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Strider 03.26.13	Haven't actually listened to Renacer yet, but from the looks of it (and from the singles), it seems that I will enjoy this album quite a bit. Anyway, the game is mindblowing
YourDarkAffected 03.26.13	pre-ordered it and can't wait to pick it up tomorrow. Yea, definitely grab the first one at least. It was (still is) groundbreaking
MikeC26 03.26.13	damn i'm gonna have to dust off my xbox....
AdolfChrist 03.26.13	i dont really get excited for video games anymore but adam sesslers review made me want to get this.
Strider 03.26.13	wasn't really that excited about the game coming out. heck, I didn't even know it was going to be this month, I was expecting it for spring. glad I did get it though
apert 03.26.13	got it coming tomorrow with tomb raider should be a good day
Uranium 03.26.13	bioshock 1 was the shit back in the day -super fun gameplay and the story has a complete mindfuck
fromtheinside 03.26.13	i would play bioshock if i didn't know everything that happened in the games already. seems like a waste
Funeralopolis 03.26.13	I wasn't interested in this at all seeing as how bioshock 2 sucked and all, but the videos I have seen of it and the positive reviews make me want to at least rent it.
Veldin 03.26.13	Absolutely stoked to play.
InFiction 03.26.13	Got my copy this morning. Absolutely remarkable game.
MichaelSnoxall 03.26.13	Gonna buy mine on Wednesday. Can't wait.
baldymort 03.26.13	Bioshock 2 was sweet
DamnVanne 03.26.13	shit. If I had glasses I could drive to the store to get it.
baldymort 03.26.13	I've only played it for an hour or so. Can't get over the colour scheme.
MikeC26 03.26.13	i've heard the PC version is absolutely stunning graphics-wise but the console adaptions are lacking
baldymort 03.26.13	^Yeah same. Depends on how good your PC is but.
Strider 03.26.13	I don't know about the console graphics, but I'm playing medium on my pc and it's already very impressive. I guess I could push them up to high, maybe even ultra, but I like them just fine
Vakarian12 03.26.13	won't get to play it for a while which sucks, can't fucking wait though!
Strider 03.26.13	my god, this is the best 2013 game yet. (yes, it is better than tomb raider)
Drummerboy123 03.26.13	Spoilers are all over YouTube so be warned. I haven't come across any yet. And yes, get the first 2. They are both insane games. BioShock 1 is the best game this generation.
TheBigLebowski 03.26.13	You are missing out if you haven't played the first 2 Bioshock games.
Strider 03.26.13	yeah, I won't be watching any videos for this game before I'm done with it.
Strider 03.26.13	well, I never had any nextgen consoles, and none of my computers were good enough to play the Bioshock games (except for this one), but I'll definitely play them now that I've seen what the gameplay is all about
ShrillYell 03.26.13	Got this on PC, waiting for the game to play this. So stoked if the story is as amazing as I hear. Fuck this school shit getting in the way of my gaming.
YoYoMancuso 03.26.13	are you saying you've never played the original? Favorite game ever get on it also can't wait to play infinite
Melons 03.26.13	IT BETTER BE
gwynbleidd 03.26.13	wanna play so fucking omg gonna get it tomorrowwwwww
Strider 03.26.13	Yeah, never played the original, and I do regret not doing so. but haven't thought about getting old games when I got my pc
apert 03.27.13	Got this today with tomb raider , but didn't end up playing as I play tomb raider for 12 hours straight and completed it, reall good game by the way. Looking forward to starting this tomorrow
Trebor17 03.27.13	Best game since Half-Life 2
ViralOblivion 03.27.13	Started playing tomb raider again and I'm mentally preparing for pokemon x and y this will have to wait a while
Chortles 03.27.13	that good?
Trebor17 03.27.13	Bioshock Infinite will go down as the game that solidifies gaming as an art form
YoYoMancuso 03.27.13	bioshock 1 already did that but ok
apert 03.27.13	Fuck that's bold Treblr
Chortles 03.27.13	well when you put it like that
Trebor17 03.27.13	Watch Sessler's review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jchIi-vR_js
ConcubinaryCode 03.27.13	I'm really sad I can't hold more than two guns but everything else rules.
apert 03.27.13	Seen it, haven't heard one bad thing about this game. Pumped
Chortles 03.27.13	wow
omnipanzer 03.27.13	"So.... Bioshock Infinite Is Da Shit" FUCK... I knew it.... I'll need to get it STAT!
Chortles 03.27.13	best review ever wow yeah getting this
omnipanzer 03.27.13	"and I'm already thinking about doing the other two as soon as I get this one over with. list is recent digs" Just the first... totally worth it... second is totally a wast of money. It's basically 1 without the great story.
DamnVanne 03.27.13	Booker DeWitt just YOLO'd. Game is p great
Scoot 03.27.13	fuck shit ass cunt i need this and i have to wait till friday ass balls cunt shit fuck
Strider 03.27.13	amazing review
Kris. 03.27.13	scoot like seriously holy christ it's amazing get it asap you can get it for $45 http://deals.kinja.com/moneysaver-didnt-pre-order-bioshock-infinite-get-it-459233505
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	just bought it today, played a few hours, game rules. Cannot wait to play some more.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	This game sucks. I really hate the clownish aesthetics and the plot is beyond retarded. It's better than Tomb Raider though.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Would probably be a good game if you could take the world seriously, it's just really hard to do it. You go from one extreme to another waaaay to fast and too often. 10 min of gameplay for the debate class, 10 for the jocks, 10 for the drama club then mix them up for the greater good. Racism is bad, brutal slaughter, "oh how could you kill those people", back to brutal slaughter, step behind a register alerts police, slaughter everything in sight a bit later and nothing happens.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Nothing special either, standard shooter with good graphics and level designed raped by console limitations.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	As for the first Bioshock, unique atmosphere? Game set in underwater city where you never ever swim or dive. Where after the initial couple hallways you go to the "thematic" areas that are 100% pure rip off of ship decks from SS2. Where the "awesome" gene modded enemies all look and sound as disfigured drunk hobos?
