Deathspell Omega The Furnaces of Palingenesia
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MiloRuggles
Emeritus
October 21st 2021


3242 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hey hey, good on ya for responding reasonably. I'm not a fan of nations either, and have spent time earnestly engaging with the ideas DSO flaunt and learning stuff. I mean, my review's a 5 and I talk about how much I love the music and how much their ideas add. I'll happily acknowledge that humans are complicated, make (sometimes large) mistakes and can still end up on a healthy path, perhaps live in a more considered way than most after all.



The crux of the issue for me here isn't that people defend Mikko's right to free speech or that they engage with content produced by despicable people, it's that they give a group that is completely unapolegetic about spreading racism money, perpetuating a cycle that pretty obviously sucks

Frost15
October 21st 2021


4655 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, I myself hate racism, so blatant racist lyrics are not my thing at all, even though I could still enjoy the music (Arghoslent come to mind). I find white supremacy completely ridiculous, but even in that realm there are some interesting ideas (specially related to the conscious use of land and ecosystems) altough I obviously differ from their solutions. As you mentioned everything is pretty complex but I get your point. In any case I let actions speak before taking any serious measures, because along my life I've met hot headed people that say stupid shit when in reality they did not mean it. And people change, so I don't mind discussing and reasoning with certain extreme idelogists. It's difficult to express certain ideas or taboo topics and well, on the internet everything explodes too quickly.

ToSmokMuzyki
October 22nd 2021


15240 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

hey bad ppl make bad music what do you know



'Yeah, I myself hate racism'



RACIST! ONLY RACISTS DENY THEIR RACISM!

Aluktodolo
November 22nd 2021


582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

“but even in that realm there are some interesting ideas (specially related to the conscious use of land and ecosystems)”



...What? There’s nothing ‘interesting’, or even sincere, about blood and soil rhetoric. I’ve just read some of your other posts; you are completely lost in the sauce and I only hope that you snap out of it. Varg has ‘reinvented’ himself as some pathetic eco-fascist; there’s absolutely nothing to admire!



“He does not advocate ethnic cleansing, his scheme seems to be focused on taking care of your homeland”



Ah, ‘taking care of your homeland’ - whatever could that entail? So depressing to read someone try and intellectualise their way out of admiring a fascist. You’re not fooling anyone here, nor are your appeals to ‘nuance’. Edit; I’ve just had a glance at his twitter feed and it is absolutely *full* of white supremacy and anti semitism, like some racist boomer just discovered 4chan. Absolutely embarrassing and you’re a complete rube (or worse) for pushing the fallacy that he’s some harmless hermit living off grid. He’s posting ethno supremacist bile non stop!

Frost15
November 22nd 2021


4655 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@Aluktodolo I already stated what I admire about Varg. I'm not lost in the sauce, I love the sauce. I love different ideas from different perspectives. I agree with you about ethno supremacy being utter rubbish, but that's not what I admire about Varg. Very few people walk their talk these days and I repeat you contribute to things way worse than Varg by choosing what to be conscious of. I'm not going to enter a discussion about fascism but let's say Im not precisely a fan of it at all, yet you seem to think we live in a way better paradigm and that's bullshit imho. What's happening right now in the world is actually fascism in many ways...

Aluktodolo
November 22nd 2021


582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

“Different ideas from different perspectives”. You’re such a dishonest fool. Why do you think he’s using parentheses around ‘they’ and the ‘system’?



https://mobile.twitter.com/WargarW/status/1461798545565143043



He’s an out and out white supremacist facist, LARP’ing as some off grid Norse warrior. What do you think would happen if someone from an ethnic background decided to live ‘offgrid’ in his vicinity?



Also, what do you think he means by this? https://mobile.twitter.com/WargarW/status/1462485281928581127



The guy has so many ‘interesting perspectives’, for someone who spends most of his time posting and talking about Jews. Such a complex, nuanced man!

Frost15
November 22nd 2021


4655 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"You’re such a dishonest fool. Why do you think he’s using parentheses around ‘they’ and the ‘system’?" Cool way to address someone haha. Of course I know he has anti-semitic views, now do I share them? Nope. But again, I let actions in everyday life speak. Sure, I think Varg says a lot of stupid things, it's not like I agree with him on everything he says. Anyway, apart from some Youtube videos, I don't like social networks and I don't use them. People say stupid things all the time there. I'm actually pretty sure you follow or contribute to someone who has expressed hateful or stupid comments at some point. It's the norm in this polarized technology ridden world, but at the end of the day what I really care is actions in the real world, that's what really worries me.

