Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | yarp |
ncguitar
06.02.13 | 2 > 1 > the rest which isn't even worth knowing about |
ncguitar
06.02.13 | by 2 I mean Gen 1 |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | that works too |
Suddy911
06.02.13 | about right although i think 3 should be a bit lower |
Masochist
06.02.13 | Talking games or actual Pokemon? In terms of games:
Gen 2 > 5 > 4 > 1 >>>>>>> 3
In terms of Pokemon:
Gen 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> 3 > 4 > 5 |
toxin.
06.02.13 | good rating good rating yea |
toxin.
06.02.13 | if we're talking about in terms of games as an objective not-5 yr old it prob goes gen 2 remakes > gen 5 pt 2 > gen 1 remakes > gen 3 > gen 5 > gen 2 > gen1
haven't played gen 4 tho |
tommygun
06.02.13 | 2 = 1 > the others yeah |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Good ranking id swap one and two that's it |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | New pokemon so far look pretty sweet especially the panda |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | yeah i like most of them
except the electric lizard thing |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | Gen 1 is arguably the worst one tbh.
Gen 4 is arguably the best one tbh.
Gen 2 is also overrated. The two region thing is great and all but it was done so rather poorly. Sure the Pokemon where aesthetically best in those two regions but regardless.
Gen 3 and 5 are fairly equal and both very good. They're the middle games. 3 is generally underrated. |
Synchestra
06.02.13 | 3> all. Though 1 was awesome because of how broken it could be (X accuracy + 1 hit ko = nobody's fucking with you) |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | i hate diamond and pearl so much |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | Honestly, the only thing lastingly cool about gen 1 is that Tauros is hilariously overpowered. |
grish
06.02.13 | gen 2 1 5 4 3 |
toxin.
06.02.13 | gen 4 is gay and i haven't evne played it actually, a description of its plot made me want to off myself
gen 2 remakes (tech. gen 4) are better than life itself tho so there's that |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | gen 3 is the last one that i find attractive, honestly
i hate the super big-headed art of gen 4 and on |
toxin.
06.02.13 | it's gotten more cartoony yeah |
tommygun
06.02.13 | I'M ON THE ROAD TO VIRIDIAN CITY |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | the pokemon designs look great but those character sprites
urgh |
toxin.
06.02.13 | compare pidgey to pidove
idk what happened |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | I hate diamond and pearl too, because they were slow as fuck. But yeah, gen II remakes were pretty brilliant.
Gen 4 has by far the best improvements of the game in terms of attacks/moves, held items, physical/special split (thank fucking god), and abilities. You know, shit that actually matters instead of "oh, these pokemon look so stupid," which is funny because they are plenty of stupid/horrible designs in the first 2 generations anyways (muk, bellsprout, electrode, diglet's fine, but dugtrio? lol).
and even I hated a lot of new pokemon, that's why I just collected pokemon from the first 3 gens and used them with all the benefits of it being a gen 4 game. and besides, gen 4 has garchomp.
gen 1 has so many fucking bugs and so many moves that never fucking worked correctly, it's like final fantasy 1 all over again. psychic was too fucking strong, most of the non-mainstream pokemon types were stupidly underpowered, ghost types (haunter and gengar a.k.a. the best ghost types to ever exist) got severely bitch slapped with the bugs and laziness of the game. |
tommygun
06.02.13 | gettin nostalgic gonna play red or blue |
toxin.
06.02.13 | basically what cyg said yea
bellsprout is def one of the worst designs ever, esp. compared to its counterpart oddish whose design was simplistic but awesome(ly adorable) |
tommygun
06.02.13 | dugtrio rocks he's like three dicks |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | "compare pidgey to pidove idk what happened"
admittedly, pidove is lolbad and I'd never use him. but that doesn't matter because starly and staraptor raped the shit outta pidgey/pidgeot (and pretty much all non-legendary bird types out there). a basic bird type with intimidate AND close combat? count me in. |
bengrieve
06.02.13 | If by gen 4, you mean D/P/P then I agree it wasn't their best effort but I loved HG/SS. |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | "bellsprout is def one of the worst designs ever, esp. compared to its counterpart oddish whose design was simplistic but awesome(ly adorable)" [2]
hard |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | "you must be a pretty hardcore aspie to care about this shit, the overall experience of diamond and pearl was mediocre"
lakes, aren't you the one who's supposed to be stingy about their rpgs? smh.
