Jethro42: Progland Semi-Finals

Jethro42 05.06.22	Let's ending the votes Thursday the 12th.
e210013 05.06.22	Four strong candidates. I think this will be a funny journey too.
Jethro42 05.06.22	That's the aim; having fun!
bgillesp 05.06.22	1 and 3 for me! I definitely liked Circus, don’t get me wrong, but I wish I liked it as much as y’all. For me it was very simple. Well done but not exciting for me
MrSirLordGentleman 05.06.22	Circus and Pekka Pohjola for me
porcupinetheater 05.06.22	Circus and Pekka
Divaman 05.07.22	My vote is 1 and 3.
SharkTooth 05.07.22	out of the first 2 it's 1 the latter 2 is a tougher one imo
Zig 05.07.22	have to go with Circus and Pekka Pohjola
Mythodea 05.07.22	Ι admit I remember only vaguely the SBB's songs, so I'll have to revisit it. Currently I am between Circus and Il Giardino Onirico
Friday13th 05.07.22	Voting Circus and Pekka
Sabrutin 05.07.22	mmm I think I'll have to stick to Pekka. As for the first pairing... I'm not completely sure, even though I didn't vote for Circus last week. I don't know if it's an inner bias against modern prog but I'll have to think a bit more
zakalwe 05.07.22	Circus and Pekka for me as well.
kalkwiese 05.07.22	Il Giardino Onirico and SBB for me I feel like there are 2 kinds of prog competing against each other here. I like both, but I know which side I am on here tbh
Jethro42 05.07.22	If I could, I would choose other matchups, but at this point, it's too late.
SharkTooth 05.07.22	you could do a loser's bracket, to do mashups for 3rd and 4th places
SharkTooth 05.07.22	Whoa I just read these comments, and people's votes have been for 1 and 3, or 2 and 4. Nobody has voted Circus and SBB together or Il Giardino Onirico and Pekka together I wonder why that is
Jethro42 05.07.22	I feel everything could happen the way it is, though.
Jethro42 05.07.22	It's a proof my matchups are misplaced imo.
Jethro42 05.07.22	I have to keep it that way though, because some participants vanish after they have voted.
kalkwiese 05.07.22	Yea Shark, that's what I meant. 1 and 3 is the structurally loose kind of prog and 2 and 4 is more song focused, I guess. It's two different philosophies of prog
Jethro42 05.07.22	Yes, I also thought that it was a matter of taste, but I haven't pronounced it.
Jethro42 05.07.22	That's funny because my ideal matchups would have been Il Gardiano Onirico vs Pekka, and Circus vs SBB.
Divaman 05.07.22	It's fine as is.
Jethro42 05.07.22	Word of wisdom!
SharkTooth 05.07.22	yea I don't see any reason to blame yourself, it's just a quirky thing that happened, and nobody's upset about it
Jethro42 05.07.22	I can live with it now. Thanks Shark. That's funny, how the votes are linear, though!
porcupinetheater 05.07.22	“1 and 3 is the structurally loose kind of prog and 2 and 4 is more song focused” Tbh not sure I agree with you that Circus is more song-focused, album strikes me as the structurally loosest one left in the tourney
kalkwiese 05.07.22	Mmh, true. There is something that distinguishes 1 and 3 from 2 and 4, but I am not able to put it into words, it seems
SharkTooth 05.07.22	@porcupine, then what do you think is the distinction over 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4, or at least why do you prefer the latter 2? 3 and 4 are pretty neck and neck for me, so I'm really interested in seeing what distinguishes the pairs
Divaman 05.07.22	I'm just voting for the two I rated higher.
SharkTooth 05.07.22	problem: you rated SBB and Pekka the same
Jethro42 05.07.22	About 1 and 3, and 2 and 4; It's surely a question of style and taste. The coming up results will perhaps disprove what we have seen so far. Personally, I'm not able to choose between SBB and Pekka. Both rule.
porcupinetheater 05.07.22	Yeah, I don’t think there’s a singular thread that links 1 + 3 and 2 + 4, just a weird coincidence the way the votes have fallen so far. maybe 1 + 3 have more of a consciously dark presence, whereas the mood of Circus and Pekka is more abstract and difficult to clarify?
Jethro42 05.07.22	Circus and Pekka have nothing in common. Same for Giardino and SBB. Total mystery and/or coincidence. A weird one yes.
Jethro42 05.07.22	To be continued...
Donchivo 05.07.22	I go with sbb and Circus
Jethro42 05.07.22	Donchivo breaks the cycle!
