Cult of Luna A Dawn to Fear
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PistolPete
May 21st 2020


5329 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Was jamming a bit of this yesterday. It really is one of their tightest releases, not really a bad song.

Beardog
May 21st 2020


6766 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah Dark, I honestly don't care that much about Flac and CD quality, it's just really cool that owning a physical version also guarantees better music quality than streaming. I think proper mixing and mastering is 1000000000000x more important than releasing 24-bit versions, but proper mixing and mastering is WAY more expensive too, so yeah.

JS19
May 21st 2020


7777 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the vinyl I have of this sounds weird as fuck though, I have to massively turn the bass down for it to sound acceptable at all. Not the case with the DL version

Demon of the Fall
May 21st 2020


39854 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The CD sounds awesome, then again the downloaded version I listened to before it arrived was perfectly satisfying anyway... I’m no audiophile however, so all this technical stuff is beyond me.

DarkNoctus
May 21st 2020


12841 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

@js19: really? i have the vinyl version and it sounds fine. i'll pay more attention to that next time i spin it tho.



"but proper mixing and mastering is WAY more expensive too, so yeah."



doesn't cost shit to simply turn the volume of the mix down so it can breathe, i mean, this is obviously well mixed and mastered - it's a great sounding record. it's just sound *that bit* better with more room in the mix to breathe.

Relinquished
May 21st 2020


50172 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'll push the musicians and monitors further from each other next time I see them live to have the music breathe more

Demon of the Fall
May 21st 2020


39854 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Stick ‘em in a different room, that oughta do it.

Beardog
May 21st 2020


6766 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Makes sense Dark, but you have no idea how hard it is to get the mesh between dynamics and volume right. Probably loses a lot of energy if you just put the limiter a little higher

Itwasthatwas
May 21st 2020


3182 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

re: the past 3 pages, Noctus and Elio are right

Pikazilla
May 21st 2020


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

this focus on 24bit 96khz for 'quality' music is honestly bollocks when really the biggest contributing factor is the mixing and mastering



Most 24-bit releases aren't even 96khz so I've no idea why you keep mentioning that. They are 44.1khz, just like what you get at 16-bit.

DDDeftoneDDD
May 21st 2020


23612 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

[stop]







































[please]

Relinquished
May 21st 2020


50172 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

can't stop it

DarkNoctus
May 21st 2020


12841 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

"Most 24-bit releases aren't even 96khz so I've no idea why you keep mentioning that. They are 44.1khz, just like what you get at 16-bit."



because this is the push of the audiophile industry right now - and many streaming/online music purchasing websites (qobuz etc.). also i get a lot that are 48khz - recent examples being the last esoteric record, but there are definitely more.



"Makes sense Dark, but you have no idea how hard it is to get the mesh between dynamics and volume right. Probably loses a lot of energy if you just put the limiter a little higher"



i record, perform, mix and master music. turning the volume of the mix down does not in any way alter the energy of the music. 80's metal classics have immense amounts of energy and their ultra-compressed and limited 'remasters' don't magically have more energy - in fact, they have less.

Pikazilla
May 21st 2020


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, fuck compression. I hate it when music sounds brickwalled to shit.

ElioG
May 21st 2020


805 Comments


Fucking compressed remasters... I remember back in the days, almost everyone wanted classic '80s albums to be remastered to purchase. Now, many people are searching the original versions. And we have Dave Mustaine who not only brickwalled the whole back catalogue of Megadeth but remixed it as well, putting some fresh recorded material... Man, if someone has only heard Rust In Peace 2004 remixed-remastered version he has never actually listened to the album.

DarkNoctus
May 21st 2020


12841 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

yeah for real. i'm not in any way saying this is a brickwalled mess - it's a great sounding record through and through. just saying if it had a little more room to breathe it'd sound better, and the same could be said for almost all modern metal releases.

Demon of the Fall
May 21st 2020


39854 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This literally could not sound any better, so either I have awful taste, or (fortunately) I’m not infected with such sensitive ears. Honestly it sounds like a complete minefield.

ElioG
May 21st 2020


805 Comments


I'm relatively new to CoL tbh, I am in Somewhere... spinning mood these days and I have to say it's fucking great. They are masters in building tension and make you float at the same time.

Beardog
May 21st 2020


6766 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@Dark I feel like something gets lost when I remove the limiter, but that might be just a taste-thing

DarkNoctus
May 21st 2020


12841 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

don't get me wrong, a limiter is a powerful tool and a very useful one.



but when the master looks like this (24bit flac btw):



https://imgur.com/hd1Cvmw



it's difficult to argue it could have done with a bit more room to breathe.



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