Divaman
08.31.21 | Danny Garcia actually isn't too bad. It's 2.0 that has to go. |
Divaman
08.31.21 | So is anybody planning to watch All Out Sunday night? |
LunaticSoul
08.31.21 | a-e-dub
a-e-dub
I most definitely am not, sunday night in europe yuk. Will do go to work, ignore internet for a day, plug FITE.TV and enjoy the show on Monday. |
LunaticSoul
08.31.21 | I got out of the dan garcia train when they removed his very very cool red death entrance song. like that song fucked, and they replaced it with generic thug rap v1.5 |
Get Low
08.31.21 | Hoping CM Punk eventually turns on AEW like he did WWE |
LunaticSoul
08.31.21 | it´s managed by his friends, so he will definitely pull a Cabana up at a certain point
But yeah all these AEW talks, make me just miss the best wrestling in the world (NJPW´s). I think however AEW is the best American wrestling company overall.
NXT Takeovers, however, were the best shows bell to bell. That series of takeovers when Gargano/Ciampa/Cole/Andrade/Black were on top fucked.
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Dedicated1
08.31.21 | No GG Allin on this list? |
LunaticSoul
08.31.21 | No Johnny Mox either
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AlexKzillion
08.31.21 | if the lucha bros don't win the cage match we riot |
JeetJeet
08.31.21 | Good to see Punk back. Excited to see him go against Darby. |
Prancer
08.31.21 | lucha bros need to win it, and Kenny will lose his mind pulling some heel shit to get the victory over Christian. the elite will start to crumble from the inside when they start losing gold and Hangman will build himself back up and eventually come back to the dark order over the next few months after All Out to take the title from Kenny at the next PPV. |
Divaman
08.31.21 | I looked for a band w/Darby in the title but didn't find one. Was pretty sure I wouldn't find a band named Moxley, so I admit, I didn't even look. The albums on the list were really just to get this list started and pull the conversation over here from the Double or Nothing list. |
Divaman
08.31.21 | There we go. |
LunaticSoul
08.31.21 | AMENRA next plz
No jokes aside, interject the AMENRA De Doorn thread, because I posted the Malakai entrance lol |
bloc
09.01.21 | "Hoping CM Punk eventually turns on AEW like he did WWE"
ngl I would love to see that |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | so uh...Triple H was just removed from his role in NXT...his replacement is Vince McMahon and Bruce Pritchard...PAUL LEVESQUE IS ALL ELITE! |
Divaman
09.02.21 | That would be wild. Meanwhile, I'm wondering if this Jericho match on Sunday is his way of clearing to deck to go back to WWF until he retires. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | oh wow. is that a feeling you have or is there info out there about his contract ending or something? |
Divaman
09.02.21 | I thought I'd seen something a while back that his contract was almost up (in October?). And he's always gone out of his way to keep a friendly relationship w Vince. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Not sure if I just wasn't in the mood last night or it was a mediocre show. First match was pretty decent (FTR vs. Santana and Ortiz), and it was nice to see Anna Jay back, though. |
JeetJeet
09.02.21 | I cant be the only one who thinks them signing Big Show and Mark Henry were completely unnecessary. The fuck do either of them add to the show? |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | Tay Conti is a better wrestler every month. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | Backstage more than anything I assume Jeet. This factory and “weeeeellll” feud is awful. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | I could see Conti becoming the women's champion at some point. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | Definitely. I feel like even tho Anna Jay is coming back Tay should be on the bigger roll unless they finally have a women’s tag title. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Which I'd like to see them get. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Btw, about the Jericho thing - the other thing that made me say that is that last night, it seemed as though they were really stressing that if Jericho loses, he'll never wrestle "in AEW" again. I'm thinking maybe Jericho loses (and at that point, he's succeeded in the goal he set on his podcast of really putting first Orange Cassidy and then MJF over big time), him and Fozzy hit the road for a few months, and then he reappears in WWF, retires there, and goes into the WWF Hall of Fame. But it all could be imaginary on my part. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | The other thing I'm thinking about for the ppv - maybe Punk turns heel? Right now, there's really no compelling heat between him and Darby Allin. And I don't see Darby and Sting making a heel turn. So ... |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Of course, right now, I'm not even sure I'll get to SEE the ppv, at least on a TV screen. I bought it yesterday, but the BleacherReport app isn't working right on my TV with the fire stick. I've got one more trick to try before I have to start calling around in panic mode. I might wind up watching it on my laptop, which would suck, because my daughter and I like to watch it on TV together. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | On Jericho Think that is definitely possible. I’m guessing 39% chance your are right. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | Oh shit, diva, you just hit it on the head but are wrong! Sting said he is gonna stay out of the way, which means hey are turning heel and gonna beat punk and cheat |
Motiv3
09.02.21 | Would they really turn Punk heel in Chicago? He'd just get cheered. |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Idk. Maybe I'm just thinking that because I never much liked him anyway. Storm could be right that they'll do it the other way. Hard to picture them turning Sting, though. |
rufinthefury
09.02.21 | Oh so this is the new wrasslin thread cool.
Dynamite last night was dope but I was super faded off edibles so I honestly don't remember much. Paid 8 dollars for an icecream bar. I am a mark. |
rufinthefury
09.02.21 | Jericho seemed honest about retiring and honestly I hope he does |
0GuyMan0
09.02.21 | ooh a wrestling convo on sput. I didn't know I needed this.
Since I generally observe the people in this thread to have a level of intelligence higher than that of /r/squaredcircle, at least from a distance, I want to pose a question that I am looking for honest answers:
How do you feel about power creep in AEW?
What I mean is, AEW started off with Jericho, Mox, and a lot of guys that were big in New Japan and the indies. These guys are mostly all generally smaller in stature, and beyond the elite, most of the company are a bit green in at least one area to say the least. IMO, that's why guys like OC can get away with winning matches against contenders, or why people like QT Marshall or Marko Stunt can even begin to have a place on national TV.
With the signings of Miro, Malakai Black, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Christian, FTR etc. (and I expect we see Bray Wyatt there soon enough) the roster is suddenly MUCH stronger with mid-upper card guys with tons of experience that, in many cases, physically dwarf a lot of the original top-tier guys in AEW. Hell Sting at 62 is more physically imposing than many of these guys.
Clearly, Hangman is next up. As it should be. And I don't think any of these signings change that, and in fact they could be used to elevate him even further. But we've previously established that guys like Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, OC and Rey Fenix are "the future"... Maybe I'm wrong, but with signings like these, I wonder do the AEW faithful like the idea of some of the greener guys taking a backseat for a while? I feel like it would delegitimize some of these heavy hitters to not acknowledge, at the VERY LEAST in the cases of Danielson and Punk (and maybe even Wyatt), that these guys are known worldwide as heavy hitters in the industry.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how I'm supposed to take Kenny "69 Me Don" Omega as legitimate when we see how Malakai and Miro are being presented now that they are free of WWE booking. I look at Roman right now, the way he carries himself, and I think - THAT is a champion. How rare it is that guys get over with the crowds despite the best efforts of WWE. And...lots of those guys are starting to show up in AEW...
I'm doing this on mobile so I hope I managed to stay on point here |
Divaman
09.02.21 | Look, to be honest, to a certain extent, a lot of early AEW was something of a freak show. Guys like Michael Nokazawa and his baby oil, little Marko Stunt and a lot of the others were entertaining at times, but yeah, as guys like Brodie Lee, Lance Archer and Miro arrived, a lot of them already started to get less and less air time.
So to answer your question, I guess I have mixed feelings about it. I don't know how I feel about a ton of older guys appearing who had seemed to be done due to injuries or just being away so long, like CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Paul Wight and Christian Cage. I'm feeling like we're maybe getting too many of them (although Cage has been wrestling at a pretty decent level so far.) But I hope they still keep giving plenty of coverage to Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, Darby Allin and Ricky Starks. (I find Orange Cassidy tremendously funny, but I find it really hard to suspend my disbelief sometimes at his, and even Darby's, wins.) |
Storm In A Teacup
09.02.21 | "Kenny "69 Me Don" Omega"
I didn't watch AEW for a month after he laid down in the ring and started saying that. I think WWE is fucking up so much that having the upper mid card guys go to aew SHOULD make a difference for the better. I think we need a Dark/Elevation championship that gives you the right to have a 5 minute promo on rampage or dynamite every week and that some guys that were featured more (like ya'll said) should be featured less or in places that better suite them and AEW and the audience. I think we all know at this point that someone like Nyla Rose or Marko Stunt are not stars and (specifically Nia) shouldn't be trusted with delivering in important matches on important shows. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | Kenny has had some great matches, though. |
0GuyMan0
09.03.21 | I think the biggest question, really, is how do the EVP's factor in once all this heavy-hitting talent elevates the company? Big props to them for building the company, you can't take away any of what they did. but with all these big names coming in, do I still get to expect 30 minutes of the elite on my screen every week? |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | and why the hell did FTR have one match with the bucks, lose, and that was it? can't get over that unless they are gonna come back to it after making me want it more, though the general feeling i get is no one cares now that it was fucked up. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | listening to the tony khan scrub call right now and he just referenced the stars that will still feature on dark/elevation to make sure the shows still have stars and it was a clue on what he thinks of one or two people. was surprised he listed Nyla Rose but i guess she's a star to him and others. |
AlexKzillion
09.03.21 | I def think the more and more AEW grows, the less power the EVPs are gonna have. I know there's already been talk that Jericho has as much backstage pull as anyone (including the EVPs)... and Punk has been plastered on literally fucking everything and gets a 15 minute promo every show since he arrived. What about when Danielson comes? What if Wyatt comes? Braun Strowman?
I think Kenny will always have a solid spot on the card, and Hangman seems to be their Goldberg. But the Bucks? The only thing really keeping them on TV is their EVP status and the belts. I feel like if you were to erase the Bucks off television, it wouldn't effect the company's momentum in the slightest. |
AlexKzillion
09.03.21 | I also agree that they've been presenting Kenny far too much like a punk champion who can't do shit without his 10 man entourage behind him in comparison to Roman. If someone were to watch Dynamite for the first time last night they'd prob think the TNT title was their top title because of how much more legit Miro looks and acts. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | I call dibs on being the last person to ever tell Miro that he doesn't have the top title. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | I don't see how Hangman is their Goldberg but I didn't watch wcw. thought he was undefeated and a monster |
Divaman
09.03.21 | I haven't watched Roman in years, but one of the reasons I stopped watching WWF was because Vince kept trying to shove him down the fans' throats, and I thought he had zero charisma. That's when he was a babyface, though. I haven't watched since he came back and they made him a heal. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | Hangman is a better all-around wrestler than Goldberg was. Goldberg WAS undefeated and a monster, but one of the reasons they had him defeating everybody in like 30 seconds was so as not to expose how green he was as wrestler. |
AlexKzillion
09.03.21 | Haha I meant like young organic in-house created baby face that fans are SALIVATING to see finally win the belt. Kinda where the similarities end though haha |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | it's not even that roman is a heel now instead of a babyface, he's a different person, different performer. I would rank him as a five times better version of Triple H from the Evolution era and the Bloodline Stable is just as good as Evolution. |
ExhaleTheLight
09.03.21 | Hangman's babyface arc is definitely shaping up to be one of the best. I remember in the early AEW days, fans saw him as the "shove down our throats" guy when he was getting win after win. He was audibly booed at the first All Out when he fought Jericho, but since then bounced backed as a natural, sympathetic baby face. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | Kurt Russell should dress up as John Ruth and escort hangman to the ring |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | i wonder if sasha banks is getting vaccinated while suspended or they are going to keep suspending her |
LunaticSoul
09.03.21 | Mark Henry is a very good backstage guy apparently, like he has loads of connections - brought even the NBA MVP to mark out like a fanboy on first row at Rampage. They are blatantly trying to build up the next Jim Ross too as he will at a certain point be very too old - have you seen him going down the ring yesterday? he also seemed either very emotional, or very in pain before calling Jericho out?
yeah show yesterday had that mediocre feel, but I also was in a very mediocre mood. I thought they mic´d the audience poorly on fight, and matches were all sort of odd. Like FTR did not go that hard, PnP were good I guess but the match had no "blood feud" feel, and I don´t know if it´s due to FTR retirement being true or just a worked shoot and they did not do much the whole match.
Kenny´s dork character is adorable. I love hating how dorky he is. I however think it´s complete shit for mainstream appeal, but the guy is doing wrestling gimmick 101 which is overexaggerating some very true facts about you (i.e. that he is a dork). He´s not even the main part of the show now in his run as champion because there are more important things, but most matches were good to great and we all know the Page finale will be a banger of a match, and most of all a very satisfying thing to watch unfold.
But yeah Kenny the cleaner Omega was 100% the best version of Kenny. But he was a very dorky character that just turned his athleticism to a THOUSAND during the Okada feud and the G1s, putting up the best matches ever and best stories. You hardly see this in AEW because let´s be serious there are just a few G1-level dance partners in AEW, and he feuded already with both of them (Fenix and PAC).
But yeah Kenny sucks, yet you are all salivating on Hangman getting the win which is "Kenny Omega long term story booking 101". You feel this way because the story is compelling and you want him to go down. if he were the NJPW god, you would never want him down. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | No question, Omega's matches w/PAC and his being part of that Kenny and Hangman vs. Young Bucks match were his best work in AEW. On the whole, though, his work as a heel has been better than his first year or so in AEW as a babyface. |
AlexKzillion
09.03.21 | "Kenny´s dork character is adorable. I love hating how dorky he is. I however think it´s complete shit for mainstream appeal, but the guy is doing wrestling gimmick 101 which is overexaggerating some very true facts about you (i.e. that he is a dork). He´s not even the main part of the show now in his run as champion because there are more important things,"
I agree with all this except I think him and the super elite are absolutely presented as the main part of the show still along with CM Punk and Jericho (though that seems to be winding down). Miro, MJF, Moxley, Lance Archer, Malakai, Andrade, Sammy Guevara, FTR etc. don't seem to do much of anything on average week to week but you're basically guaranteed roughly 15 minutes of Kenny/Bucks tv time. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out as they continue to add more and more bigger names every week. |
LunaticSoul
09.03.21 | I for one fucking laughed like an idiot to the "69 me don" line. Like if you had to decide when to take a break from AEW, maybe calling out that revolution explosion fiasco would have been better
BUT yeah love how AEW is one of those shows where you expect great shit and you are disappointed by average episodes.
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AlexKzillion
09.03.21 | I wanna see Miro run through the entire roster... just deciding at random his next victim, face or heel, from the dregs of dark to the main event picture, all by the will of god. Him raising his arms to the sky as Kingston ran to the ring last Friday was fucking great. Dude is totally in his own universe and I love it. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | @lunatic soul it was the same segment so does it really matter which, 69 and explosion explanation were both the same thing. But actually yeah one was an unfortunate accident and one was intentional and you’re saying I should blame AEW for an accident over something intentional? Ridiculous. This was also when Doc and Karl started 100% cum material too so I think I had a pretty good argument to not watch AEW and bte for a month and to call me out over not being happy with low tier sex “humor” is ridiculous. I’m sick of the sarcasm humor that once you take away the industry gossip they make fun of has no actual depth at all. |
rufinthefury
09.03.21 | I fucking hate the Good Brothers schtick. The Young Bucks I wouldn't mind if they didn't have such ridiculous booking where they waffled from face to heel to face to heel before finally settling on being heels. Kenny is the one member of the Elite who I think had his character done properly. He's properly high off his own farts and his storyline does actually follow through with everything he's done since the start of AEW. |
0GuyMan0
09.03.21 | Kenny is the only one of the elite that I think has a place with the new talent being brought in. I'm hoping once Hangman beats him he cuts the dorky shit out, but I'm not holding my breath. The guy is great, but they are getting a lot of heavy hitters who would be lowering themselves by entertaining the goofiness of the elite.
If not for Hangman, I'd want Miro to bulldoze the roster, lay the TNT belt down in the center of the ring and tell Kenny through the camera that God's Favorite Champion is coming for him. And for all I care, he can be the AEW final boss for the time being, a la Brock. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | Man you guys are much less hostile than AEWs YouTube comment section and actually making sense. 😂😅 |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | Did you guys see that Tony Khan had to be held back after Dynamite from trying to get to the Elite in the cage and he yelled fuck you to them |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.21 | Looks like Tony Khan might finally insert himself in a main storyline like he said he would never do. He has grown a lot as a booker since then so I have faith regardless of him becoming a tv character. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | If I never saw the Good Brothers again, that would be fine. I can deal with the Bucks' ridiculousness - the fancy sneakers, etc. But I think I'm giving up on BTE. |
rufinthefury
09.03.21 | I'm an admitted AEW mark (shit I'm going to all 3 shows this week) but they certainly aren't without their flaws. The thing is that AEW gets the benefit of the doubt because they haven't shit on the viewers yet, they killed off angles nobody liked (such as the Nightmare Family), and overall their shows are about 90% Good to Great and only 10% bad and awkward.