BarryEgan 03.27.13	The beginning of BioShock is great because of the discovery/learning phase as well as the fact that you have some survival elements built in - you have limited resources and enemies early on are fairly deadly. Problem is that it then enters shooter mode quickly after and gameplay turns into a joke because you are now rolling in supplies. If the game had gone on from Medical Pavilion and kept the focus on limited resources and scrounging, like System Shock 2, I could have easily forgiven the contrived and stupid story and shoddy shooting mechanics, because then you'd at least have some tension and suspense in there.
DamnVanne 03.27.13	Do you even love your own mother? Jesus Christ, let folks enjoy something.
Kris. 03.27.13	so what youre saying is that its 2deep4u
BarryEgan 03.27.13	2shit4me.
Kris. 03.27.13	ok bro have fun playin cod
BarryEgan 03.27.13	COD is even worse, dipshit. Have you even played System Shock 2?
BarryEgan 03.27.13	I was 'sperging pretty hard there, I know.
Strider 03.27.13	Life must no be fun for you, eh?
Emim 03.27.13	first two games were eh
Kris. 03.27.13	of course i've played system shock 2 look at this guy, throwin around his epeen thinkin he's a big shot!!
BarryEgan 03.27.13	And yet you can't see that Bioshock was an inferior rip-off of SS2?
Kris. 03.27.13	not at all seeing as how bioshock was a spiritual successor to SS2! i think bioshock was superior in so many ways. combat was improved by leaps and bounds, they got rid of the horrid levelling systems for combat and the fucking stupid inventory system. i can't even remember SS2's story cept for OMG SHODAN WAS BAD GUY!!!!1!!1!1 plus bioshock was pretty as fuck and if you deny that then you're handicapped.
Zamora 03.27.13	Original was awesome. 2 was just decent. Infinite is holy shit all over again.
DamnVanne 03.27.13	boy i sure do miss heavy riveting splicers in their ugly faces....
Kris. 03.27.13	north americans get the original with infinite comes on the disc 'murica
BarryEgan 03.27.13	The insane amount of hipsters this game is drawing in like a magnet I can't even remember the last time I saw such thing. Wait, I actually can: Bioshock 1. Turns out Levine is a very smart guy after all: he got his niche with atomic surgical precision, these people just can't help but give all their monies to him. A few hours ago I was talking to a friend that got really mad with me when he noticed I wasn't giving that much importance to Bioinf, while I could barely hear his voice with Levine's cock in his mouth.
DamnVanne 03.27.13	.....do you really think this way?
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Yes.
Devastator 03.27.13	Just finished the game, not going to spoil anything but holy shit even though you expect the twist the one that comes is insane.
Chortles 03.27.13	barry egan - failed abortion
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Sorry, I guess I haven't learned to enjoy the taste of excrement.
Kris. 03.27.13	you sound like a prick contrarian
BarryEgan 03.27.13	The game play itself was nothing special and it's a testament to how mediocre story based FPS's are these days that everyone is sucking the games dick.
Kris. 03.27.13	cool man!! i think we get it go the fuck away
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Butthurt much? Should have used lube.
Kris. 03.27.13	your kind is just the worst
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Yeah, people who prefer to analyze video games and expect a higher level of cognitive thinking to be required to play them are the worst. We should all just sit back and turn our brains off and call slightly above-average FPSes with retarded, convoluted amateur-level writing "games as art."
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	I like how people seem to take massive pride in ultimately disliking much more stuff than everyone else. It's like, "okay, you hate the game, I love it, that's you having a shittier time than I am"
andcas 03.27.13	is it better than bioshock 2?
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Andcas, yes, but it's still mediocre.
Kris. 03.27.13	for once, snoxall is right! and andcas, don't listen to this guy pretty sure i'm about to beat it and it's my GOTY so far easily
BarryEgan 03.27.13	You must have some low standards, what with all the great indie games that are coming out this year.
andcas 03.27.13	good thing you put so far because I'm hoping some even better stuff comes out
Kris. 03.27.13	yes, the great indie games coming out this year that i haven't played yet! shut the fuck up dude holy shit
andcas 03.27.13	what the fuck is an indie game?
BarryEgan 03.27.13	A game not made by an AAA developer for the lowest common denominator and promoted by paying out reviewers with Doritos and Mtn. Dew to give high scores.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	You know, made by regular people on relatively small budgets, that are usually far more innovative, cerebral, and entertaining than mass market affairs.
andcas 03.27.13	like?
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	Shit like Dear Esther, Limbo, that really shitcunt game released last year called Anna or some shit, etc.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Minecraft is the obvious example. A major publisher never would have funded a game like that, but it's a ton of fun and it was a huge success
BarryEgan 03.27.13	http://www.gamesradar.com/best-indie-games/
andcas 03.27.13	I've kinda turned into a retro gamer after way too many disappointments
Vespiion 03.27.13	Bastion, Braid, Shadow Complex, Cave Story, Limbo etc.
Vespiion 03.27.13	Steam Greenlight is really getting some indie devs out there, too
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Retro gaming is great because back then gaming was totally different, it wasn't the mass market thing it is now. People played games, sure, but they weren't marketed for everyone and their grandma and selling 1 million copies wasn't considered a failure at all. The corporate atmosphere wasn't there yet so a lot of masterpieces were made.
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	Ah, the game was called Amy.
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Amy was shit, yes.
andcas 03.27.13	colonial marines for wgoty
BarryEgan 03.27.13	lol
BarryEgan 03.27.13	For the record, I was trolling you guys, I haven't actually played Bioshock Infinite. Those were copypastes from a forum I was reading.
Kris. 03.27.13	just finished it the ending oh my fuck seriously oh my god
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	I know you haven't played it, 'cause anyone who played it wouldn't have said those things
BarryEgan 03.27.13	Well, most of those were copypasted from various posters on RPG Codex who had actually played the game.
MichaelSnoxall 03.27.13	*watched gameplay videos and acted like they played the game
BarryEgan 03.27.13	lol
Strider 03.28.13	I hate you so much right now... and Kris, dang man, did you not sleep or something?
