Pennywise_M: Morrowind Vs Oblivion Vs Skyrim

Pennywise_M 07.10.13	I'l either play one of these or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow Of Chernobyl with complete mod. I'm very inclined to Morrowind, love that game. What you recon?
Vakarian12 07.10.13	they all rule so get them all but Morrowind>Skyrim>Oblivion
YoYoMancuso 07.10.13	Captain Novolin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Novolin
theshelfmaster 07.10.13	Oblivion is so flawed and it's both frustrating and amusing because of it
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Haha wasn't that a bit contradictory theshelfmaster?
wabbit 07.10.13	Once you can cast invisibility in skyrim all challenge completely disappears. I do x30 sneak damage with daggers it'll one hit a dragon and you can just stay crouched and cast invisibility again and do it constantly. Also playing morrowind went for a stupid build based off the fact I'm a god at that game. enchant is so fucking goooooooood
SpiritCrusher2 07.10.13	Morrowind >
menawati 07.10.13	morrowind for the atmosphere but a heavily modded skyrim is pretty good
Vakarian12 07.10.13	Morrowind is life
InfamousGrouse 07.10.13	ehhhh not this debate again
SIMBOLIC 07.10.13	http://plug.dj/hybrid-theory/
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Yeah i figured this had been done numerous times but wth Nah, jamming Option Paralysis Sim
tommygun 07.10.13	morrowind is p cool oblivion is dicks skyrim is aight
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	wont choose but anyone who chooses skyrim is insane that game is tedious and uninteresting, they tried to take elder scrolls and market it towards call of duty kids
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	i mean i really dont get how anyone can choose skyrim over morrowind or oblivion every quest is go here and kill this person or go clear out this cave and shit
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	that being said its a pretty good game on its own but how anyone likes it more than oblivion or morrowind beats me. even the lore is less interesting
menawati 07.10.13	some of the mods were ok tho, the one that made mud crabs swear at you was funny
SIMBOLIC 07.10.13	option paralysis is coo moreira jam on hybrid
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	oh i never fucked with mods i got skyrim for the xbox
klap 07.10.13	cliff racers still give me nightmares
menawati 07.10.13	vanilla skyrim was shite, really need to mod it to make it ok
Vakarian12 07.10.13	"Ovlivion is the best" don't talk such rot
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	elder scrolls online is gonna be queef
menawati 07.10.13	nothing beats the boots of blinding speed
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	you know what fuckers? oblivion IS the best only "flaws" you people can ever come up with are like, glitches and funny looking faces. ok and the leveling sucks too. but its a sweet game
wabbit 07.10.13	I think they are making races be certain classes bleh. But it could still be cool. I just imagine the creativity will be removed for balanced gameplay
menawati 07.10.13	oblivion had sean bean didnt it. and he died just like everything else he's in
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	lol yea martin septim
Vakarian12 07.10.13	MARTIN SEPTIM TRUE SON OF URIEL SEPTIM
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	shame he gets all the glory when you did everything
wabbit 07.10.13	in oblivion you literally do everything
Vakarian12 07.10.13	statue in Bruma is enough. HAIL MARTIN SEPTIM
Cygnatti 07.10.13	Mena plays these games and I don't. I feel so un-hip.
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Im installing Morrowind but some of you folks are really making me regret it. Damn i played Oblivion once and loved it so... I think im installing both!
Vakarian12 07.10.13	never, EVER regret installing Morrowind
menawati 07.10.13	erm, nothing hip about playing these retarded things
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	You're right wtf was i talking about
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	mena has been gaming since pong
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	"Just play all of them you mooley" I can hardly commit to one game these days.
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	mario :D
geasoftime 07.10.13	+1 Morrowind
DegausserGuernica24 07.10.13	Runescape
Gwyn. 07.10.13	Morrowind is superior how is this even a debate
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Mainstream skele. I only put it here cus it would be stupid not to since it's a major release in the modern 3D take of the series, it wasn't really a option for me. haha I do agree with sonic, Skyrim feels too much like that kind of game that wants you to go "fuck yeah" all over, much like any other mainstream game these days, which feel ridden of complexity and depth and strive upon visual impact. Not saying Skyrim feels 100% like that, but a lot of depth was taken off in virtue of a more accessible game.
menawati 07.10.13	well the levelling system in skyrim was much better than oblivion, maybe it was more simple but in oblivion it was fucking retarded
klap 07.10.13	morrowind is the best thought that goes without saying
Hyperion1001 07.10.13	im stoked for that morrowind 2.0 mod thats revamping all the textures and stuff thats gonna rule
bach 07.10.13	They're all good.