and you don't have to be hardcore to care about that stuff.
i.e. "my absol has 120 base attack! oh wait, dark type moves like bite and thief are all special attacks... my absol has 60 base sp.atk..." |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | i agree that the first few gens are far from balanced, but i couldn't really care less about all of that. i occasionally play gens 1 and 2 with my friends, but other than that i don't play pokemon competitively so none of that matters to me at all |
toxin.
06.02.13 | are you kidding the special/physical split was the best thing ever, how gay was it that gyarados couldn't use a water type move with its beastly attack stat?
hint: very |
toxin.
06.02.13 | lmao the only reason gen 1 was fun to play was because when you were 5 when you played it. getting swept by a fucking arbok using wrap over and over isn't fun period sorry it's shit game design |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | i'm stingy about rpgs too but that's because i only like maybe 20 games |
toxin.
06.02.13 | lakes go play ff13-2 if all you want is a mediocre platform to battle monsters you catch, gen 1 is inarguably terrible from any standpoint beyond "it was the best thing ever when i was 5" which is indeed a fact |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | "gen 1 is inarguably terrible from any standpoint beyond "it was the best thing ever when i was 5" which is indeed a fact"
it's still the best thing ever tho
playing gen 2 now actually
gold version yeaaah |
bengrieve
06.02.13 | Play HG/SS or BW and then play R/B/Y. You can't honestly say that Gen 1 games were good. They totally didn't age well. |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | used mah oddish to rip shit up *puts on shades*
I play with people in school all the time, and I always beat the crap outta them, even though some use hacked pokemon and action replay shiz. |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | "Play HG/SS or BW and then play R/B/Y. You can't honestly say that Gen 1 games were good."
i don't like hgss. hate gen 4/5's art style. new gens don't have the same charm as the first two |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | that said, gen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gen 1.
special atk/def split was interesting. addition of two new types to help balance the types were interesting too, though they screwed poison up since then. it was generally much more enjoyable than gen 1 imo. |
toxin.
06.02.13 | indeed gen 1 is the best thing ever but it's also inarguably terrible, i call it schodinger's video game in my strongest attempt yet to butcher commercialized scientific concepts
but yea if pokemon were prog rby would be dream theater or sth, only entry-level plebs like it beyond that nostalgia of "wow got me into the genre [series]/ loved this band as a teen[kid]" |
GreyShadow
06.02.13 | gen 1 was fine but is probably the worst
gen 2 was where i started and its just perfectly nostalgic. having 2 regions really made the game feel special, especially when back then, johto itself felt like it was pretty long.
gen 3 is also very nostalgic for me. possibly the best set of music (if not its gen 2). besides, this was the first...and only region where i was actually discovering new pokemon rather than already knowing them due to television (first 2 gens) or finding them all before the games release (4 and 5)
gen 4 criminally underrated. the ds made everything feel so connected among friends when playing and the game was more challenging than those preceeding.
gen 5 b/w had the right idea but lacked substance. b/w 2 however improved literally everything. you can have your favorite based on personal preference but there is no doubt b/w 2 is the most accomplished of the bunch |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | "only entry-level plebs like it beyond that nostalgia of "wow got me into the genre [series]/ loved this band as a teen[kid]""
color me an entry level pleb then because not only did it not get me into rpgs, but i still love gen 1 and 2 above most things, even at 22 |
bengrieve
06.02.13 | I like Poison types.... Well, mostly just Venusaur and Crobat.
I don't know why so many people like R/S/E so much. |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | venusaur is the best pokemon evah |
toxin.
