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klap
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


12410 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

then describe that, especially when it results in a whole point of difference as strikey's evidently would

Waior
October 26th 2009


11778 Comments


Argument is ridiculous.

cirq
October 26th 2009


9366 Comments


ah man, youre back

klap
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


12410 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

which one :/

Waior
October 26th 2009


11778 Comments


The first argument. The fact that this is "average pop" and doesn't do anything to be innovative disallows it to be anything worthwhile? Really? But the kerfuffle about rating things personally and objectively makes a lot of sense to me - but it shouldn't make more than a +.5 difference.

klap
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


12410 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

word. i just think emotion should be a part of the review too if it means that much to you

robertsona
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

heres a hint





rate the album on how much you enjoy it





!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





edit: exception is if the album is SOOOO GENERIC AND UNORIGINAL and/or stupid that you just have to give a .5 less or something idk

ScorpionStan
October 26th 2009


1912 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Caleb: i never said this wasn't worthwhile...i suppose if people have never listened to 60's and 70's pop music, this will sound new and interesting.



it's "average-ness" and "un-innovativeness" don't disallow it from being something worthwhile, they disallow it from being a superb or classic record. that's the point i was making.

robertsona
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

idk





i really think that despite being uninnovative a record can still be superb or classic based purely on enjoyment





i really think that with the amount of music thats come out even the most 'innovative' seeming records have been 'done before'

DiceMan
October 26th 2009


7066 Comments


besides, if you had actually read all my posts you would have seen that i NEVER SAID that she sucks at making music. her music is good for what it is, but IT is just standard pop. It's all been heard before. the chord progressions and melodies are pleasant, but they are also extremely simple and were overplayed 4 decades ago. the lyrics are passionate, but also quite juvenile.

basically, it's an average pop record. i can understand why people like it, but 4.5's and 5's? that's just outlandish

It doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be enjoyable. Theoretically speaking there are an unlimited combination of notes and rhythms, despite the fact that after a certain point it is impossible to create any of these. As you said, she is really good at the genres she dabbles in (pop and somewhat country). You seem to ignore the fact that most songwriters actually write about their relationships and experiences that they've had in life... It would sound ridiculous if she started spouting out lyrics from The Heroin Diaries.

ScorpionStan
October 26th 2009


1912 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

robertsona:



true...it's just that literally everything on this album has been done before. song structure, chord progressions, melodies, the country tinge to the songs, the lyrics, basically every element on the record. there's not really anything unique about it at all.



so i guess if you really enjoy average pop that much, this could be a superb or classic album. i just don't see how you could possibly enjoy this that much. but whatever, i won't kill you if you do haha.





musicaddiction:



no it doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be enjoyable. but this is simply average pop music. it's not just that it's all been done before, it's just plain ordinary. there's no interesting chord progressions, no exciting key changes, no remarkable lead guitar work, no interesting bass lines, no poetic lyricism or captivating lyrical themes, no intricate piano or keyboard work, no departure from the same general sound throughout the record, no edge.



to wrap it up in a cliche, it's all filler and no killer. i just don't see what's so interesting about this. i guess some people really connect with the lyrics emotionally, but as far as the musical quality goes, the only words i can think of are bland, ordinary, simplistic, average...you get the point.

robertsona
Emeritus
October 26th 2009


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"true...it's just that literally everything on this album has been done before. song structure, chord progressions, melodies, the country tinge to the songs, the lyrics, basically every element on the record. there's not really anything unique about it at all."





really? could you show me some other songs that have the same chord progressions melodies and structures? same lyrics, even? thats weird, could you link me or somethin

illmitch
October 26th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

if your heart doesn't flutter when you hear taylor swift sing "we were both young when i first saw you" it probably doesn't exist

InTheShallows
October 26th 2009


269 Comments


^haha, hopeless romantic.

Wow interesting thread, good read. I think i agree with ScorpionStan most though, this really is just plain 'ol pop music boys. Rather dull, in fact.

@musicaddiction: sure, nobody wants her spewing the Heroin Diaries. And yes, most writers obviously do write about relationships and life experiences. Here's a little nugget for you though: it's not what you write about, it's how you write about it. You could have fantastic lyrics and terrible lyrics written about the exact same subject or experience. The X factor? A little thing called poeticism. It really adds to the artistic quality of the lyrics when you've got poeticism. And Taylor ain't got it.

illmitch
October 26th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

^haha hopeless person WITHOUT A FUCKING HEART



yeah i went there

Waior
October 26th 2009


11778 Comments


Stop embarrassing yourself. If somebody enjoys this enough to be a 4.5, then so be it. You can't tell people what they enjoy and don't enjoy, it's opinion.

Ratings are personal.

Waior
October 26th 2009


11778 Comments


accidental double post ugh

InTheShallows
October 26th 2009


269 Comments


mmm...i really touched a nerve there mitch, didn't i?

Maybe my heart doesn't flutter because it's a girl that's singing those words. I ain't no homo.

jagride
October 26th 2009


2975 Comments


This is no better than Celine Dion. Jesus christ, you people

illmitch
October 26th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah you got me so angry that i typed something in caps lock



waior knows what time it is tbh



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