Jethro42 05.07.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 5= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro 2- Circus; 6= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo 3- SBB: 5= bgillesp, Diva, kalk, Donchivo, Jethro 4- Pekka Pohjola; 6= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak
TheIntruder 05.07.22	I break the cycle too, Circus and SBB.
Jethro42 05.07.22	Albums no longer need statistics now. 1- Il Giardino Onirico; 5= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro 2- Circus; 7= SirLord. porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder 3- SBB; 6= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder 4- Pekka Pohjola; 6= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak
SharkTooth 05.08.22	U missed my vote for Il Giardino Onrico and Sabrutin's vote for Pekka
Jethro42 05.08.22	I was waiting to get complete pairings, but I haven't waited finally.
bgillesp 05.08.22	I don’t mean to be rude towards circus, but could someone explain to me what y’all find so special about it. I feel the need to give it another chance with so much love for it
SharkTooth 05.08.22	Music is hard to describe so I'll have to relisten before I can tell ya
porcupinetheater 05.08.22	It’s the soundz, mostly, but sometimes also the vibez
Jethro42 05.08.22	Lots of folks join the bandwagon. I won't pronounce myself since it's my opponent.
SharkTooth 05.08.22	It's a combination of flutes, strong melodies, and energy. Instrumentation is really lively on Circus, which really is what carries this record Tho not enough to beat Apofenia
Jethro42 05.08.22	Apofenia is deep, emotional symphonic prog, and is centered around rich melodies and interplay, and built around a good alternance of laid back and heavy parts, with dark/romantic ambiences.
Jethro42 05.08.22	It's a little late to sell my salad.
Donchivo 05.09.22	Mmmmm, one question, in the llatest results, it looked like you are pitting all 4 against each other. But when voting I understood that i have to vote between 1 and 2 and between 3 and 4 seperately?
e210013 05.09.22	I'm going to break the cycle too. No one voted in 1 and 4. So, I vote in Il Giardino Onirico and Pekka Pohjola.
kalkwiese 05.09.22	@Dovincho: Yes, that's what it was about. I'm sure at least
e210013 05.09.22	Yes, don. As Jethro explained in the rules of this semi-final, 1 is against 2 and 3 is against 4. So, we must choose between 1 or 2 and 3 or 4.
Donchivo 05.09.22	Ohhh can't wait! when will the next tournament start? I have two more albums I feel I have to make my knights, especially as they have 0 and 1 votes apart from myself...
e210013 05.09.22	In the next year. Probably in the same months of this year and in the same molds. But, Jethro decides. So, you're going to have many time to prepare your next knight. Lol. Meanwhile, we are going to have the final between the 2 albums that are going to survive of the semi-final.
wham49 05.09.22	2, 1, 3, 4
kalkwiese 05.09.22	Wham, you need to chose between 1 and 2 as well as between 3 and 4
Jethro42 05.09.22	@e21, you break the curse too. It seems my knight is in trouble.
Divaman 05.09.22	Well I DID vote for it, Jethro.
Jethro42 05.09.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 6= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013 2- Circus; 7= SirLord. porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder 3- SBB; 6= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder 4- Pekka Pohjola; 7= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013
e210013 05.09.22	"It seems my knight is in trouble." We'll see it my friend. What count is the final result.
Jethro42 05.09.22	Yes, thank you Diva. You know your music :)
Friday13th 05.09.22	This is gonna be a close one!
e210013 05.09.22	But this is becoming a bit confusing. It lacks 1 vote of Shark and 1 vote of Sab and wham voted in all the 4. So, it's really hard to have a clear picture of the results in this moment.
Jethro42 05.09.22	''We'll see it my friend. What count is the final result.'' It's true, e21. I'm in a bad mood this morning :(
e210013 05.09.22	For me it's afternoon. Lol.
Jethro42 05.09.22	@Friday, TOO close.
Jethro42 05.09.22	Like The Police sing; Don't stand, Don't stand so Don't stand so close to me
Donchivo 05.09.22	@e21 well Wham voted for 2 in the first bracket and 3 in the second bracket I think
wham49 05.09.22	shit i thought we were ordering them again, misread. I will redo 2 and 3
Jethro42 05.09.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 6= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013 2- Circus; 8= SirLord. porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham 3- SBB; 7= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham 4- Pekka Pohjola; 7= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013
Jethro42 05.09.22	Candidates left to vote; hansolo, Myth, Sab 1/2, Shark 1/2, Sloth, Scheumke and bnelso.
zakalwe 05.09.22	Absolute nail biter.