Like yeah AEW isn't perfect, there's a lot of things that need attention like the women's division for one. But god damn I can watch three hours of AEW no problem while watching just one hour WWE is torturous. |
0GuyMan0
09.03.21 | I don't think Tony will be a TV mainstay, personally. If he is, then what...he's at war with his EVPs in kayfabe now? I don't see how that works...he's got plenty of new (arguably better) talent. He could just be like...GTFO and vacate the belts.
I'm honestly fascinated with the dynamic of the EVP's and the rest of the roster moving forward. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | Well, in fairness, if you remember, in Year 1, the EVP's took somewhat background roles. The Bucks lost in that first big tag team tourney, Omega was so far in the background (although he was a co-holder of the tag title for a while) that people were questioning whether his best days were behind him, and Cody almost immediately lost a match to Jericho with the stipulation that he could never compete for the AEW title again.
I'm expecting (hoping) that as we move into 2022, the Bucks and Omega step into the background again. |
Divaman
09.03.21 | I see that PAC had problems with travel restrictions, so they had to cancel the match between him and Andrade for the PPV. |
0GuyMan0
09.04.21 | I guess I'll continue to not know what the big fucking deal with Andrade is. Honestly it's a bummer, I was looking forward to that one quite a bit. |
Divaman
09.04.21 | Geez, they're just burying us in Daniel Garcia and 2.0 these last few weeks. How can we miss them if they won't go away? |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | Tony Khan said this wasn’t the plan but the crowd reaction and online reaction of the new guys was so valuable that he has no choice but to push them, to the moon! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | PAC is cursed |
ExhaleTheLight
09.04.21 | I think Mox v. Kojima will be the sleeper hit of the show. |
rufinthefury
09.04.21 | Rampage was great. I had two edibles and just melted into my seat. Speaking of which the guy next to me was so big he broke the armrest standing up at one point my mind was blown.
Jungle Express is stupid over, these past couple shows have proven it to me. Crowd can be dead tired after 3.5 hours of wrestling and Jurassic Express music hits and everyone is up. I like em but dont love em, but fuck Chicago loves em. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | it was a great show. It just flows so well and the interviews by Jolly Saint Mark Henry are sweet. During the main event I had the sudden realization that Daniel Garcia might be a new AJ Styles |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | I think people might be wrong about the Mox and Kojima match. did you guys see the press conference they did? Kojima can barely move, can barely throw a punch...it reminded me of that time in TNA when Matt Hardy was so broken in real life that he could barely move (no broken pun intended) |
LunaticSoul
09.04.21 | Guys the NJPW dads can barely walk all of them, but they deliver in ring. Trust the Japanese. They will stop doing their shit when they die.
I think NJPW is the pinnacle of wrestling. Now if Japan could fucking get a hold of covid....
Guys every roster needs lame heels. 2.0 are so good at being obnoxious (the guy that looks like the third young buck is soooo punchable). Also have you seen the acclaimed comeback rap holy shit. Loved it
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LunaticSoul
09.04.21 | Holy shit what the fuck did Kris Statlander do on Rampage - this woman - that was so fucking impressive.
All matches delivered, loved this Rampage. Fuuuuck yeah Sunday can't come soon enough. I will blast my way through work on Monday, train, order a proper Pizza, couple of drinks and All Out here I go. Legit legit excited. |
Divaman
09.04.21 | Hope the New Japan men do it better than the women. I watched the women's tournament a few months back, and it was the same with Aja Kong - she could barely walk to the ring.
As for 2.0, they could maybe turn out OK, but I don't need to see them on every single show. |
rufinthefury
09.04.21 | I thought NJPW didn't even have a Joshi division? |
rufinthefury
09.04.21 | AJPW 4 life btw. I love Zeus, he had some bangers with my guy Joe Doering who is now in Impact. NJPW is very good too ofc but I feel like the pandemic really fucked them and even their booking has suffered which is unfortunate since that's usually their strongest aspect. |
AlexKzillion
09.04.21 | I think the coolest thing AEW has done is bring awareness to non-WWE wrestling in general. Like I was a TNA fan back in the day but I had never heard tell of New Japan, ROH, CZW, shit I didn't even know Impact was even a thing still... so much cool stuff going on everywhere that I had no idea about |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | This All Out feels like a Wrestlemania |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | 1 Best Friends (Orange Cassidy, Chuck Taylor, and Wheeler Yuta) and Jurassic Express (Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus) (with Marko Stunt) vs. Hardy Family Office (Matt Hardy, Private Party (Isiah Kassidy and Marq Quen) and The Hybrid 2 (Angélico and Jack Evans) 10-man tag team match
2 Nyla Rose vs. Thunder Rosa vs. The Bunny vs. Big Swole vs. Julia Hart vs. Tay Conti vs. Diamante vs. Penelope Ford vs. Red Velvet vs. Hikaru Shida vs. Emi Sakura vs. Jade Cargill vs. Kiera Hogan vs. Abadon vs. Leyla Hirsch vs. KiLynn King vs. Rebel vs. Jamie Hayter vs. Anna Jay vs. Riho vs. Skye Blue vs. 1 woman TBD 21-woman Casino Battle Royale for a AEW Women's World Championship match
3 Jon Moxley vs. Satoshi Kojima Singles match
4 Paul Wight vs. QT Marshall (with Aaron Solo and Nick Comoroto) Singles match
5 Chris Jericho vs. MJF Singles match
If Jericho loses, he must retire from in-ring competition.
6 Miro (c) vs. Eddie Kingston Singles match for the AEW TNT Championship
7 The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) (with Brandon Cutler) (c) vs. Lucha Brothers (Penta El Zero Miedo and Rey Fenix) (with Alex Abrahantes) Steel Cage match for the AEW World Tag Team Championship
8 Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (c) (with Rebel) vs. Kris Statlander Singles match for the AEW Women's World Championship
9 CM Punk vs. Darby Allin Singles match
10 Kenny Omega (c) vs. Christian Cage Singles match for the AEW World Championship |
Divaman
09.04.21 | First time I've seen them use Abadon in ages. I thought she was injured. Glad to see KiLynn King in the Battle Royale, too. I'm expecting a Thunder Rosa win.
They just kind of buried Jamie Hayter last night, having her and Rebel lose a handicapped match to Statlander.
Please, please, please, no surprise appearances by Danny Garcia and 2.0.
I understand them not having a replacement match ready for Andrade after Pac couldn't travel, but I'm a little surprised they left Malachai Black off the card. Oh well. |
Divaman
09.04.21 | Any read on the mystery woman in the Battle Royale? |
AlexKzillion
09.04.21 | I think the Best Friends/Jurassic Express vs. HFO is the replacement match for Andrade vs Pac.
I liked the HFO when it was just Hardy and Private Party... but it's way too bloated and just feels like a glorified jobber squad now |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | My guess is Ruby Soho |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | I’m like 99% sure it has to be Ruby. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.04.21 | It is very weird that Malaki Black is not on the card and is feuding with the Nightmare Family which apparently still is a stable and that they are advertising Dustin vs Black on the post All Out dynamite. 🤔 |
Divaman
09.04.21 | OK. I keep expecting them to bring Tulsi Blanchard in. |
Divaman
09.04.21 | It's looking like they might be dismantling the Nightmare Family. The Gunns have turned heel, and Black is systematically working his way through the others. Not sure how much time Cody is planning to take off. |
rufinthefury
09.04.21 | Pulling for Skye Blue to win that women's battle royale 100%. She has no chance but I want it |
rufinthefury
09.04.21 | oh no. anyways |
Divaman
09.04.21 | Looks like the Bleacher Report apron my TV updated itself, so I'll be able to watch the PPV on my TV after all. Would have sucked if I'd have had to watch it on my laptop, because my daughter and I like to watch it together. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | Jeez, I turned on a special edition of AEW Dark tonight, and the first match they throw at us is 2.0. I'm so sick of these guys it isn't even funny. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | I think tonight was the first time I've seen Skye Blue. I kind of like her. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | I think my theory about Jericho losing and going back to WWF is wrong. I just looked up the next Jericho cruise, and it's listed for this October, and all of the wrestling guest stars are AEW guys. |
rufinthefury
09.05.21 | Jericho is losing and going on a Fozzy tour not back to WWE lol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | That running knee strike by Tully on dark was awesome |
rufinthefury
09.05.21 | the Saturday episode of Dark is worth watching for Jurassic Express and Skye Blue alone.
God I'm so excited for tonight. Gonna be fucking crazy |
Divaman
09.05.21 | Some big names left out of the show today, including Malakai Black, Lance Archer, Sammy Guevara, Brian Cage, Ricky Starks, Endrade El Idolo and (obviously) Cody. |
rufinthefury
09.05.21 | Malakai missing is the only name on that list thats weird to me, he should definitely have been booked. Andrade not having a match is just unfortunate but I'm pretty sure he'll come out and do a segment with someone in compensation. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | I'm guessing w/Malakai, they just felt that his story hadn't developed enough yet. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | Think with Malakai Tony khan is doing the Miro thing. Ruses was hurt inn wwe, Tony had to build him up. Doing same thing with Black but also pushing him more than Miro already, it will be okay.
Really hope we do not see 2.0 tonight but I’m sure they will attack someone, would not be surprised if Bryan Danielson makes his debut to attack 2.0 and Garcia |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | Also I did like Garcia at first but now that him and 2.0 are overexposed I am starting to see Garcia more as a snot nosed kid. |
AlexKzillion
09.05.21 | I hope Darby vs. Punk is just a clean 1 on 1 with no interference or anything... like please don't overcomplicate this Tony |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | 🦂 👞 💫
Stinger heel turn! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | Is the Joe Alonzo thing that happened at Vlog crew all out press conference a work or real? Seems real |
rufinthefury
09.05.21 | Darby v Punk should be clean unless my guy Bryan Danielson wants to show up mebbe |
Divaman
09.05.21 | Oh, and no Hangman, who's probably my favorite. It's gotten so that AEW's lineup is so packed that you can't help leave good people off of the ppv. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | To add on, Tony Khan said this week he will never stop hiring. He says a roster can’t be full because a full roster is an idea that doesn’t really exist. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | Well, they've got 4 full shows every week, and they add extras pretty often. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | If the Jags can win a super bowl in the next few years and AEW keeps growing Tony Khan will probably be a big name in mainstream media. |
AlexKzillion
09.05.21 | "Tony Khan said this week he will never stop hiring. He says a roster can’t be full because a full roster is an idea that doesn’t really exist."
Hmm while technically the truth, I really do feel like they're beginning to push it to the brink a bit... obviously not monetarily cause Tony has an unlimited budget, but in terms of just not having enough tv time to go around for everyone. While Dark and Elevation are great for the younger less experienced workers, I can't imagine former champions like Shida and FTR are entirely happy being more or less relegated to youtube as of late, or newer signings like Ethan Page (post-Darby feud) and Andrade not really doing a whole lot of anything for months after being presented as huge signings. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | Which in turn isn’t so bad. Andrade headlining AAA with Omega was big. Ethan Page is a big vlogger. I know those morons at wwe think they are the next Disney but honestly it seems like there is more abundance of content from AEW talent than wwe and the quality is incomparable. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.05.21 | I thought Cornette was finally giving AEW a chance but his hatred this week is just appalling |
Divaman
09.05.21 | I had to stop listening to Cornette ages ago. |
AlexKzillion
09.05.21 | lmao I can't stop myself from listening to those youtube clips... dude is hilarious even if I disagree with him quite a bit |
AlexKzillion
09.05.21 | Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I've been getting the ppvs on fite tv with my vpn at a large discount but they finally cracked down on it |
Divaman
09.05.21 | Oops. |
Divaman
09.05.21 | OK, see you after the ppv. |
AlexKzillion
09.05.21 | if the lucha bros don't win the cage match we riot [∞] |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | just finished the pre-show. loved the 10 man tag match and was wishing the Butcher was there when he showed up. the Dan Lambert American Top Team Men of The Year promo has me going for one more crazy guess about tonight. they attack christian and he can't compete. someone like adam cole or bryan danielson ends up main eventing against Kenny Omega |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | well, this is amazing after the first couple matches. just started womens title match. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | if you can't afford to watch you can watch at watchwrestling.in |
Divaman
09.06.21 | Match of the night was the Lucha Bros. v the Bucks imo. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | My high-ish expectations were fucking surpassed man. Nearly every match was a straight banger. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Lucha Bros vs. the Bucks is one of the best matches I've ever seen
I was legit getting heated when it was looking like the bucks were gonna win lmao |
Divaman
09.06.21 | They've done a good job of building interest in the Luchas. A year ago, I didn't much care about them, and I felt that a lot of their matches were acrobatics for the sake of acrobatics. By tonight, I was really rooting for them. |
Divaman
09.06.21 | Another point of interest - note that Britt won her match clean. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Yeah that was easily the best match I've seen Britt wrestle besides the lights out match with Rosa. Statlander is a beast too |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | And I fucking loved seeing OC lose it trying to motivate Kris to get back in the ring |
Divaman
09.06.21 | A shame Julia Hart was injured and couldn't compete. |
ExhaleTheLight
09.06.21 | Wow. Still hyped. I was invested in almost every match, minus the Paul Wight one. Ending was amazing. |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | Greatest live show I've ever been to period. Holy fuck.
I know everyone is freaking out about all the newcomers but FUCK ME Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks in that cage was just godly |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | I thought Punk debuting at the United Center was gonna be the best live event ever but they surpassed it lmao. How the fuck does AEW ever top this |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | this is the best ppv i have seen since at least wrestlemania 30. still watching kenny omega vs christian cage |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | i thought they handled Paul Wight perfectly tonight. even though it is obviously the "weakest" match i thought it was perfect |
Divaman
09.06.21 | I wasn't impressed with the Mox match. |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | This deadass might be the greatest ppv ever. Top to bottom excellent, not a single bad match, like 4 enormous debut pops, insanely hot crowd for 90% of the damn thing, like jesus. Justin Credible, Blue Meanie, and Joey Janela are all saying it's the best ever and I really have to think right now. There's plenty of PPVs I enjoy top to bottom like Takeover Brooklyn and Heatwave 98, but fuck. Plus being there live just adds a whole layer of enjoyment.
This might be the GOAT PPV.
EDIT: I remembered Wrestlekingdom 10, that shit is phenomenal. Man, stiff competition though. |
ExhaleTheLight
09.06.21 | i did feel like the crowd lost steam after the lucha bros match forsure. I thought the Punk match they were gonna just as loud as MITB 2011, sadly not as loud. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | just finished the ppv. easily top 5 ppv all time high expectations with higher results. incredible |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | a lot of reports coming in that people who attended the show are stranded at the arena because no uber drivers or taxis working |
Divaman
09.06.21 | >i did feel like the crowd lost steam after the lucha bros match forsure.
Hard to match the intensity of that match. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Yeah I think that if possible, cage matches, ladder matches, street fights etc. should be placed as late in the card as possible for exactly that reason. Crowd seemed pretty out of it until the Jericho/MJF restart... though given how the show ended I think it made a lot of sense why it was where it was. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Jericho vs. MJF was the only match on the entire card that I had real problems with. A) Jericho threw that table stand thing at MJF's head right in the refs face yet wasn't DQed somehow... b) Jericho's foot pretty clearly touched the ropes at/after three... c) restarting a professional wrestling match due to ref inadequacy opens up a can of worms that seriously did not need to be opened up... and d) what was the point of Jericho winning lmao that was a terrible decision. If Jericho was gonna beat MJF in either of their matches it should've def been the TV match.
Despite all that it was still a really well worked match. MJF is great in the ring and wish we saw him wrestle more matches. Dude sells like hell, legitimately thought he injured his lower back... just like I legitimately thought he fucked his knee in the Sammy match. |
LunaticSoul
09.06.21 | "Greatest live show I've ever been to period. Holy fuck.
I know everyone is freaking out about all the newcomers but FUCK ME Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks in that cage was just godly"
You lucky fucker. I envy Chicago this week.
