and replayability are not the same thing, agreed - a mistake on my part to insinuate that (although I think it is true that alot of timeless music has alot of replay value). And for sure, agreed that fantastic art isnt necessarily (and doesnt have to be) full of replay value, and I certainly wouldn't deny that what Phil has gone for here is a fantastic piece of art, very unique and very interesting (especially because of the visual component). I think my point was simply: a) this doesnt feel like it has much replay value b) that I personally tend to particularly like and gravitate towards music that has replay value, as I love those albums that you can spin over and over and over and rarely tire of and can therefore grow highly attached to c) that some of Phil's other work has immense replay value whilst also managing to be incredible pieces of art that convey just as much meaning as this whilst also being something I come back to routinely (the glow pt2, no flashlight, it was hot..., etc.) and d) in that sense, by comparison, I feel this is slightly lacking.



I suppose I'm contradicting myself a little as I adore A Crow, as both a piece of art and something I've personally grown very attached to, even though I have probably heard it 3 times, but eh.