Album Rating: 1.0

It's not blatant advertising, so no banning. Edited his post though.

[QUOTE=YDload]This just proves how much of an asshole Scott Stapp is. I mean, why would all of his bandmates toss him out, get a new singer that sounds almost like him, and play almost exactly the same music as they did before? There are no "creative differences" here, just one guy who couldn't stop being Jesus.

I hope this band sells twice as many records as Creed, because all they ever had was chart-topping success without the critical acclaim. If Stapp values it that much, he'll surely crucify himself if this band gets bigger.[/QUOTE]


Dude, why r you bashing so hard on stapp. The reason he left was because he wanted to be a solo artist, or at least wanted a change of scenery. What you don't seem to understand that he's not in it for the money. He's in it for the great feeling he gets from hitting each note just right and making fans happy. He's not somebody who stays with a band, when he really wants to do something else. He wanted to find happiness. His wife just divorced him and got custody of his child. The same child he wrote that amazing song "With Arms Wide Open" for. All he ever talked about in interviews with Creed was how his son had changed his life so much in such a positive way. His ex-wife has ripped that away from him and now he needs to find something to refill his empty heart with happiness. But by the way, the CD is really good. Lots of stuff different from creed, but also some similarities. I love every song on there, its really quite good. :thumb:

[QUOTE=KSE+A7X+FAN]Dude, why r you bashing so hard on stapp. The reason he left was because he wanted to be a solo artist, or at least wanted a change of scenery. What you don't seem to understand that he's not in it for the money. He's in it for the great feeling he gets from hitting each note just right and making fans happy. He's not somebody who stays with a band, when he really wants to do something else. He wanted to find happiness. His wife just divorced him and got custody of his child. The same child he wrote that amazing song "With Arms Wide Open" for. All he ever talked about in interviews with Creed was how his son had changed his life so much in such a positive way. His ex-wife has ripped that away from him and now he needs to find something to refill his empty heart with happiness. But by the way, the CD is really good. Lots of stuff different from creed, but also some similarities. I love every song on there, its really quite good. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Oh brother. "He's in it for the great feeling he gets from hitting each note just right?" What about that time he performed that concert nearly wasted out of his mind? And on a less-specific note, Stapp didn't leave Creed, Creed left Stapp. Even the other Alter Bridge defenders in this thread can admit who the problem was.

seriously, "why r you bashing so hard on stapp". I mean hez teh best singer ever along w/ alter bridge! L0LZ u guyz r idiotZ :rolleyes:







AB/creed and their fans are alike in the fact that they both are mediocre.

The same child he wrote that amazing song "With Arms Wide Open" for

AB/creed and their fans are alike in the fact that they both are mediocre.

Oh brother. "He's in it for the great feeling he gets from hitting each note just right?" What about that time he performed that concert nearly wasted out of his mind? And on a less-specific note, Stapp didn't leave Creed, Creed left Stapp. Even the other Alter Bridge defenders in this thread can admit who the problem was.

If some of you had gone to the Alter Bridge message board i posted then you would see that most people on the boards totally hated Stapp. Flip and Mark made the right decision to leave Creed and start a new band, a fresh start.

Forget about Creed and just listen to Alter Bridge. OK Mark's a bit of a poser sometimes on the guitar with his foot on the amp. But he says he likes his guitar playing to sound and feel aggressive. And hey you can't knock the man for his ability as a guitar player. You would be lying if you said you wouldn't want to play the guitar like him.

I just hear alot of people moaning about creed and how they sucked and everything, but nobody actually really says why they sucked, was it Stapp, Mark's guitar playing, Flip's drumming or Brian/Brett bass????

^that IS true, most people never give their reasons, but two things come to mind. 1) many people disliked them because of their image and total sell out attitude (they just catered their songs to be radio hits), which I can't blame people for, because that is one of the reasons i completely despise bands such as linkin park. Now granted, Tremonti alone has more talent than all of LP put together, but the principal remains the same. 2) This isn't a Creed album review, and the very fact that you bring Creed up so much is doing exactly what I hope people DON'T do when they look at AB. I don't think it is cool for people to dismiss them just cause they are 3/4's creed, and thankfully, most people on here haven't done that.