DamnVanne 03.28.13	If Elizabeth is as smart as i think she is, she's gonna murder me. I would murder me
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	Has anyone played 1999 mode yet?
Strider 03.28.13	what's 1999 mode?
gwynbleidd 03.28.13	a mode where you its proven who has actual balls it basically puts the game's difficulty into system shock's difficulty. I haven't played infinite yet, but if it's true, don't play if don't you wanna throw the controller against the wall lol, system shock was fucking hard
Kris. 03.28.13	i'm gonna attempt it once i run through the original again
demigod93 03.28.13	is this game really that good
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Yeah it rules. It's like the polar opposite of the original Bioshock. In a good way, of course. Playing on hard now, gonna play 1999 mode after this playthrough.
Kris. 03.28.13	not really different art direction but its more or less just like the original
demigod93 03.28.13	i loved the original lots but im still a little skeptical cause this went through some weird production issues which kinda killed my hype
TheBigLebowski 03.28.13	Bioshock 2 >
Kris. 03.28.13	na demi believe me, pick this up the ending is totally worth $60 it's fucking phenominal
demigod93 03.28.13	bioshock 2 sucked and yeah i might grab it when ive got some $
TheBigLebowski 03.28.13	Are you having a fucking laugh?
Kris. 03.28.13	bioshock 2 was so ridiculously inferior to the original i mean yeah it was still a good game but the story wasn't anywhere near as good and the fact that you were a big daddy felt like a huge gimmick plus the whole big sister thing was retarded
TheBigLebowski 03.28.13	Haha no, just fucking no.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Nah, it's not like the original at all. The worlds are each others' anti-thesis, the stories are opposites: one being about a populace trying to cast out religion and government, the other embracing them. The combat is completely different. Bioshock's was more methodical and thought out, being able to be tweaked and experimented with. Infinite's is much more fast-paced and doesn't let you have the same free-reign over combat you did in the original. You choose your two guns, your two Vigors and you don't really have time to mess around with all the gadgets and whatnot because it's meant to be a much faster-paced battle. Unlike the original which had so many more options. Because Infinite can't embrace any horror aspects like Bioshock could, it has to focus on the action, where the original could focus on deeper situations, puzzles and missions.
KILL 03.28.13	2 was ok, nothing on 1 tho yea
demigod93 03.28.13	bioshock 2 was a huge letdown after the first one, it was way too silly the multiplayer was tacked on and boring and like kris said the whole big daddy thing was a giant gimmick. like it was fun but shouldve just been a side game or somethin
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Bioshock 2 had improved gameplay mechanics, but because it was the same city as B1, its design really didn't hold the same affect as the first. And the story in 2 was laughable at best compared to the first game.
Kris. 03.28.13	i mean a man enters a lighthouse, gets transported to a fantastical city ruled by an extremist leader being opposed by a faction who believe the exact opposite. the man develops powers through changing genes (i assume that's what Vigors are) and stops the bad guy with the occasional twists and turns, more so with Infinite. if you're gonna go that in-depth with gameplay, then yeah they're pretty different but plot points are pretty damn similar.
Kris. 03.28.13	and sophia lamb ain't got shit on ANDREW RYAN
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	A SLAVE CHOOSES A MAN OBEYS wait
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	oh yeah well you're right about that basics being very similar, but in-depth they juxtapose each other in a wonderful way. Not to mention we go from a silent protagonist to a guy who talks a lot
Kris. 03.28.13	yeah booker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jack god i wanna play it again so badly FUCK YOU WORK UGH
Kris. 03.28.13	snoxy have you beaten it yet??
Strider 03.28.13	Once I get the hang of all the possibilities in combat mode, I'll start playing it in hard. but as of right no, I die to many friggin' times trying to find cool ways to kill my ennemies
Kris. 03.28.13	bucking bronco + that water one who's name i forget so much fun just shoving people off of Columbia and know they'll fall so far to their death
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Not yet, I'm about to go play some more now. I've only just started getting the hang of how I like handling combat, balancing my Vigors and weapons of choice. Taking my time with this, I'm doing lots of back tracking and scouring areas for stuff. You can't believe how annoying it is getting to a door/safe that needs 5 lockpicks and you only have 2, so you have to look around everywhere for more lockpicks before proceeding, just to find out there was nothing special behind that door/safe anyway
NorwichScene 03.28.13	I bought Crysis 3. Haven't a clue if its any good but thought i'd give it a shot
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	"I die to many friggin' times trying to find cool ways to kill my ennemies" That's what I mean by the fast paced combat. In the first game you could take time to experiment, in this game, you have to just figure shit out as you run along until you get the hang of it.
Kris. 03.28.13	oh yeah that's definitely bioshock infinite and exactly what we're talking about right now!
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	You wasted your dollers. Should have bought Bioshock.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	dollars***
NorwichScene 03.28.13	I'll buy it at some point. Don't play my PS3 much nowadays
Kris. 03.28.13	i heard crysis 3 sucked so yeah shoulda got bioshock
ViralOblivion 03.28.13	Yah I wanna try to get this might sell some shit
NorwichScene 03.28.13	DAMN! Ohh well glad got it half price
Kris. 03.28.13	if you guys have a good pc i posted a link up above whre you can get it for $45 js
demigod93 03.28.13	i do have a good pc, hmm
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	Is it just me or are handymen a bitch to kill? I'm playing on hard but still, the guy killed me like twenty times before I killed him.
Kris. 03.28.13	i played on medium and yeah they still killed me quite a bit there was one part when you find the sons of silence that scared the living fuck out of me and i actually like yelled OH MY GOD out loud pretty loudly
demigod93 03.28.13	im getting pumped about this game does it still have an eerie/slightly maniacal atmosphere like the first one?