UnnamedOcean 07.10.13	Never played Morrowind. I like Oblivion because it is richer in atmosphere, but Skyrim has vastly superior gameplay.
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Haha started a save on Morrowind, my Warlord Orc is ready.
Acanthus 07.10.13	Have more memories associated with Morrowind, and really look forward to getting back into it again. As far as the other two go I played more of Oblivion than Skyrim.
ZombicidalMan 07.10.13	I say Oblivion only because I put so many hours into it. Morrowind is definitely better, but Oblivion held my attention longest.
NeroCorleone80 07.10.13	Daggerfall
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	The open world atmosphere and notion of grandeur on Oblivion is striking. Morrowind's fantasy world feels pretty original though, and there are so many items to find, so much stuff to do.
Gyromania 07.10.13	oblivion sucks
Gyromania 07.10.13	anyone who says morrowind > skyrim is full of shit
NeroCorleone80 07.10.13	Nah, its better
Gyromania 07.10.13	so, what i'm getting is that you like a graphically outdated sandbox game that's far more restrictive
NeroCorleone80 07.10.13	Morrowind has more content and the character creation is better.
Gyromania 07.10.13	character creation is probably better but it matters not when you consider that it doesn't have the graphics to support it. plus more =/= better
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	Well, i'd change a lot of things in Morrowind, but as it is i feel like it isn't more restrictive than Skyrim. With better graphics, NPC routines and overhauled interaction system, better combat gameplay and a few tweaks on a few little things (like buying houses and going to prison) this game would be perfect. Like, as in perfection stands. Flawless
NeroCorleone80 07.10.13	Graphics is the only thing Skyrim has over Morrowind, and anyway you can just use mods to improve graphics
Pennywise_M 07.10.13	NPC routines would be good though and combat gameplay could be better though. Aside that, nothing is really NEEDED ya know. Imo And yeah, even that is fixable via mods. I don't like it though, i want the original experience, i always do. All i do is use the bug fix patches! If Morrowind was to be remade though, would love to see those implemented!
sonictheplumber 07.10.13	skyrim just has boring ass quests. they dumbed down the series for black ops fans
NeroCorleone80 07.10.13	Every game after Daggerfall is dumbed down in some way.
MisterTornado 07.10.13	Morrowind > Super Mario RPG > Yoshi's Story
jefflebowski 07.10.13	morrowind is the hipster's choice but truth is the combat is even more godawful than the newer ones so yeah
VisionsFromTheDarkSide 07.10.13	Always preferred Morrowind and Oblivion to Skyrim but since playing Skyrim I find that I can't go back to playing the other games, maybe it's just nostalgia.
mifzal 07.11.13	skyrim is the bigger more interesting game.
pjquinones747 07.11.13	As a dedicated Trivium fanboy, I dig your tastes. Love me some BFMV too but The Poison is my favorite. Morrowind is legendary, Oblivion has some flaw (way too overpowered once you get later into the game) but I love the story, and Skyrim is cool but I blew through the story. I feel like each game has been a progression. Bethesda has done well with all of them considering when they were released.
pjquinones747 07.11.13	And as for game music I played FF(VII,VIII,IV,X) to Trivium's Ascendancy and The Crusade as well as some old KSE, Haste the Day, Still Remains. Also played games such as the Baldur's Gate games, Diablo I/II, Warcraft, Starcraft to the likes of those as well as Between the Buried and Me, Chimaira, Gojira, Slipknot.
Funeralopolis 07.11.13	Morrowind is best I need to replay oblivion because I don't remember much else about it skyrim is an awful game
TMobotron 07.11.13	I always liked oblivion's thieve's guild and dark brotherhood quests so much more than everything else in it, I really couldn't get much into the game otherwise, quests just felt tedious.
pjquinones747 07.11.13	Skyrim's DB and thieves guild are cool but I didn't care much for mage's or companion's
pjquinones747 07.11.13	It's so hard to look back on Oblivion with respect because Skyrim's graphics make it seem so incredibly shitty.