So let's try and keep Creed OUT of the discussion. Alter Bridge is a completely new band, and they rock.

P.S. to show that I am not a completely stubborn idiot, I am going to revamp my rating. While I DO think this is the best album of all time, I don't really think it is the GREATEST of all time... if that makes any sense...

This isn't a Creed album review, and the very fact that you bring Creed up so much is doing exactly what I hope people DON'T do when they look at AB. I don't think it is cool for people to dismiss them just cause they are 3/4's creed, and thankfully, most people on here haven't done that.

[QUOTE=splashfreak]^that IS true, most people never give their reasons, but two things come to mind. 1) many people disliked them because of their image and total sell out attitude (they just catered their songs to be radio hits), which I can't blame people for, because that is one of the reasons i completely despise bands such as linkin park. Now granted, Tremonti alone has more talent than all of LP put together, but the principal remains the same. 2) This isn't a Creed album review, and the very fact that you bring Creed up so much is doing exactly what I hope people DON'T do when they look at AB. I don't think it is cool for people to dismiss them just cause they are 3/4's creed, and thankfully, most people on here haven't done that.

So let's try and keep Creed OUT of the discussion. Alter Bridge is a completely new band, and they rock.

P.S. to show that I am not a completely stubborn idiot, I am going to revamp my rating. While I DO think this is the best album of all time, I don't really think it is the GREATEST of all time... if that makes any sense...[/QUOTE]

This is one of the most intelligent and open-minded posts I've read from a fan dealing with attacks by ignoramuses. Quite an improvement from the childish bitch-slapping earlier between some of us in here, wouldn't you say? Splashfreak, that was one awesome post right there, and I agree with every bit of it. Alter Bridge, like I said in my personal review early in the thread, are a different band. But like any band where the members once comprised another group, they sound like it, and they don't have enough confidence in the band's integrity yet. They really do want to shake the shadow of Creed. For instance, in last month's Guitar One, Tremonti reffered to any performance of Creed tunes AB might do as "I have no intention of basking in the legacy of my old band by getting up there and playing Creed cover tunes. We'll never do a Creed song live as long as we live. This is a different band, and we're gonna play our songs." That's a hugely important step. They will hopefully stop chickening out on selection of singles and pick the coolest songs rather than the stereotypically catchiest. Stairway to Heaven wasn't "catchy." It was "beautiful," and "badass." Which is why THAT's one of the best rock songs of all time, and not something like "Come Sail Away" by Styx. I think that once Myles gets more input, hopefully on guitar as well, that will totally add a new dimension to it. Myles on primary rhythm and Tremonti doing all the cool high-neck register parts during verses would be a brilliant thing to see, instead of them all blasting out a rhythm in unison.

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=Ripper22]This is one of the most intelligent and open-minded posts I've read from a fan dealing with attacks by ignoramuses. Quite an improvement from the childish bitch-slapping earlier between some of us in here, wouldn't you say? Splashfreak, that was one awesome post right there, and I agree with every bit of it. Alter Bridge, like I said in my personal review early in the thread, are a different band. But like any band where the members once comprised another group, they sound like it, and they don't have enough confidence in the band's integrity yet. They really do want to shake the shadow of Creed. For instance, in last month's Guitar One, Tremonti reffered to any performance of Creed tunes AB might do as "I have no intention of basking in the legacy of my old band by getting up there and playing Creed cover tunes. We'll never do a Creed song live as long as we live. This is a different band, and we're gonna play our songs." That's a hugely important step. They will hopefully stop chickening out on selection of singles and pick the coolest songs rather than the stereotypically catchiest. Stairway to Heaven wasn't "catchy." It was "beautiful," and "badass." Which is why THAT's one of the best rock songs of all time, and not something like "Come Sail Away" by Styx. I think that once Myles gets more input, hopefully on guitar as well, that will totally add a new dimension to it. Myles on primary rhythm and Tremonti doing all the cool high-neck register parts during verses would be a brilliant thing to see, instead of them all blasting out a rhythm in unison.[/QUOTE]





I don't think AB picks their singles.....WInd up records does....I could be wrong though. I have heard that tremonti wanted their first single to be "Down to my last" but the record company wanted "Open your eyes".



