OmairSh
08.28.20 | The unthinkable in football looks like it's happening, Messi leaving Barca. Bartomeu is a fucking cancer and has destroyed the club |
Jasdevi087
08.29.20 | i want him to got Inter tbh but there's almost no way he doesn't sign for City, in which case i am fucking HYPE to watch him start from the bench away at Scunthorpe United in the carabao cup lmao |
OmairSh
08.29.20 | For sure, don't see him going anywhere but City if he's leaving. They'll be aiming for the treble with Messi there
And yeah imagine him in the carabao cup haha |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | He’s off to PSG.
There is a part of me that hopes he’ll come to the Prem and be absolutely shit. He is an exceptional footballer but he isn’t the greatest of all time. |
Oneironaut
08.29.20 | Yea, where else can he go but City or PSG? I heard Juventus was in for him too. Imagine all the Messi stans still not shutting the fuck up about Ronaldo vs Messi if they played on the same team?
I hope he goes to City so I can watch him in the premier league |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | "He is an exceptional footballer but he isn’t the greatest of all time."
legit can't see how anyone can still think this, who else comes close? Pele or Beckenbauer maybe, but still Messi is on a different planet. |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | ronaldo and messi on the same team would be incredible don't care who signed them, fucking man u could and i'd be hyped |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | Pele
Greaves
Maradona
Zidane
Brazilian Ronaldo
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Pikazilla
08.29.20 | Zidane does not belong on that list |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | He is the greatest I’ve ever seen in real life. Dictated the game, was the equivalent of two great players combined. Majestic. |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | brazilian ronaldo doesn't come close to that list, he had several great seasons but fell off way too early. greaves aswell I fail to see being in the top 50 best of all time let alone challenging for the top.
a realistic top 5 imo is
Messi
Pele
Beckenbauer
Maradona
C Ronaldo |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | The impact of Brazilian Ronaldo was instantaneous. A marvel. The opposite of C Ronaldo who was all step-overs and no real product to start with. C Ronaldo has grafted and worked his absolute socks off to deservedly become an all time great.
The most naturally talented and out of this world type player with that instantaneous game changing impact was Maradona. |
Pheromone
08.29.20 | There is a part of me that hopes he’ll come to the Prem and be absolutely shit. He is an exceptional footballer but he isn’t the greatest of all time.
is the most Zak comment ever - if you want proof that your view of the past is rose tinted always |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | Nah mate. I’ve just seen better play against defenders who’d chop down players left, right and centre and have people like Messi for brekkie.
He is a phenomenal player but he definitely isn’t the best plus let’s face it he absolutely bottled that World Cup final against Germany. |
Demon of the Fall
08.29.20 | Comparing players of different generations is always difficult, never been a fan of doing so. Messi is the greatest player I’ve seen since I started following football 25 years ago, beyond that I can’t legitimately compare him to any of the past greats.
Barca must be the worst run club around, even if they wanted to rebuild I’m not sure how you get rid of all those older players on ludicrous wages. I can only see City getting Messi, which is both a blessing (for the league) and a curse I guess. |
Pheromone
08.29.20 | best player of all time mate! |
Morningrise767
08.29.20 | mate hes confirmed hes joining Aston Villa |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | Burnley are making a cheeky bid |
Morningrise767
08.29.20 | LMAO but seriously I can see him most likely joining Man City out of all the PL teams |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | I think he’ll stay at Barca tbh. |
Demon of the Fall
08.29.20 | It could admittedly just be a ploy to oust their president. |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | Yep. |
claygurnz
08.29.20 | I've always preferred C.Ronaldo as a player |
Piglet
08.29.20 | linked with cheltenham you heard it here first |
cazzill
08.29.20 | "a realistic top 5 imo is
Messi
Pele
Beckenbauer
Maradona
C Ronaldo"
Pele struggles to make it in the top 10 |
Jasdevi087
08.29.20 | all these lists tell me is that to be a world class football you have to have an astonishingly clapped trim |
Icebloom
08.29.20 | My prediction is that after all this fuss he'll stay at Barca.