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	I've been playing this for like twelve hours and I just got to the First Lady. Love lengthy games.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	@demi imagine playing the original but you were there when the shit hit the fan and that's infinite.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	No, demi, this one isn't like the original. The first relied on its close-quarters areas and tense atmospheres, this one relies on big, varied arenas with emphasis on heavy, fast-paced combat. And I'm playing on hard, just fought my first handyman. He killed me once because I cornered myself in a building, but I got him soon after. Just gotta shoot at the heart and lay down some electric traps and he's done for. Oh, and always keep running.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	I love the sky-hook trams. They're soooo fun to just fuck around on.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Yeah there was this awesome combat sequence right after I got back from the Hall of Heroes and the chick and I had to wait for the tram thingy, then we got ambushed and the entire fight was just people railing along on sky-hooks. It's hilarious flying past a guy and bashing him off.
zakalwe 03.28.13	Can see myself getting this, feeling slightly dissatisfied, keeping with it, selling it, going back to Dark Souls.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	.....
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	If you're not satisfied with this, then you may as well stop modern gaming as a whole. Not gonna lie, all games I've bought in the last three years have bored me to tears. This is the only game that has gotten me back into gaming. Dark Souls had me going for a while, but it wasn't enough to hold me until the release of Bioshock Infinite.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	I never got the love for Dark Souls.
HangEmHigh 03.28.13	Just finished this last night. Definitely worth the 3+ year wait. I love the references back to Rapture, but I hate how I can't go into detail because it might lead to spoilers.
zakalwe 03.28.13	Dark Souls is a modern classic, an original game that harks back to the old school. Snoxall fair play, I am looking forward to giving Infinite a go.
Kris. 03.28.13	well seeing as how ted was really really adamant about whether not saying or not infinite was in the same universe as 1, you pretty much just spoiled it anyways! way to go guy!
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	It's got an interesting and unique in-depth story that you have to piece together yourself from information found indirectly in-game, the combat is some of the best in games of its style, the challenge is rewarding with its trial and error style, rather than being flat-out punishing (cough cough Ninja Gaiden cough cough), the game has hundreds of different play styles and the game's sense of free-roam lets you choose your own path from the get-go, providing players to set their own limitations, difficulties and challenges. It's really quite an extraordinary game, but I just got sick of it because after I beat it once, I replayed the intro level like 100 times in an attempt to start again, but always stopped and yeah.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	damn there are references to Rapture? How far in do they start because I haven't noticed anything yet and I'm a Bioshock fanboy
Kris. 03.28.13	it's a secret, can't say anything else. just blame hangemhigh for being a douche bag and ruining it for all of you
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	does it have something to do with the tears? WOAH DO THEY FIND A TEAR LEADING TO RAPTURE? that would be badass
Kris. 03.28.13	SNOXALL JUST PLAY IT OMG
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	Idk I just always thought the game got its reputation of being hard by being borderline unfair. Or maybe I'm just not used to a challenge since all the games like to hold your hand so much.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	That have come out in the past few years anyway. Infinite doesn't seem to be this way though.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	I want to play it more but I worked the night shift tonight and started playing it at 2AM, now it's 3:51 and I need sleep but I just want to play more Bioshock LIFE IS UNFAIR, DAMNIT. so yeah, gonna catch some z's and play more B:I tomorrow, then I will return with the results.
Kris. 03.28.13	sleep is for women be a man and finish the game so i have someone i can talk about the ending with
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	And Dark Souls is really only a bit "unfair" like a couple of times in the game. Most of the game is just simple trial and error. The only bit I found really annoyingly punishing and unfair were the two silver knights in Anor Londo with the bows and arrows that sniped you off the thin roofing you had to run across.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	I must sleep so I can have full attention for Bioshock. I can't afford being sleepy and missing important things.
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	I'll try the game again after bioshock wears off. Maybe it'll hold my attention until the last of us comes out. That game looks pretty amazing and there's no such thing as a bad naughty dog game.
MichaelSnoxall 03.28.13	Nothing will top Crash Team Racing, let's face it
ConcubinaryCode 03.28.13	Best kart racing game ever past or present no doubt. Fuck dude too much nostalgia.
HangEmHigh 03.28.13	Lol I didn't ruin anything. I said references for a reason. There are locales too, that take many of the art directions that certain areas of Rapture took.
HangEmHigh 03.28.13	I think I might make a Dark Souls thread so we can talk about how that game gives you ball hair.
Strider 03.28.13	"Yeah there was this awesome combat sequence right after I got back from the Hall of Heroes and the chick and I had to wait for the tram thingy, then we got ambushed and the entire fight was just people railing along on sky-hooks. It's hilarious flying past a guy and bashing him off." I died like 2-3 times on that part, it was still fun as hell
Strider 03.28.13	"Lol I didn't ruin anything. I said references for a reason. There are locales too, that take many of the art directions that certain areas of Rapture took." I've heard enough about the 1st game to make pretty big assumptions on how this one is going to end. So I'm gonna take that for a spoiler
HangEmHigh 03.28.13	There's no way you can assume what is going to happen at the end of the game. You know that a twist is coming but it's nothing like "Would You Kindly?"
Strider 03.28.13	Yeah of course. but with little information, I can think about a whole lot of things.
HangEmHigh 03.28.13	Of course you can, that's part of the fun of a game like this. Taking the information you get and trying to make sense of it.
ViralOblivion 03.28.13	Just picked it up stoked to play it
DamnVanne 03.28.13	Best Bioshock, Best Shooter, Best Adventure, Best Story, Best Game, Best Tits, 5/5
Veldin 03.28.13	The ending is a clustermindfuck.
Veldin 03.28.13	constants and variables...
apert 03.29.13	Love how all gaming discussions end up at Dark Souls Played the game for 5 hours today, loving it so much. Never played the original but I preordered so I should have a code to download it. Love finding out the backstory of all the characters with the voice recordings
MichaelSnoxall 03.29.13	Nah, no way it beats the first Bioshock
Strider 03.29.13	yeah those voice recordings are some of the best parts of my game experience. I also love those videos that you can watch from time to time, as well as the fact that you never have cut-scenes in the game, you're always seeing everything from Booker's perspective.
DamnVanne 03.29.13	Just beat it. Hate the ending, but that might be because I don't understand it. Starting again.
DamnVanne 03.29.13	had a gotcha moment, now i understand
ViralOblivion 03.29.13	God this game is just so goddamn good and is the ending that crazy? Well shit.