"What do you think would happen if someone from an ethnic background decided to live ‘offgrid’ in his vicinity?" Sincerely I don't know. You seem to think he would kill him for sure or something like that. Following that reasoning there would be a lot of dead people in the streets judging by social media polarized and hateful atmosphere. During my lifetime I've met people who used to have racial prejudices and later changed their mind and attitude. I prefer to live in a society where you can express things, no matter how radical, and discuss them, than one that employs censorship. In the long run I think it's way better because censorship means a censor power will decide what can be said and what can't be said, and that's very dangerous, specially considering how power changes hands and is used to manipulate the masses.

Aluktodolo
November 22nd 2021


582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

“I let actions in everyday life speak.”



You’re such a coward. A continuous barrage of racism, anti immigration rhetoric, anti semitism, calls for ‘purifying’ the homeland etc etc IS action. It’s incredibly dangerous, especially with the current rise of fascism in the EU.



“I prefer to live in a society where you can express things, no matter how radical, and discuss them, than one that employs censorship.”



Why have you pivoted straight to censorship? It’s so predictable. What is there even to ‘discuss’? The man absolutely detests non whites and would happily eradicate them from the face of the earth if he could. You’re faced with the views of an incredibly deranged fascist, who is absolutely obsessed with Jews and the ‘homeland’ (read: wish for a white ethnostate), and you respond with this feigned moral panic over ‘free speech’. You admire an absolutely vile piece of shit, who doesn’t even make music anymore to hide behind. You can waffle about ‘different views points’ all you want, but what does this say about you?

ToSmokMuzyki
November 22nd 2021


15240 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

review me next

Frost15
November 22nd 2021


4655 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@Aluktodolo I'm not a coward. I like to talk with all kinds of people and I always express my absolute dislike about certain ideas. I'm interested in what makes people behave and think the way they do. Where I posibly differ with you is that you seem to see fascism when it comes only from one side. I see "fascism" everywhere now, if we see fascism in it's dictatorial power, strong censorship, destroy and suppress the opposition way. Some are ultranationalists, some define themselves as communists... but all of them behaving in a very fascists fashion. It's difficult to categorize my set of current ideas but I guess I'm closer to anarchism than anything else, so I don't like fascism at all.

"Why have you pivoted straight to censorship?" I pivoted towards censorship because it's very present nowadays, actually Varg was banned from a famous platform and some countries have laws that forbid even talking about certain things. It's also seen in the cancel culture that is seen often on social networks. We are normalizing it on the internet, and that worries me.

"The man absolutely detests non whites and would happily eradicate them from the face of the earth if he could." I could be wrong but that's not what I got from his views (note again that I do not necessarily share them). He promotes an ethno-states kind of world, which is the view that each ethnics should take care of the land they are born into, and as I stated earlier that's not something I share, specially in today's circumstances.

"You admire an absolutely vile piece of shit" Ok, If that's how you see the situation I can't change your mind, but let me tell you that right now I'm way more worried about the fact that I lost my job and freedom because I didn't want to enter a medical experiment than what a man from the rural area in France twits.

LeddSledd
November 22nd 2021


7445 Comments


and he connects modern day nazis to vaccines

great thread

Frost15
November 23rd 2021


4655 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That's not what I did LeddSledd, but what's happening right now is actually very fascist-like imho.

ToSmokMuzyki
November 23rd 2021


15240 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

i mean hitler was austrian and look at austria now

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
November 23rd 2021


18452 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The quicker the comments are bumped to a new page the better this thread will be

Heppasodge
November 23rd 2021


549 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Bumpity bump

Pon
Emeritus
November 23rd 2021


6187 Comments


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ToSmokMuzyki
November 23rd 2021


15240 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnVag2Nwaug&ab_channel=TheMemeMaker

MiloRuggles
Emeritus
November 23rd 2021


3242 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkl4Yeh-BTo

dedex
Emeritus
November 23rd 2021


13008 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

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Koris
Emeritus
November 23rd 2021


22679 Comments


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