Vakarian12 07.11.13	Morrowind: Has the most interesing world Ridiculous amounts of equipment and quests About 8 or 9 guilds/houses to join Spellmaking, levitation Just 10 times more content in general Best expansion (Bloodmoon) Best theme (Call of Magic) Also best combat insults (n'wah, die fetcher, swit) Oblivion: WELCOME TO THE AREEEEEEEEEEEENA MARTIN SEPTIM MARTIN SEPTIM MARTIN SEPTIM BY AZURA BY AZURA BY AZURA!! STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW! Also best quests (Dark Brotherhood, yeeeah) Best adventuring music Skyrim: Best combat/graphics Dragons (I like them) Everything else is inbetween Morrowind/Oblivion. Not quite as good as Morrowind but better than Oblivion. They all rule and are among the best things ever though.
klap 07.11.13	gyro saying skyrim is better just bc of graphics and combat is pretty shortsighted. graphics aren't even that big of a deal w/ mods nowadays and the world and number of quests and just how in depth everything feels relative to skyrim is humongous
Pennywise_M 07.11.13	"As a dedicated Trivium fanboy, I dig your tastes. Love me some BFMV too but The Poison is my favorite." Same here bro, The Poison is one of those albums, and yeah old KsE was also part of my video game music diet m/ Yeah for now i'm just gonna keep playing my Morrowind, maybe soon enough i'll go back to try Oblivion and maybe actually end up playing it a whole lot. Yesterday i was at my bro's house and we were talking an awful lot about games (mainly the elder scrolls series) and he turned on his Skyrim on the pc and just went doing some quest in order to "counter balance" what i was mentioning about people saying that Skyrim's quests were dull and repetitive for the most part. He ended up looking for a dog named Barbas, encountering it and suddenly the dog speaks (a dog that speaks yes) and we're asked to go talk with a Daedra dude for him. We followed the dog for at least 10 minutes into the wild and man, that was sooo ridiculous. LOL
Vakarian12 07.11.13	only Skyrims radiant quests are reptetitve (like, find this here or go kill him there) but I find em fun. Its an adventure getting to and from the place! It has it's fair share of unique quests though
NapalmCrusader 07.11.13	Actually the whole saga is flawless, but morrowind is better. Oblivion was really cool but I hated that you could only enchant items with the sigil stone of the oblivion gates and sometimes some combats could get a little bit boring, knights of the nine and the shrivering isles are very cool. Skyrim has spectacular fighthings and the world feels more natural, is not repetitive unless you play the generic bounty hunter quest of every city ( kill this renegade, kill that giant, kill that bandit,blah, blah, blah) besides the shouts add some great shit to the game, but the bugs of that games are annoying and the fact that they removed a lot of skills, spells and abilities just pisses me off.
Vakarian12 07.11.13	yeah I miss my Acrobatics skill!
NapalmCrusader 07.11.13	Well that was unnecesary, and athletics was annoying but there wasn't any reason to remove mysticism or absorb life spells.
NOTINTHEFACE 07.11.13	My best experience in TES series was with a heavily modded Oblivion with all expansions. i recommend spending some time with Morrowind if you have it, though, as all three are brilliant in their own way. There's things I love and dislike about all of them. Oh, and Bloodmoon is pretty much the best expansion ever.
Vakarian12 07.11.13	never been a huge magic user (thief/assassin type is what I play as in most RPG's) Acrobatics made jumping from roof to roof stalking the hit loads of fun :D "Oh, and Bloodmoon is pretty much the best expansion ever."