But anyway, I agree with both of you. I think Bands would get so much more credit if they/rercord companies would put out the "best" song, instead of the song that sounds best on the radio.



Thats why i pray that AB comes out with Find the real, One day remains, Metalligus or THe end is here as their next single.

So are any of you members on the Alter Bridge message board??

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=IsItLuck?]seriously, "why r you bashing so hard on stapp". I mean hez teh best singer ever along w/ alter bridge! L0LZ u guyz r idiotZ :rolleyes:







AB/creed and their fans are alike in the fact that they both are mediocre.[/QUOTE]



Way to sterotype and lump us in one group :rolleyes: . Why don't you go say that all mexican like to steal stuff *sarcasm*. Its basically saying the same thing. Don't sterotype peopl man. I have a wide taste in music and don't think AB is the best thing that has ever happened to rock music, but i still like em.

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=splashfreak]^that IS true, most people never give their reasons, but two things come to mind. 1) many people disliked them because of their image and total sell out attitude (they just catered their songs to be radio hits), which I can't blame people for, because that is one of the reasons i completely despise bands such as linkin park. Now granted, Tremonti alone has more talent than all of LP put together, but the principal remains the same. 2) This isn't a Creed album review, and the very fact that you bring Creed up so much is doing exactly what I hope people DON'T do when they look at AB. I don't think it is cool for people to dismiss them just cause they are 3/4's creed, and thankfully, most people on here haven't done that.



So let's try and keep Creed OUT of the discussion. Alter Bridge is a completely new band, and they rock.



P.S. to show that I am not a completely stubborn idiot, I am going to revamp my rating. While I DO think this is the best album of all time, I don't really think it is the GREATEST of all time... if that makes any sense...[/QUOTE]





Like i said they didn't sell out because the record company chose the singles.....

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]....Dude. Why not. When you listen to a Lou Reed record you compare it to the Velvet Underground. When you listen to a John Lennon album you compare it to a Beatles Album.[/QUOTE]





Because they are two totally different bands.....Example....Could you compare Audioslave and Rage against the machine? Rage is like Rap funk Hard rock and Audioslave is Alternativish/metalish rock. You can't compare the two because they don't play the same style of music. Its like compare apples and oranges. The same goes with creed/alter bridge.....totally different musical directions.

I don't think AB picks their singles.....WInd up records does....I could be wrong though. I have heard that tremonti wanted their first single to be "Down to my last" but the record company wanted "Open your eyes".

But anyway, I agree with both of you. I think Bands would get so much more credit if they/rercord companies would put out the "best" song, instead of the song that sounds best on the radio.

Thats why i pray that AB comes out with Find the real, One day remains, Metalligus or THe end is here as their next single.

Like i said they didn't sell out because the record company chose the singles.....

Album Rating: 1.0

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]Because they are two totally different bands.....Example....Could you compare Audioslave and Rage against the machine? Rage is like Rap funk Hard rock and Audioslave is Alternativish/metalish rock. [/QUOTE]



Audioslave and RATM both play(ed) hard rock, verging on metal; they just have very different vocalists. So yes, you can compare them. Even if they did play significantly different music, you could compare them.



[QUOTE=madcreedfan]

So are any of you members on the Alter Bridge message board?? [/QUOTE]



Do you run that board or something?

Audioslave and RATM both play(ed) hard rock, verging on metal; they just have very different vocalists. So yes, you can compare them. Even if they did play significantly different music, you could compare them.

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by madcreedfan
So are any of you members on the Alter Bridge message board??

No i don't run it. It's run by an American woman called Kim, she's a huge Creed and Alter Bridge fans and has followed them for years. I think Mark and Flip are so used to seeing her they practically know she'll be at every show in her area. The band allowed her to record a live show they did in Indianapolis and the band held a sign with the address of the site on it, so that other fans knew about the site.

It's a kool place, nobody argues with eachother. Musicians talk to eachother with some of the more experienced ones giving beginners advice. And theres tons to talk about. Fans also share their photos of them with band members.

If you advertise on this site, you will get lots and lots of spam and flames from people who hate Creed and would like to sign up on their message boards just to antagonize them. You had better high-tail it back to Alter Bridge Land before you regret it!

*not a spammer, but knows what will conspire.