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Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


Wow, the band's subreddit is disgusting. So much rape apologia. If you read the threads where the accusations came out, it's filled with people demanding proof and saying they won't take sides and just want to listen to the music. Even in the Tillian confession thread there are still people saying "We all make mistakes

keaton_86
June 3rd 2022


1361 Comments


Heaven forbid people want proof for something that will instantly ruin someones career and reputation.

hobblepot
June 3rd 2022


3000 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Bro he admitted it lol, we don’t really need proof if the guy is admitting what he’s been accused of

GreyShadow
June 3rd 2022


8091 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i guess there's the proof now lmao



but umm yeah, proof begging is some bullshit. would much rather believe a potential victim than support a potential rapist.

JayEnder
June 3rd 2022


22713 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Some people in the subreddit saying the rest of the band aren't much better"



I dunno. Matt, Jon, and Tim (RIP) seem like really nice dudes. Will is chill but seems like he doesn't give a shit about anything lol. Obviously I don't know them personally and could be totally wrong but judging by the interviews I've seen they seem like legit people. Agreed with tellah on that one.

keaton_86
June 3rd 2022


1361 Comments


Bro he admitted it lol, we don’t really need proof if the guy is admitting what he’s been accused of


My bad, I didn't see that

TheSpirit
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

"Heaven forbid people want proof for something that will instantly ruin someones career and reputation."



if proof is easy to obtain, than the accused can provide it

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


I don't really wanna make blind accusations here, but I do think it's worth questioning the character of the rest of the band. In my experience, you usually know when one of your friends -much less someone you spend every day on the road with- is creepy towards women. To what extent that is can definitely be a mystery and there's definitely a fine line between being a kind of pathetic dude who is lacking some social skills and being a full blown rapist, but it's still worth asking the question. Doubly so since this isn't the first time there's been a predator in the band. I really do feel for the rest of them though. They have gone through a lot the last few months and this will forever mar the final release involving Tim.

JayEnder
June 3rd 2022


22713 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Musicians try to refrain from being predators challenge (impossible)

Slex
June 3rd 2022


17869 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Agree on all fronts there odal

Trebor.
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Musicians try to be normal human beings (gone sexual)

vult
June 3rd 2022


3425 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

It’s hard for me to blame the other members of the band for anything without knowing how their relationships are with each other. Sure they are friends/band mates and spend a lot of time together, but it is impossible for others to truly know what another person does in private. Tilian seems to be primarily targeting women through dating apps/texts and then meeting them in private. So unless the other band members are reading his texts or know specifics on Tilian’s interactions with women, we can’t assume they know everything.



Also, I’ve made a point never to actively go to the DGD subreddit, it’s a cesspool of normies and blind faith fans.

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
June 3rd 2022


16952 Comments


i’m furious

Odal
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


3129 Comments


For sure, I don't assume they know everything and I definitely feel for the position they've been put in as the result of his actions.

That being said, in my own life I have known a few predators that I had definitely known to be...weird about their relations to women. Some seemed more nefarious than others, and there was one that was a particular gut punch who I thought was just more of a socially awkward dude than an actual threat. It taught me a lot of perspective and to always trust the gut and call out any weirdness like that with anyone I want to associate with. I'm willing to bet many others in this forum have had experiences like this.

Again, not saying that the others are guilty of anything but it's just worth bringing up given that this isn't the first time they've had someone in the band with bad character.

hobblepot
June 3rd 2022


3000 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Well the rumours about the rest of the band are currently baseless heresay right now, but idk, I have trouble trusting any male figure at all anymore now. This band used to be my all time favourite, this would have destroyed me 6 years ago but now? I kind of expect to hear this stuff about people I looked up to. And that’s sad, especially being a victim myself

CygnusX1
June 3rd 2022


809 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

DGD singer is cursed. Fuck Tilian, an that's coming from a Tilian fan as of 2? days ago. Real POS person even if he gets help. New album was already going to be weird/sad to hear b/c of Tim, now this. I would say Andrew should just be singer moving forward but idk, depends on what the rest of the band is gonna do.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Looks like Tilly is out for the time being. It's unclear if it is permanent or just temporary.

GreyShadow
June 3rd 2022


8091 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

well they put out a statement, tilian is dropped but everything else is continuing as normal

GreyShadow
June 3rd 2022


8091 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah this all goes to waste if i hear "tilian got professional help, so he can be our singer again !"



that's absolute bs. people who commit SA shouldn't have a platform. period.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
June 3rd 2022


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

absolutely agree



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