DamnVanne 03.29.13	SPOLIER ALERT!!!!1! the shitty thing about the ending is that there is no more game left to play
Kris. 03.29.13	the ending makes perfect sense what
gwynbleidd 03.29.13	think he just means it cause he wants a new game plus or something. so excited for this shit gonna get it tomorrow
Kris. 03.29.13	na, he's legitimately confused by the ending, which is understandable because it's pretty out there but it makes perfect sense too. it's amazing really
MichaelSnoxall 03.29.13	WOAH HOLY FUCK THAT WAS PERFECT OMG WTF THAT WAS BETTER THAN I EXPECTED AND I EXPECTED A LOT OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE WOAH FUCK WOAH
Veldin 03.29.13	Lived. Live. Will Live. Died. Die. Will Die. Without time, English professors wouldn't have any reason to get out of bed in the morning.
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	WAY TO MISQUOTE, ASSHOLE.
Dev518 03.30.13	It's probably my game of the generation. I just beat it yesterday so I went to let it set in before I let it dethrone Uncharted 2.
ViralOblivion 03.30.13	I can't wait for the ending
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	HURRY UP AND FINISH IT. I'm playing 1999 mode now. Not gonna purchase anything from a Dollar Bill machine either.
DamnVanne 03.30.13	I thought about going that route. But this would be a lot harder if I wasn't using Dollar Bill to keep my RPG nice and full.
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	I only use the RPG at like one point in the game and that point has constant re-spawning ammo anyway. I didn't upgrade my vigors at all on my first playthrough, so I may spend the extra cash on vigors. Or I might be dying too much to have any extra csh.
DamnVanne 03.30.13	I made it as far as the Good Times Club. There is 0 cover, 0 ammo left and I am dead no more than 8 seconds after I am revived
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	I was fearing the part where you have to fight Comstock's dead wife that part was almost impossible on hard, I can't imagine it on 1999
DamnVanne 03.30.13	If there's some higher ground at that part, then me and my RPG might stand a chance.
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	it's technically three parts and she raises the dead soldiers endlessly until you kill her
andcas 03.30.13	playing samurai shodown. what the fuck you little kids know about that
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.13	If you know who Adam Sessler is, you might be a virgin.
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.13	The original was a 4.8/5, the second I never finished but I liked what I played (the first 8-10) hours. I saw my bro playing this and it looks more interesting than the second.
KILL 03.30.13	almost as good as the first, amazing game
apert 03.30.13	Hardest part is the part on comstocks ship fending off the vox. I'm on hard and just can't do it. Will try again soon but wasted an hour dieing there
Kris. 03.30.13	you really just gotta constantly fly around the sky-line with a carbine picking off people. that's what i did
Kris. 03.30.13	and glad you approve KILL
Iluvatar 03.30.13	only hard part in 1999 mode will be the final section, rescuing elizabeth/after. that last inescapable siren is gonna be murderrrr
Iluvatar 03.30.13	comstock is easy with good bronco usage, but so is most of the game i guess
Iluvatar 03.30.13	and yeah fending off vox becomes easy when you do all gear for skyline shooting. carbine is so fucking strong there ugh
Kris. 03.30.13	ugh dude siren on 1999 is gonna be the goddamn fucking satan bitch will die hundreds of times easily
ConcubinaryCode 03.30.13	"I was fearing the part where you have to fight Comstock's dead wife that part was almost impossible on hard, I can't imagine it on 1999" i ended up taking potshots from across the map with the sniper the first part and just spammed the mosquito on her ass the second time. she was ridiculously hard otherwise.
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	Just found out that once I run out of cash, I can't be revived. This is gonna make the game harder.
apert 03.30.13	holy shit still can't do the last bit on comstock's ship, i can't kill the fucking patriots quick enough and they tear apart the core i wanna see this awesome ending but section is ridiculous much harder than the siren battles
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	dude, just lay down shit loads of traps, target the gunships with songbird, when people jump off the ships, slow down on the skyhook and pick them off with a carbine or sniper if they get too close to the reactor, get down there with a shotgun or handcannon and some vigors and take them all out. When the patriots come, goes straight behind them and just fire straight at their backs. The patriots don't turn around to fight you, so it makes them easy to kill quickly
Kris. 03.30.13	nut up, man
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	Fighting Lady Comstock was by far the hardest part of the game. I played on hard and only failed the defending of Comstock's ship once. I also lost all my ammo and good weapons on lady comstock, then proceeded into the mansion without realising going in with one handcannon bullet was a bad decision. Do you know how hard that shit is when you have to fight all those faceless things off with nothing but a pistol with no upgrades I found in there?
apert 03.30.13	nah nothing in the game is even half as hard as the last bit, doesn't help that the guns i have are the machine gun and a shotty with no ammo so i have to use the RPG and whatever the vox have (repeater i think). im on hard as well
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	there's a sniper at the top of the shit, just get liz to open the tear.
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	ship*
DamnVanne 03.30.13	For 1999 modem did you guys get the gear that makes you run super fast whenever your shield is broken?
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	I haven't found any gear yet.
ConcubinaryCode 03.30.13	They're everywhere...
MichaelSnoxall 03.30.13	Not at the beginning of the game. I've only just got the first vigor.
Melons 03.30.13	Finally getting this tomorrow, I'm excited as fuuuuuuu
DamnVanne 03.31.13	I think it's a hat but w/e. I'm off like a prom dress whenever I hear that crackling sound.
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	What the fucking fuck just happened!?!?!?!?!?!!? THAT ENDING WHAT THE FUCK!!! I get it but I'm still confused a little
Kris. 03.31.13	i wanna talk about it with people dammit
cinaedus 03.31.13	lol [2]
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	Well I was gonna post a ending discussion here with SPOILER ALERT copied and pasted a thousand times to warn people, but no doubt they would have read and bitched about it anyways. And my god lakes, you're a 16 year old gaming pleb who hates on anything because you like the idea of being a gaming elitist. Grow the fuck up and for the love all that is good in this world, stop making such shitty music.