06.02.13 | well i mean if you're aware of its faults and like it in spite of that, i guess that's not so pleb. most gen 1ers are entry level plebs tho |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | "itt toxin calling other people plebs lol"
it's okay, though, because he's mostly calling you one. ;) |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | sure gen 1 is the most easily exploitable thing ever, and if you're playing against friends there are only like 15 usable pokemon, but whatevs it still is the most fun thing ever |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | "for me a game is as good as the sum of the overall experience. i can ignore bugs or shitty mechanics if the whole game gives me a good and memorable time"
basically this
why lunar and lunar 2 are my favorite games of all time despite there undoubtably being better games out there |
toxin.
06.02.13 | "itt toxin calling other people plebs"
lol don't give me that shit, i might not try so hard to consume obscure media but if you think that actually invalidates my reasoning you're an idiot.
anyways you still haven't said one thing good about gen 1 besides that it's memorable (circular logic much?) but ok w/e floats your boat |
toxin.
06.02.13 | plz note my actual rating goes 2 > 1 >rest too, but if i remove the fact that i was 4 when i first played red and like 7 or sth when i played gold then yeah they fall hard on my list |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | lakes, then that's what people should be saying. rather than saying "oh yeah, it's the best of the series, etc." they should be saying "it's the most fun and memorable" because I wouldn't be so quick to argue against such a proposal. |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Starraptor is the best normal flying bird such a fucking beast
And Scrafty is the best pokemon in Gen 5 such a fucking tank |
toxin.
06.02.13 | i would be quick to argue against it b.c i still haven't heard one reason why, beyond that i was 5 when i played it, or that it was my first pokemon game. both of which are legit reasons but somewhat removed from the games themselves |
Masochist
06.02.13 | "And Scrafty is the best pokemon in Gen 5 such a fucking tank"
Excadrill wins that title for me. |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | I need to dig up my firered
On another note these teen wolf ads are fucking annoying |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | agreed, rby and gsc are just great experiences, even now |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Nah its all about scrafty
Moxie+ hi jump kick is the best thing ever he can take out the entire elite four on his own |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | yeah, mobile sputnik is the bane of my existence. |
bengrieve
06.02.13 | Scrafty is pretty OP. |
toxin.
06.02.13 | "it's more fun as an experience to me than r/s or d/p, simple as that."
ok fair enough but if this is your reasoning i'm not sure why you need to make comments like "no, gen 3 is pleasant but nothing more" if you can't actually back up your own opinion, if at the core your own reasoning is purely subjective "it's more fun as an experience" |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | lol inanimate objects don't even have a concept of what retardation is. |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | I like the story of gen 3 with the weather I forget what all the themes have been
Gen 1- exploration
Gen 2- myths and legends
Gen 3- weather
Gen 4- space and time
Gen 5- freedom
Gen 6- I'm pretty sure will be DNA |
tommygun
06.02.13 | pokemon snap > |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | I'm so stoked to be able to ride a pokemon in x and y |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | um, lakie, gen 4's first gym was rock as well. the only reason gen 2's wasn't rock type is because brock would be the 9th gym instead of the 1st.
and gen 3 had a fighting gym type as the 2nd gym. dat shit cray. |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Pokemon snap 2 for wii u
Fucking do it |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | I like how black 2 had a water gym last felt really fresh |
UnnamedOcean
06.02.13 | Aw man I thought this was a list of actual pokemon ranked |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | I made one of those lists lol |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | haha i wish i had the patience to rank every single pokemon |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | well I made a top 25 so not the same thing but fuck that list was hard to make
Why can't gliscor learn fly? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | "Aw man I thought this was a list of actual pokemon ranked"
omg, that'd be waaaaaaaayyyyy too hard. so many useless pokemon, so many arbitrary placings. "rattata is number 571 out of 651 because it's purple and annoying. but it's just above similar poke bidoof who is at 576 out of 651 because lol, it's fucking bidoof." |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | yeah i'd definitely just rank their designs |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=563760376979713&set=a.398625533493199.86956.371982886157464&type=1&theater |
Cygnatti
06.02.13 | cuchan looks sweet as fuck. |
bengrieve
06.02.13 | I attempted to rank all the Pokemon and only got to about 50. |
toxin.
