BeneaththeDarkOcean: Rec Non-loudness War

BeneaththeDarkOcean 06.27.14	Yay 25/25 artwork, that's a first
tommygun 06.27.14	every album before like 1995
BMDrummer 06.27.14	...discounting Oasis
sapient 06.27.14	Yeah pretty much the early-mid 1990s were a gold mine for great, reasonably loud produced albums
tommygun 06.27.14	yep bmdrummer morning glory was the turning point as far as i can remember
ArsMoriendi 06.27.14	R.E.M. - Document
BMDrummer 06.27.14	It's not even necessarily loud by today's standards, just so damn brickwalled
WhiteNoise 06.27.14	The empyrean - John Frusciante. Sounds gorgeous even on CD
Masochist 06.27.14	'The empyrean' - John Frusciante A thousand times, YES.
BMDrummer 06.27.14	go oasis
tommygun 06.27.14	yea empyrean is a very very nicely produced album
beefshoes 06.27.14	You can't go wrong with David Bowie.
Onirium 06.27.14	Basically everything Steven Wilson has mixed
Chrisjon89 06.27.14	recent picks - the new Swans, PJ Harvey's Let England Shake, Fiona Apple's The Idler Wheel. those three all benefit from a wide dynamic range. i seem to freak out about shitty mastering more than most people on this site. can't understand how a mastering engineer could be satisfied with a product when they're hearing clipping/digital distortion
SAPoodle 06.27.14	I still think 8 could have done with 'louder' production but it's still great. I actually love the production on 19, in many ways it makes the album for me
JS19 06.27.14	Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication lel
ChoccyPhilly 06.27.14	The Pineapple Thief - Little Man
Torontonian 06.27.14	most jazz recordings.
Wolfhorde 06.28.14	^ that. Beastmilk - Climax Boris - Discography City Light Thief - Vacilando CityCop - Discography Clutch - Blast Tyrant/Earth Rocker/Robot Hive Colin Stetson - New History Warfare Fanu - Serendipity/Coffee Crazy/Breakbeat Brew A Forest Of Stars - A Shadowplay for Yesterdays Intestine Baalism - Banquet In The Darkness Slough Feg - Hardworlder Morphine - Cure for Pain Nerves - s/t Quo Vadis - Defiant Imagination Saor - Aura SikTh - Trees are Dead and dried out wait for something wild Tom Waits - Discography Tomahawk - Anonymous As We Draw - Lines Breaking Circles
BeneaththeDarkOcean 06.30.14	^Dude, most of those are albums that contribute to the loudness war. Clutch's Earth Rocker hits -6 on the DR Database. I want albums that eschew the loudness war. Nice attempt, though.
Wolfhorde 06.30.14	Idgaf about some database, I go by what I can hear and I can't hear any obvious brickwalling in those. If you want to be anal about it - go ahead.
Kman418 06.30.14	imagine actually caring about stuff like this
Cygnatti 06.30.14	^ Right?
BeneaththeDarkOcean 07.01.14	Well, regardless of how accurate it actually is, it's pretty obvious Earth Rocker clips like crazy with a good pair of headphones (just listened to it today). It's mastered by Brian Gardner, who's been a prime contributor to the loudness war for years and years now. So, basically, your opinion is invalid. ;) As another example, SikTh's debut mentioned above is mastered by Vlado fucking Meller, which TVTropes accurately describes as "the Scrappy of audiophiles everywhere". I could keep going, but I think you get my point.
Torontonian 07.01.14	dude i think loudness war is gay as much as the next dude but i think you're going a little too far.
KILL 07.01.14	"imagine actually caring about stuff like this" people caring about good sounding music crazy i know! "Idgaf about some database, I go by what I can hear and I can't hear any obvious brickwalling in those" blast tyrant by clutch has clipping all over the shop, dont need no database to tell me that, the sikth record isnt too great either and obv boris is compressed to shit but its part of their charm n all. some of those recs are rly gd tho especially the morphine record which sounds amazing. DR isnt everything but its a good tool to know what to expect in terms of loudness, like seeing death magnetic has a DR rating of 3, you know its going to sound like absolute shite, whereas the black album has a rating of 11, theres many other factors obv but theres a reason so many of us losers respect the dr
KILL 07.01.14	"every album before like 1995" and yea that about does it
Torontonian 07.01.14	avoid new sabbath album. i liked it but goddamn i dont even need to check the database to see thats props like a 4-5 on the scale
KILL 07.01.14	rick rubin init
SaneTBP 07.01.14	"Basically everything Steven Wilson has mixed" Yup, Blackwater Park particularly, right? RIGHT?
KILL 07.01.14	boom but downmix the dvd and u got dynamics deadwing is the worst tho
SaneTBP 07.01.14	Classical for no brickwalling ~
BeneaththeDarkOcean 07.06.14	See, KILL gets it. :D