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	Hey lakes if you kill yourself now you might get a page in your yearbook you should think about that
cinaedus 03.31.13	lol
cinaedus 03.31.13	you're a dumbfuck snoxall, go fuck yourself with a spiked dildo
Iluvatar 03.31.13	yo lakes do you not like this because it isn't hard and there is no real death penality within the game?
Kris. 03.31.13	no real death penalties?? the deaths in this game are like the fuckn govt just suckin away my money wat r u talkin bout!
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	you actually get sent to the main menu and go back to your last save when you run out of money
Kris. 03.31.13	yeah that's what just happened to me. like 20 minutes into actual combat. i'm gonna haaaaaaaaaate this.
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	Is 1999 mode stupid hard?
ShrillYell 03.31.13	Hard was actually relatively easier than I expected, but I'm so down for 1999 when I find the time. I need an excuse for another round at absorbing this incredible story.
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	it's not ridiculously hard, it's just really hard. You don't get the destination arrow (not a big deal) and you take more damage. And you lose more cash when you die.
Iluvatar 03.31.13	it's not that hard. if you don't willy nilly upgrade (you honestly do not need to upgrade much besides carbine and one other weapon of choice as far as weapons, and then just upgrade possession fully) you'll have more than enough money to both cater to your playstyle and afford to die at critical junctures. I'm over halfway through the game and I haven't got sent back to the menu once, but of course I'm using broken tactics so
Iluvatar 03.31.13	(psssst guys, making it so enemies who die from crows become traps IS REALLY FUCKING POWERFUL)
Iluvatar 03.31.13	only part that will be difficult is entering the mansion. after the comstock fight i might just go scour for 30 minutes and restock all of my ammo for everything
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	I never used possession or crow traps...maybe I'll try that
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	Possession is fucking awesome I used that and devils kiss a lot and broncos buck and the carbine is fucking retarded ( I mean that in a good way)
Kris. 03.31.13	bucking bronco + undertow watch them fall to their deaths thousands of feet below it's so satisfying i'm a sick fuck don't even care!!
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	I couldn't help but go GET OVER HEREEEE eveyrtime I used undertow
Iluvatar 03.31.13	possession is the best thing in the game once you get the cost down. with 7 salt upgrades I think I could use it 8 times? If I had realized that earlier I would have never upgraded shield and just upgraded salts and spammed it. it makes waves of enemies literally nothing in like 10 seconds, with no damage taken. Super easy final battle mode
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	I only used undertow in the later areas when shit got tough and I wanted to save ammo so I just shot everyone over the edge. It's especially handy on Comstock's ship when they all come in from the sides it's like "lol bye" and shoot them off the ship. I just used bucking bronco and electricity most of the time and switched it up at certain times
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	damn I'm totally gonna have to do that
Kris. 03.31.13	i never really used possession first time around, but now that you've told me how to unlock ezmode in 1999 it's gonna be my go to
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	Yeah possession is awesome I enjoyed murder of crows + bucking bronco tears people up fully upgraded
Iluvatar 03.31.13	it also can take over anything in the game. albeit you'll need to fight the unique enemies without it since you can't damage enemies, but by themselves none of them are remotely challenging. just be good at abusing rails and you're fucking golden.
Kris. 03.31.13	dude but handymen stop me on rails all the time then take me to rape village
Iluvatar 03.31.13	handymen are super easy, crow stunlock them and heartshot them with literally anything. kris you obviously did not take full advantage of crows being the best thing ever
Kris. 03.31.13	i tried electro kewt on one and it was like LOL NOPE so i figured nothing could stun them
Iluvatar 03.31.13	nope they still get all ARGH CROOOOOOWS. broken vigor is broken
Kris. 03.31.13	that's bs. i figured crows and possession were just gimmicky vigors with no real use looks like the jokes on me!!
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	yeah I like never used crows or possession. For handymen I just laid down electro traps and they fucked them up. Not to mention like half the handymen I fought found ways to kills themselves whilst I was running away. seriously like two of them just dropped dead midfight
Iluvatar 03.31.13	lol crows is probably the most useful vigor in the game. it's not only on par or better than most vigors, once you get the upgrades it makes it THE BEST FUCKING VIGOR for those multiple wave moments.
Iluvatar 03.31.13	of course this is discounting how broken possession is
Iluvatar 03.31.13	i mean come on fucking enemies kill themselves upon it wearing off after having killed someone else and drawing fire FUCKING GOD
Iluvatar 03.31.13	I suppose it's not as broken as in 2 where you just took the sentry gun plasmid so you could get like 2 or 3, then took the possession plasmid to take control of a splicer and become untouchable.
Kris. 03.31.13	who says its broken maybe it was made that way!!
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	I got annoyed at possession because taking over turrets didn't destroy the turrets upon it wearing off, but then again they're so easy to destroy it doesn't matter
ViralOblivion 03.31.13	Damn started the game again lots of foreshadowing like 2 minutes in
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	yeah there are lots of hints in the beginning of the game
Iluvatar 03.31.13	really wish 1999 mode would reflect it being a second play through to some extent
Iluvatar 03.31.13	really wish 1999 mode would reflect it being a second play through to some extent
MichaelSnoxall 03.31.13	it does for me. It saves the amount of voxophones and sight-seeing you've done
Iluvatar 03.31.13	i meant plotwise
TheNexus100 03.31.13	its okay
DamnVanne 03.31.13	anybody beat Lady Comstock in the cemetary yet? in 1999 mode specifically...
Iluvatar 03.31.13	yeah, just locked up people with bucking bronco and then pumped a full array of carbine into her
WhiteNoise 03.31.13	I just finished it...holy shit might be my favourite game along with Uncharted 2!
