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The3015thVermicide
January 16th 2014


71 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Completely the opposite. I will never listen to a Burzum record because of the murder. To me that puts him on a permanent unwritten blacklist.



Of course there are expections. Varg's actions, beliefs and philosophy are one of the reasons why I can't tolerate Burzum ; but the main ones are that I dislike 90's norewgian black metal and that I find Burzum really boring, Varg's music bores me to death

anarchistfish
January 16th 2014


30539 Comments


Well, I am a commie so maybe that is the reason I am the only one who cares.

I care insofar as pro-capitalists then use it to try to undermine socialist argument. Which is fallacious of course but very common. In general there are much more important things to focus on and then the rest will eventually follow. Often this happens without the artist's consent anyway.

We talking about Kanye here? Never heard him put forward any socialist ideas. If anything the whole message his music has put forward, on his last two albums anyway, is adopting the capitalist american dream and subverting the white supremacy behind it. That's what a lot of hip hop's about in the first place, even the mainstream kind that gets dismissed as superficial and commercialised. It's not about fighting capitalism, but transforming it and taking control of it.

Rage Against The Machine in a nutshell.


When has a RATM song ever been in an advert? They've had tracks on games and the radio I guess, but that isn't intrinsically hypocritical; if anything it's a way of using capitalism to spread a socialist message. If you claim that's supporting capitalism you could argue almost anything is since it's so tied into the fabric of society, but this kind of abstinence will ultimately do far more harm before it does any good.

Tom Morello had something to say on this

"When you live in a capitalistic society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart."

Dunpeal
January 16th 2014


4455 Comments


"When has a RATM song ever been in an advert? They've had tracks on games and the radio I guess, but that isn't intrinsically hypocritical; if anything it's a way of using capitalism to spread a socialist message. If you claim that's supporting capitalism you could argue almost anything is since it's so tied into the fabric of society, but this kind of abstinence will ultimately do far more harm before it does any good."


yeah man that seemed a bit fishy to me (no pun intended)

gudledoodle
January 16th 2014


19 Comments


boring album

The3015thVermicide
January 16th 2014


71 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Usually with RATM I just enjoy the music and the tunes. Don't care about the message as long as the music sounds good and the track has well constructed lyrics. With a lot of socialist stuff ( see anti flag or immortal technique) the generic commie lyrics with nothing new or interesting annoys me as hell

anarchistfish
January 16th 2014


30539 Comments


fucking pagebreak right after my wall of text fml

Insurrection
January 16th 2014


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

spencer's track rules

anarchistfish
January 16th 2014


30539 Comments


With a lot of socialist stuff ( see anti flag or immortal technique) the generic commie lyrics with nothing new or interesting annoys me as hell

yeah cos socialist ideals are just another lyrical fad never mind the actual points they bring up!!

LilLioness
January 16th 2014


3802 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Agreed, ins. Misha's track is way too long.



Fish, you bring up good points. Obv, society operates the way it does and we have to make our way in it no matter what our positions are. This kind of thing doesn't bother me. It is just Kanye made such a big show out of rejecting all prior channels and making his site the video and talking all this good shit about his message and who he is. He kinda gained some of my respect by doing that. But then he completely undercut it.



The thing that really drives my ire is that he COULD stand to lose money on Yeezus. He is rich enough that he doesn't need the revenue from letting these corporations use his material. He is millions of miles away from even where Rage were.

TooManyFriends
January 16th 2014


3520 Comments


he's right tho

Snake.
January 16th 2014


25598 Comments


Thom Yorke should slap Spencer like he slapped Jack Black.

SitarHero
January 16th 2014


14826 Comments


Thom Yorke slaps people? That really says it all, doesn't it?

Snake.
January 16th 2014


25598 Comments


No, but......

Diglett
January 16th 2014


1607 Comments


gosh i sure like periphery

Asdfp277
January 16th 2014


25671 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

if i hated everything else they've ever done, would i hate this too much??

Insurrection
January 16th 2014


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"Agreed, ins. Misha's track is way too long."



oh god yes. it couldve been a cool little interlude but he milked it for all its worth

LilLioness
January 16th 2014


3802 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I also really liked "The Summer Jam". The last half is pretty boss.

OwMySnauze
January 16th 2014


2670 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Saw this was streaming on YouTube I'll probably wait till it comes out to check out. Hoping Juggernaut will be will focused.

anarchistfish
January 16th 2014


30539 Comments


I was speaking in generalities, I just think it's a little hypocritical that a group of millionaires signed to a huge label would preach so passionately about the repercussions of capitalism and big business. You can argue they used their influence to spread a message, but they also apparently had no problem living like kings thanks to their commercial success.

Do they? I can't find anything about how or where they live apart from Tom Morello and I'm not sure how reliable it is. Where are you getting this from?

Drummerboy123
January 16th 2014


3135 Comments


Overture is cool, dream theater influence is apparent

The Summer Jam has some gnarly riffs and sponce's last note is sweet but some parts feel awkwardly placed to make the song flow

Feed the Ground is solid all the way through but some vocal lines are a bit iffy

Zero is good for around a min or two and then gets repetitive and grows stale. Also that snare drum has wayyyyy too much reverb on it. And I don't see why Sponce didn't put vocals over the top of it either, the song would have benefited greatly imo.

The Parade of Ashes has a catchy as fuck chrous and flows well. The NIN influence comes through hard, One of my faves here though the ending feels a bit underwhelming, feels like it was cut short.

Extraneous is obvious meshuggah worship. Lovin' the time sig changes throughout and dat breakdown at 2:14 is sweet, but since i'm not a massive meshuggah fan I don't really dig too much.

Pale Aura is my straight up fave. Some people are hatin on Spencer's take on vocals but I love it. The last minute and a half is right up there with periphery's best material imo. Definitely sounds like haunted shores mix with a bit of black metal.



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