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BigPleb
August 23rd 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

How though? Ye agreed, Moon Above is really safe, as are the newfound orchestral elements in the last 2 tracks. River is really safe too, I've heard those harmonics in other Opeth songs and it has the same structure throughout OMG.



Played safe my arse.

JamieTwort
August 23rd 2014


26988 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Safe in the sense that if feels as though Mikael was thinking of the fans who were alienated by Heritage when making this album, hence focussing more on melody and giving the songs more structure.

JamieTwort
August 23rd 2014


26988 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's not safe in the sense that albums such as Still Life were htough. I mean pursuing this full on "prog" direction was still a bit of a risk in itself I guess. It's just a lot safer than Heritage.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
August 23rd 2014


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Still life wasn't safe it changed their style pretty significantly, and this isn't that different from heritage just more diverse and melodic and maybe a little heavier

climactic
August 23rd 2014


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

saying mikael made this to appease the fans who were disappointed with heritage is a bit ridiculous, i dont think hed make an album that he didnt want to



that being said this is a p big disappointment!

climactic
August 23rd 2014


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

still life didnt change their style much from mayh (which itself /was/ a huge step forward). calling it "safe" is crazy though. jamie im sorry but sometimes i have no clue what youre talking about

JamieTwort
August 23rd 2014


26988 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Still life wasn't safe it changed their style pretty significantly




It followed the exact same formula as My Arms, Your Hearse. I don't think any Opeth fan can deny that. The only difference was that it was cleaner and less black metal sounding (although MAYH doesn't really sound like black metal anyway).



@clim: I said it feels as though he did, I didn't say that was his mindset.

JamieTwort
August 23rd 2014


26988 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

How was Still Life not safe? Where was the risk? (serious question)

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
August 23rd 2014


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Completely disagree, SL sounds more like BWP than anything else

ChoccyPhilly
August 23rd 2014


13693 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I think what JT is trying to say is that SL didn't deviate from their style back then drastically, unlike Heritage

climactic
August 23rd 2014


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

mayh and SL are definitely their most similar-sounding records besides maybe the first two. i guess in that sense its not very adventurous but in the grand scheme of things its still a unique album

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
August 23rd 2014


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

How do mayh and SL sound similar? Musically BWP and SL are the closest

climactic
August 23rd 2014


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

similar riffing styles, note choices/scales used, atmosphere, and vocals to name a few things. bwp is the most different of the 3 imo cause it has way more emphasis on dense layering, jazzy guitar playing, and a much less riff-driven sound (still has goat riffs ofc)

SpiritCrusher2
August 23rd 2014


6531 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@Talons but BWP was released after SL, jesus christ. Mikael used pretty much the same formula on all of those 3 albums, how can you say they don't sound similar. this might be the first time I agree with JT lol

KILL
August 23rd 2014


81582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

agreed with clim, mayh and still life still retain the old rawer side of opeth which was lost on bwp, which was more accessible and modern thanks to wilson

KILL
August 23rd 2014


81582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

oh clim said it way better thanks

ChoccyPhilly
August 23rd 2014


13693 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Sl and MAYH are still more similar than most of their other albums, except BWP

SpiritCrusher2
August 23rd 2014


6531 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yea, clim explained it

JamieTwort
August 23rd 2014


26988 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Of all the statements I've ever made on this site I thought saying Still Life was relatively safe would be one that nobody would disagree with.





I despair.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
August 23rd 2014


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

BWP just sounds cleaner that's the main difference but I guess all 3 are pretty similar



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