"Yeah but they're dumb in a smart way. They know exactly what they're all about and is delivering the biggest and best possible version of itself. There's some campiness going on here that I can't help but love"

Hell no. Dumb in a numbskull way. It's like Underworld/Blade-core now lol. Fucking silly shit. They started fucking up when whoever decided Jami was better fronting the band than Reba. Now Jami doesn't even drum? So damn dumb.

Album Rating: 4.0

These guys would be way better if they continued to make stuff like Slowburn and Forever and dropped the industrial creepy vibes bullshit

Seeing their stuff now, I’m like “I see who really loved NIN when they were 15.”

Album Rating: 5.0

Speaking of Blade-core, here's a Blade compilation set to Erasure Scan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgiJh_URTZ4



I much prefer this edgy but goofy-as-hell approach to metal than the ultra po-faced approach of prog metal bands like The Ocean that try to convince you that a song called "Silurian: Age Of Sea Scorpions" is serious and intelligent music. Underneath is an album made by anime and wrestling fans and it doesn't try to hide it, which imo is a more honest and respectable approach to this genre than bands that urge you not to think that what they're doing is even slightly goofy

We're coming from completely different sides of the block man. I'm not thinking about The Ocean. I just loved with they used to do a lot more than now. They felt really earnest in their early years. Hungry. Converge inspired, but with their own simplicity and rough edges added to the mix. Now they're just another pretty big band, with an emphasis on SHITTY style over substance.

Album Rating: 5.0

It's just that I'm so tired of how po-faced most metal bands are nowadays, and The Ocean's Phanerzoic releases are one of the most egregious examples of this. Code Orange also take themselves seriously, but they have an aesthetic, elaborate music videos, extravagant livestream performances, and (imo) buckwild riffs. Yes this is Blade-core, but Code Orange are so intensely committed to every idea they come across that it bounces back and becomes fun. For Code Orange, style IS substance, like it is for any sort of entertainment, and to me that approach is a breath of fresh air for the genre

I love all of that, but the music being great HAS to come first imo. And this is not great to me. Which ultimately, they're not playing music for me and don't have to be. I just feel a wash of disappointment when I think about them. They could've been so amazing and they went a completely different way.

Most of my favorite music is pretty humorless tho. I love laughing and camp irl, but when I'm taking in art, I want it to be severe and challenging in some way or another. MOST of the greatest musicians and artists of all time weren't doing stuff that's silly. Maybe tongue in cheek sometimes but not full on silly. And a big thing I get from Code Orange now is that they're completely unironic about this mess.

Album Rating: 4.5

I don’t understand why the reception is so lackluster compared to how much people love the new ELDER album which I didn’t really enjoy.

Album Rating: 2.0

there's just so many poor choices in constructing the songs. a dozen moments where i thought "hey this is cool, maybe i like this" and then some shitty sample or glitch or transition or production choice makes me go "nope, sucks"



so much unrealized potential with this. and it doesn't feel like the band is self-aware at all going through this disjointed mess

Album Rating: 4.5

Could never get into this band until this album. So there's that. I'm still pretty surprised that something so chaotic and undigestible has essentially cracked the mainstream the way they have. It's pretty impressive.



The imagery this band conveys certainly helps in that regard.



I'm surprised at the amount of negative comments for this album on this site. Personally I feel this covers every base from nostalgia to experimentation and has some super catchy and memorable songs and moments.

Album Rating: 5.0

God everyone on this site is so terrified of being cringe. This is the most fun metal core release and sput hates it because they wrote a song for Bray Wyatt

Album Rating: 2.0

No. I hate it because it sucks.

Album Rating: 5.0

Here's the thing: it rips

Album Rating: 2.5

On paper I feel like I should dig this, should be more fun to listen to than it really is





I just wish the band didn’t take themselves so seriously, they come across as insufferable

Album Rating: 1.5

“ This is the most fun metal core release and sput hates it because they wrote a song for Bray Wyatt”



Literally who

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah who the hell is that lmfao

Album Rating: 5.0

"I just wish the band didn’t take themselves so seriously, they come across as insufferable"



They take themselves seriously in the best way. They have conviction, while other bands take themselves too seriously in order to look "reasonable". I've said it before but this band has a level of camp that most metal bands refuse to embrace. So many sput users complain about this being WWEcore but that's part of the fun

Album Rating: 2.5

Hmm that’s an interesting way to put it, I can’t really say anything already said but I wish I enjoyed this it. It’s definitely more interesting than when they sounded like just another Deathwish band

Album Rating: 5.0

I will also say the technicality of the riffs between this and Forever is night and day. You and You Alone and Erasure Scan especially are so complex, even the radio rock songs like Who I Am and Underneath have an extra layer of syncopation to it

Album Rating: 1.5

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