Gwyn.
05.25.14 | video he uploaded before the shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWGtee14pA
and some other stuff http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/26dz3q/ucrazydave333_makes_chilling_comment_on_spree/chq68s5 |
demigod!
05.25.14 | dang wtf |
Calc
05.25.14 | apparently the kid was the son of an assistant director for the hunger games too. I tried watching the video earlier today but it was so stupid I couldn't make it all the way through. he does this stupid little laugh in it which was too much for me. |
demigod!
05.25.14 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxcwkJbC558
couldn't help but think of this while watching that vid |
avonbarksdale221
05.25.14 | literally just heard about this. read an exert from his "manifesto" - clearly, he is a pychopathic narcissist who conveniently blames everyone except himself for his shortcomings. He is clearly a sick individual, but again it just fucking astounds me that a person as unstable as he is allowed access to lethal fire power |
SPRFanOf5H
05.25.14 | Thanks man, I really appreciate the hate. Fortunately for you I haven't put anything out bc I dont have an account there. Yes people, im the guy their hating on right now.
But seriously man, can we clear this up and be on good terms? I would like it if we can sort this out. |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | Yea tbh if he hadn't done shit I would've just laughed at the video because it sounds like a really dumb cartoon villain but the fact that he actually went ahead and did the shit he claimed afterwards makes it pretty crazy when you think about it |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | this all seems 100% scripted by some r9k regular who's coincidentally also very into my little pony |
avonbarksdale221
05.25.14 | Great comment from that reddit thread
This is scary.
I took a Uni class on the psychology and evil and one of the topics is the mass shooter mentality. We examined columbine and VT. When you watch the video you see it all.
-He blames everyone else. It's a form of narcism. People say it's not their fault and blame others. He believes its their fault for not seeing why he is so great and they should include me.
-Another is they blame humanity. It's this weird irony that they claim humanity is at fault when in actuality they're humans themselves.
-He dehumanizes them by calling them animals as to not feel guilty for what he has done.
-They're nihilistic. They think they're martyrs and they're doing whats right to combat the evil in the world. It's like a fairy tale where they're the lone hero fighting the bad guys
-Flat affect. Also combination that he feels he can grant life and take it away in terms of a god. |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | it's also really funny because he was 5'9 |
avonbarksdale221
05.25.14 | don't know how a person could find anything even remotely humorous about a situation like this |
Calc
05.25.14 | have you seen the video? taken by itself its funny. taken with the situation its creepy. |
demigod!
05.25.14 | now watch as USA's gun control laws remain exactly how they were before all this went down and nothing changes
america, fuck yeah !! |
SPRFanOf5H
05.25.14 | Sickening acts that happened today. Though what is worse is that im being compared to this dipshit because of a list I did today here on Sputnik . I was completely unaware of this news so I might've commented a bit stupidly but oh hell. |
avonbarksdale221
05.25.14 | I don't really want to watch it to be honest, but from gather and from the bits I've read he comes across as the most cliche super-villain ever. The thing that is fucked up is he actually did the shit he said. |
avonbarksdale221
05.25.14 | re: gun laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA |
demigod!
05.25.14 | he actually sounds like anakin skywalker, which sort of makes it less creepy, yet moreso at the same time because he's being 100% honest.. couldn't help but cringe at his cheesy maniacal laughs though
i just find people with conditions like this utterly, morbidly fascinating so i couldn't help but watch.
Looks like he also wrote a memoir of some sort: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto gives some real insight to how much of a narcissistic, sexist, and delusional psycho he was. |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | He's also racist by the way, check the link in my first comment |
YoYoMancuso
05.25.14 | great, now his name is everywhere and more people are going to get shot by some different lunatic. Awesome job news media. |
SurroundedByIdiots
05.25.14 | It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident. The consequences of this type of thinking would lead to demands to ban cars, ban knifes, ban airplanes, ban anything that anyone has ever died from.
Guns, surprisingly, protect thirteen people from violence for every one person that is harmed by a gun. This is straight from the FBI's statistics.
The key to understanding the need for guns is understanding humanity is inherently violent and the idea that people can be trusted/self defense is not needed becomes absurd.
Jon Stewart claiming "gun control worked after a mass shooting" is short sighted. He has no idea how many people were left defenseless. People are just horrified by mass shootings because it sparks their imagination and makes them feel vulnerable personally. Hearing that one hundred times more people die from honeybees than mass shootings has no effect on the average voter, it is the image, not the statistics, that is made relevant in their irrational minds.