Thane 03.31.13	finished the game today, holy shit. wish it was longer, but probably in my top 3 games. need to play it again
andcas 03.31.13	I wanna new metal gear solid game
Chrisjon89 03.31.13	i saw someone on Facebook saying it ruled but the praise was so full on it seemed sarcastic. hopefully my brother gets it cos i'm not much of a gamer and my PS3 is dying anyway
apert 03.31.13	finally finished. ending is really something and definitely lived up to expectations after everyone else was saying it was incredible, started a 1999 playthrough the amount of foreshadowing at the beginning is ridiculous
DamnVanne 04.01.13	1999 mode is hella stupid fuck everything go 2 hell
ConcubinaryCode 04.01.13	I thought 1999 was going to be like a whole other game. It's basically hard with limited revives and no waypoint marker.
apert 04.01.13	started the original bioshock, didn't realise that this games is half surival horror. the bit where you pick up the shotgun and the room goes black and the foggy room with the dentist made me jump like crazy
ViralOblivion 04.02.13	I actually just beat the original bioshock tonight after beating infinite rescued all the little sisters too
DamnVanne 04.02.13	I have to backtrack part of the way on 199 mode. The character build I've been working with will not allow me to beat Lady Comstock. Gotta go back and upgrade the charge + have a carbine
Scoot 04.02.13	fucking awesome game/ending hoping for more dlc stuff
Gyromania 04.02.13	awesome game, but 1999 mode is pretty much unplayable
olivianigma 04.02.13	I'm too broke to get this game myself yet but from what I've seen others play, it's fucking awesome
ConcubinaryCode 04.02.13	I was having so much trouble in 1989 mode until I found gear that makes you invincible on skylines. Upgrading the shield helps too. Not looking forward to that lady comstock fight though.
Thane 04.02.13	wonder how DLC will work. there's a season pass, so there are going to be a couple
Iluvatar 04.02.13	beat 1999 mode without ever using charge, and never even went to title sequence. it's just about using your vigors correctly and effectively on a consistent basis. ooh and also head shotting.
Kris. 04.02.13	gonna pick it back up and try again tonight i think. see how it goes.
ViralOblivion 04.02.13	I think I'm just gonna play hard and work up to 1999 mode shit seems ridic
Iluvatar 04.02.13	play safe and avoid deaths. take advantage of little alleys
KILL 04.02.13	hows the game on consoles? got downsampling working on pc and the graphics are ridiculous
ViralOblivion 04.02.13	It looks good not nearly as good on pc textures are not as good but still pretty nice
cinaedus 04.03.13	http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=8887
DamnVanne 04.03.13	Finally beat the Lady in the cemetery. I went back about a chapter and a half so I could buy the upgrades for the Charge vigor. The fight was over in less than 15 seconds.
DamnVanne 04.03.13	back 2 murderin Columbians with mu rokit lancher
apert 04.03.13	stop trying so hard lakes
cinaedus 04.03.13	i didn't write that lol it's just a troll piece
apert 04.03.13	yeah i know you didn't right it, but no need to interrupt this circle jerk with your faux-elitist views
cinaedus 04.03.13	heh
apert 04.03.13	you're as bad as proggy when it comes to video games
andcas 04.03.13	sweet game
cinaedus 04.03.13	yeah proggy and i are on a similar level of eliteness he's like the only person on this site you can hold an intelligent conversation with about 90s rpgs
apert 04.03.13	wow you guys think your so elite cause you played some infinity engine games, you probably think icewind dale is a good game as well don't you?
cinaedus 04.03.13	lol what's wrong with infinity engine games? and no, i prefer fallout and earlier DOS rpgs.
Kris. 04.03.13	good thing its still the 90s and not 2013 right!!!
apert 04.03.13	whenever people talk about 90s RPGs and think they're super elite, they have just played infinity engine games, baldur's gate and planescape are good the rest is just copies of those 2 games. fallout and its sequel are great games, (as are 3 and NV as well) but you can't call yourself elite for playing those games. have you even played chrono's trigger?
apert 04.03.13	exactly Kris pisses me off that they kids who think they know everything about games think everything made after 2003 is shit
cinaedus 04.03.13	chrono's trigger? lmao. it's chrono trigger. and i don't care for JRPG's but i know it's supposed to be awesome so i'll play it sometime. and fallout 3 is shit. new vegas is good but it would have been a much better game if it were in the same engine as fallout/fallout 2. and when i say i play 90s rpgs i mean that. some of my favorites are actually from the early 90s. might and magic 3, betrayal at krondor, daggerfall, ultima 7. which you probably haven't even played because you're busy with your popamole MAJESTIC rpgs like oblivion and fallout 3.
cinaedus 04.03.13	when it comes to western rpgs, everything made after 2003 is shit is a rule of thumb, with a few exceptions. i really dug the witcher games. and there are a lot of awesome RPGs coming out this year like wasteland 2 and might and magic 10.
cinaedus 04.03.13	i also don't brag about my eliteness or anything like that like you guys seem to think i do. i was just trolling earlier. you can leave me to play my archaic 90s games in peace, thank you very much.
andcas 04.03.13	90s fighting and arcade games > now
apert 04.03.13	holy shit you're such a faggot, you think that any rpg after 2000 is elder scrolls or fallout. have you even played souls games, witcher games, bastion, torchlight 1 & 2 all relatively recent RPGs that are better than might and magic 3 (which is a mediocre game at best) and then you call yourself some sort of RPG expert and then dismiss half the genre, grow up you and play some games made after you were born, nobody cares about some sort or RPG cred you think you have on RPG codex
cinaedus 04.03.13	"might and magic 3 (which is a mediocre game at best)" lol fuck off "ave you even played souls games, witcher games, bastion, torchlight 1 & 2 all relatively recent RPGs" i already said i played and enjoyed both witcher games. learn to read retard. but those are all action rpgs and no substitute for tactical, deep classical RPGs, an important offshoot of the genre that has largely died off in the past 10 years.
andcas 04.03.13	lakes was born in like 97 bro. it's not his fault he doesn't know good games.
cinaedus 04.03.13	also, reported for using the F word, expand your vocabulary dumbass.
cinaedus 04.03.13	because western rpgs have gone to shit in the past 10 years, AAA studios make games for the lowest common denominator. skyrim wouldn't have sold 10 million copies if it was a thinking man's game. use your brain moron and stop slurping up all the shit EA, bethesda, and activision throw at you.