Also, Cruyff should be mentioned in that top 5. |
NorthernSkylark
08.29.20 | if wants a real challenge he should go to city and play in the premier league, it's a harder league but he's used to being tackled all the time anyway
I would also say that he is the best player of all time |
qwenta
08.29.20 | Messi's career has been heavily founded on two players: Xavi and Iniesta. Without them he would not be what he has been: (perhaps) the best player in history.
He should retire at Barcelona but who would reject 100M a year ... |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | "Pele struggles to make it in the top 10"
i really disagree - maybe it's the fact his post-playing career is completely unremarkable but so many people seem to either blindly accept him as the best because others just say it, or think he wasn't all that because he didn't cement his legacy with an elite managerial career. his stats don't tell you everything but there just incredible even on their own. three-time world cup winner, including the 1958 world cup where at just 17 he completely stole the show and looked like nothing anyone had ever seen before. 1279 goals in 1363 games in his career - 618 goals in 652 games in competitive national and club matches. that's not counting his assists either, he wasn't just a striker - he was an incredible playmaker with amazing vision and often dropped deeper, in many a way as messi does as well. i think not playing in europe maybe damages his reputation here, but people forget at that point the brazilian league was perhaps the best in the world. it's either him or messi for the greatest ever for sure, i give messi the edge because of recency bias, but also that the modern game is so much more dynamic, faster and tactical after years of refining the sport.
"Also, Cruyff should be mentioned in that top 5."
good shout actually, he's definitely in the top 10, maybe tied for 5th imo |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | literally anybody in the conversation for the best of all time title had an incredible team of players around them |
OmairSh
08.29.20 | Iniesta is my favourite player of all time but I can't deny that Messi is the GOAT
And no this is not a ploy to get rid of the president. It's gone WAY beyond that now and this has been building for a while now. Bartomeu the cunt has burned all the bridges. And City is the most likely AND logical destination, its a no brainer (even as a Barca fan that would love him to retire at Barca, I can see him fitting really well in Pep's City). He will do well wherever he goes regardless, even at 33 he's still a beast |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | “literally anybody in the conversation for the best of all time title had an incredible team of players around them“
Maradona won the World Cup with an Argentinian team that was lacking, he then went to Napoli who were distinctly lacking and won serie A (twice I think) and he did it while displaying skills and strength never before seen. He really is untouchable. |
Kusangii
08.29.20 | I'm just hoping the transfer to Man City goes through so he will once and for all prove all the haters wrong. Also feel really sad for him. Giving almost his whole life to the club and getting treated this way is a very ugly way to end what should have been a love story all the way through |
Sinternet
08.29.20 | fair point actually zak, that argie side without him has to be the weakest side to ever win right? ruggeri and burruchaga were both fantastic too but i don't even recognise half the players in their starting lineup for the final |
zakalwe
08.29.20 | Indeed sin.
It was the first World Cup I can remember (I was 6 and didn’t have a clue other than Lineker and Shilton) but Maradona was on another level to anything and everything.
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OmairSh
08.30.20 | He didn't turn up for training today. Not a bluff, confirmed |
zakalwe
08.30.20 | lol |
Egarran
08.30.20 | GOAT and no debate |
zakalwe
08.30.20 | lol |
zakalwe
09.04.20 | Oh and look at that, what a surprise the fella is staying. Fucking shit. |
Pheromone
09.04.20 | Haha imagine messi in a city shirt in hindsight |
Jasdevi087
09.04.20 | thank christ, title defence back on |
OmairSh
09.04.20 | Bartomeu is a disgraceful cunt. Forcing Messi to stay against his will. Another of his final years wasted without a trophy |
Jasdevi087
09.04.20 | now they're gonna lose him on a free too lol |