Originality in hip hop comes from the creativity of scratching a record player to make music and
singing over this as if it was an instrument. Saying it is unoriginal because you are sampling
someone elses music is as illogical as saying you are unoriginal because you used a guitar that
someone else invented or built.
Saying that hip hop has very little true originality is just ignorant. Just because biting has
become insanely common today does not mean it was up until '97. Anyone who imitated the most
successful rapper of the day in those times would be mocked, ridiculed and literally thrown off
stage. I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about Halfman and your comment betrays a
superficial knowledge of hip hop. hip hop is a very unique and original genre (at least it once
was)and biters are to be despised even if they dominate the genre today.
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@lambs - do you agree 100% with this review? just curious
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhJeHK5IR6zTEh7k3G
If you dont think biting is cancer then you'll prbly like this song.
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it's hard to say I 100% agree because I haven't bothered to listen to much Logic to know if the
author's points about him being a previously repetitive one-trick-pony are true or not.
Assuming that is true, and assuming most of the rest of the tracks on this album bite similarly to the
track featured on the review, yeah I basically completely agree with the review's thesis that biting
is awful regardless of it's enjoyable.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Guy has a nice flow, but I doubt I'll care enough to get past the 2nd track off this
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i havent listened to him because my friends who like mac miller listen to him
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Album Rating: 2.5
Everyone here listens to country so I don't have that problem
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Album Rating: 2.5
Also lol at people who listen to Mac Miller in 2014
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Those are the same type of people who think Eminem is the best rapper ever.
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yeah people with opinions are the worst
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no, ppl with justin beiber gifs are the absolute rock bottom worst.
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Album Rating: 2.5
"Those are the same type of people who think Eminem is the best rapper ever."
they're nowhere near as bad as those who think Em's the "only good rapper who ever existed"
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lol yea thats just ignant as hell.
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Album Rating: 3.0
I don't think that's a very good analogy seeing as there is a fundamental difference between mixing already made music and playing pre-made guitars, but okay, Lamb. I do concede to what you're saying the most part. But I just find the whole "biting" sentiment in hip hop culture silly, same as "no snitching". Influence is everywhere, most rappers have been strongly influenced by others preceding them. I just feel as if one could strongly argue pretty much any rapper who has ever existed "bit" someone else's style, even if the "biting" is more subtle and more subversive.
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Eminem is one of the best ever.
DJs using other's records to scratch isn't biting. MCs being influenced by previous artists isn't
biting either. Biting is intentionally stealing the style of someone to take advantage of people who
don't know otherwise. Thats pretty hard to do as a DJ since you are obviously sampling someone else.
A good example of a biting MC, I think, is Kendrick Lamar. He has bitten many artists from the LA
underground that the international audiences have never even heard of. It would be one thing if he
ever gave them any credit or tributes, but he doesn't. That's biting. Doing what The Game does,
mixing styles but acknowledging what hes doing is a sort of tribute, isn't biting. The distinction
is about giving credit to your influences, and not taking 100% of their style.
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"they're nowhere near as bad as those who think Em's the "only good rapper who ever existed""
'yea man rap sucks eminem hopsin and macklemore are the only good rappers'
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^ Totally agree with that sentiment. We as consumers will never know where Kendrick got his style from. Cuz its so brand new and we never heard of it before. Chances are he heard a nigga on the lo lo in LA spittin that fire in a basement venue where they charge 5 dollars at the door and took it and ran with it. Biting is taking one of your contemporaries styles and just flat out using it without even putting a twist or a flare to it to call it your own.
Also I still find it an anomaly that white rappers are generally the most paid and awarded in rap music.
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Album Rating: 3.0
Yes, but where do you draw the line between biting and influence? In early hip hop, DJs sometimes wouldn't even formally credit the artists they sampled and profited off of other's music. Outright using someone else's instrumental work in sampling is okay to you, but using someone else's style in MCing isn't? And can you give me examples of rappers Kendrick Lamar bit from?
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Ellay Khule/ Rifleman
King Crooked
Eligh
I just told you, the line is giving credit to your influences and not stealing 100% of their style.
No DJ is stealing 100% of the style of any artist by sampling a 2-second clip of their music.
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Album Rating: 3.0
Yeah, you're right. But I don't think hip hop should have to be a term paper. Giving credit where it is due is good, but i don't see it as 100 percent necessary. Especially since strong influences themselves were more than likely influenced by predecessors who came before them. Kind of defeats the purpose to give one man credit when he himself has others to thank for his own style no? It's a 2-second clip but quite often those clips form the basis of or turn into entire songs. The brevity of the sample doesn't trivialize the fact the music came from someone else.
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