Well I was at WrestleKingdom 12 which is another contender for top to bottom hard sexy card, but this was like a bucket of all good things american wrasslin´, the hypest tag match I have ever seen that got me screaming like EURO 2020, I think a fantastic Punk comeback and a legit main event that still managed to get some good traction despite you guys being veeery spent (and how could you not be fucking spent) and holy shit that finale, I had a very personal standing ovation in front of the TV. I may had to work all day today but when I woke up at 8 am all I could think was A-E-DUB. I will be working now till 10 but jesus it was worth it.
The Jericho/MJF restart was a masterclass in how to rebuild crowd engagement after like what was a collective orgasm in that cage match final pop. |
LunaticSoul
09.06.21 | I fucking love Pro Wrestling. |
LunaticSoul
09.06.21 | "I wasn't impressed with the Mox match."
I thought it was a quite good, G1 dad level match-up. Kojima proved he still has it and the Suzuki surprise was amazing. I think Nagata´s match with Mox was better just because I love Nagata almost as much as I love murder grandpa. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Tbh I think Moxley puts on his best matches (or, non-deathmatches) against the Japan guys. |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | Suzuki v Moxley is going to be amazing. And God dammit Jon keeps shit talking Tanahashi they have to do that match eventually pls Mr. Khan do it |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | Yeah I really hope we don’t have more gcw in AEW even though Mox won the title on Saturday. The fact he didn’t come out with the belt is a good sign but was wearing a gcw hoodie, commentary didn’t say anything about him beating Matt Cardona eithet |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | I thought he was coming out wearing the belt but sadly no. I regret not going to GCW on Saturday |
Divaman
09.06.21 | I enjoyed the ppv last night, but not as much as some of you. I didn't think it was one of the best ppv's ever.
The Lucha Bros. match was definitely the best. I liked the Jericho/MJF match a lot. To be continued. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | Of course first 5 seconds of new bte Doc Gallows is jerking off. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | "Yeah I really hope we don’t have more gcw in AEW even though Mox won the title on Saturday."
Agreed. All for non-WWE promotions getting more attention but yeah I'm not a deathmatch guy at all |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | Look high! It's my last hope, Chavo Guerrero coming off the top rope! |
ExhaleTheLight
09.06.21 | At this point Mox vs Tanahashi at Full Gear is a given, why wouldn’t NJPW want publicity where most eyes are on a product. |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | "Jesus! We need your help with this black magic." Kenny is fucking funny man
Fuck the Good Brothers tho |
Divaman
09.06.21 | Sorry, got interrupted w/a phone call.
Punk/Darby match was extremely well wrestled. My only issue is, I've never been a huge CM Punk guy, and although I knew they couldn't bury Punk in his first match, in Chicago, I hated to have to see Darby sell for him and take the L.
Omega/Christian was likewise very well wrestled, and as much as I hated to see the Elite do the run in at the end, the Adam Cole twist followed by the Bryan Danielson entrance was a great high note to end on.
Britt/Statlander was good, and I love that they let Britt win the match clean.
The Women's Battle Royale was excellent, except that I hated the ending - I want that Britt/Thunderosa championship match. I hate it when AEW brings in somebody new and immediately rewards them with a championship match. I hated it when they did it w/Brian Cage, and I hated it here.
The Kingston/Miro match was pretty good throughout, but I had mixed feelings about the ending. I hated Kingston losing because of ref incompetence, although I'm not really ready to be done w/Miro as the TNT Champion yet.
The buy-in match was fine. I don't know if we really needed it, since OC recently beat Hardy in what could have been the end of the feud. But I guess you had to find some way to Jungle Boy, Matt Hardy and OC into the PPV. And I was really happy to see Butcher back from his injury.
And like I said, I wasn't much feeling the Moxley match, probably because I have no knowledge of most of the New Japan guys.
I think that was everything. |
Divaman
09.06.21 | Oh, Paul Wight vs. QT Marshall. Can't really complain, it only took 3 minutes. Wight looked like he had a hard time walking to the ring. Kind of satisfying to see him kill QT I guess. |
ExhaleTheLight
09.06.21 | As a New Japan fan, that Mox match was up there, the real highlight was Suzuki coming out.
As for Punk’s match, it was finally refreshing to see a Darby match where he wasn’t tossed around the whole time. I’m not a huge Darby fan as most of his matches lead to him taking 90 percent of the offense. His match with Punk was probably his best match so far (other than fighting Cody @ DON or Mox on Dynamite for the title) |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | "But I guess you had to find some way to Jungle Boy, Matt Hardy and OC into the PPV."
well we did get OC in the womens title match where he flipped his lid moving fast and screaming at the top of his lungs. that was awesome, and correct me if im wrong but I think we got to see Jungle Boy three times in the ring during the ppv and he was part of the main event video package slightly so jungle boys face was in four segments counting the buy in. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | and then the post show promo could be counted as a 5th thing that jungle boy and luchasaurus were in for All In. crazy exposure but also done very quietly... |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | Jungle Boy and Darby are obviously the two chosen young faces of the brand. They get a TON of shine.
I'm watching the post-All Out media scrum now and everyone is soooo happy. I feel especially great for Ruby Soho, we popped hard when she came out. I went to college in her hometown and watched her on WWE when I was still in school, now look at her. Crazy. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | rubys brother or half brother was my coworker for a few months i bet he is so ecstatic |
Divaman
09.06.21 | I suspect we're now going to get The Good Brothers going after the Luchas' title. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | at least 2.0 didn't come out at all lololol |
Divaman
09.06.21 | Yeah, so true, heh heh. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | "As for Punk’s match, it was finally refreshing to see a Darby match where he wasn’t tossed around the whole time. I’m not a huge Darby fan as most of his matches lead to him taking 90 percent of the offense."
Same, especially towards the end of his TNT title reign. Gets literally destroyed the entire time, but gets the sneaky rollup win. Hope they continue to book him against people closer to his size like Punk. Shit, Cole and Bryan would be awesome matches.
Also didn't mind him losing to Punk... dude is like 30-3 this year or something crazy |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | 22-3 but the website has a typo on the current year, his says 2020 everyone else says 2021 |
Storm In A Teacup
09.06.21 | The most shocking records are the Gunn brothers, they are a combined 52 - 2 in their AEW career, that’s not a typo... |
rufinthefury
09.06.21 | Gunn Club dominated on Dark for a long time just getting face wins to pop the crowd real quick. The kids honestly aren't bad |
0GuyMan0
09.06.21 | What a ride. Smile on my face for like four fucking hours.
I wish there was some semblence of an actual MATCH in bucks / lucha bros, I'm pretty sure all four of them were involved from start to finish. I REALLY could do without standing in a circle and exchanging superkicks. That kind of thing is just the Bucks formula I suppose, but it's pretty much all that stands in the way of me calling it perfect or better than Ilja / WALTER.
Crowd was heated for it though holy shit. |
LunaticSoul
09.06.21 | Ilja / WALTER deserved a crowd like this and instead they got the shit PC. it was like watching an indie show that takeover. what a fuckup this whole NXT thing. takeover were the tits. 4-5 matches, 2 hours, only the best. . . now go fucking figure
I thought the cage match was just superficially a spotfest with a fuckton of storytelling in it. Fenix defies physics. Penta told a masterclass of storytelling. That image of him covering the lil bro while spitting blood is already imho a classic. I want that shit in all the next video packages from here to 2030 or something.
Also, that pop when they won was monstrous. I swear it felt like the one for Danielson. Crowd was eating that match like a endless reserve of fries. I think it will be my MOTY solely because of the storytelling/absurdity in-ring/crowd engagement.
But I am also a YB stan |
LunaticSoul
09.06.21 | also, how the fuck do you not do a tornado tag when you are in a cage? like how's that going to work? what's next? ladder match with tags? lol of course it was a tornado match. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.21 | Wait was the cage match not a tornado tag??? I never saw any tags so I just assumed it was |
Divaman
09.06.21 | I don't think they ever officially called it one, but yeah, it was a tornado match. |
rufinthefury
09.07.21 | Going by Jericho's newest Instagram post I think the Inner Circle v Pinnacle feud is over. What a wasted feud, it should have been amazing but instead it got way over booked. |
Divaman
09.07.21 | Just as well. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.07.21 | That's fine hopefully we get Lucha Bros vs Santana and Ortiz and Lucha bros vs FTR |
Storm In A Teacup
09.07.21 | Wonder if Hangman will dump dark order and we get a faction of Hangman, Bryan, Christian, and Jungle Express vs The Elite |
Divaman
09.07.21 | So these days, even the Bunny's vlog is better than BTE. |
Divaman
09.07.21 | Not clear what FTR will be doing after this feud. |
rufinthefury
09.08.21 | Rumor is that Kevin Owens's contract is coming to an end at WWE. Mt. Rushmore reformation incoming? |
AlexKzillion
09.08.21 | I'd bet money Kevin Steen all elite by this time next year if so haha |
AlexKzillion
09.08.21 | And they totally booked the inner circle vs. pinnacle feud completely backwards... 100% agree with Cornette on that one. Would have been so so so much better if they did all the singles/tag matches first, then stadium stampede, and then blood and guts, then the Jericho retirement angle. Tbh I am happy to see Jericho leave for a couple months.
Really should not have taken six months to finally get a straight FTR vs. Santana/Ortiz match. |
rufinthefury
09.08.21 | Agreed on all the Pinnacle/IC stuff Alex. Also add to the list the Pinnacle forming with an incredible heel beatdown on the IC only for the IC to ambush them back literally like one or two weeks later. It was too soon imo.
I'm a few days late but the newest Botchamania had one of the funniest ending edits ever with Vince killing NXT lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
09.08.21 | kevin owens tweeted the geographic coordinates for Mount Rushmore earlier today and then deleted the tweet right after |
ExhaleTheLight
09.08.21 | Inner Circle v Pinnacle feud did no favors for MJF's group IMO. While it was overbooked, it definitely lost steam after the overhyped Blood and Guts match. I feel like Tony Khan was just waiting until fans came back to push new storylines with crowd reactions returning.
The most forgettable person from that group is still Shawn Spears sadly. I am also waiting for that Wardlow Batista-esque face turn. Dude has the look and the moves to become one of their big homegrown babyfaces. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.08.21 | Shawn Spears is a jobber |
rufinthefury
09.08.21 | A lot of people say that Cody Rhodes is a midcarder for life and I disagree with that, I've personally seen him main event and do great at popping the crowd.
Shawn Spears tho? Tye Dillinger? Yeah, midcarder for life 100%. And I don't dislike him either, but his ceiling is so obvious. |
LunaticSoul
09.08.21 | I think there has not been one MJF feud that has been booked to perfection. e.g. his Cody feud was a blood feud that lasted one match. But then I can say that most Cody feuds had also not been booked to perfection.
Shawn Spears getting MURDERED by Sammy was insane. those knee shots busted him hard. Like that was genuinely worrying me.
Also to go back to All Out, Bryce Remsburg and Eddie are long time pals, so seeing Eddie losing for a error by his best buddy was just another long term story for hardcore fans unravelling (and made the ending even sadder in my opinion, like you would never want to be inadvertently fucked over by one of your friends at work). |
Divaman
09.08.21 | >Shawn Spears is a jobber
Yep. Always has been, to me. I was waiting for the Pinnacle to Buff Bagwell him, especially after he was the one that lost the Stadium Stampede match. Maybe they'll still do it, but I think the concept of the Pinnacle might be done.
Especially since I think Wardlow may be MJF's next big feud. |
AlexKzillion
09.08.21 | Yeah I'm interested to see how long it'll be until they let Wardlow off MJF's leash. Dude totally has a Batista-like face turn in him, but I'm not sure if he can stand on his own yet without being with/feuding with MJF. Don't think he's really as charismatic as Batista based on the few times we've seen him talk, and don't think he's as good of a wrestler either though Batista was far more experienced than Wardlow by the time he was on TV so that's not really fair. |
LunaticSoul
09.08.21 | I have no effin idea how AEW is gonna play out these few months. I know 100% the Page title win is the closing moment of Full Gear, unless plans fall for something. I am very interested in seeing the fall out as I think some feuds were finally finished yesterday after the covid-19 drag, and we should see some more stuff come up. A Danielson/Jungle Boy/Christian trio match v the Elite or even another 5 v 5 elimination as a main event at Arthur Ashe would be very cool. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.08.21 | eh, i don't like the idea of a trios match with the bucks and kenny being any kind of headline feature. have seen 50 of those matches in the last years. i like how tony has been handling them with it being once in a while. I also like how tony has relied less and less on trios matches since the inception of aew. his talents as a booker have grown tremendously |
AlexKzillion
09.08.21 | yeah I really hope they don't adopt trios belts... would be hella lame
If anything they need to add a dark belt of some sort |
Storm In A Teacup
09.08.21 | ya that's what i keep saying. A Dark Championship with the phrasing that it earns you 5 minutes tv time on dynamite or rampage, or gives you the right to have a match on tv when you normally wouldn't or the right to cash in the dark championship for a tnt championship match or whatever |
Divaman
09.08.21 | I like it. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.09.21 | wow the commentary really bombed the first couple minutes tonight |
Divaman
09.09.21 | Excalibur is underrated. |
Divaman
09.09.21 | I don't know. Lately, I just haven't been feeling Dynamite. I think it's me. |
rufinthefury
09.09.21 | I expected a lot more from this episode of Dynamite. This is the follow up to your highest selling PPV ever? A 10 minute main event was way way way too fast for Suzuki v Mox, cmon. Didn't even get to hear Kaze Ni Nare all the way. But they had time for Dan Lambert to cut the same exact promo he cut a week ago? Get outta here.
Excalibur was sorely missed on commentary too. Commentary was pretty bungled tonight. |
LunaticSoul
09.09.21 | I am SO pissed for the kaze ni nare cut I could not focus on the main event lol
They need to become so much better at time management and pacing, because every goddamn time the main event gets cut and it never should happen lol |
LunaticSoul
09.09.21 | JR Taz and Schiavone have like 120 years of wrestling experience in three and they all called a spinebuster a powerbomb |
Divaman
09.09.21 | The only thing I thought was really good was the MJF promo. |
LunaticSoul
09.09.21 | I loved the Bryan Danielson "anti promo"
Suzuki bleeding straight made the 6-min length very believable (I have not seen Minoru bleed in years and years)
Adam Cole bullying Schiavone for mirin´ Britt made me choke (also Britt had Nike sneakers. She is 100% teasing a Elite entry. We need more women in these factions).
Both Miro and the Lucha Bros videos were very hype
JR being called "Schiavone´s mom favourite ref" made me also choke
Punk´s wholesome moment with Linda Pillman was also very heartwarming
Dark Order´s in-fighting also is quite entertaining but goddamn if this does not bring to Page´s full Gear and group hug I can say I will be disappointed. that story needs to happen man
Also the matches were quite unlucky, Dustin very off his game imho and quite unlucky on that black mass (he is a tall dude and I have seen Black missing out on big dudes for a long time. He should just have them fall to their knees and black mass them like that. also way better imagery), Hobbs got blatantly concussed on that Dante dive. Jamie Hayter looked fantastic for 5 mins playing the crowd and then got very emotional and botched a bit when they went back live?
But I mean, I still give the show a 3.25 stars lol. But after All Out I really wanted a 5 star thing to follow up. |
LunaticSoul
09.09.21 | in all notes, I have a Minoru poster signed by the man himself at his shop in Harajuku, the day after WK12. I just randomly checked the store and holy shit he was the cashier ahahahah I swear it was very an absurd moment to see one of the toughest dudes in pro-wrasslin´ being a cashier in Tokyo. took a photo with him, and thanked him for being a badass |
Divaman
09.09.21 | Here's the downside of the forbidden door, though. Not everyone in the U.S. watches or pays attention to Japanese wrestling. When I first started watching AEW, it took me a little while to get into it until I started to get to know the players. For someone like me, it's like, "Oh look, here's Moxley working some legendary Japanese wrestler that I don't know. And here he is working with another Japanese legend that I don't know. And now here's Archer working with a Japanese legend that I don't know. Meh." |
LunaticSoul
09.09.21 | I remember when I was a kid and they did AJ Styles vs Tanahashi, and I was all like "wtf he´s this guy?" so I get you
But it gives some legitimacy and when we get the very BIG fishes as in Naito/Okada/Ibushi, you will see people legitimately going mental. Okada at All In got a mega pop (and why wouldn´t he). So did Ibushi.