SharkTooth 05.09.22	It is really hard voting between 3 and 4, both are top tier jazz-prog albums
Jethro42 05.09.22	Il Giardino Onirico is no longer alone up there.
SharkTooth 05.09.22	I just listened to 3 and 4 in full again and I still have no idea which I prefer
Jethro42 05.09.22	@Shark, which one would you bring to a party?
SharkTooth 05.09.22	probably 3 because it's the livelier one, the one that would fit the tone of a party better but pekka is no slouch in that category
Jethro42 05.09.22	Which one is more road music?
SharkTooth 05.09.22	that's tough, will have to get back to you on that
porcupinetheater 05.09.22	Which one is better to blast through the speakers when you’re the designated driver of the Bang Bus and have explicit instructions to keep your eyes on the road?
Jethro42 05.09.22	That's porc. Lol. Easy to identify!
porcupinetheater 05.09.22	Honk honk, thanks 4 tha rec’s!
kalkwiese 05.09.22	Wow, Apofenia was a huge favorite before and now it looks like it's loosing
SharkTooth 05.09.22	it's only behind the others by 1 tho, so it's not that behind
porcupinetheater 05.09.22	Especially considering every round that isn’t a blowout, the winner ultimately comes from behind at the last second. Reckon Apofenia’s a shoe-in
kalkwiese 05.09.22	True, very true. Apofenia would need 3 votes though, it is a bit unlikely
Jethro42 05.09.22	Everything is possible still. It's hard to believe, in the last round, Apofenia was all alone at the top, and now Circus is a serious threat.
SharkTooth 05.09.22	the latter 2 are just as serious, they're just 1 vote away from tying the lead
Jethro42 05.09.22	Man, is it as hard as that for you? Well go with your entry. You risk to regret one or another, at this point.
Mythodea 05.10.22	Listening again Apofenia last night, it's insane how great the lead guitar is, and how majestic the rhythm section. Riverside sound like a serious influence on the band
Jethro42 05.10.22	Good observation, Myth. Apofenia's guitarist can go that heavy, but overall, music is rather symphonic prog, and it's lighter than Riverside.
Jethro42 05.10.22	Oh wait, one can swear it's Riverside in places, agree.
TwigTW 05.10.22	I would pick 1&2 if I could, but... Circus - Movin' On Pekka Pohjola - Visitation
SlothcoreSam 05.10.22	Going to go with Il Giardino Onirico and SBB
Jethro42 05.10.22	Circus is really tenacious!
Jethro42 05.10.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 7= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013, Sloth 2- Circus; 9= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham, Twig 3- SBB; 8= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham, Sloth 4- Pekka Pohjola; 8= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013, Twig
Mythodea 05.11.22	Okay, it's time for me to vote as well Circus Pekka Pohjola
bgillesp 05.11.22	Oof
Divaman 05.11.22	Wow, is Il Giardino Onirico really not going to move on? I'd have thought it was a slam dunk.
Sabrutin 05.11.22	I was actually thinking of voting for Il Giardino! It's a "salad" of greatness, so I say to hell with my bias against modern prog. Sign me up for the Oniric Garden
bnelso55 05.11.22	Okay. I'm going to go with Il Giardino Onirico and Pekka Pohjola
Mythodea 05.11.22	It was indeed a difficult choice between Il Giardino and Circus, and I still think I could have voted either
e210013 05.11.22	Using the expression of porc, it seems that Giardiniera Onion re-entered in the fight. Nice.
Jethro42 05.11.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 9= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013, Sloth, Sab, bnelso 2- Circus; 10= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham, Twig. Myth 3- SBB; 8= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham, Sloth 4- Pekka Pohjola; 10= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013, Twig, Myth, bnelso
e210013 05.11.22	Jethro, Pekka Pohjola has 10 points too.
Jethro42 05.11.22	Yes, I corrected it, thanks.
Mythodea 05.11.22	>Giardiniera Onion ahahahahahahhahah
Friday13th 05.11.22	my goodness is this close
e210013 05.11.22	Yeah, it is. One more vote on Circus and Pekka Pohjola and both are the finalists. But by the other hand, we can have a tie like happened last year.
Scheumke 05.11.22	I'm going for Il Giardino Onirico and Pekka Pohjola. Both matches were really close for me, but in the end these two ended up being my favorite of the entire tournament.
Jethro42 05.11.22	Long live Apofenia! The only ones left is hansolo. Shark has to vote either SBB or Pekka.
e210013 05.11.22	So, right now, we have a tie between Il Giardino Onirico and Circus and Pekka Pohjola in the final. Right Jethro?