I hope I have helped to clear up some misconceptions regarding gun laws and am not butting in. I look forward to reading your responses! Thank you |
ShadowRemains
05.25.14 | "clearly, he is a pychopathic narcissist who conveniently blames everyone except himself for his shortcomings"
he's not even that ugly, i mean i'm pretty sure he could've dated a girl or w/e if he wasn't such a giant shithead |
Kman418
05.25.14 | kind of ridiculous how everyones kind of just glazing over the fact that this is a misogynistic hate crime and automatically jumping to "well its all just cause he's mentally ill!!!" |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | The guy was reported to be actually mentally ill he went to a psychiatrist and all |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | oh yea and he killed more men than women |
Phlegm
05.25.14 | awful : ( guy had pretty good taste in music tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIwOKHZ_Bkc |
Wafflez
05.25.14 | I go to a forum somewhat relevant and this shits been blowing up. Also,
http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto
He was clearly a psychopath or had some other kind of personality disorder.
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ShadowRemains
05.25.14 | i believe he had aspergers |
Kman418
05.25.14 | if you watch the video its pretty clear he was driven by his hatred for women regardless of how many men/women he killed, and more specifically the way he expected them to serve him. im not doubting he would have been violent regardless but when youre taught "women are meant to serve you and if they disobey then they shouldnt be respected" its going to make things a lot lot worse if you get rejected frequently. |
Wafflez
05.25.14 | ^Where are you exactly taught that?
@Shadow, he probably had a lot more than aspergers
http://i61.tinypic.com/15wyxl4.jpg |
Keyblade
05.25.14 | "if you watch the video its pretty clear he was driven by his hatred for women regardless of how many men/women he killed, and more specifically the way he expected them to serve him. im not doubting he would have been violent regardless but when youre taught "women are meant to serve you and if they disobey then they shouldnt be respected" its going to make things a lot lot worse if you get rejected frequently."
lol you're reading too much into it. He was just salty he didn't get any play. He hated the dudes just as much for the same reason |
Keyblade
05.25.14 | Not denying that he doesn't hate women, as that picture above proves...but only because they don't give him attention and not because of something he internalized from a young age. |
Greyvy
05.25.14 | >>>>>Surprised there's no list about it everyone's talking about it
probably because this is a music website |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | He clearly didn't think very highly of women that's for certain, but he says he hated guys who had girlfriends bc he was supposedly better than them and they didn't deserve it and shit
There's misogyny but it's more or less misanthropy above it all I think |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | shit i deleted my comment by accident
"probably because this is a music website"
And? So what |
Kman418
05.25.14 | "Where are you exactly taught that?"
if you read into it more he visited a lot of MRA forums and such that condone that sort of mindset. even beyond that that sort of mindset is already pretty deeply ingrained in our society a la the concept of the friendzone slut shaming etc. obviously most men aren't going to take it anywhere near the extreme this guy did, but whether you realize it or not the same attitudes this guy is expressing are pretty common.
if anything him being upset with guys with girlfriends was a byproduct of that. that parts maybe like a 30 second side note in a 7 minute long video about how he's commiting this act because of the way women treated him, and even when he does bring it up he doesn't target men in general like he does with women, he targets men who "take his women" meaning that its all still relative to the women in the situation. like, even with that picture linked from what he said he straight up says that for the ideal society we would have to imprison and quarantine women. |
Keyblade
05.25.14 | "he straight up says that for the ideal society we would have to imprison and quarantine women."
You're overlooking why he's proposing this though because you're looking at things through 14 year old
tumblr feminist tinted glasses. If there's no women, then "all men would be equal". In other words he
wouldn't be inferior to anybody else for not getting laid, as they also wouldn't be getting laid. It's
just a twisted fantasy where he doesn't have to experience his (largely exaggerated) misery which all
simply boils down to being overlooked by women. |
Kman418
05.25.14 | yes and where do you think his entitlement to having women look at him and appreciate him stems from exactly
he's been taught that he deserves women to notice him and worship him and since that's not being fulfilled he's lashing out |
Keyblade
05.25.14 | Or maybe he's just extremely narcissistic and slightly psychopathic? Idk |
Kman418
05.25.14 | no you're probably right about that but i think its kind of ridiculous how almost every news site and discussion ive seen about this has kind of just casually brushed off the fact that he made a 7 minute video + many many writings about how he hates women and they're the cause for why he went off and killed so many people |
Keyblade
05.25.14 | Don't get me wrong, he definitely hates women and his actions are a result of his misogyny. My point
is that said misogyny is not a result of something society or the people in his life have ingrained in
him, but rather a frankly psychopathic reaction to his inability to attract women. |
ButteryBiscuitBass
05.25.14 | It's a conspiracy to push through CND bro |
Gwyn.
05.25.14 | I've never experienced any sort of TRUE gender bias nor have I ever been taught to think of women as anything even slightly inferior to me at all
It's not so much about what society does so much as what they don't do; Society doesn't approve of this, but there are so many individuals out there that it's not possible for society to always prevent the creation of someone like tihs (as in, having him grow in an enviroment that, supposedly, teaches him that women should like him)
As it has already been stated the guy was legit clinically not very sane, so whatever is it that he learnt regarding women was probably blown out of proportions completely by his instability, narcissism and possibly even taken out of some type of context |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
It would be quite reactionary to go about changing a law for an entire nation because of one isolated incident.