I mean, if you have never seen the WK11 to WK13 stretch of Omega. . . You are missing out on the best wrestling that has ever been in my opinion. The Okada feud is a legend for a veeeeery good reason. I actually got very back into wrestling thanks to the hype of their WK11 bout.
|
JeetJeet
09.09.21 | Look man...its awesome that Bryan's in AEW and is gonna feud with Omega...but I need Adam Page to win the title. I need that shit. |
Divaman
09.09.21 | Bleacher Report only gave out three A's last night. One was for the MJF promo. The other two were for the CM Punk Promo and the Bryan Danielson promo. I thought the first was deserved, although they rightly pointed out that he might have gone a little over the edge, and that Tony Khan would probably be fielding phone calls from TNT today. As for the other two, while I feel they were OK, to me, giving them A's just feels like BR was kissing ass just because it was CM Punk and Bryan Danielson. |
rufinthefury
09.09.21 | yall see that WWE's plan for Adam Cole was to have him be a non-wrestling manager for Keith Lee? I hope to god thats a fake rumor for WWE fan's sake lmao |
0GuyMan0
09.09.21 | I really don't like the Danielson has gone straight to omega. They don't need to put him over, and Danielson shouldn't start with a loss or derailing Hangman's destiny. He HAS to be the one to beat Kenny. There is no other way. |
Divaman
09.10.21 | At least they gave us a break from Danny Garcia and 2.0 last night. |
LunaticSoul
09.10.21 | "I really don't like the Danielson has gone straight to omega. They don't need to put him over, and Danielson shouldn't start with a loss or derailing Hangman's destiny. He HAS to be the one to beat Kenny. There is no other way."
Full Gear is in November and they have one of the biggest shows in the history of Dynamite end of September. Danielson v Kenny is a money maker, and they can do a screwy Elite finish and keep Danielson strong in front of their home crowd.
OR - Imagine a Page comeback backed by Danielson. That would be like aaaaaa major rub.
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Anyway, Suzuki has been called back for another match and they are doing a story over the fact that he got mistreated yesterday LOL. Thank fuck this company listens. |
AlexKzillion
09.10.21 | Finally got to watch this week's dynamite this morning, I seem to have liked it a bit more than most you guys. Finally got some fresh feuds going again |
AlexKzillion
09.10.21 | "I really don't like the Danielson has gone straight to omega. They don't need to put him over, and Danielson shouldn't start with a loss or derailing Hangman's destiny."
I think Danielson would be fine if he lost to Kenny..... though the fact that he seems to be getting a title shot so quickly undermines their ranking system quite a bit. At least Soho won the battle royale to get her title shot. |
Divaman
09.10.21 | I guess the first show after a ppv is always a little - I don't know if "tepid" would be the right word, but you know what I mean. They're starting up a bunch of new storylines.
Looking forward to Rampage tonight. |
AlexKzillion
09.10.21 | Man I hope they give Pac/Andrade like half the show and treat it like the ppv match it was supposed to be. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.10.21 | I think they should get at least a 15 minute match not counting entrances, but I have been day dreaming the last two or three days about their match opening and closing Rampage tonight and the potential buzz and excitement it would create. |
Minushuman24
09.10.21 | I need to get on this brand more, god damn |
Storm In A Teacup
09.10.21 | Yup minush 😊 |
rufinthefury
09.10.21 | Andrade vs Pac should be amazing |
Storm In A Teacup
09.10.21 | They have 3 matches and 3 additional segments/interviews scheduled Rampage. 🤔 pac vs Andrade is gonna be screwed unless they have the match go on first and say they ran out of time for other stuff.... |
rufinthefury
09.10.21 | This Rampage isn't live I think it was recorded same time as Dynamite yesterday. Reports are saying the match is good (I haven't spoiled the endings to anything for myself just reading the general good vibes) so I have faith it's at least 10-15 minutes. |
AlexKzillion
09.10.21 | It's an interesting matchup in that I feel like neither can afford to lose. Pac is amazing but I swear it feels like he loses every TV/ppv he's involved in, and all these new signings + the fact that he hasn't really done anything has greatly diminished Andrade imo. |
LunaticSoul
09.10.21 | Match went like 20 minutes and people said it was a banger (shocked Pikachu face). |
0GuyMan0
09.10.21 | I just...I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for Hangman to get a push from Bryan or anyone else. Even in the little documentary from before the first All In he was identified as THE GUY. I just really want him to get all the way there without anyone's help to complete the story. I'm 100% sure I read into it too much, but I see his getting WAY OVER the way he has, and realizing that championship destiny isn't only great for the storyline, but is also proof of concept that AEW can establish new superstars organically. |
rufinthefury
09.10.21 | yeah you're reading too far into this |
JeetJeet
09.10.21 | I completely agree with you GuyMan. The way I see it, if Omega is gonna drop the title to ANYBODY it should be Page. Not Bryan, not Punk, or Cole...but Page, the guy they've built up as Omega's rival since before these guys debuted. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.11.21 | Agree with you guyman my candiria loving brother. Hangman is the destination and we still get to see the journey. m/ |
Divaman
09.11.21 | So no surprise that the Pac vs Andrade El Idolo match was the match of the night. |
rufinthefury
09.11.21 | Yep, those 2 stole the show. Phenomenal stuff. Glad that Pillman Jr. is getting some singles shine I've always liked him.
JeetJeet/GuyMan I'm fairly confident DB is going to get derailed into an Adam Cole specific storyline or worst comes to worst DB just fights Omega without the title on the line (but I hope it doesnt even come to that). I have 0 doubt that Hangman will be the one to dethrone Omega. |
AlexKzillion
09.11.21 | ^^^agreed. Imo, no champion should ever wrestle a match without putting their belt on the line (unless it's a tag team match, or something other than 2v2 for the tag team champs). I especially hate the "you have to beat the champion to get a title shot" bullshit they pulled with the Bucks a couple months ago.
As for Pac/Andrade.... loved the match but HATED that ending. Pac got hit in the back with a paper-thin iPad and died cmon man at least have Andrade hit his finisher after |
LunaticSoul
09.11.21 | I think the iPad bump was pretty poorly made and they should not have made a replay off it, but the post match angle was very cool. Love that Andrade gives proud heel vibes, not happy with the cheating. Also anybody noticed he apologized to a kid? Like, heel but with honour.
That could be a very good character. |
LunaticSoul
09.11.21 | Other than that, Rampage is the best paced show. loved it so far. great sat morning routine |
AlexKzillion
09.11.21 | I'm hoping they have a rematch within the next couple weeks. Dudes could wrestle eachother every other week for all I care, their chemistry was great.
Shit they could even run an angle where in the rematch Alex Abrahantes comes out and causes a distraction which helps Pac win the match, but against Pac's wishes, and causes some dissension among death triangle. The matches give Pac and Andrade a new found respect for eachother, and they start teaming and winning and eventually challenge the Lucha Bros for their titles, but Pac feels sorta iffy about it? |
rufinthefury
09.11.21 | Pac/Andrade vs Lucha Bros would be godly |
SlothcoreSam
09.12.21 | Quick question,
Isn't Colt Cabana in AEW?
Did Punk and Colt ever sort their shit out?
Now that could be an intriguing storyline. |
rufinthefury
09.12.21 | Yes Colt Cobana is a part of Dark Order. There's so far been 0 information on if they've reconciled or not. |
bloc
09.12.21 | We need a lawyer on a pole match |
Divaman
09.14.21 | Watched Elevation tonight. I liked Lee Moriarty, the non-contract guy that lost to Garcia. |
rufinthefury
09.14.21 | Lee Moriarty is really good. More Skye Blue was nice too.
HUGE PROPS TO BIG E THOOO |
Divaman
09.14.21 | More Skye Blue was definitely nice. |
Divaman
09.15.21 | I wish they'd give KiLynn King more to do. They usually have her jobbing, and I'm not even 100% sure she has a contract. But she's one of their more impressive looking women. |
rufinthefury
09.15.21 | I'm just gonna use this as wrestling general thread cuz the WWE one is dead yeah?
So NXT 2.0. I watched some of it throughout the night, and it wasn't the worst thing ever but I really dislike the set design. The lighting is both too dark and blown out at the same time and their audience looks like a tiny high school gym, it legit looks less professional than the PC ever did. The Vince influence is already showing with KOR being taken out in favor of a dude who was 6' plus, but it's not all doom and gloom with the new champion being who he is. I liked Bron in the opening match who apparently is a Steiner |
Divaman
09.15.21 | I don't even know any of the WWE guys anymore. I tried to tune back into WWE after Bruno died in 2018, and I just found it unwatchable, to the point where I don't think I'll watch them again until Vince dies.
Right now, though, I'm up late watching this week's AEW podcast with Fuego del Sol. |
AlexKzillion
09.15.21 | NXT is something I never got into despite hearing it's been easily the best American wrestling show the past 6-7 years... or at least pre-AEW. Feel sad for all the fans watching Vince slowly crumble it into trash like his main shows.
Tbh Roman and the bloodline might be the best thing going in wrestling period right now... like holy shit I would never miss a Smackdown if everything outside the Roman-verse wasn't so terribly booked. Both Smackdown and Raw have tons of people I'd love to watch if they weren't being made to do such stupid shit all the time. |
rufinthefury
09.15.21 | Yeah if you've never watched NXT you've missed out on some of the best North American wrestling of the 2010s. At one point it was the single best wrestling show in the world imo. Just off the top of my head, The Revival vs DIY vs Authors of Pain, Sami Zayn vs Adrian Neville (now PAC), Sami Zayn vs Shinsuke Nakamura, Sasha Banks vs Bayley, Asuka vs Ember Moon, Samoa Joe vs Finn Balor, they gave us The Shield and The New Day and The Wyatt Family, etc.
It's not worth getting into now since they're literally using at least 2/3rds new names as of last night and it's going to be WWE Main Roster-Lite now as opposed to Indie Show Under WWE, but man. The glory days were fucking GLORIOUS. |
0GuyMan0
09.15.21 | Agreed on Roman and the Bloodline. He's got that final boss presence now, and he's knocking it out of the park. And holy fuck Paul Heyman has cemented himself as the best promo in....wrestling history? I honestly don't think anybody has ever done it better. He's got instant chemistry with everyone he works with - I'm loving his stuff with Kayla popping up out of nowhere. |
rufinthefury
09.16.21 | Oh shit Bryan Danielson v Omega without the belt on the line LFG |
Divaman
09.16.21 | Yep. Looking forward to that one. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.16.21 | Hm, this could be a way to have a legit, good one on one match between the two, set Bryan up as a contender, give enough time for hangman to return, and setup a triple threat match between the three at full gear? |
Storm In A Teacup
09.16.21 | There are about 7 episodes maybe 8 of dynamite before the next Ppv...seems like a good timeline.... |
bloc
09.16.21 | That BD/Omega match definitely ending in shenanigans |
Divaman
09.16.21 | Wasn't a bad episode of Dynamite last night. Once again, though, they stuck us w/2.0 as a main event. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.16.21 | I can't believe Adam Cole vs The Elite Hunter wasn't the maim event |
Divaman
09.16.21 | That was a really good match. I'm sure Tony Khan was really considering the post-main-event brawl between Moxley and Kingston vs. Minoru Suzuki and Lance Archer to be the real main event. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | If the Suzuki entrance was a planned storyline and not bad time management this company is more brilliant than I thought. 🎶 Kaze ni nareeee!!!!! 🎶 |
Divaman
09.17.21 | No, my understanding is this week was their way of making the best out of blowing it last week. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | Which means Minoru probably did feel disrespected |
Divaman
09.17.21 | Maybe. Again, I never even heard of Minoru until last week, so I just can't get too broken up about his music. If anything, he should have felt more disrespected about the way Moxley screwed up his eye. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | Minoru made his name going 7-0 when he was young as a pro wrestler and at pro wrestling shows had legit shoot matches with the winner legitimately winning the match. He has made a few people tap out in real matches by using an armbar. He is too old now to have the matches be real contests but mma fans in America who are also wrestling fans and followed the history of Japanese mma shoot wrestling know of him. It's why so many people sang kaze ni nare at All Out. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | If anything minoru loves what happened to his eye and that's why him and moxley have worked so well together for a couple years now. This feud is one of the longest current wrestling feuds |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | For clarity, that 7-0 in pro wrestling was all real wins. He went out there and won all 7 with his opponents trying to be the winner. |
rufinthefury
09.17.21 | Emi Sakura asked Minoru about the Suzuki Incident and he had no idea what she was talking about. Minoru didn't seem to care about his music being cut off lol but hey way to turn it into a storyline cuz the fans sure cared |
Divaman
09.17.21 | That's what I figured. Minoru is getting exposed to a whole new audience of American fans, some of whom were familiar to him, but many of whom weren't. What does he care if they accidentally cut off his music. |
LunaticSoul
09.17.21 | Maybe. Again, I never even heard of Minoru until last week, so I just can't get too broken up about his music. If anything, he should have felt more disrespected about the way Moxley screwed up his eye.
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Minoru is a MMA-trained guy, that had legit shoot fights, he´s called king of Pancrase for a reason. a badass. iconic look. He´s even on fucking One Piece ahah. I think he´s one of my all-time favourites. Maybe also because he´s super down to earth when I met him, he was a very sweet guy. (see them cutting kaze ni nare and him brushing it off).
Can we talk about how one of the weakest on-paper cards of dynamite ever was pure fire? I even appreciated the Lambert segment this time lol |
Divaman
09.17.21 | There was definitely a lot of fighting through the crowds, table shots, etc. And of course, another MJF promo, talking to Brian Sr. in hell. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | Damn i need to watch when i have time. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | I just love minorus song so much i always sing kaze ni nareeee even at random times of the day when not jamming the song lol |
Divaman
09.17.21 | Well, him and Archer are teaming up against Moxley and Kingston for real, I think on next week's Dynamite. (It's sort of in my neighborhood, but I'll be watching on TV.) |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | The way Suzuki walks out nowadays is like a man who has done and seen it all and has all the confidence in the world. Love it. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.17.21 | I hope the pandemic gets better and AEW can do a show in Japan |
Clumseee
09.17.21 | Of the big burger chains in Canada, A&W is DEF the best. That papa slaps. |
Motiv3
09.17.21 | "The Suzuki incident" was a great thing to happen as we now get more of Minoru on our screens. That's a big plus for me! |
rufinthefury
09.17.21 | Speaking of incidents, yall see Dark Side of the Ring's new Plane Ride From Hell episode? It's on YouTube for free in full. Ric Flair and Tommy Dreamer are both in the pits, but really what an indictment of that entire carny rapey generation. TK better delete Ric's number |
LunaticSoul
09.17.21 | Holy shit it's on YT? watching this now lol
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AlexKzillion
09.17.21 | Haha just finished DSOTR... yeah don't think we will be seeing Ric in AEW any time soon lmao. If I were to guess it's prob the real reason why WWE let him go.
As for dynamite, I let out an audible grown when Jericho came out lmao, The FTR match was awesome though, as was Punk and Team Taz interacting. Think Brian Pillman Jr is really starting to shine too. |
Divaman
09.17.21 | Guys, Flair is 72yo now. He's certainly not going to be an active wrestler. And I don't think the plane ride from hell had anything to with WWE letting him know. That stuff was known for years. |
rufinthefury
09.17.21 | Ric Flair wasnt gonna actively wrestle but he was absolutely considered to be Andrade's new manager, shit they might even still do it.
Flair was not fired from WWE cuz of this Plane Ride From Hell shit lmfao WWE made an animation NARRATED BY RIC about this shit as a jovial event on their own Network a few years back. Vince didn't give af about this |
AlexKzillion
09.17.21 | I mean it was rumored for sure, but it had never been the centerpiece of an episode of a highly rated docuseries watched by both wrestling fans and non-fans alike in which the alleged victim tells her story in detail... in 2021 no less when this shit is actually taken seriously.
And yeah he's not an active wrestler but he absolutely was (and still could be) showing up in AEW sooner than later. In fact that's prob where they were going with that Chavo angle last week, eventually bringing him in as Andrade's manager. Hell Ric even cut a promo at that all womens NWA event weeks ago, and even figure-foured Konnan at that Kenny/Andrade AAA match like last month. Dude obv still wants to be in wrestling and in the public eye even if he can't actually wrestle anymore. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | He'll probably still join AEW if Tony Khan feels he's together enough and not totally addle-brained that he won't get in trouble and embarrass AEW now. He was hanging around AEW recently the weekend of the PPV, and even showed up briefly on a couple the vlogs.