Vakarian12 07.11.13	[2]
klap 07.11.13	stealth archer + alteration/destruction ftw
TheNexus100 07.11.13	morrowind- best rpg of all time. broken combat system and it's STILL the best ever made. Untouchable quest design, writing, best world ever in an ES game, most depth of any other game in the series oblivion- worst follow up in a series prolly ever, destroyed everything that made the series great skyrim- very fun game, doesnt touch morrowind and it's still pretty superficial for an 'rpg' morrowind
TheNexus100 07.11.13	morrowind- 10/10 oblivion- 4.5/10 skyrim- 7/10
TheNexus100 07.11.13	oblivion does prolly have better questing and rpg elements than skyrim, but everything else is fucking horrible compared to other ES games
NapalmCrusader 07.11.13	never been a huge magic user (thief/assassin type is what I play as in most RPG's) Acrobatics made jumping from roof to roof stalking the hit loads of fun :D Normally I start playing as a crusader or a battlemage, I only played as a thief once in skyrim and I used a dunner
NeroCorleone80 07.11.13	I couldnt play a character without at least some magic, its a little dull if not.
Avagantamos 07.11.13	I played oblivion for a bit on pc while I was waiting to get skyrim and wasn't really feeling it. love skyrim. haven't played morrowinid
Atari 07.11.13	zelda
Hyperion1001 07.11.13	lol jrpgs
TheNexus100 07.11.13	wrpgs r betta
Cygnatti 07.11.13	I don't like these kinds of games because mages always fucking suck.
TheNexus100 07.11.13	being a high level mage in morrowind is insane
jefflebowski 07.11.13	mages are also hugely overpowered in skyrim once you get up to a decent level
Pennywise_M 07.11.13	"never been a huge magic user (thief/assassin type is what I play as in most RPG's) Acrobatics made jumping from roof to roof stalking the hit loads of fun :D" Nowadays, i usually go for the extremely powerful axe-wielding Orc warlord, with some Destruction and Alteration spells (which consume willpower, of which Orcs have plenty!) so yeah, it's a kick ass combo imo. My favorite
Gard3n 07.11.13	Oblivion and Skyrim are for casuals. Morrowind is for hardcores, and of course is much better.
MetapodUsedHarden 07.11.13	Morrowind 100,000,000,000% there's so much more depth to it
TheBuzzKiller 07.11.13	I played morrowind for about 15 hours after having played a lot of skyrim and a bit of oblivion. The game may have amazing environments but man it's just clunky as hell. You walk so slow and the combat wasn't fun at all, I realize it probably gets a lot better as you reach higher levels but I gotta say it has an extremely weak start. I won't be playing morrowind anymore it was just tedious and just plain not fun to play. I'd rather play the skyrim DLC's, halfway through dragonborn and it's pretty sweet. So yeah I'd say Skyrim > Morrowind easily.
YakNips 07.11.13	Oblivion will always be my favorite. I don't care if people disagree with me
Vakarian12 07.11.13	psssssssssssst over here
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	Yeah since the moment i started this new Morrowind save i've been having a hard time getting immersed in it. After getting to know the mechanics of both Oblivion and Skyrim it's a little hard to. The scennarios are awesome, but that doesn't help to create that open world atmosphere i have felt on Oblivion. When you think about how static the npc's are, humph. It's like there's no life in there, its all about you. Then the combat gameplay is a really unrewarding experience compared to the most recent releases. Having all that said, it's still an amazing game and i would continue to insist upon it, but today i had to overcome 2 incredibly stupid bugs that i thought the patches had covered easily, it was a huge tease breaker. So i think i'll be installing Oblivion. Like i said before, no doubt that Morrowind is the most in depth game and the quests are awesome. But i think i'd rather stick a different type of experience.
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	You can turn those off right? but yeah i see your point. Still, Oblivion and Skyrim seem better options for me as of now. That Radiant AI system are game changing
klap 07.12.13	ehh radiant AI is sort of a sham after you've played the game long enough
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	hmm... i feel so confused right now xD Shit Skyrim is good ain't it? I think i'm gonna try to run it on high settings. I once tried Medium-high and it ran alright, the pc was new back then and add tons of brand apps shit, now it's formatted and absolutely clean might as well make it
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	Hmm right.. lol seriously? That makes no sense then, making it possible for folks to turn those off.
apert 07.12.13	Oblivion was my first and probably is still my favourite, the Dark Brotherhood questline in that game is the best questline in any TES game. I can understand why people prefer morrowind as it definitely has the most interesting world and it doesn't hold your hand nearly as much as the other 2. I haven't sunk that many hours into it yet, but it's a really good game. Infact they're all good games, people say Skyrim is for casuals, mainly because it sold a fuckload for an RPG. I disagree, yeah its more accessible but people telling you that Morrowind is so much more hardcore are lying. All amazing games can't really go wrong with any of them
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	people dissing oblivion need to stop trying to be cool which its cool if you dont dig oblivion but if you honestly think skyrim is better???
