Oh shit

No album can be recontextualized by a member's death so much that it goes from kind of a niche album to a bona fide classic, let alone a Linkin Park album.

The average person is going to remember their Hybrid Theory/Meteora sound when thinking back on them... This is like their least popular album. Most non-LP fans don't even remember this album to begin wih.

I think if any album is going to be looked back on as a classic by them besides ht and meteora, it'd be mtm. Not this

I think if any album is going to be looked back on as a classic by them besides ht and meteora, it'd be mtm. Not this

Sadly this an album that is loved by a niche because it was a nice comeback, this is basiclly linkin park's perfect strangers, linkin park's blackening, linkin park's a kind of magic and linkin's park discipline, sure that crowd will praise and defend that record to the death but the casual listener will not remember much of this record due to the poor marketing, as a result casual people just remember 4 songs of THP and 2 of them are power ballads that could easily fit into MTM. If thp was the last thing released by the band it would have been LP's innuendo o LP's blackstar and it's popularity would have been much higher. Let's face it, people will remember HT and Meteora due to the fact that they were popular as fuck during that era and songs like in the end or numb have became massive hits that are constantly played on radios, youtube and TV like welcome to the jungle, smells like teen spirit and nothing else matters; scene kids will remember minutes to midnight because during that era it has the same amount of popularity than stuff like MCR, FOB, 30STM, PATD and more, besides the songs of MTM were present in blockbusters during that era

"this is basiclly linkin park's perfect strangers, linkin park's blackening, linkin park's a kind of magic and linkin's park discipline"

"If thp was the last thing released by the band it would have been LP's innuendo o LP's blackstar"

Key phrase: "Linkin Park's"

Linkin Park is not Deep Purple or Queen or King Crimson or David fucking Bowie. All of those albums are classics/albums that are universally seen as very good from groups who had already put out classic albums. HT (maybe Meteora) are objective classics because of their cultural impact, not because of the actual quality of the album(s). Linkin Park is not/has never been the archetype for artistic integrity, comparing them to those artists and saying this would be LP's fucking Blackstar if it was their last album is just too fucking much.

Chester's death is very sad and all, but you guys need to fucking stop.

Album Rating: 3.0

also because a lot of what makes blackstar such a classic is because its lyrics were basically bowies farewell to the world, which hunting partys are not

Album Rating: 4.0

I love your enthusiasm for the band Deus, and I adore this album, but yeah you are bandying around some pretty indefensible statements.

Edit: by indefensible I mean indefensible in the objective way you're phrasing your statements. Subjectively, sure, you can have those opinions. Objectively speaking, they're a bit of a stretch.

Album Rating: 4.5

If by Blackstar you mean more of a return to form, Bowie returned long before Blackstar

If by Blackstar you mean more of a return to form, Bowie returned long before Blackstar

I never said that blackstar was a return to form, I said blackstar was the swansong.

Album Rating: 4.5

Ah ok gotcha

also because a lot of what makes blackstar such a classic is because its lyrics were basically bowies farewell to the world, which hunting partys are not

I've never said that THP is the swansong, I just mentioned that if this was LP last album could have been the swansong of linkin

Well yeah

Album Rating: 4.0

So I never gave this a listen cause I hadn't been liking the new sound but I heard this was a good awhileeee back so definitely listening to it now

HT (maybe Meteora) are objective classics because of their cultural impact, not because of the actual quality of the album(s). Linkin Park is not/has never been the archetype for artistic integrity, comparing them to those artists and saying this would be LP's fucking Blackstar if it was their last album is just too fucking much.

Well the only problem I've seen with HT or Meteora is how simple the music is, still that's not a big deal and it doesn't eclipse all the positive things related to production, intensity, quality of the electronic stuff and more. In fact, claiming that LP music sucks due to its simplicity is something out of place, if you want ultra complex music don't waste your time and dig stuff like meshuggah, rush, Dream theater, symphony x, emerson lake and palmer, led zeppelin, fates warning and haken. Besides despite of their simplicity albums like nevermind and rocket to russia have become classic due to the quality of the tracks which not only depends of the complexity. Also is true that LP picked up always really trendy sounds for the era with the exception of this album and due to that they are not and archetype for artistic integrity, but many of the acts mentioned ( even some of the present acts in the hall of fame ) have sold out, queen did a lot of really dull stuff with trendy sounds of the 80s like a big part of flash gordon and hot space, also david bowie during the mid 80s and even with part of let's dance sold out in a really bad way that pissed off the people; a big part of the most popular rock acts in the history has sold out during one or various points of their history, but still that doesn't make less enjoyable the shit they produce.

By the way, I wont fuckin stop and I will defend HT, Meteora and this until the day I fuckin die and many people like me consider those 3 albums classics, if you get pissed when people praise chester and his band go to another thread. I don't how many of the so cal music elitists reacted if they knew that chris cornell, neil peart, claudio sanchez, dave gahan, rakim, jay z, paul mccartney, brian molko, matthew bellamy, duff mckagan,cristina scabbia, run the jewels and brian may defended linkin park

Album Rating: 4.0

oh man how did I sleep on this... Chester has some of his best vocal work on here

Album Rating: 4.0

sweet to hear the mix of Daron's riffage on Rebellion sounds really sweet with Chester's vocals.

Album Rating: 3.8

"Our love for making and performing music is inextinguishable. While we don’t know what path our future may take, we know that each of our lives was made better by you."

Sounds like they're gonna keep making music together to me

I've said it a lot, but god I hope they make an album with mike singing

i slept on this and im prob gonna keep it that way tbh

Lol. Its their second worst imo