I'd like to say that AEW isn't going to consider an incident that happened 19 years ago as an impediment to anything they might be going to do with Flair today, but apparently Tommy Dreamer just got suspended from Impact for sticking up for Flair, so who knows? |
rufinthefury
09.18.21 | It's not as if this is the only Flair incident, we been known that Flair is an obnoxious drunken sex pest for decades. The question is whether or not this documentary catches enough attention for people to not overlook his character flaws anymore. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | If he still is, fine. If that kind of behavior isn't going on anymore, I'd have no trouble w/AEW having him do stuff. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | I mean... Jim Ross literally got fired for not controlling Flair lol |
Divaman
09.18.21 | I somehow haven't gotten to that story yet. I listen to a lot of clips of the Grilling JR podcasts on YouTube, but they're all out of order, so I'm a little like Billy Pilgrim regarding JR's timeline. I've seen the clip come up on my feed a few times about JR's ultimate firing, but for whatever reason, I have clicked on it yet. One of these days. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | You need me to show you the right video. The whole thing was captured on video and is actually really entertaining |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | https://youtu.be/7h1KvovmEqY
Here is the 8 minute condensed version which highlights the general out of control nature of the press conference and highlights the best parts. My favorite is when JR asks Daniel Bryan to save his ass and Bryan responds, “I genuinely feel like I don’t belong here”, the reaction after is great. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | 2K thought the press conference was fantastic and tried to tell wwe they were happy with JR, didn’t matter. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | Nice finish tonight. I won't spoil it for those who haven't watched Rampage yet, but I was hoping that's where they were going with this. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | Gonna watch it in the morning! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | The highlights don’t do it justice. Basically anytime JR tried to go to other people on stage Flair interrupted and got excited about a new story he wanted to tell. Wwe wanted sound bites related to the video game, didn’t happen. Lol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | Also not in the short video Flair made a comment about how John Cena can drink 30 beers in the car if they are driving for 5 hours to a show. This was in 2013 so Vince himself probably didn’t like his top face being described by a wwe official like that ... meh ... |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | https://youtu.be/Z9PL9Zfrzo0
This is the best video of the press conference hands down |
Divaman
09.18.21 | I did hear JR say on Grilling JR that someone had written that he and Flair had been drinking together all day, and they indicated the JR was drunk on stage. JR himself claimed that he'd had one drink, but that his obvious slurring onstage that night was related to his Bell's Palsy. He said that often when he's tired, and it's later in the day, he has more trouble speaking clearly. I don't know how I feel about that. I guess I neither believe him nor disbelieve him. |
rufinthefury
09.18.21 | Ruby and Britt's promo segment was phenomenal |
Divaman
09.18.21 | Yeah, I agree. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | I dont even notice JR slurring but his drink in his hand seemed alcoholic tho it was never replaced with a new one |
LunaticSoul
09.18.21 | "I'd like to say that AEW isn't going to consider an incident that happened 19 years ago as an impediment to anything they might be going to do with Flair today, but apparently Tommy Dreamer just got suspended from Impact for sticking up for Flair, so who knows?"
Tommy Dreamer got fired for saying that it was fine to harass flight attendants and compared it to his fucking haircut. He normalized sexual assault and said it was fine to do it in the 90s/00s (no it was not, you fucking dickhead).
That was a fucking dumb take man. What a fucking idiotic hill to die on.
Same with RvD. He pretty much admitted to raping multiple girls on a recorded piece (!!!) like how dumb can you be. . . |
LunaticSoul
09.18.21 | No chance Flair pops up now lol. They very much dodged a bullet and if a contract was signed, it's been scrapped already.
Flair is pretty much useless and harmful right now and you don't want any of that. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | Like I said, if Flair is in control right now, it wouldn't bother me in the least. And I think it would be the same for most of the AEW audience. |
AlexKzillion
09.18.21 | "Same with RvD. He pretty much admitted to raping multiple girls on a recorded piece (!!!) like how dumb can you be. . ."
Nah RVD said that that was a thing the guys did rather frequently back then, but he def didn't say HE was doing it and he seemed rather disgusted describing it. This was easily the worst/grossest revelation of the doc for sure though.
Tbh it fucking floors me that these guys did that... like yall are some of the most jacked and good looking and famous dudes in the world there's absolutely no reason you need to resort to that shit. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | Yeah no chance for Flair in AEW and seems rather obvious the AEW audience would not like him coming now. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.18.21 | And yeah RVD is a good dude I believe. He has seen all the bad in the business and has always had to fight against the bs and managed to create a great legacy that people still try to shit on. RVD is a goat and one of the better people. |
BallsToTheWall
09.18.21 | Meanwhile I’m just thinking how random it was for Rosario Dawson to show up to Aew and attack Malachi. |
AlexKzillion
09.18.21 | I completely forgot about that. Malakai needs to get out of the Cody-verse ASAP there's no reason for this bullshit.
Like imagine Kate Winslet taunting and jumping on MoD Undertaker's back back in the day. Malakai is just not a character who should be associated with that celebrity crossover shit whatsoever... totally puts a damper on his mystique |
BallsToTheWall
09.18.21 | Agreed. Love the dude, his aesthetic, his move set, fuckin walked out to Amenra. I just wish the best for him. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | >seems rather obvious the AEW audience would not like him coming now.
Where do you get that from? Really, I don't think the majority of the AEW audience would have a problem. Flair is in the upper stratosphere of wrestling legends. I can't imagine an episode of Dark Side of the Ring would impact that. At least if his behavior is under control right now, which I don't know. |
AlexKzillion
09.18.21 | Just finished Rampage. Ruby Soho is so great man. Also not sure anyone can put on a better squash match than Miro and Fuego right now. Excited to see Sammy take on Miro soon by the looks of it. Every Sammy match is a banger but the dude only seems to wrestle like once a month if that |
Divaman
09.18.21 | Yeah, the Britt/Ruby promo was really good, as was the Miro/Fuego match w/the Sammy angle. My only problem with it is I'm conflicted. I'm completely behind Sammy taking the TNT title - it's time for him to have a belt - and at the same time, I'm not ready for Miro to lose the belt. |
rufinthefury
09.18.21 | >Where do you get that from?
Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and my personal opinion that I don't wanna see wrinkly Ric Flair anyways really. The only reason I wanted him in AEW was for the draw that "big name Ric Flair is here" gives, I never actually wanted Flair. The man speaks in marbles these days, hes not the same performer he used to be. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | My guess is the majority of AEW fans aren't particularly active on Twitter, Reddit or Discord. I guess if Khan ever brings him in, we'll see what the fan reaction is. I suspect it would be much more positive than negative, but we'll find out. (Or not, if Khan doesn't think the upside is worth the downside, or if he and Flair can't agree on terms.) |
AlexKzillion
09.18.21 | "My guess is the majority of AEW fans aren't particularly active on Twitter, Reddit"
r/squaredcircle is basically an AEW subreddit at this point lol
I think Flair showing up on Dynamite in the next month or so would go over about as well as Hogan hosting Wrestlemania this year. He'd prob fair much better going back to WWE even where the live audience is a bit more casual. The AEW crowd would eat him alive I think. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | I'm not saying there aren't AEW fans on Twitter and Reddit. I'm saying that people who are very active on Twitter and Reddit in general aren't particularly representative of the population as a whole, for AEW or anything else. Anyway, like I said, you guys have one theory, I have another. The only way we'll find out which is correct will be if Khan and Flair come together. |
rufinthefury
09.18.21 | When I was at one of the Chicago shows (I think All Out) there were chants of "we want Tessa (Blanchard)" which got drowned out immediately with loud "NO WE DONT" chants. I'm with Alex, Flair wouldn't be wanted by the crowd rn. |
Divaman
09.18.21 | Did you guys note that during the Ruby/Britt promo last night, at one point, Ruby said something (can't remember what it was right now) and Britt had to struggle to keep a straight face?
There were also a few good lines thrown out there by the announcing team during the Miro/Fuego match. One of my favorites was when Miro broke a hold that Fuego had on him from behind, and someone (don't remember if it was Jericho or Starks) said it was as easy as opening a seat belt. |
rufinthefury
09.18.21 | Oh yeah Britt damn near totally broke lol
Speaking of great Miro lines, that one to Fuego about "you are putting your neck against a blade that already spared you once" was siiiiiiick. That's a bar |
LunaticSoul
09.18.21 | That Fuego Miro match had no reason to be that good and it was a banger |
LunaticSoul
09.18.21 | Yea that Ruby/Britt promo was true good
Also loved the lucha bros match finish
Again Rampage delivering |
LunaticSoul
09.18.21 | I am also amongst the very few who enjoyed the best man Miro version but this is 5 times better. It's just kip that's very lame and just not anything more than a low card guy. Always has been |
Divaman
09.18.21 | You're exactly right, that was the problem with that story from the beginning - Miro and Kip are on two very different levels, and it didn't really make sense that Miro would be aligned with him. Although I have been kind of hoping that Kip was going to come back and take his revenge by interfering in one of Miro's matches (and maybe even cause him to lose the TNT belt), and this would result in Miro just killing Kip on the following show. |
rufinthefury
09.19.21 | I'm so happy for Miro |
rufinthefury
09.19.21 | Dude started great in WWE then became a joke, and then was still kind of a joke when he came into AEW as the best man, but now hed back to being the awesome monster he should be. I cant lie i was worried he would lean too far into being a funny guy because he's naturally a jokester and the video game shit with Kip seemed like a twitch tie in for him, but man he proved me wrong. He knows what we want. |
Divaman
09.19.21 | I'm kind of pissed that they haven't used him often enough as TNT champ. He's got some of the best crazy eyes in the business, and this "God's Favorite Champion" angle has been gold. |
rufinthefury
09.19.21 | If we could just fast forward time to Wednesday that would be awesome |
Divaman
09.19.21 | Heh. |
AlexKzillion
09.20.21 | Wish I was able to watch dynamite live every week. Typically can't catch it until Thursday or even Friday. I do like that it stops me from checking twitter and stuff out of fear of seeing spoilers |
Storm In A Teacup
09.20.21 | Some new arena in new york has wwe then two days later aew. When meltzer reported last wwe sold like 2800 ticksts and aew had so far sold like 6200 tickets |
Divaman
09.20.21 | Yeah, that would be the new place near Belmont Raceway that the Islanders hockey team is moving to. |
rufinthefury
09.20.21 | Have I ranted about Meltzer in here yet? Long story short, fuck that guy. He's good for knowing the hard numbers about ratings and whatnot and nothing else. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.20.21 | Agreed rufin, he has lost his mind or his ego is tripping hard, or he has become an ass, or all 3, we have disagreed a lot over the years on wrestling, you and I, but it seems in 2021 we are fairly similar in taste and opinion. |
rufinthefury
09.20.21 | Meltzer lost me when he started riding so openly hard for AEW. And I'm obviously an AEW mark, but god damn I know when I'm being pondered to. Meltzer for a while was downplaying Bad Bunny and Indian viewers in an openly racist way just to make WWE seem like it wasn't doing well compared to AEW which was just idiotic. So Meltzer is in the same boat as Cornette to me: phenomenal wrestling historian but completely useless for contemporary reports. |
Divaman
09.20.21 | I never read Meltzer anyway. The only way I ever hear what's he's up to is secondhand. |
rufinthefury
09.21.21 | Arthur Ashe Stadium just opened up more seating to bring the total from about 17k to 20k in attendance. For comparison, Full Gear in 2019 only drew 8500 people in person. Largest AEW crowd to date gonna be there to watch Bryan v Omega, good lord. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.21.21 | Nice. 20K now, 80K within 4 years |
Divaman
09.23.21 | Quite a show tonight. I won't drop any spoilers, because I know some of you won't see it until tomorrow morning, but damn! |
rufinthefury
09.23.21 | That might be the best Dynamite episode ever |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.21 | Finished the show an hour ago…. …. ….. Damn!
And when I say damn I mean…
D.M.D! She’s a champ with or without a title. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.21 | Omega vs Bryan felt like it only went 15 minutes….double damn! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.21 | They definitely went with the Rampage pace tonight. Shouldn’t always do that but….they definitely should have tonight… |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.21 | Britt Baker and Ruby Soho just became official after tonight if there was ever any doubt before there surely isn’t any now. |
rufinthefury
09.23.21 | This was the last episode I got to watch with all the fellas hanging out in one place before I move outta state in a couple days, and what a great one to end on |
Divaman
09.23.21 | Agreed. They nailed it last night. |
Divaman
09.23.21 | On a completely different note, I started reading J.R.'s book Under the Black Hat last night after Dynamite and couldn't put it down. I actually read the whole thing in one sitting.
Vince is such a prick. |
LunaticSoul
09.23.21 | Omega vs Bryan felt like it only went 15 minutes….double damn!
Damn if it wasn't true. I really thought they stopped the match at 20 mins, and instead it was 30 already. hot damn
Also this Cody heel turn mmmmmm I love the booking. Like he got booed out of the palace yesterday
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Divaman
09.23.21 | I was really glad that they didn't have Cody win. That was smart.
Kind of a bummer that Brandy was back, though. :) |
SlothcoreSam
09.23.21 | Just finished watching the show and really enjoyed the matches.
However, what I didn't like, was the lack of follow up on any of them.
For example after Omega/Bryan match, there was no other mention about it during the rest of the show. No replays, no recaps, no interviews with either of the wrestlers or their factions, none of the commentators mentioning it, or explaining what does the time limit draw mean going forward, or what's next for these two, nothing.
For the casual wrestling fan, or someone not familiar with the AEW brand checking out the show, the lack of an explanation after the match is a missed opportunity.
And it wasn't just this match, pretty much every match on the card, was a done deal, with no follow up or hype afterward.
The show was great but felt more like a pay per view and an add for Rampage than a weekly TV show.
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rufinthefury
09.23.21 | 1.27 million viewers last night. I believe that makes 5 weeks in a row of over a million viewers. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.24.21 | Still waiting for Dark Side of the Ring: Steve Austin. So weird that CM Punk called Stone Cold a better person than Hulk Hogan just yesterday. |
Divaman
09.24.21 | Punk has also said that Hulk Hogan was a "piece of shit," I think. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.24.21 | Yeah he did. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.24.21 | https://youtu.be/nz0T1IVtyM8
Video is MJFs parents at All Out apologizing for their son existing. |
Divaman
09.24.21 | That's funny stuff. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.24.21 | 🎶 KAZE NI NAREEEEEE 🎶 |
ExhaleTheLight
09.24.21 | Wonder when they’re gonna try to extend Rampage. There’s already many stars lost in the shuffle not doing much. |
AlexKzillion
09.24.21 | Finally finished dynamite... what a fucking banger of an episode. I cringed so hard when Omega hit Danielson with the snap dragon on the ramp goddamn that looked nasty with Bryan twitching and all. Then Danielson stomping Kenny's head in towards the end holy shit that was awesome.
As for the other matches, Brian Pillman Jr looked really good against MJF and has a lot of potential. FTR bumping like absolute hell for Sting was awesome. Britt is def getting better and better every match and Tony's totally non-biased commentary during her matches is hilarious.
Only dud was Cody/Malakai... just an absolutely overbooked mess with Cody and Brandi (sigh) getting booed out the building. Looks like they're at least responding to the negative Cody reactions and teasing a heel turn. Interested to see where this may go. |
AlexKzillion
09.24.21 | "However, what I didn't like, was the lack of follow up on any of them.
For example after Omega/Bryan match, there was no other mention about it during the rest of the show. No replays, no recaps, no interviews with either of the wrestlers or their factions, none of the commentators mentioning it, or explaining what does the time limit draw mean going forward, or what's next for these two, nothing."
While I didn't mind it so much for this episode since it was a ppv-level card... I think this is absolutely the biggest problem with dynamite and one of the few things I think WWE still does a lot better than them. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | ...well...fuck...Rampage was nuts...Tony Khan used over 50 wrestlers for the show tonight......what the fuck did i just see...magic... |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | @alex for me it is so fucking relieving to not deal with immediate follow ups and commentary going on about a replay. I was sick of that for so long in wwe. Hate it. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | They actually followed up on a few things that happened tonight on rampage tho. Jungle Boy vs Adam Cole is gonna be great |
rufinthefury
09.25.21 | I have a friend big mad at Mox's style of "garbage wrestling" and it pops me every time lol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | Over 50 wrestlers…on one show! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | Wwe has to do a rumble to figure out how to do that in 3 hours and Khan did it in 2 hours with no rumble. |
AlexKzillion
09.25.21 | All I wanna know is where the rest of the inner circle was when Jericho and Hager were getting their shit kicked in... seeing as both Santana/Oritz and Sammy all appeared later in the show lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
09.25.21 | They have kayfabe decided to stand on their own rather than be directly together. If they have to unite together they will but their characters are ready to see what they can do "alone" tho i do agree it was weird how 2 minutes later proud and powerful are making their entrance |
AlexKzillion
09.26.21 | Did they ever like..... explain that on TV though? Like I can kinda get it in regard to the pinnacle because they're heels who teamed up for the feud and then lost said feud but the inner circle? Feel like there should've def been some sort of segment on that.