TheNexus100 07.12.13	sonic oblivion is by far the worst ES game. It's barely arguable
North0House2 07.12.13	I always loved Morrowind because I'd hack my stats and I could jump from Solsteim to the main world, and I had super punching power. So I'd run around in my underwear punching people to death. I slaughtered a whole town in 2 minutes because my stats were hacked to 99999 on everything. Lol. Good times. But I really liked Oblivions atmosphere. I love Skyrim too, but I wish there were more enemies to fight. After you've seen like 10 different enemies, you've seen just about all of them.
Gyromania 07.12.13	"gyro saying skyrim is better just bc of graphics and combat is pretty shortsighted." most of my favourite games aren't amazing graphically and most are from older gen consoles, so graphics aren't usually a huge deal to me, but sandbox games inarguably suffer more in the graphics department because they're constantly being outdated. shortsighted with any other genre, sure. i mean, what's better: grand theft auto 3 or grand theft auto 4? the elder scrolls games are all about trying to make a believable and richly detailed world. skyrim is as close as they've come to accomplishing that. i'm not bashing morrowind, because i've had some good times playing it, but skyrim expands on everything that made it so great. also, vast amounts of quests do not a better game make
apert 07.12.13	what's so bad about oblivion proggy?
TheNexus100 07.12.13	morrowind is the best world bethesda has created
TheNexus100 07.12.13	i really dont want to sit here and write an essay about oblivion and why it sucks ass. I will say im a huge fan of the series (specifically Morrowind and Daggerfall) and Ive put enough hours into oblivion to really loathe it. Terrible writing, first dumbed doww/streamlined ES game, worst dungeons in any ES game, a lot less depth than the previous titles, incredibly simplistic and generic setting, etc
TheNexus100 07.12.13	the world/setting has to be the worst part. It's like they sucked all the personality, depth and charm out of Morrowind's design and atmosphere just so they could have more time to add voice acting and better graphics
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	Well, and as far as i know Skyrim still has a shitload of quests anyway haha Yes, that's it Gyro. A like this kind of game to be as realistic as possible. And yeah truth be told good graphics really help. Also that Radiant AI is the shit.
Gyromania 07.12.13	couldn't agree more with that assertion. oblivion is honestly terrible and everything about it is half-assed. every dungeon is the same, the character animations are laughable, the landscape is incredibly boring and flat, etc
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	Oblivion world is pretty samey indeed.
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	you people are fuckin idiots tryin to be cool gamers
TheNexus100 07.12.13	lol ok sonic, the game is so fucking bad
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	name one thing wrong with it other than "funny animation!"
TheNexus100 07.12.13	1. bad writing 2. bland, linear quests 3. every dungeon is the same 4. quest markers ruined post morrowind ES 5. story sucks 6. environment is dull, lifeless, one giant boring forest with no character there's six
TheNexus100 07.12.13	oh and DONT FORGET ABOUT THE BRILLIANT LEVELING SYSTEM!
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	none of those are true except leveling and the voice acting rules
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	and the people saying the quests are bland and linear really need to look up a game called skyrim
TheNexus100 07.12.13	i wouldnt call oblivion the worst, but it sucks, and its the worst ES game lol sonic if you think 6 and 1 arent true youre an idiot
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	skyrim is like fable or some shit, its a big dumb cartoon game for amon amarth fans oblivion is just truer
TheNexus100 07.12.13	skyrim has the worst questing in all ES games but has a much better world, better dungeons (not saying much though) and is much more fun to run around in. Morrowind is the only truly brilliant, near masterpiece in the series, Daggerfall is excellent too. Skyrim is barely an rpg and its still better than Oblivion
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	skyrim's world is nothing but gay snow and stupid dudes with faux-scandinavian accents going "arrow to the knee!"