Jethro42 05.11.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 10= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013, Sloth, Sab, bnelso, Scheumke 2- Circus; 10= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham, Twig. Myth 3- SBB; 8= bgillesp, Diva, kalk. Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham, Sloth 4- Pekka Pohjola; 11= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013, Twig, Myth, bnelso, Scheumke
Jethro42 05.11.22	That's right. Pekka goes to the finals, and hansolo is the tiebreaker between Il Giardino and Circus.
e210013 05.11.22	Great final indeed. I'm sure that you and Gentleman are close to have a heart attack. Lol. Good luck for both.
Jethro42 05.11.22	It's a good struggle. I'm glad of my actual position. If I had to have a heart attack, it would have been in past few days. I delivered a good fight and i'm proud of my knight.
Scheumke 05.11.22	Hey if my knight was doomed to lose in round one, at least lose against a finalist haha.
SharkTooth 05.11.22	Welp, now my album is falling behind lol
Jethro42 05.11.22	Lol Scheumke, when I made our matchup, i had a doubt in my mind, saying I could lose against you :)
Jethro42 05.11.22	Yeah Shark, unfortunately. The best SBB can go is having 2 more points. It's not enough :( Good struggle, man.
Friday13th 05.11.22	So Han Solo didn't shoot first after all...he shot last XDDDD
SharkTooth 05.11.22	Ehh it's cool, I mainly submitted the record as a plug for the band in general, my only hope is people actually check their other stuff Also, I'll vote SBB. After marinating on those situations you posed, I realized I prefer SBB for both of them, so I'm gonna go for it
Jethro42 05.11.22	Lol Friday hahaha!!!
Jethro42 05.11.22	So yeah, Shark, keep a copy in your car, and bring it to a party!
SharkTooth 05.11.22	Club's gonna go wild when I hit them with that SBB
Jethro42 05.11.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 10= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013, Sloth, Sab, bnelso, Scheumke 2- Circus; 10= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham, Twig. Myth 3- SBB; 9= bgillesp, Diva, kalk, Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham, Sloth, Shark 4- Pekka Pohjola; 11= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013, Twig, Myth, bnelso, Scheumke
Jethro42 05.11.22	Yeah Shark, no doubt. I will listen to some of their albums, and will tell you my thoughts.
bgillesp 05.12.22	Oh man, what are we gonna do?
Jethro42 05.12.22	hansolo is left to vote, but he's got until tomorrow.
Jethro42 05.12.22	Given hansolo is not showing up, I'll give him until tonight before giving him a reminder.
hansoloshotfirst 05.12.22	2 and 3 for me. Thought I had voted already but apparently I got distracted and forgot to post it.
Friday13th 05.12.22	wow, both winners only by 1 point!
kalkwiese 05.12.22	Wow, I didn't expect this. Not my two favorites, but congratulations to the winners! They're good records
Jethro42 05.12.22	I lay down my weapons, I admit my defeat. It's strange though, my knight was forward on the top during the whole Elimination Rd, and all of a sudden I lost feathers. Kudos to SirLord and Zig. I'm preparing the Final phase asap.
Jethro42 05.12.22	1- Il Giardino Onirico; 10= bgillesp, Diva, Shark, kalk, Jethro, e210013, Sloth, Sab, bnelso, Scheumke 2- Circus; 11= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, zak, Donchivo, Intruder, wham, Twig. Myth, hansolo 3- SBB; 10= bgillesp, Diva, kalk, Donchivo, Jethro, Intruder, wham, Sloth, Shark, hansolo 4- Pekka Pohjola; 11= SirLord, porc, Zig, Friday, Sabrutin, zak, e210013, Twig, Myth, bnelso, Scheumke
bgillesp 05.12.22	Big sad
Jethro42 05.12.22	Long live Apofenia!
e210013 05.12.22	Congratulations to the winners and honor to the losers. Let's go to the final of another great tourney my friends, these time with the courtesy of our host and friend Jethro, the right substitute of the our also great friend Friday.
Divaman 05.13.22	Crap!
Zig 05.13.22	Congrats, MrSir! See you in the final. Seriously, any of the 4 records could be finalists.
Jethro42 05.14.22	''Congratulations to the winners and honor to the losers. Let's go to the final of another great tourney my friends, these time with the courtesy of our host and friend Jethro, the right substitute of the our also great friend Friday.'' Once again, you have words that are touching!