I am glad they are doing it though... Sammy and PnP have been supremely underutilized despite how obviously talented they are basically ever since I started watching. |
Divaman
09.26.21 | Finally caught Rampage today. Hobbs gives good sneer. |
Divaman
09.26.21 | Rampage was OK, but I didn't like it quite as much as this week's Dynamite. My favorite part of the show was Miro absolutely laying Fuego and Sammy to waste. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.26.21 | Thought it was funny how Archer first lynched Mox and then after tied his hands up. |
LunaticSoul
09.26.21 | Yeah Dynamite this week was very next level. Gotta admit though both the 3v3 and 4v4 were cool. I also liked the Punk match but it was not Bryan Omega. But I mean. There is not many matches like that lol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.26.21 | 5/5 Dynamite 4.5/5 Rampage but Kaze Ni Nare kinda makes me wanna 5 |
LunaticSoul
09.26.21 | that Adam Cole bay bay was the loudest thing that I have ever heard on a AEW show |
rufinthefury
09.27.21 | Dunno if any of yall are interested but I have a tiny (as in 5 people) Discord where we talk wrasslin for every promotion, most AEW and WWE. If anyone wants to join ill shoot ya a link for it.
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rufinthefury
09.27.21 | Seth and Bray both wanting to kill Vince after their HIAC match is exactly what we all thought. God that was one of the single worst booking decisions of this whole era |
Divaman
09.27.21 | Advance word is Bray is signed w/AEW, although I don't know when he's set to premiere. |
AlexKzillion
09.27.21 | "Seth and Bray both wanting to kill Vince after their HIAC match is exactly what we all thought. God that was one of the single worst booking decisions of this whole era"
fucking hilarious this came out today considering the Roman/Finn finish tonight |
rufinthefury
09.27.21 | Man I don't keep up with WWE live anymore what happened? |
LunaticSoul
09.27.21 | They pulled one of the dumbest shit endings I have ever seen in a wrasslin ring
that company is really one good thing, ten thousand awful |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Yeah |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Tbh i always thought that they were lowing the quality of wrestling on purpose until they could grow a big movement but seems like they are just not good at being a good company |
AlexKzillion
09.27.21 | "Man I don't keep up with WWE live anymore what happened?"
Finn Balor last night: https://youtu.be/LAVUFKYdJNY?t=28 |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Lololololol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | He died during the match and his demonic powers slash entrance music revived him but the a top rope breaking randomly slash magically lets him eat a spear lololol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Hindsight says to me it was an obviously horrible decision for The Pinnacle to lose to Inner Circle when Inner Circles stable was on the line. What a horrible decision to not have Pinnacle win. It could have literally played out the same with the MJF and Jericho feud unfolding. Like…is this just Jericho on an ego trip or just bad creative? |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | The Pinnacle didn’t get any bigger during the second half of the Inner Circle feud. Did MJF even get any bigger during the second half of his feud with Jericho? Damn. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | And Sean Spears is a jobber more than ever, FTR are putting over Sting and Darby which is cool but … damn … after everything else they have done and everyone else they have put over? Orange Cassidy might be the only one to not lose momentum after working with Jericho. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Pinnacle need to take offense to the Elite existing or to Daniel Bryan and his Dinosaur friends and the Christian that’s been let out of his Cage existing and beat the shit out of someone ASAP |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Young Bucks need to put over FTR and I don’t care how it is done. Title or no title. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | They shouldn’t rush splitting up the Elite and do the superclik vs The Omega Brothers because we need them to work with other groups like Pinnacle. That would be a huge mistake to miss out on. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | I assume Peyton Royce and Billie are gonna debut soon but I feel like if they are a team Billie needs to be the more vocal one. Peyton is overrated as she is not very quick to think on her own feet in a promo situation and her wrestling isn’t top notch. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Also fantasy world right here but if Paul Heyman were unleashed on AEW tv everything would change, again. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Oops, I had coffee and thought about wrestling, lol |
0GuyMan0
09.27.21 | so much to respond to!
Paul Heyman might literally be the most effective force in professional wrestling, all things considered. Can't imagine an unleashed Heyman.
I agree, the pinnacle has been a joke since losing to the inner circle at DoN. Jericho has brought MJF waaaaay down, imo, and it's a testament to his scumminess that he gets such heat from his promos. I haven't given up hope - he's still a very protected wrestler, but I think it might be time to pull the trigger on Wardlow / MJF, let FTR go be the best tag team in wrestling, and Spears can...I don't even know. I don't think he's dead weight, he seems like a safe worker but he gets nothing from the crowd.
Are there rumors of Peyton and Billie beyond fan desire? I'd like it if they showed up I guess, personally I think that division needs more talent still and an established tag team would help.
I'm still wondering if Bray shows up as well. I honestly wish he'd roll it back with the swamp cult leader again, leave the supernatural behind. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.21 | Jon Mox confirmed recently on video the night Spears came out to be the Chairman he saw Spears pick the chair up and practice a shot with it and Jon said he raised his eyebrows and asked Spears what he was doing and Spears says “I’ve never used a gimmicked chair before” and Mox said “yeah I can tell” so Mox tried to teach him how to use it but still didn’t get it right and Mox says that’s why Cody bled so much. |
AlexKzillion
09.27.21 | Completely agree with all your Jericho/IC/Pinnacle takes storm. Jericho has as much go-away heat with me as anyone in AEW right now. And yes, MJF is worse off now. He's supposed to be the most conniving heel in AEW and was made to look like a fool by Jericho at every turn. The crash pad at blood and guts, goofy ass stadium stampede bumps, the "bubbly" truck, the fucking swirly, and then ofcourse Jericho going over at the PPV.
What makes it even worse is that Jericho believes it's one of the greatest wrestling angles of the 21st century per his twitter. |
0GuyMan0
09.27.21 | He's engages in hyperbole constantly since joining AEW. I'm still holding out that he's saying shit like "The Pinnacle feud is one of the best of the 21st century" or "Tonight I had one of the best matches of my career with Orange Cassidy" is purely promotional, because if it's not then he's literally deluded himself into thinking that his work now is on par with the ACTUAL classic shit he's done. And I don't like to think that. |
Divaman
09.27.21 | Supposedly, Bray will be taking over as the new leader of the Dark Order, playing a Fiend-like character. |
Divaman
09.27.21 | >And yes, MJF is worse off now. He's supposed to be the most conniving heel in AEW and was made to look like a fool by Jericho at every turn.
I don't actually agree with that. MJF still has more wins over Jericho than Jericho has over him. He threw him off a steel cage. Then, after making Jericho go through all those labors, in the last match of the labors of Jericho, he was even counted as the winner of this most recent match, and only lost after they had the do-over when Aubry was informed that Jericho's leg was on the rope. And last week, although Iknow Pillman isn't a top-level guy right now, MJF made him tap outs well. I don't think MJF has really lost any prestige. |
Divaman
09.27.21 | Spears didn't do himself any favors back when he had the match w/Dustin, and he let himself be de-pantsed, only to show everyone he was wearing underwear with a picture of Tully on them. Supposedly Blanchard explained to him that while that was a good laugh in the moment, it was the kind of thing that will make people take him less seriously as a heel. |
rufinthefury
09.28.21 | >Jon Mox confirmed recently on video the night Spears came out to be the Chairman...
Interesting to hear his side. I remember Cody talked about it on a podcast and mentioned how Mox specifically was one of many guys in the back lambasting Spears for the chairshot, but Cody says that he told Spears to swing it that way on purpose. Cody was "trying to bring headshots back for the boys" and his idea was that if they got a really gushy one it would be a good thing somehow? Idfk, Cody is kinda stupid. |
rufinthefury
09.28.21 | yo wheres the vid of Jon talking about it tho I cant find it |
0GuyMan0
09.28.21 | Cody is kinda stupid [22222222222222222]
Where is the "Supposedly, Bray will be taking over as the new leader of the Dark Order" thing coming from? I've seen no such report. I'd be interested to read it.
When he was released, Uno mocked everyone on Twitter for saying he should become Dark Order's new leader. IIRC Hangman said something similar, that -1 is the leader of the Dark order.
I also don't know how you could ever take them back to being what they tried under Brody after becoming the dorks we all know and love at this point. It wouldn't even begin to be believable. And personally, I really don't want a fiend-like character in AEW. Teleporting Matt Hardy was jarring enough, and they have gained a TON of momentum by playing things relatively straight. Focusing on the wrestling, rather than entertainment. |
Divaman
09.28.21 | >Where is the "Supposedly, Bray will be taking over as the new leader of the Dark Order" thing coming from? I've seen no such report. I'd be interested to read it.
I saw it mentioned on at least one of the YouTube channels (DestinationPW), and I don't remember what the other source was where there was a written reference to it last week.
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rufinthefury
09.28.21 | I fully expect Bray and Braun to appear in Impact. I don't see Bray in AEW and I don't think his style would mesh. Unless he wants to team up with Malakai I'd like that. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | Thought it was pretty much confirmed that Braun was going to ROH to be with his best friend and business partner EC3? |
AlexKzillion
09.28.21 | "Cody says that he told Spears to swing it that way on purpose. Cody was "trying to bring headshots back for the boys" and his idea was that if they got a really gushy one it would be a good thing somehow? Idfk, Cody is kinda stupid."
lmaoooooo |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | I’ve been trying to find the video Ruffin. I have deep dived into wrestling audio the last weeks. Just found it and I was wrong about just one part. Charlie is telling the story here about him and Mox reacting to Shawn Spears practicing with the chair. Story starts at 5 minutes and ends by 7 minute mark
https://youtu.be/AR9CXduLI-M
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ExhaleTheLight
09.28.21 | I personally was never the biggest fan of Bray. His matches were often boring and his promos always drifted. Wasn’t much of a fan of the fiend either. I can’t see the Dark Order being a threat anymore even if he comes back to round them up. They totally turned the group into a bro fraternity. There’s already an over saturated roster at moment.
Also is anyone else tired of Jericho’s fucking Judas entrance? Awful song, and the crowd singing it has worn off a long time ago. |
rufinthefury
09.28.21 | I really liked Bray Wyatt as both a character and wrestler, even when he lost his luster to an extent, but for some reason when he came back as The Fiend (which admittedly I haven't seen that much of) his wrestling seemed to just be shit. Like the no selling is what it is, but the matches were sloppy and never satisfying to watch. Dunno what happened to him |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | Only good singles Wyatt matches still had bad booking to end the match so he hasn’t had a good singles match that I know of. |
AlexKzillion
09.28.21 | I've actually never seen any Bray Wyatt match besides when Orton squashed him at the last mania lol |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | And that could barely be called a match lol |
JeetJeet
09.28.21 | Alex you missed out on the Wyatt Family v. Shield era.
And also Bray vs Bryan at Royal Rumble, amazing match. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | Yeah that’s what I remember are a lot of great trios matches with Bray |
0GuyMan0
09.28.21 | Bray is fine in the ring, and is physically imposing if they would bother to treat him as such. He stood a believable shot against Braun because he's so fucking huge, imo.
He's never been asked to work technical matches, and the story has always been the driving factor for him imo. Guy is an absurdly talented actor who I really don't think we've seen the true capabilities of.
I honestly think he'd highly overshadow Impact's roster. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | https://youtu.be/_9ossGv_MuE
In this new, less than 2 minute clip, Jericho says that they overdubbed tv episodes of dynamite to make it appear that the crowd sung his entrance twice as long as they really did to make people know to sing it longer, then talked about how what they are doing is organic 😂 |
0GuyMan0
09.28.21 | What a fucking joke, man.
That was a pretty cool thing the first time it happened. forcing the issue is SO FUCKING CRINGE. It's always something these days, man, whether it be manufacturing crowd involvement in his theme song (sometimes to great failure) or giving himself more nicknames. |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | And that’s why they did it because after the first time it was sung as Chris says in that video, they sung it only half as much. So basically they intentionally subliminally trained the audience. |
AlexKzillion
09.28.21 | "Alex you missed out on the Wyatt Family v. Shield era.
And also Bray vs Bryan at Royal Rumble, amazing match"
Will def check these on the cock this weekend |
Storm In A Teacup
09.28.21 | Haha |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | Dante Martin is soooooo fucking good. Just insane. |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | "You know what I do? I PULL OUT THE GLOCK"
IM DEEEAAAAAD LMFAOOO |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | WOWWWWW WOW WOW |
ExhaleTheLight
09.30.21 | I am already over AEW's use of CM Punk, they really had to waste 3 - 5 minutes of broadcast time tonight just to introduce him to commentary. |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | Night of excellent promos |
Storm In A Teacup
09.30.21 | Great episode last night, I was already half in the tank by the time I started so I’m wondering…was it just me or was that a ducking awful WWE brainwashed type of crowd last night? Please stop saying what?! Please shut the fuck up constantly chanting CM Punk. Lame crowd. |
Divaman
09.30.21 | I only saw the first match and the second half of the Sammy/Miro match. |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | It's Rochester which has only had WWE for a long time and isn't exactly smark central, so yeah we got What chants and CM Punk chants. It's annoying but I expect it lol not every city is gonna be Chicago. Plus everyone who got What chanted dealt with it excellently.
The CM Punk chants I could def do without tho, he was literally right there like wtf |
Divaman
09.30.21 | I heard "Yes" chants to Bryan Danielson, too. |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | Yes chants are fine and approved it seems. Poor Hager lol |
0GuyMan0
09.30.21 | I think you have to give the fans a CM Punk entrance in every city the first time AEW comes through, but if he's not on the program it should really be off broadcast. |
rufinthefury
09.30.21 | I agree yeah. JR always get an entrance at the live shows but they don't show it on TV you know. |
AlexKzillion
10.01.21 | I don't mind punk's entrance-to-commentaries at all tbh lol. JR pretty much gets to read off the entire card to the tune of Cult of Personality while the live crowd gets to mark out. |
AlexKzillion
10.01.21 | Thought this week's dynamite was really good. I am a bit disappointed Miro lost his title, but Sammy was prob the best guy he could have lost to. Really scared he'll be lost in the shuffle now though.
That Arn promo was legendary
MJF/Darby feud oh boy I'm so down
Also glad Scorpio Sky and Ethan Page got some promo time. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.01.21 | All the Arn glock memes are gold
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ExhaleTheLight
10.01.21 | Also not sure what was up, but Darby's promo suckeddd |
rufinthefury
10.01.21 | you're not gonna break him mentally Exhale |
AlexKzillion
10.01.21 | Haha yeah it started out strong and got worse and worse as it went on. |
Divaman
10.01.21 | In general, Darby doesn't talk very well. He's a maniac, and he makes good film clips, but in terms of just talking, that's the weakest part of his game. |
rufinthefury
10.01.21 | Yep. |
0GuyMan0
10.01.21 | I must be the only guy who can't stand Sammy. Pisses me off to no end that he ended Miro's run. If it was going to end, it should have been Eddie. |
rufinthefury
10.01.21 | You are entitled to your opinion I suppose. But yeah Sammy is great lmao I was surprised he won but im not mad |
AlexKzillion
10.01.21 | I'm thinking they may have some feud higher up on the card for Miro, or at least one would hope. I know apparently he had the second longest TNT title reign or whatever but I think it still had some left in the tank... especially compared to Darby's |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | I’m now a huge fan of Scorpio and Ethan in this Top Team gimmick, have always loved Scorpio for last 6 years I’ve followed him, but I think this could go somewhere amazing for him, also really like Ethan Page recently.