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treeqt.
05.25.14 | that's what i do |
Mort.
05.25.14 | from his "manifesto"
"The first real friend I made in the United States was a girl named Maddy Humphreys. Isn't that ironic? The first real friend I made in the United States was a girl!"
wow the casual tone of that sentence is somewhat disturbing
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SurroundedByIdiots
05.25.14 | 1 Why are you naming a list after a serial killer who wants nothing more than notoriety?
2 How are you qualified to diagnose his condition, if he even has a condition? Every time something like this happens humanity starts trying to explain it by distinguishing the culprit from themselves. In reality humanity is very violent and we just ignore it every day. Our food comes from concentration camps that would make the Nazis jealous. Our economy is obtained by military force. Our clothes are made by slaves who need suicide nets to keep them from killing themselves on the job. We kill babies any time we find it convenient.
I happen to think this guy isn't any more narcissistic than the people discussing why he did it. It's funny to see people endorsing a culture of violence while pretending to be appalled by certain incidents of violence that the culture deems 'immoral'. |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | you can't go ham over others saying stupid shit and then say stupid shit yourself man i mean you can and it's pretty funny and all that so there is some value in it but i don't think that's what you wanted to achieve so you kinda can't lol |
Mort.
05.25.14 | "Why are you naming a list after a serial killer who wants nothing more than notoriety?"
A serial killer is, traditionally, a person who has murdered three or more people over a period of more than a month, with down time (a "cooling off period") between the murders. Some sources, such as the FBI, disregard the "three or more" criterion and define the term as "a series of two or more murders, committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender acting alone" or, including the vital characteristics, a minimum of two murders.
Serial killing is not the same as mass murdering, nor is it spree killing, in which murders are committed in two or more locations with virtually no break in between.
thats all.
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SurroundedByIdiots
05.25.14 | "you can't go ham over others saying stupid shit and then say stupid shit yourself man i mean you can and it's pretty funny and all that so there is some value in it but i don't think that's what you wanted to achieve so you kinda can't lol" english please.
The definition of a serial killer vs mass murderer is irrelevant. The fact is the entire culture is violent and usually that violence works to make your lives easier so you accept it. Yet you want to have your cake and eat it to and pretend situations like this demand action, when you aren't willing to take the first step towards a solution (and no, a solution isn't banning people's self defense weapons). |
ffs
05.25.14 | most serial killers etc have pretty cool reasons for doing horrific sex murders and stuff but this guy
was a huge fucking baby |
Mort.
05.25.14 | "The definition of a serial killer vs mass murderer is irrelevant"
yeah i know but i just wanted to point it out because theyre commonly mixed up |
NordicMindset
05.25.14 | He seemed like he listened to a LOT of whiny nu metal. |
NordicMindset
05.25.14 | And for a self proclaimed alpha male, he sure complained a looooot |
ffs
05.25.14 | Confound this 'Friend Zone'. What can I do to remove myself from it. Ah, yes, I'll murder a lot of people. |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | "The definition of a serial killer vs mass murderer is irrelevant."
to my post, exactly |
Uranium
05.25.14 | saw someone call him a magnificent human bean on youtube idk why im still dying |
treeqt.
05.25.14 | because this is your first day on the internet i assume |
Uranium
05.25.14 | very safe to assume qt pie |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | probably |
Ryus
05.26.14 | and why the fuck are guns still legal in the us |
PunchforPunch
05.26.14 | yea ban guns and use swords like a real man ffs |
Ryus
05.26.14 | fascinating and absolutely fucking terrifying story |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | I think Last Resort was his theme song or sumthin idk |
Ryus
05.26.14 | read a couple articles now i'm depressed, gonna watch some silicon valley to cheer myself up |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | http://i.imgur.com/YlqWXrL.jpg |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | I mean I'd kinda sympathize with him if he wasn't a fucking killer |
BMDrummer
05.26.14 | Creepy as fuck story. Sometimes I get really mad at shitheads at school, but every time I read a story like this I know murder is wrong. Of course, I knew it was wrong in the first place. |
Trebor.
05.26.14 | I can't wait until the media starts blaming game of thrones |
ffs
05.26.14 | murder is wrong y'all, find more fresh good insights at sputnik to the music at dot com |
silentstar
05.26.14 | he took enough selfies to last a lifetime
https://www.facebook.com/elliot.rodger.3 |
BMDrummer
05.26.14 | I usually just listen to Eyehategod or early Swans, it helps |
ffs
05.26.14 | misogyny and narcissism aside, have you seen this guy's Music Likes on facebook. Glad He's Dead |
BMDrummer
05.26.14 | Wow, what a sick fuck |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | "He seemed like he listened to a LOT of whiny nu metal."
