Album Rating: 4.4

He's not a guest vocalist, he's the keyboardist in the band

I should probably check these guys

Album Rating: 4.5

The Haves Have Naught sounds like a fucking Joanna Newsom track, I'm loving it more and more with each listen. Surprised it hasn't been mentioned much as a favorite.

Album Rating: 4.5

At first, I actually thought Gavin's vocals were just Casey singing in a more nasally tone.

Album Rating: 4.4

Someone on kingdom-leaks mentioned he sounds like a lovechild of Casey and Chris Conley and I was like yeah pretty much

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't see how people can be giving this a 2.0 if they're really honest with themselves. I just don't get it. There is clearly so much merit to Casey's songwriting. Even if you don't find the music that fun (for some reason) there's no way you can't appreciate how sophisticated and deep the compositions are. This music isn't just good by accident... it's an intricate fucking tapestry of sound. Very, VERY few people on this planet could write music as sophisticated as this. It takes a genius with a gift.

Album Rating: 5.0

Lol at all the people giving this a 2 just to lower it's rating.

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, the fact that the rating distribution is bimodal with a peak at 2 is telling. Very unlikely that you will get a dearth of ratings in the 2.5-3.5 area and peaks at either side without a good number of those ratings being dishonest.

Album Rating: 4.5

The 2's are not dishonest at all, just because you interpret his songwriting as sophisticated and deep and genius and intricate doesn't mean other people don't interpret it as hokey and overbearing and gay as fuck melodramatic overlong bullshit prog wank if ya catch my drift and they don't need to be pissing in the middle ground (2.5-4) to harbour those criticisms. They're totally legitimate. If anything i'm surprised the album isn't more divisive in the sput community than it already is.

Album Rating: 5.0

People are allowed to rate whatever they want and I'm allowed to be suspicious those ratings. This cannot be proven, but I'd be willing to bet that if the people rating 2 had happened to be the first people rating... most would have given something higher than a 2. I think a lot of the 2s are a reaction to the many 5s. I didn't say it isn't legitimate or justified to give a 2, I just don't believe that all of them are legitimate or justified.

I think a lot of the 2s are a reaction to the many 5s. I didn't say it isn't legitimate or justified to give a 2, I just don't believe that all of them are legitimate or justified. [2]

I could totally see someone thinking this was a 2, but the 2s here do seem to be for the sake of protest at the average being higher than it probably deserves and not being in line with their views

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah as is the case with 2's on critically acclaimed albums it's very likely that some subset of them are a cynical response to the hype based off of first impressions I get your point, but I don't think they're dishonest per se. This album is very easy to hate

Album Rating: 5.0

Maybe a lot of it is the difference in peoples' ratings philosophies. I don't listen to hip hop and have never liked hip hop, therefore I will not rate a hip hop album. It would be disingenuous of me to give Kendrick Lamar a 2 just because I don't enjoy hip hop. So people who are rating this a 2 because they "can see why it's great but this just isn't my thing"... maybe they should choose not to rate at all in that situation.

but minty, you dont rate anything haha?

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't mind people's preferential for dispensing 2's to albums they don't resonate with because their tastes are just as legitimate as far as the statistics is concerned and it actually helps to interpret how an album is received by the user population.

i agree that people shouldn't just give out low ratings in protest or frustration at the average, but i think that, even if its a genre or band that isn't to your taste, you should still be entitled to express your opinion in your rating so long as the reasoning behind the rating is solid (i.e. you dont like the music for various reasons, not because you just want to tank the average)

Album Rating: 5.0

@Piglet in that case I should rate Beethoven 2 then.



@AsleepInTheBack I'm weird with my ratings. I have had lots of things rated before... then I start to get annoyed with my own ratings and decide to just cull them and start from scratch. I have a hard time being confident in my ratings sometimes. If general users were allowed to use 0.1 increments then I'd be much happier with rating things.

=0 WHAT AN ALBUM TITLE

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't want it to seem like I think anyone is wrong or immoral for rating albums in genres they don't like... I just don't like to do that myself. I just think I'm not qualified to judge the competency of a hip hop album and will leave that to other people. I wouldn't be able to give a good representation of how well-made the album is compared to its peers, and the people reading my ratings for a hip hop album are going to be those who ARE into hip hop, so my 2 wouldn't be helpful for them.

"I start to get annoyed with my own ratings and decide to just cull them and start from scratch. I have a hard time being confident in my ratings sometimes. If general users were allowed to use 0.1 increments then I'd be much happier with rating things."

yeah man i can relate to that, 0.1 increments would be lovely. I always rate them with 0.1 increments and write that down elsewhere, and then my rating on sput is rounded up or down from the true rating i'd give it. as to confidence with your ratings, just go fully with your gut and forget what the consensus is, so long as you can back that up with reasoning there's no reason to lack confidence with them