Gotta check the Arn memes lol
Yeah Darby sucks on mic, it’s nice that they advertised MJF, Jungle Boy, Darby, and Sammy as the future, but I think we all know the future for ten years includes a majority of Adam Page, Adam Cole, Andrade, Jack Perry, Brian Pillman JR, Dante Martin, Ethan Page, The Acclaimed etc. |
Divaman
10.01.21 | I'm glad Sammy now has a belt, but I'm sad that Miro's reign is over. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | It was all tastefully well done until they had Bobby Fish debut and now it’s Sammy vs Bobby for the title next week. That was just weird. You’d think it would be Rusev coming after Sammy instead of someone making their debut and getting an instant title shot. |
Divaman
10.01.21 | I don't love when newcomers get immediate title shots. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | Especially with how Tony recently reiterated that the TNT is a main event title not a mid card title. Bobby was posting Qanon and tagging Drake Warz in stuff less than 24 hours before appearing on Rhodes to the Top and getting a title shot. Lmaoooooo |
AlexKzillion
10.01.21 | Wait who tf is bobby fish what |
Divaman
10.01.21 | Excellent question. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | He was one of Adam Coles stablemates in The Undisputed Era, was let go as soon as Undisputed Era broke up. Is one of the more criticized wrestlers politically because he pushes conspiracy theories and Qanon and is friends with Drake Wurz. He is okay as a wrestler but kind of old. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | 2 time nxt tag champ with undisputed era with Kyle o reily. Has had a couple classic matches I’ve heard |
Storm In A Teacup
10.01.21 | Lol at Sammy getting offended that Bobby would challenge him on social media without a contract so Sammy accepts. Feels like that should have ended with a question mark lol |
0GuyMan0
10.01.21 | AEW does so many things right, but then they do shit like this with Bobby Fish or have Miro fuck around with Fuego del Sol. |
rufinthefury
10.02.21 | Penta got into a shoot fight with Alberto Del Patron, you loooove to see it. Fuck Alberto |
Divaman
10.02.21 | So he's not the former lead singer of Marillion, then? |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | He’s closer to an actual fisherman. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | He also turns 45 years old this month. |
rufinthefury
10.02.21 | Jade over Rosa isnt the end of the world but man I wanna see Rosa take out Britt already |
Divaman
10.02.21 | Jade is very stiff. She's got a super impressive physique, but to me, she's missing something. |
Divaman
10.02.21 | I'm in no rush to see Britt lose the belt, but when she does, I agree it should be to Rosa. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | “Jade is very stiff. She's got a super impressive physique, but to me, she's missing something.“
10 years in the business |
Divaman
10.02.21 | Yeah, probably. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | So FTR was referenced on Smackdown last night. Seth Rollins did a home invasion on Edge and Edge called Beth Phoenix telling her to get Daniel and David over there to help him, which are the real names of FTR and are neighbors with Edge and Beth. Lol. FTR both posted on Twitter that they were willing to help Edge and beat Seths bitch ass lol. Weird. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | It would be crazy if AEW and wwe let FTR appear in a one off just to help Edge. It has now literally been set up. Of all places it is set up is on wwe tv? Crazy. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.02.21 | Realistically it was probably just Edges creative and possibly only way he could put over FTR and also thank them since they are in a different company. FTR trained Edge for his eventual comeback run. |
Divaman
10.02.21 | I don't know when Edge's contract is up, but it wouldn't surprise me if he moved over the AEW when it is. |
rufinthefury
10.02.21 | yo that FTR and Edge shit is amazing ahaha |
ExhaleTheLight
10.03.21 | Going back to Sammy’s title win. I’m not mad he did, dude deserved it. But man Miro’s run with the title was so much fun, he really nailed his new gimmick, I wish the reign was longer. Hopefully after whichever face dethrones Omega, Miro gets a shot at the world title. |
rufinthefury
10.03.21 | Everyone seems to be on the same page that Hangman is great for the chase but maybe not gonna be amazing being a top babyface with the belt. So hey, Hangman gets his big W over Kenny and then he can fall to the new top heel Miro. |
Divaman
10.03.21 | I miss Hangman. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.04.21 | Also unrelated, but Zack Sabre JR putting on some of the best matches ever in this year's G1. Still waiting for him to feud with Moxley at some point. |
0GuyMan0
10.04.21 | I said it earlier, but I still think Hangman's storyline is AEW's "proof of concept", and they HAVE to nail it, otherwise embrace the top-tier talent they've acquired until one of the pillars manages an organic push with crowds. His return will tell us for real how over he is, but I see no reason he can't have a run like Moxley's where he has a backstage promo every dynamite and maybe has a spot with whoever he's feuding with. He doesn't have to go out there and do the Omega / Bucks 10 minutes of TV time thing every single week to be successful. |
Divaman
10.07.21 | I'm getting tired of the top young guys having to sell for all the new talent. Especially Jungle Boy, as they've pinned two L's on him recently. |
rufinthefury
10.07.21 | HANGMAN!
@Diva not a problem pinning or beating guys like JB or Dante Martin. Jungle Boy literally has so much rub and upside you basically can't kill him. They gave him Christian as a sidekick even like cmon. They clearly have huge plans for him, MJF even straight up said it last week. Their time just isn't now |
AlexKzillion
10.07.21 | Jungle Boy has always taken way too many Ls and pins for someone of his supposed stature imo. Darby, Sammy, and MJF are all far more protected by comparison to the point where I'm not sure JB belongs in the same convo.
Also, I am utterly perplexed how this man can pull Anna Jay but seemingly can't cut a promo or really exude any type of charisma in the ring despite being a very sound wrestler. His brief title feud with Kenny was the perfect example of that. Great match with an absolutely terrible buildup. His ceiling will be capped until he can add that stuff to his repertoire. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.07.21 | How long till a wrestler calls the tbs championship the total bull shit championship due to a heel being mad they lost it or a face talking about how a heel has had a cowardly/cheating title run? |
Divaman
10.07.21 | Well, Sammy took a bunch of L's in the first year and a half, including in his rivalry w/Darby and then his rivalry w/Matt Hardy. But I thought JB had stepped up in the world. Was just depressed to see him take the L tonight, especially after he had to take the loss from Adam Cole two weeks ago.
And unfortunately, I kind of missed the whole end of the Ladder match w/Hangman. I got a phone call that was supposed to come in at 10 (which probably still would have f'd it up) but of course it come in like 10 minutes early. So while I technically saw it, I had the sound off and was on the phone, so I couldn't really enjoy it. |
JeetJeet
10.07.21 | "Also, I am utterly perplexed how this man can pull Anna Jay but seemingly can't cut a promo or really exude any type of charisma in the ring despite being a very sound wrestler."
Jungle Boy is AEW's Ricochet. |
JeetJeet
10.07.21 | Also Hangman winning that ladder match had me going crazy. This is it guys we're on the path to seeing them put the title on the GAWD Page. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.07.21 | “ Jungle Boy is AEW's Ricochet.”
Hard disagree because I have never thought of Jungle Boy as overrated, arrogant, or moronic. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.07.21 | I feel like Luchasaurus was suppose to eat the pin but they botched the finishing move they were going to do. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.07.21 | The current problem I see with every single new signee is that they HAVE to be protected. So talent like Jungle Boy and Guevara take these losses. |
Divaman
10.07.21 | Exactly. And even Darby, who had to take the first L to put over Punk. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.07.21 | If you really think about it for all the AEW originals, Mox is the only one who hasn’t been pinned or submitted cleanly (Minus the bucks tag match). |
rufinthefury
10.07.21 | Heel Mox as a challenger for Hangman with the belt is gonna bang |
Divaman
10.07.21 | Didn't Archer beat him more or less cleanly when he was playing heel and got himself stuck in the barbed wire? The night that Archer won the Japanese title that he turned around and lost in about ten minutes?
Damn, I was enjoying that ladder match last night, too, until my friend fucked it up with that phone call. That was a pretty interesting mix. |
Pheromone
10.07.21 | what was the botch last night? I watched the opening / closing matches and didn't really clock anything |
Divaman
10.07.21 | I don't know, but it's a botch by TNT that they're moving the show to a Saturday night for the next week (two weeks?) for the stupid basketball. I hate when they do that. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.07.21 | The the botch I think was when they were all going to power bomb Luchasaurus and Kenny couldn’t hold him the whole way up. Def looked sloppy |
Pheromone
10.07.21 | Oh see yeah I thought that was a botch but I felt they all did pretty well making up for it |
0GuyMan0
10.07.21 | JB taking losses to Kenny Omega and Adam Cole won't hurt a bit. Especially Cole, who is over with every living being on Earth, apparently.
Until he grows a mustache and starts hitting the stick, he's right where he needs to be.
Also - I think the way to *really* setup Page / Omega, is for Danielson's first loss to be Hangman, clean in the center. Page is over more than pretty much anyone, but that would be the "I'm ready" moment for him. |
Divaman
10.07.21 | I don't agree. When you have to keep taking those losses, eventually the crowd gets tired of supporting you because you're the talented but dumb guy who repeatedly gets cheated out of wins. And Cole isn't over with everyone on Earth. I'm on the fence about him, and Schiavone is clearly against him, heh heh. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.07.21 | Shiv On Hee, Shove On He, Shavon-e/
…
e/ |
Divaman
10.07.21 | Yeah, him. The guy Jericho calls "Skiavonee". |
0GuyMan0
10.07.21 | probably the only part of Jericho commentary I like at this point lol
Hey we can disagree, that's cool. Personally, I don't know that I see world champion in JB necessarily, and now is really not the time (imo) to push him. He's got a bright future, was the first to 50 wins and can only get better. I don't think "the crowd gets tired of supporting you" is much of a concern in AEW, at least not in the short term. There were people saying they fucked up Hangman by having him take that loss and then disappear for a month or whatever it was. Clearly not the case. I think AEW has earned some trust in this. |
0GuyMan0
10.07.21 | "Shut it, Skee-a-vone!" |
AlexKzillion
10.08.21 | dude what the fuck how did arn become the best part of dymamite |
Pheromone
10.08.21 | Any show that has Chucky t on a weekly basis is a show I will follow |
Divaman
10.08.21 | I'm kind of getting played out on Dan Lambert and the Dream team. |
rufinthefury
10.08.21 | Reverse that for me. They're finally actually doing something |
Divaman
10.08.21 | Yeah, but it's the same thing every time. And I don't know, yeah the gang-up is a tried and true old wrestling trope, but am I really buying that seven or eight MMA guys (and gal) need to do the whole travel-in-packs, bully thing? |
rufinthefury
10.08.21 | Need to? No. Just like Kenny doesn't need to be a chickenshit heel with a gang of friends to hide behind but he does anyways cuz that's what heels do lol |
ExhaleTheLight
10.08.21 | I always like Kenny, but his current heel gimmick sucks ass. You can’t take him seriously cause of his goofiness and needs Callis to cut a promo for him. Probably the worst world championship reign of the 3 so far IMO |
AlexKzillion
10.08.21 | Think my first episode of dynamite was the one after Kenny took the title from Mox. I think the issue has mostly been that he hasn't had any high profile feud since vanquishing Moxley... and while the Pac/OC triple threat and the Christian match were both very good, it was supremely obvious he was gonna retain. His best match/feud since becoming champion has been Bryan Danielson and it hasn't even involved the title.
Also doesn't help that everybody and their mothers want/believe Hangman to be the one to beat him... so it makes it hard to take any other challengers seriously. |
0GuyMan0
10.09.21 | I respect his run a lot more than I've enjoyed it, I think. Like if I compare him to Roman, which one looks more like a Champion to me? Carries himself like a threat? That's just my take, but when everyone was pushing this guy as the "Best Bout Machine" and "The Collector" and all that, I wasn't expecting him to constantly be surrounded by goofy shit with Cutler and the Good Brothers and laptop man. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.09.21 | I just think Moxleys reign was so much better. One of the best face runs ever. Every match was different and had a different finish |
AlexKzillion
10.09.21 | "That's just my take, but when everyone was pushing this guy as the "Best Bout Machine" and "The Collector" and all that, I wasn't expecting him to constantly be surrounded by goofy shit with Cutler and the Good Brothers and laptop man."
Yepp pretty much my take as well at this point. Kenny/Cole/Bucks with Callis would be much more easier to take seriously. Throw in the no-good brothers, cutlet, and michael nakanakaknockitthefuckoff (going with the cornette nicknames here) though... shit becomes way too watered down. It's like 96 nWo vs nWo wolfpack. The champion really should not need a 9 man entourage behind him. |
0GuyMan0
10.09.21 | I think his run was better, too, but I'm personally not a Moxley fan. He seems so concerned with us thinking he's some kind of badass. Almost like an inferiority complex. And then his worship of hardcore / deathmatch shit really turns me off. That's just personal taste though.
No question, he's still top two or three best promos in the business though. |
rufinthefury
10.09.21 | Kenny is not supposed to be taken seriously outside of the ring. Like y'all are actually being worked idk what to say lol |
0GuyMan0
10.09.21 | Operating in Kayfabe here, but if I'm not supposed to take this guy seriously - because he's not serious in the least - what am I supposed to feel about the championship that he carries? Or the guys who fail to take it from him? Or the raging hardass he took the belt from in the first place? |
Divaman
10.09.21 | I like the "North Caroooooooliiiiiiina!" thing, though. But I miss the cheerleaders with the brooms. |
Divaman
10.09.21 | Seriously, all the external goofiness aside, I think it's possible to just concentrate on what a good ring technician Kenny is when he's actually wrestling. Even in the exploding barbed wire match, I think Moxley and Kenny wrestled a great match and they wrote a great story for Eddie Kingston to come in and throw his body over Moxley to protect him. It was unfortunate the dud of an explosion detracted from the whole thing. I like to think about how it would have been received if the explosion had worked like it was supposed to. |
Divaman
10.09.21 | So Danny Garcia is back with the two stooges tonight, huh? Woo hoo. |
rufinthefury
10.09.21 | 0Guy just because hes a joke outside of the ring purpose made to piss people off (and it's clearly working based on this thread lol) doesnt mean he isnt destroying people in the ring in an amazingly showy way. The whole point is that hes so fucking good that he doesnt need to be a goof with his loser friends but hes stooped that low anyways because hes a crazy asshole. You want to see the crazy joker lose, but he is in fact great in the ring where it matters.
He's a heel. Doing heel things. I'm confused how you dont get this lol |
Divaman
10.09.21 | Fairly enjoyable show tonight, though certainly not a classic. |
rufinthefury
10.09.21 | Skye Blue is getting signed Fuego style I guarantee it. Maybe not on-screen kayfabe wise the same but shes gonna job her way to a job
|
ExhaleTheLight
10.11.21 | Not sure why everyone is celebrating the women getting midcard title when the women’s division is still hardly develop. When you look at WWE’s roster, AEW’s is still pale in comparison. |
Divaman
10.11.21 | Yeah, well, it's a step in the right direction at least.
I guess they either have to give this belt to Cargill, or have her break her unbeaten streak, which would be a waste. |
rufinthefury
10.11.21 | I see three contenders for the midcard women's title, Jade, Serena Deeb, and Kris Statlander. Of those three I think Jade and Serena have the best shot and I'd personally like to see it on Serena since I don't believe Jade really needs it. |
AlexKzillion
10.11.21 | Can't see them putting the belt on Jade when she can't really do anything but squash matches still. Just does not seem like the best idea to put her in competitive matches just yet.
I think Deeb would be perfect for it... best wrestler in the division, as well as a monster heel who will give the belt prestige and make it mean something when someone (tay conti?) beats her.
I think a women's midcard title is a bit tricky to implement in AEW because you can't put it on Shida, Statlander, Soho, Rosa etc. this soon because they were just in competitive feuds with the current world champion and would sorta diminish that title... but you don't want to put it on someone too green either if you're really trying to give it a similar prestige to the TNT title. Think it's still a bit soon for a second wonen's title but what do I know? |
Divaman
10.11.21 | But Jade either has to have it, or they have to bail on Jade's unbeaten streak. |
Divaman
10.11.21 | Btw, I'd rather see Soho win it myself. But I just don't think they're going to bail on Jade's unbeaten streak yet. |
AlexKzillion
10.11.21 | Oh yeah completely agree. The Jade situation is beyond complicated... and I think the clock is gonna start ticking on her soon. She can't be the literally unstoppable force who never wrestles a credible opponent or goes for a title shot forever. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.11.21 | Justin Roberts is a damn good announcer |
Storm In A Teacup
10.11.21 | AEW could easily have a more than decent women’s tag team division. It would automatically be better than the non-existent wwe women tag division. |
Divaman
10.11.21 | Yeah, I hope they get around to this. I'd like to see them run another tag tournament and ultimately create a tag belt. |
LunaticSoul
10.11.21 | I just came here to say the last BTE is one of the funniest one ever. The powerbomb skit was absurd |
ExhaleTheLight
10.12.21 | If there's one more person I want them to sign, I would love Mauro Ranallo to replace excalibur on either Dynamite or Rampage. |
AlexKzillion
10.12.21 | Still can't believe that by far the best full time wrestling commentator today is Pat McAfee. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.12.21 | I'd argue that honor is for Kevin Kelly. |
Divaman
10.12.21 | I stopped watching BTE. The Good Brothers drove me off. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.12.21 | Can we trade Excalibur to WWE for Pat McAfee? We can throw in Alex Marvez too. 😇 |
Storm In A Teacup
10.12.21 | Malaki Blacks debut would have been so much better if Excalibur didn’t ruin it three times in a row in less than 30 seconds. 🙄🙄🙄 |
Storm In A Teacup
10.12.21 | https://youtu.be/sv_lF2BfBYs |
Storm In A Teacup
10.12.21 | I didn’t think he could be more annoying and then I see he thinks dropping n***er in promos is fine. |
Divaman
10.12.21 | That's old news, which AEW suspended him for about a year and a half ago. I like Excalibur, although he might be best on AEW Dark, when it's just him and Taz. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.12.21 | I found out today. I think they should have it always rotating and also do a lot of Taz, Tony, and Jim for Dynamite and Mark Henry, Taz, and Punk for Rampage. Have Mark do interviews on Dynamite. Have Jim do interviews on Rampage. Blah blah blah. Just make sure Alex Marvez doesn’t interview anyone, and make sure Excalibur is kept on dark where he can talk about who he wrestled with 15 years ago that only 200 people to this day have seen. |
rufinthefury
10.16.21 | Suzuki v Bryan was so fuckinh good Jesus christ |
Divaman
10.16.21 | Jericho's cruise goes out this week, from Oct. 21-25, but I don't know if they're putting it on TV this year.