Well, I was right... |
Satellite
05.26.14 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRDAWBo16PE |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | Linkin Park - aw come on man, why? Taint their name with this? Although I guess he did become "Numb" in the end to his own hatred of himself and society.
Three Days Grace - I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU, nuff said
3 Doors Down - You're getting closer to pushing my life of the edge - ok, I see
The Fray - lol lame, can't see any connection
Green Day - Platypus, The Grouch, Brat? They got too many murder songs to count
Rammstein - well, I guess he couldn't relate to "Pussy"
Nickelback - heheheh
Lifehouse - lame too, can't see the link
Breaking Benjamin - Forever and ever, the scars remained.
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Satellite
05.26.14 | the grouch isn't about murder |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | I meant Take Back |
demigod!
05.26.14 | i blame society |
Keyblade
05.26.14 | "Linkin Park - aw come on man, why? Taint their name with this? Although I guess he did become "Numb" in the end to his own hatred of himself and society."
Dude |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | that's what happens to people with no waifu |
silentstar
05.26.14 | green the detective finding links between music and people
*applause* |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | hehehehxxhDdd^^^ |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | I tried to find the links |
silentstar
05.26.14 | "that's what happens to people with no waifu"
i thought anime pillows were a legit option tho |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | waifu sounds like a wafer |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | vocaroo yourself saying both or i won't believe it |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | i dont get these obscure chinese references |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | also, the pillows are quite expensive but he had $$$$$$ so idk |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | should watch some chinese cartoons then man |
tommygun
05.26.14 | dude was p much oliver from the oc man gr8 show |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | what a goofer :^) |
someguest
05.26.14 | "and why the fuck are guns still legal in the us"
population control |
ShadowRemains
05.26.14 | lol |
ffs
05.26.14 | i respect this guy a lot more than anyone who likes anime |
someguest
05.26.14 | might as well throw him in with the anime camp
neither can get any pussy |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | sounds mildly eccentric tbh |
Scoot
05.26.14 | most beta male of all time |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | he killed his roommates because they were "nerds" and had "annoying voices" |
treeqt.
05.26.14 | beta male tbh imo |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | and they were all chinese too who woulda guessed |
Satellite
05.26.14 | he really hammed it up in his little manifesto video. another mustache-twirling, scenery-chewing villain with no real motivation. yawn. 1 star. |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | little snide brat |
ShadowRemains
05.26.14 | "population control"
that's what natural disasters are supposed to be for |
Satellite
05.26.14 | nah that's what pulling out is supposed to be for |
someguest
05.26.14 | pulling out the gat |
silentstar
05.26.14 | http://i.imgur.com/RPxNfRs.jpg |
stranger
05.26.14 | ^ "inabilty to strongarm himself into relationship" = is a massive pussy, which is a dealbreaker in regards to getting laid sry virgin |
Gwyn.
05.26.14 | aren't you like 15 or 16 |
Kman418
05.26.14 | I mean I'd kinda sympathize with him if he wasn't a fucking killer
I mean I'd kinda sympathize with him if he wasn't a fucking killer
I mean I'd kinda sympathize with him if he wasn't a fucking killer
I mean I'd kinda sympathize with him if he wasn't a fucking killer
but no you guys are right the mindset he holds was just because he was psycho and isn't a cultural norm at all |
ShadowRemains
05.26.14 | green baron says a lot of dumb things |
Kman418
05.26.14 | admittedly he is 14 too but ive seen other stuff along those lines in this thread/other parts of the internet |
ShadowRemains
05.26.14 | yes he was a complete fucking lunatic and anyone with that view of women a) will never date anyone and b) probably shouldn't be out in public ever |
Heapphones
05.26.14 | Too comically disgraceful to be real,, sounds like it was staged, but if real rip to all the victims!!! |
Wafflez
05.26.14 | http://i60.tinypic.com/whe5ow.jpg
Except for the 1 on the top, these people were probably getting less action than him. Guy can't even
massacre sluts properly, what a fucking failure. |
NordicMindset
05.26.14 | i'm just saying, i kinda feel bad for the kid who goes aw man, how come girls don't like me
not the kid that goes fuck your whore im gonna fuckin kill you slut |
SeaAnemone
05.26.14 | so are we sure that this wasn't LambsBread? |
SeaAnemone
05.26.14 | but ugh there are so many dimensions to this story that suck so much |
stranger
05.26.14 | "i'm just saying, i kinda feel bad for the kid who goes aw man, how come girls don't like me"
i'm just saying this is why girls don't like you |
someguest
05.26.14 | the moral of the story is keep your self loathing to yourself |
avonbarksdale221
05.27.14 | Shouldn't be that hard hey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4 |
