90s trent was an edgy bitch and we will credit him with at least some latent darkness bc the alternative is too embarrassing for words
"subjective medium"
oh yeah recorded chronicles, my fav subjective medium

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A lot of reviewers come off super self important. Whether it's Christgau or Fantano or everyone at Pitchfork or, regrettably, some of the reviewers on this site, it feels like all they know is feeling like their opinion is the only valid one on the matter. If you disagree you're wrong etc.

i would prefer a reviewer act like that than the alternative

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I just find it pompous, elitist and needlessly pretentious. It's like "we get it you've got the best taste in the room, chill with the ego."

what exactly do you think the point of music criticism is

For me to be right

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music discussion I feel is meant more as a place to analyze things from different, but also equally as subjective, points of view. there's more valid perspectives than just my own, even if I will never see it that way.

I have friends who are more drawn to stadium/arena rock and pump-up anthems, I have friends who are super into hardcore, I have friends who, like me, are drawn to super emotional soundscapes. none of us are inherently wrong. the point is trying to find common ground and understand eachother within reason.

obv if you're defending actual legit terrible people like varg, ian watkins, etc. that's too much, but even though say I believe infant annihilator ruined deathcore (from a production standpoint, and from a transformation into basically just wanky tech death with breakdowns), people who like them are still entitled to like them. but i'm not necessarily wrong, i see a lot of deathcore bands heavily influenced by IA.

okay that is music discussion
do you believe that this is the same thing as music criticism in review/essay/thinkpiece/Content form?

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if music criticism seeks to be "objective" in a medium as subjective as this, and that the only correct perspective is that of the reviewer's, then maybe in its current form it's a self-serving load of pretentious nonsense.

okay, can you name a single example of music criticism that has ever sought to do that

your perception of a reviewer of self-important doesn't have anything to do with objectivity/subjectivity

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that's framed like a gotcha moment imo so i'm just going to say, music criticism and music discussion are hardly mutually exclusive.

they're bringing unique and subjective perspectives all the same. criticism just tries to be more "serious" with it and while it does lead to stuff one wouldn't think about otherwise.

if a reviewer is so pretentious they can't accept disagreement without a "this artist is dogshit and you're dogshit for buying in" framework it feels like said reviewer doesn't understand the concept of subjective taste. its the same energy as this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3qC_zQ4Po

ps: you were the one who said something was "scary in the objective world" regarding reznor. which implies you don't respect the artist's vision due to not personally vibing with their music. it'd be one thing if reznor was like a varg vikernes where his vision is inspired by reprehensible beliefs but afaik it isn't.

"it feels like said reviewer doesn't understand the concept of subjective taste"
again, can you name a single example of a serious review that has taken that approach
there are plenty of people who do vibe with NIN and will agree that his "vision" of making TDS in 10050 Cielo Drive for added grit was absolute bollocks. you can find a ton of content on the topic if you search for it

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Fantano does it all the time. Pitchfork does it all the time, they especially did it back in the day. If you can't see that then idk what to tell you.

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what are you nerds even talking about jesus please go toss a football with yourself in the corn field outside venin and johnny it's like 3am for you please go to sleep you have no life

lol link me a single Fantano review where he arbitrates as though his opinion is a be-all, guy is about as inoffensive as it gets for ego trips
'00s p4k plumbed some wack rabbitholes for sure, but if you're not gonna read naked indulgence as Person X's Own Subjective Opinion Foregrounded As Exactly That, i'm gonna suggest that reflects more on you

sleep when you're dead nerd, i will finish you this is a deathmatch this is my slumberparty

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his fanboys treat him like a be-all even if he himself is inoffensive tbh. just look at the "fantano effect" bullshit.

johnny have you tried pu erh
im beginning to believe the pu erh high is real