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	but whatever there is no arguing with a bunch of game retards who prolly got starcraft tattoos
TheNexus100 07.12.13	lol thats an understatement, the environments are a lot more intricately instructed that those in oblivion. Bethesda did a lot of copy/paste in oblivion's landscape, morrowind and skyrim didn't. Todd Howard himself even said with Skyrim they wanted to bring back the wonder of discovery from Morrowind. oblivion has a plastic, rushed, unimaginative world. The fact that its the same company that crafted Morrowind's rich culture and amazing environment is striking
NapalmCrusader 07.12.13	Ragnar the red is cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdUW-9JJlCo
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	sorry bro but even the same forest a million times is cooler than some gay amon amarth snow
TheNexus100 07.12.13	youre a fool
sonictheplumber 07.12.13	dont care about viking snow sorry
YakNips 07.12.13	I like all 3 a lot. I guess that's just me.
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	wow shit's intense here. I don't feel so good about the question markers, but it's all about perspective. If you want to feel like an hardcore rpg gamer and all, no compass or question markers is cool. But hey, there's a good side to it. I really dig the fact that i can go "well now i feel like exploring as fuck" and not needing to remember a bunch of directions nor reading a somewhat weird/confusing journal. Which in the end would pretty much be like having a compass on your head anyway. Peepz might as well just go "ok then so i gotta go here, might as well explore my way there" wtv. You can turn those off anyway, but fucking directions to quests are nowhere to be found. anyway fast travel is disabled right away, i hate that shit to death
Pennywise_M 07.12.13	Also, no need to stick to the markers. Nah they all have major advantages. I fail to understand why so many people despise Oblivion and/or take it as the worst in the series. Hell, it's a fucking good game. It simply sticks to a more peaceful, conventional setting. I love it
klap 07.12.13	despise oblivion is pretty strong. i played it for hours and will always enjoy it but comparatively it is the worst. and gyro to be honest i probably like gta3 more bc i only played gta4 a little bit lol but that's neither here nor there. morrowind IS the most richly detailed and believable world that bestheda has created, imo - not so much graphically (although the whole setting of morrowind is the most imaginative and unique of all the elder scrolls) but the depth of the lore, the writing, the characters. it just feels much more lived in. granted skyrim did a much better job of that than oblivion (and i like it almost as much as morrowind) but there's something about morrowind that just makes me feel like there's always something more to unearth.
TheNexus100 07.12.13	klap gets it
Smithsonian 07.12.13	Jesus you people are such elitists, all three games are incredible just oblivion is a little less awesome...And the only reason everyone is saying morrowind is better than skyrim is because morrowind is nostalgic as fuck for all of us
North0House2 07.13.13	Morrowind>Skyrim>Oblivion The earlier ones are fantastic as well, even if they're old. But Morrowind is my favorite. BUT MAN THE SUNSETS IN THE SHIVERING ISLES ON OBLIVION ARE BEAUTIFUL. That was my favorite part about Oblivion- sitting on top of the Isles of Madness or whatever they were called and looking at the sky, it had such a nice atmosphere. Otherwise, not a huge fan of Oblivion. I don't remember a lot of it to be honest.
Havey 07.13.13	cidnaesus what was ur first ES game
Pennywise_M 07.21.13	So i've been playing Skyrim and found this particular thing to be kinda of a turn off. Some followers never actually die, and then it's close to impossible to drive them away from the enemies when they get up from that knocked out state. And they really spoil a guy's cover, and place themselves in the most incovenient of places, and i really like that they went for it, but i really wish they felt more organic. And them not actually dying is bullshit imo. It grinds my gears as i feel it sucks out some of the games realism, and makes for an easy exploit against tough enemies, like mammoths for instance. Lydia just stood there getting her asskicked distracting them while i shot them with my bow on the distance. At first i was like "oh shit she's dead!! Oh well, thats what i get for fucking with them in the first place. if only the bitch kept up with my plans and grabbed her bow too, we'd be fine".............. " OH WAIT, she's up...... lol mammoth tusks for everyone yolo As of now? Meh to followers. Nice try though Bethesda, keep it up
MosesMalone 07.21.13	Oblivion was awesome solely for shivering isles. Otherwise, it's no question, Morrowind hands down. I played it for years off of the mods online. I break it out every now and then, although the wonder of it has long since faded, probably because the gameplay itself is kinda boring as shit.