Album Rating: 5.0
Superstition, I can agree with. However, outside of cases like same-sex marriage or abortion, (most) religion serves as a construct to teach ethical concepts.
This is a common held belief and ive heard it over and over again when discussing this issue with people in real life. IT always comes up.
"But if everyone was an atheist soybean, how would we know whats right and wrong?"
As if the belief in god stops atrocities from being committed? How many murderers are in jail right now and believe jesus is lord? What about suicide bombers in the middle east?
Besides the horrors committed in the name of religion it has been proven that you do not need a religious code or upbringing to have moral values. Psychological tests have shown that all humans are born with an innate sense of right and wrong. When confronted with tests on moral situations, those who are devout religious and those who never believed in a creator exhibit the same results.
There have been a ton of studies on this really and ill let you dig them up on your own if you are so interested, but there really is alot of literature out there concerning this.
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Album Rating: 5.0
And to dispute the claim that there no influence from religion in founding of the US is pretty hilarious
I dont quite understand the question if there is one actually here. If you mean to say that its hilarious I claim there is no influence of religion in founding the US then I would say I misspoke.
Of course there was some influence of religion when america was founded. It cant be denied. It was the victorian era ffs, science barely existed and religion was still very ingrained in society. However the idea that the US was founded on christianity is false. but there were some influences, sure, no question. But at the end of the day, what does that really mean? The founding fathers also believe slavery was just, their views werent perfect.
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As if the belief in god stops atrocities from being committed?
I didn't say belief in god instills our sense of right and wrong, I said that religious teachings help do so.
Besides the horrors committed in the name of religion
what about the ones committed in the name of the law/justice
those who are devout religious and those who never believed in a creator exhibit the same results.
this still does not address my point. Exposure to religion is enough. I, for one, am not religious, but I will be the first to attest that church is often a good environment for one to learn right and wong.
it has been proven that you do not need a religious code or upbringing to have moral values.
being born/raised in America is enough, because like I stated above:
I wouldn't say the US was founded on the "idea" of Christianity, but most laws today are- if not directly compliant with Christian teachings- derived from the ethical lessons taught in that religion (and others but whatever).
What you're arguing is that one does not need to be religious or raised in a religious manner to have a sense of right and wrong, and I agree- but that does not address my point.
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Also would it fucking hurt to actually use [quote][/quote] tags instead of bolding? that shit is confusing/annoying
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However the idea that the US was founded on christianity is false. but there were some influences, sure, no question.
just saw this
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Thank you gentlemen for covering everything I was thinking here! ;) Yeah I didn't mean the country was founded 100% because of Christianity, just that it was part of the process.
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"Higgs" is one of the greatest album openers ever written.
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Album Rating: 5.0
this still does not address my point. Exposure to religion is enough. I, for one, am not religious, but I will be the first to attest that church is often a good environment for one to learn right and wong
I simply disagree here. I do not think church is often a good environment for one to learn right and wrong. For example most religions teach homosexuality to be wrong, or suicide to be a mortal sin. So this is just where out opinions differ I suppose.
Either way thank you for actually proving you can have an intelligent and frank discussion on the subject rather than being like the other 3 posters who simply called me an idiot or whatever and didn't add anything to the conversation.
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Album Rating: 5.0
"Higgs" is one of the greatest album openers ever written.
I will agree with this
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ither way thank you for actually proving you can have an intelligent and frank discussion on the subject rather than being like the other 3 posters who simply called me an idiot or whatever and didn't add anything to the conversation.
such an idiot
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Also did you go to church often growing up, soybean? All churches don't teach that homosexuality is wrong- many of them say do whatever and praise god blah blah thumbs up.
And the thing about suicide being a sin- why does that matter? Unless you are using the word 'sin' differently than most, sinning only matters A. within that religion and/or B. outside the law. I may have stated that sloppily, but I mean suicide isn't generally a good thing so I see nothing wrong with preaching against it, even if their reason is because it's against the religion (i.e. being a sin)
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"I simply disagree here. I do not think church is often a good environment for one to learn right and wrong. For example most religions teach homosexuality to be wrong, or suicide to be a mortal sin. So this is just where out opinions differ I suppose."
When I went to church I honestly thought that it was a great environment. I felt the same way that you did beforehand, but in all honesty there are some great churches out there that preach messages of love and respect, and instill great values in their sermons. I had no idea; quite a lot of churches have broken away from the Methodist/Baptist, conservative way, and I think it'll continue to happen as long as religion exists.
And yes, Higgs is an incredible opener :]
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Album Rating: 5.0
I grew up catholic
Bottom line: I dont believe learning ethics from any formal organization is a good idea as it can be manipulated easily by those in power.
Live by the golden rule, do unto others what you would have done to you. I think thats the only moral code anyone really needs.
Either way, my point wasnt to debate religion, thats another topic entirely. My point was pseudo science like astrology, psychic powers, and ghosts are fucking stupid and I really shouldnt have to explain why.
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still need to listen to this i dl'd it the other day
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Listening to this band makes me think of the big bang theory theme song which bugs me because I hate that song
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i had a dream these guys came out with a new album
I think
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Album Rating: 5.0
They have new songs on youtube ^^
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Oh yes Ive actually heard them. They sounded pretty nifty but it's always pretty hard to tell the quality of a song from a live performance, at least for me anyways. I doubt that these guys will let me down anytime soon though, honestly
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Album Rating: 5.0
It's funny, I absolutely love this album and gave it the same score as the reviewer, but I disagree with a lot of what he said. For me Lord Blakeney's Arm and Vermithrax Pejorative are the least memorable. I love the catchy melodies found in the songs you called forgettable, like Star Wormwood. Also, The Barley is fucking awesome, the percussion in that song is perfect.
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Album Rating: 3.5
gamma ray BUUUUAURRRSTT
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