"What artists is listening to their album in small intermittent chunks ideal for"

Carissa's Wierd? or Bluetile Lounge? a lot of slowcore is really nice for a few songs before it gets boring / too depressing

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I don’t think that one’s personal limits of exhaustion with genre/mood/atmosphere can be generalized to being the ideal way to experience an album, it has to either have been created with that intent or created with such little intent that breaking it up makes no difference to the artistic vision

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‘But I think any album that has been made with the intent of being a contained experience (most albums ever) the ideal way to listen is from front to back obviously’ (2)

Yeah I’m with Pots 100% on this. And I’ve rarely had a problem getting through an Opeth album, but then maybe I just like them. Occasionally I might want to check something else due to mood, yet the idea they could be a band ideal for ‘individual cuts’ is odd to me. Fair enough if you’re making a playlist / mixtape or whatever for specific purposes, that’s different

Ridiculous to expect me to read what other people have written

But on your point idk. Shaking the Habitual? Before and after Old dreams lol

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talk about kicking the hornet’s nest with that shout, lol

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I’ll await for Potsy’s reply but let’s just save time here and say that I already agree with him

Haha yeah it's a pisstake, I'll save us some time

I was listening to it yesterday and skimmed some of the thread so know his thoughts

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"has to either have been created with that intent or created with such little intent that breaking it up makes no difference to the artistic vision"

what about earnest artists who are so inept at structuring albums that it doesn't matter either way? Mellon Collie and the White Album immediately come to mind - both are make-ur-own-playlist albums but I doubt their creators would ever describe them that way

HOW DARE

“what about earnest artists who are so inept at structuring albums that it doesn't matter either way? Mellon Collie and the White Album immediately come to mind - both are make-ur-own-playlist albums but I doubt their creators would ever describe them that way”

Well I don’t know why you would listen to artists like that to begin with

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gonna tentatively add the Fragile to that list and then sit back and agree

I’m not going to explain the difference between personal limitations and artist intent ad infinitum.

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okay but personal limitations being non-definitive of the work isn't rly a sufficient basis to consider artist intent as the key to the mythical definitive listening experience, especially now that physical media is no longer the norm

Singles exist for that exact purpose

9/10 times someone releases an album they intend for it to be listened to as a contained experience

I feel like you must realize how stupid this debate is and just be on a contrarian tip

Extrapolate this argument to different mediums. How do you think an artist would feel if you were like “actually the ideal way for me to view this piece is to cut it into quarters and hang them independently for viewing at different times because I can’t handle the vibe of the whole of it at once”

Apply to film etc

I know personally if I showed one of my albums to someone and they said “yeah the ideal way to listen to this is like in two song chunks” I would be deeply offended

I’m not arguing that there aren’t exceptions but I am arguing that more often than not that is the case and the point of making an album

It’s the mona Lisa’s left tit kind of day but the rest can fuck off

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this is definitely a dumb argument, don't see why whatever the artist intended should be any more significant than how the listener actually consumes it. i'd be a bit irked at first if someone made the same remark about one of my albums, but on the other hand, fuck it - if they found a way to fw it that worked for them, good shit.

the more interesting discussion here would be how many different styles of consumption certain albums lend themselves to - think the idea of the tracklist as its Final Form is a pretty brittle one upheld by an (arguable) minority of records where every track plays an essential role and depends on its placement, and (probably most significantly) by the collective experience of the audience who have the same tracklist as a common reference point

the film/painting comparison doesn't hold because film narratives generally demand sequential placement whereas album developments are (usually) considerably more abstract, and paintings are autonomous compositions align closer to songs than to albums (which in that analogy would be exhibitions - and, say, if someone wanted to jet round the uffizi, get their 2 mins of the Birth of Venus and go straight home without seeing Spring even though it's in the same room, i don't see why their preferences would be held as a mark against botticelli's genius)

“ don't see why whatever the artist intended should be any more significant than how the listener actually consumes it.”

Whether it is more significant on a subjective basis isn’t the argument, it’s what the ideal listening experience of an album is (which is as intended quite obviously)

I’m not reading the rest of the goal post shifting