apert 04.03.13	do you really want developers to release the same sort of games for 20 years, as much as people complain about devs like bioware selling out, people would complain just as much if baldur's gate 7 still on infinity was coming out next week
apert 04.03.13	lol your 16, wow makes your elitism even more pathetic, its not like you even grew up with these games
cinaedus 04.03.13	yes, because not releasing shitty games mean developers have to stagnate and release the same stuff over and over again. totally the same thing. and 16 year olds clearly can't have reasoned discussions about games, you must be better than me because you grew up with those games and you KNOW the new shit's better! you're a complete retard, thanks for this stimulating discussion.
apert 04.03.13	when did i ever say they were better, morrowind is my favourite RPG of all time and that's not a modern game (but it came out in 2002 so i guess you can't play it) what pisses me off is kids like you who are so closed minded that they won't even give modern games a chance because of shit suspossedly elite people have told you. I'm not gonna lie to you and say that there are more good modern RPGs because there aren't, but there are a good amount of quality RPGs that you (and your elitist friends) are missing out on because of sheer stubborness, have you even played half the modern games you hate on??
cinaedus 04.03.13	morrowind is one of my favorite games too, stop making assumptions dude.
apert 04.03.13	but its not a 90s games??? you breaking your own rules now?
cinaedus 04.03.13	lol, when i said i liked 90s games that doesn't mean i'm not open to liking 2000s games. just that the 90s were a better decade overall for the kind of RPGs i like.
andcas 04.03.13	I'm siding with lakes on being a retro stubborn person when it comes to it
apert 04.03.13	expand your horizons, do you play any games that aren't rpgs anyway?
apert 04.03.13	fuck you aswell andcas
cinaedus 04.03.13	yeah, i like platformers like basically every mario game. and mario kart. anyway, what with kickstarter there are a lot of old school style rpgs coming out in the next few years and i'm not dismissing those just because they're new. i'm really excited for wasteland 2, might and magic 10, divinity: original sin, chaos chronicles, and a ton of other games
andcas 04.03.13	it's just a fact that the 90s were a better generation for cool games
apert 04.03.13	yeah wasteland 2 should be good
cinaedus 04.03.13	"it's just a fact that the 90s were a better generation for cool games" apert he's actually right on a lot of levels. the industry was simply a lot different back then. games didn't have to be made and marketed for anyone and everyone like COD and skyrim are, there were still a lot of niche titles and even the popular titles were fairly varied
cinaedus 04.03.13	that's why the kickstarter thing excites me, certain genres of games have been left in the dust because they only ever appealed to a niche audience and now they're coming back
andcas 04.03.13	things weren't as butchered. I fucking hate the unnecessary politics that goes into making games and how companies greed ruins what would have been good releases. outsourcing is a joke and so is the loops you have to jump through in rip-off DLC content. they used to make quality games that set out to be only that and developers used to respect instead of fuck with the consumer.
apert 04.03.13	i'm not arguing that there was alot more originality in games in the 90s, obviously stuff COD and AC coming out every year with little changes is bad for creativity in the industry, but there are plenty of indie devs releasing cool games and kickstarter is helping that as well
cinaedus 04.03.13	ofc apert, but a few years ago stuff like the unity engine and kickstarter hadn't caught on so there was a bit of a dry period for a lot of games. there are a lot more indie games being made now than even just a few years ago because the resources are much more readily available now.
apert 04.03.13	the most annoying thing is how some IPs futures and bonuses for Devs is tied to metacritic scores, and also publishers have ridiculous expectations. Square Enix are calling Tomb Raider a failure in terms of sales, despite the fact it had the biggest opening weekend of the year so far
andcas 04.03.13	the biggest problem I see in today's industry is what happened with colonial marines. I mainly just stick to buying old school greats through the ps3 store but I'm not looking forward to ps4 coming out for obvious setbacks.
cinaedus 04.03.13	yeah, afair i think dead state 4 isn't going to be made because dead state 3 needed to sell like 3 million copies or something. ridiculous.
apert 04.03.13	not all AAA games are bad as well, last year there was Dishonored, Far Cry 3 and Borderlands 2 which were all sweet games
apert 04.03.13	you mean dead space i think, and EA are saying that is just rumour, but its the sort of thing they would do
cinaedus 04.03.13	the main reason i don't buy new games is because of the price point versus play time ratios. a lot of new games will only last you like 10-15 hours and cost $60, but on GOG for example i bought the first and second witcher games for $25 and that lasted me like 40 hours.
andcas 04.03.13	well I mean there are exceptions but think about how many great franchises have been ruined. resident evil, silent hill, devil may cry, mortal kombat, ect. capcom is one place where they have been just really shitting on their fanbase.
cinaedus 04.03.13	oh yeah, of course ea is brushing it off. you've heard of the shitstorm over the new simcity? they even posted a video on youtube celebrating LGBT representation in their games just to deflect the rage and get people supporting them. totally backfired, really bad and transparent PR attempt
apert 04.03.13	yeah capcom are one of the worst companies at the moment, why the fuck won't they put monster hunter on a decent console instead of the shitty Wii, it makes no sense simcity is a mess, EA are probably worse than activision at the moment
andcas 04.03.13	what they've done to resident evil is unforgivable. I also despise quicktime events with a burning passion so I hope that trend dies out soon.
cinaedus 04.03.13	quicktime events are horrid. so glad you could disable them in the witcher 2.
apert 04.03.13	yeah resident evil 6 isn't even survival horror, almost as bad as the films
andcas 04.03.13	a lot of people gave RE5 shit but it's a classic game compared to RE6
DamnVanne 04.04.13	RE6 is like the Michael Bay of vidya games
DamnVanne 04.05.13	Beat Lady Comstock down. I tell you, she isn't even a little bit difficult if you have upgraded Charge and RPG or Volley Gun.
apert 04.05.13	1999 mode?
DamnVanne 04.05.13	Yessir. I'm at the final battle now, and it is even harder than Lady Comstock was before I went back and upgraded the Charge. I think there are 4 zeppelins yopu have to destroy, and I haven't even destroyed one with more than 1/3 flagship health left.
apert 04.05.13	Final battle was a nightmare for me on hard can't imagine how hard it will be on 1999 mode