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tempest--
March 26th 2014


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"it seems like this is more about enjoying the concept rather than the music itself"

not at all, but really, it doesn't matter in the slightest if you don't get it... some people just don't
nothing to spout off 5 pages of shitposting about, like those propose or betray fags a few pages back

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

It is interesting also that people are more open to discussion in this thread but I get hammered on if I ever talk about death metal short of praise. People seem pretty defensive of death metal (classic, not the newer or melodic stuff).

InbredJed
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 3.5

Consider your audience

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

"I don't want to pretend like I am connecting with how it is mechanical and shit to enjoy it somehow.

"



Of course not man, but you do realise that's not the reason why we enjoy it right? The atmosphere of

one Meshuggah album becomes engulfing, hypnotic after you grasp it. When i saw them live i remember it

was the most tribal musical experience i had ever gone through. The constant pounding, the heavy tone,

the dissonance.. All of it works together to blast your senses



EDIT: if i gotta compare, Gojira have some of that atmosphere too, mainly in their longer songs. I

mean the heaviness and somewhat hypnotic effect caused by repetition and such.

Emyay
March 26th 2014


6282 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

they are amazing live

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Really are, kings, tbh.



Anyway there a shit ton of sub genres in and around metal that i "don't get". Oranges and apples, to each its own

BigPleb
March 26th 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol Jac, contrib speech.

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

Would you say thrash fans would dig this band more than not?

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You have a point, i do recall Simba's discussion now, actually.

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@tranta, was that question for me?

tempest--
March 26th 2014


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"Now I do like a quite a bit of this band's stuff"

my point is more about people that hate the band and everything they've done. clearly if you like anything by them then you must at some level understand what they try to do with their music.
"they're just disjointed and snoozy, pummeling you for the sake of pummeling you."

perfectly reasonable argument

I'm really talking about people "not getting it" when they post shit like "all it is is repetition and it's boring and nothing ever changes" you know, that kind of thing. the people that dislike the band for the FUNDAMENTAL THINGS THAT MAKE THEM ENJOYABLE TO EVERY FAN

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

Nah, towards anyone, just thinking because I think thrash in general has a repetitive feel.

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.5

I for one know a LOT of people that are into Thrash and love these guys. Other than that, there are

clearly some grabs in this band (for any open minded Thrash lover).



Agree with Tempest again. I was generalizing back there but yeah of course there are some people that

can make a point on their disliking of Meshuggah. I can also justify why i like some of Meshuggah

releases more than i like others. So as of course there are always negative aspects to take in

account, some folks will get there.

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"I mean you always see tech death bands being condemned for their overuse of technicality of all

things, now that may seen stupid on the surface but in a lot of cases it's pretty sound."



That is one extremely good point for your side of the argument Jac. I got that upon listening to Spawn

Of Possession.

tempest--
March 26th 2014


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a very good comparison, but clearly "overuse" of something is bad, therefore those bands deserve (lack of thinking of a better word) their criticism. that is obviously not an objective thing though, as people enjoy listening to this "overuse," as we're calling it - they probably would not call it the same thing.

Relinquished
March 26th 2014


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Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

"most of the praises that pop up are "fuck this is heavy/goes hard/so good""



mostly every pleb post ever



lrn2selfaware

Relinquished
March 26th 2014


50192 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

i'd jump in on this but after 11 years i'm not feeling up to it

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Fuck this goes hard m/

tempest--
March 26th 2014


20634 Comments


yea I'd love to continue this conversation but it's 4:30 a.m. and I really can't be assed

Pennywise_M
March 26th 2014


7513 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

no it's not, it's 5:45pm



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