06.02.13 | "gen 3 feels like a total rehash having a forest and then the first gym being a rock type, same thing with the electric gym being 3rd, etc."
lol ok fair enough, they feel totally minor compared to actual gameplay mechanics but hey to each his own, the freedom to move one is actually a really good point |
KenboSlice
06.02.13 | For me it's 2,1,5,4,3. Three to me had shitty Pokemon and shitty starters. |
DamnVanne
06.02.13 | Every single one of the Pokemon RPG's fails miserably to live up to the potential that the franchise has. Call me when an American, Canadian or European company gets the rights to make a Pokemon game. |
toxin.
06.02.13 | it's a children's game unfortunately so it'll never capture the potential that the concept has. i'm just happy it still lives up to my childhood and is still a solid game
if you want to see the franchise's potential better utilized, read the manga. i heard it's pretty good. |
tommygun
06.02.13 | "if you want to see the franchise's potential better utilised, play pokemon snap"
fixed! |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Handheld gaming would not be what it is without pokemon and they are solid games that only get better and better |
toxin.
06.02.13 | hahaha tommy ily |
tommygun
06.02.13 | ILY MORE |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | "if you want to see the franchise's potential better utilized, read the manga. i heard it's pretty good."
Wait, you heard it's pretty good? So you're claiming it's a better utilised potential based solely from what you've heard? |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | subtle stop being a douchenozzle |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | hey its not my fault that doesn't make any sense.
"yeah the lotr books are way better than the films. ive heard they're good books." |
toxin.
06.02.13 | "Wait, you heard it's pretty good? So you're claiming it's a better utilised potential based solely from what you've heard?"
i've read enough random pages of it to know that it's more realistic. there's one scene in the safari zone where a kangaskhan is walking about and someone warns that you can get killed by one so be careful. or another one where a charmeleon(?) literally slices an arbok in half.
so yes based on that i'd say it utilizes the potential better, because clearly it's not afraid of being nitty and gritty with this concept.
by the way, if literally everyone who's ever read the lotr books and watched the lotr movies says the books are better, then someone who hasn't read the books could realistically say "yeah the books are better from what i've heard" so there's that |
Feather
06.02.13 | 2 > 1 > 3 > 5 > 4 |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | All he was doing was telling him to check out the manga
You're taking it too seriously
Stop being a fucking douche |
Vakarian12
06.02.13 | I miss my Blue and Silver version =( |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | yeah no in that context saying "from what I've heard the books are better" then it's fine, but saying "the books are way better! i've only heard that tho, but i defs know they're waaaay better"
which is just how i read your comment because it seemed like you hadn't read the manga, and that you'd only simply heard that it was utilised better. but if you've actually read it and stuff then whatevs maybe i read wrong |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | woah dude viral calm down. did somebody shit in your pie? |
Feather
06.02.13 | Its weird that you made this list! I just played through red, crystal and now im onto emerald version this last week. I have beat these games a million times by now but they are always fun. Using an emulator you can beat a game in a day if you have nothing to do. |
toxin.
06.02.13 | "but i defs know they're waaaay better"
that's your own subtext you added to my comment, i implied nothing about my statement being certain or verified |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | yeah i know that's just how i read it. we had a misunderstanding. at least you're not acting like a weirdly angry viraloblivion |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | All I pointed out was you were being a dick about it
I'm stoned as fuck I can't be angry |
KenboSlice
06.02.13 | @Feather what emulator do you use |
SubtleBody
06.02.13 | dude viral calm down |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | Why can't x and y be here now |
TRMshadow
06.02.13 | 35214 (gens, not no. on list) for me. |
ViralOblivion
06.02.13 | That's a weird ass ranking you got there but alright haha at least 4 is 4 |
Crymsonblaze
06.02.13 | "Call me when an American, Canadian or European company gets the rights to make a Pokemon game."
lol |