Then Fozzy goes on a European Tour in late November. So I guess he'll be off TV for awhile, at least for the tour. |
Pheromone
10.16.21 | Excalibur is easily the best commentator
|
Divaman
10.16.21 | Yeah, I like him myself. And Taz is excellent as a color guy. He and Excalibur work well together.
Fairly meh show tonight, though. At least, that's how it felt to me. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | SPOILERS THIS COMMENT
did you guys see the picture of tony khan on the sideline of the jaguar coming with the card for the next ppv on his papers. 11 matches, only incomplete match iirc is Britt Baker vs ?. Looks like all of Inner Circle will reunite for a 5v5 match with American Top Team. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | SPOILERS THIS COMMENT
Kenny Omega vs. Hangman Page
Bryan Danielson vs. Jon Moxley
Inner Circle vs. American Top Team
MJF vs. Darby Allin
CM Punk vs. Wardlow
Britt Baker vs. ?
Jade Cargill vs. Thunder Rosa
Christian Cage vs. Adam Cole
Lucha Bros vs. FTR
Young Bucks vs. Jurassic Express
Cody Rhodes vs. Malakai Black or Andrade or ? |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | STILL SPOILERS
i really hope the Bryan Danielson vs Jon Moxley thing is true and we get a really good story out of it. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | Andrade continues to have his potential waned by not being booked well or concretely. This Full Gear leak doesn't look good for him. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.16.21 | I have somewhat of a feeling Andrade might be a diva backstage, not sure if that is true or not, just a thought. |
AlexKzillion
10.16.21 | CM Punk vs. Wardlow is the one that pops out to me. Could totally see Darby beating MJF while Wardlow UPSETS CM PUNK... but MJF still tries to boss him around and shit afterwards and Wardlow finally snaps because he knows he's too good to take his shit anymore and turns face.
I really don't think it's a good idea to make Wardlow another victim of Punk's lower-midcard massacre. Dude loses and is made a fool out of way too often to be the monster he's presented as. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.16.21 | Wardlow should be their next homegrown star Forsure. Dude can actually go in the ring. We’ve only seen so little of him in actual singles matches. I hope he does go over Punk. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | All it took was one half of FTR nearly dying to finally get pushed good. Really need them to beat the shit out of the bucks still tho. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | And I agree hopefully we are ending cm punks undefeated streak soon |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | Honestly matt sydal could have beat punk tonight and i would have loved it. Still need to watch |
AlexKzillion
10.16.21 | I'm still mad they made Wardlow do that worked MMA fight with Hager. Prob the worst AEW match I've ever seen including youtube |
LunaticSoul
10.16.21 | guys I am very sorry but this 2-hour Rampage fucked
All matches were very good, including maybe the best ever Youtube match of all times?
And yeah that main event fucked, sorry guys I am enjoying a lot Lambert and ATT and MOTY now and I feel a little bit sick inside, but fuck it was good. crowd super hot for being a 2k people crowd it felt like they were 10x the number, JDS table bumping, I mean what's not to like |
LunaticSoul
10.16.21 | Fuck me sideways Danielson v Suzuki has been my G1 match of the year
I also did not watch any G1 :(. I feel terrible. G1 was my favourite thing wrestling wise of the year, but Japanese crowds clapping are a big turn off |
AlexKzillion
10.16.21 | More Paige Van Zant please
I guess my problem with ATT now that they're actually wrestling is how can a team of UFC fighters ever lose? Especially when there's like eight of them. Just kinda breaks my suspension of disbelief seeing 50yo Jericho be in a competitive match with Junior Dos Santos |
LunaticSoul
10.16.21 | well, they did win. . . . all times by now. also c'mon that uranage exchange was pretty cool
I think american wrestling has an issue with allowing closed punches, which is a non-thing for example in Japanese - and that becomes an issue with mingling with UFC fighters who can knock you out legit.
Like in Japan, you are not allowed to throw a closed fist. and pretty much Kazushi Sakuraba's match (just one UFC legend doing NJPW and stuff) fucked so hard. Shibata - Sakuraba bouts were legit a must watch. That Nakamura knee strike also is one for the memories |
LunaticSoul
10.16.21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zckY5GM9Bks
war of stiff knee strikes |
rufinthefury
10.16.21 | Last night was so fucking great top to bottom. I had no complaints
"IF YOURE NOT WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW YOU'RE A DUMBASS" -Taz |
AlexKzillion
10.16.21 | "well, they did win. . . . all times by now. also c'mon that uranage exchange was pretty cool"
Well yeah but I highly doubt that will always be the case (especially considering Jericho's track record)... and it will most likely come at the expense of Sky and/or Page who I don't want to see lose. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.16.21 | Taz is probably the best person to bring out the best in Excalibur. And yes Taz continues to have great one liners |
ExhaleTheLight
10.17.21 | We're probably looking at a Mox heel turn boys.
Also Hangman's promo tonight was pretty good. |
LunaticSoul
10.17.21 | Also tonight was excellent. I laughed, jumped, and got entertained
|
ExhaleTheLight
10.17.21 | No need for the CM Punk entrance once again if he’s not wrestling or doing a promo. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.17.21 | Agreed. Also Hangman promo was nothing special and maybe kind of forced. Bored with him. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.17.21 | I would say I wish Pat McAfee could do AEW commentary but he is probably the best person to make smack down redeemable. Not that I watch smack down lol. |
LunaticSoul
10.17.21 | Hangman promos always start poor and become better by the time, I think it plays out in the character of not being very confident
reality might be he's just not a stellar promo dude |
ExhaleTheLight
10.17.21 | I can see him having the shortest championship reign. I feel like heel Mox will beat him.
As far as it goes we’re getting Danielson vs Mox in the tournament final. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.17.21 | Good points. I like him either way. |
LunaticSoul
10.17.21 | https://twitter.com/junior_cigano/status/1449516747317551104
based JDS |
Divaman
10.18.21 | Caught upon the buy-in for Rampage tonight. I thought Suzuki-Danielson was the best match of the night, better than the ones they actually showed on Rampage. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.18.21 | Definitely. Should have been on rampage. Advertised as 3 matches feat Bryan, punk, dos |
LunaticSoul
10.18.21 | They placed it on YT so that it could avoid ads and to compete directly with Smackdown (same timeslot). |
AlexKzillion
10.18.21 | Anyone else think Hangman might've been thrown back in the title mix a little too fast? Obviously were still a month away from the ppv but I was def expecting a bit more scratching and clawing back after losing the 10-man tag and causing fissures within the dark order. Dude won a title shot match after he was kayfabe written off tv because he was so sad he lost his last one literally the first night he comes back. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | So uh...Rampage beat Smackdown... |
rufinthefury
10.19.21 | Ruby Soho vs. Bunny tied Roman & Lesnar, both at 0.23.
You know TK is somewhere coked out of his fucking mind right now |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | Yeah. And a year ago Tay Conti vs Santana Garret set the record for the lowest rating AEW ever has done and Tony still put that same match on the buy in. Man is now a fucking wild legend. |
AlexKzillion
10.19.21 | That's actually insane to me lmao I was expecting AEW to get their shit kicked in knowing Vince would most definitely load that extra half hour and AEW not really doing anything to counteract it besides having Punk wrestle. |
AlexKzillion
10.19.21 | Also apparently the buy-in did HUGE numbers too |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | Tony is somewhere with a rolled up dollar bill and is booking the next three years volume 7 and will finish it tonight and sleep for 2 hours. I’ve always thought he looked like he was on adderall and now that he recently said he sometimes sleeps 2 hours a night and sometimes not for days. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | I watched the buy in live it was at +100,000 viewers when I was watching |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | Minoru Suzuki is currently my favorite wrestler in the world. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | Just watched Suzuki vs Venon Tiger White and Suzuki vs Inagaki both from 1993, fantastic to see. |
LunaticSoul
10.19.21 | https://youtu.be/Mm4BCedsKww?t=1378
horrible Red Velvet botch in, she really risked on this one, painful to watch
yeah champagne opening coke busting TK is my favourite version of TK |
LunaticSoul
10.19.21 | Buy in is very close to 1M views, so I would say yeah it was a good result. match was a banger. I never got into RoH when I was young, because I like my wrestling "pretty" (as in, good video quality, good lighting, etc.) - TNA was my go-to, to be honest, because it was good quality and good wrestling. Well, for the years I watched at least. And so I hardly saw any american dragon action aside from the odd match here and there, but always been a little bit allergic to the bingo halls (same for PWG look and feel). |
LunaticSoul
10.19.21 | what I wanted to say is that Bryan Danielson is the fucking man |
AlexKzillion
10.19.21 | "I watched the buy in live it was at +100,000 viewers when I was watching"
don't think I've ever seen or heard of a youtube stream reaching 6 figures holy shit |
AlexKzillion
10.19.21 | "I’ve always thought he looked like he was on adderall and now that he recently said he sometimes sleeps 2 hours a night and sometimes not for days."
The man is absolutely on something. Dude runs and books everything in AEW (which is prob very demanding on its own), while also apparently working high ranking positions for the Jaguars and that soccer club his father owns as well. Dude talks a million miles an hour and always looks like he hasn't slept in weeks. I'd need to be convinced he ISN'T on something at this point... just no other explanation for how that man can function an take on all of that. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.19.21 | Meth is a hell of a drug. Fun tho. I really liked adderal back in the day to take for a fun couple days. Would talk my ass off and stay up for two days, |
rufinthefury
10.19.21 | my coworkers love some addie and im like yall are some fuckin fiends tbh |
Storm In A Teacup
10.20.21 | Yeah fo sho lol. Damn I’m still so happy about how AEW is doing lately |
Storm In A Teacup
10.20.21 | Looking forward to a crazy promo from Mox and Danielson against each other. I think Mox will attack American Dragon at some point to start the feud. Like Dragon is trying to take Mox’s top spot or something |
Storm In A Teacup
10.20.21 | Holy fuck I found a video of a young orange Cassidy and you guys will be like 😮
https://youtu.be/uAbjTlxj2ms |
Divaman
10.20.21 | Another Wednesday, another day without Dynamite. Sigh. |
LunaticSoul
10.20.21 | Holy fuck Storm
is that like Matt Riddle
Did he just do too many drugs and now he is lethargic? |
Storm In A Teacup
10.20.21 | He is quite the flirt in AEW Dungeons and Dragons, don’t think he has lost a step in his charismatic over the top speaking ability like we see in that video. But holy shit, I have not seen him anything close to that before. |
AlexKzillion
10.21.21 | Orange Cassidy being 37 is still baffling to me. Dude is older than Cody, Miro, Roman, Rollins, Mox, Black etc. who've all seemingly been around forever |
Storm In A Teacup
10.21.21 | Yea
Also suicide dives are dumb and add nothing to a match. I really hate how these days if there is a wrestling match there is a dive. It is so damn lame. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.21.21 | There needs to be a ban on dives and the only reason for the ban is that they are lame. |
rufinthefury
10.21.21 | HOLY FUCK SHIBATA IS BACK OH MY GOOOOOOD |
AlexKzillion
10.21.21 | And they look like shit for the most part.
Only guy who should seriously be doing dives is Darby and Sammy because theirs aren't half assed and actually look like they would hurt someone. And I guess Fenix and Dante Martin cause they at least look cool as shit doing it.
Everyone else though? No. Looks like complete shit. People half-assing it and landing on their feet. Big groups of guys obviously just standing there to catch the guy. And then there's people like Moxley and Kingston who do it despite not being athletic enough and therefore looking especially shit doing it, Brian Cage doing it despite being the biggest dude on the roster, and Red Velvet doing it despite nearly killing herself on numerous occasions and then completely no-selling it. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.21.21 | Yup. I dont understand it at all. So lame. Looks like shit. Done in every match in every promotion it feels like. Why? It's been a few years now that this has been going on. If there was something that got me to stop watching wrestling in 2022 it would be finally seeing too many dives and I say enough is enough. |
AlexKzillion
10.21.21 | Yeah it sucks cause when they are done right they still look devastating. Like Sammy diving at MJF beyond the barricade in their singles match, or Darby coffin dropping Ethan Page through the coffin. Both were very violent looking and idk why they cheapen those moments by letting guys who aren't nearly as talented do them in every fucking match. |
rufinthefury
10.21.21 | HOW DARE YOU SAY SHIBATA LOOKS LIKE SHIT UR SHIT |
Storm In A Teacup
10.21.21 | No one said that lol |
ExhaleTheLight
10.21.21 | I am disappointed that the G1 Finals came down to Okada vs Ibushi, Cobb should’ve went over Okada. |
LunaticSoul
10.21.21 | Shibata and Ibushi both made me weep tears today ngl
hard day for my emotional balance |
rufinthefury
10.22.21 | Alexz hates Shibata confirmed |
AlexKzillion
10.22.21 | I had literally no idea G1 was going on when I said any of that hahahahaha I was talking strictly AEW and kinda WWE |
Storm In A Teacup
10.22.21 | but now we know they also did suicide dives, automatic 1 star match, the lot of them! |
rufinthefury
10.22.21 | lmfao imagine Shibata doing suicide dives with his fuckin brain clot shit |
AlexKzillion
10.23.21 | Andrade/Pac 2
Britt/Anna
OC/Hobbs
Rampage low key kinda stacked tonight |
AlexKzillion
10.23.21 | I really hope Hobbs goes over. Similar to Wardlow... Hobbs loses and is made a fool out of way too often and seriously should not be losing to a guy he is like 2.5x the size of. |
goonmob
10.23.21 | Love me some Anna Jay |
Storm In A Teacup
10.23.21 | Oh shit I gotta watch this show. Had no idea any of that was happening other than PAC Andrade but had no idea that was even tonight. |
ExhaleTheLight
10.24.21 | Uhhh Cody going over Malakai is not the biz dawg. |
AlexKzillion
10.25.21 | Just finished rampage
OC going over Hobbs was stupid for aforementioned reasons
Penta/FTR segment was terrible but I'm hyped for the match
Anna Jay is super green and Britt is not good enough in ring to carry less experienced wrestlers just yet. Think were getting her vs. Tay at the ppv which I'm hyped for
Pac/Andrade 2 was even better than the first and I refuse to buy the ppv if we don't get a grudge match |
LunaticSoul
10.25.21 | Anna has improved a lot in stringing things and I was positively surprised by some moves but she is really not getting the "acting" part of wrestling. |
AlexKzillion
10.25.21 | Yeah it's like the moves are good and they got from spot to spot etc. but she seemed so timid the entire time. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.25.21 | I see Anna needing a few years still. Tay Conti appears to be less than a year away. |
AlexKzillion
10.25.21 | Yeah Conti will absolutely be champion in the near future... think she would be a good heel too if she were to ever turn |
0GuyMan0
10.26.21 | I'm finally coming around on Andrade. If Malakai is gonna have a stable, I badly, badly want Andrade and Pac in it. Definitely wishful thinking on Pac, and I'm a little bummed we probably won't get Black vs. Andrade anytime soon.
I think Rampage fell apart at the end due to time constraints, but they missed a massive opportunity by having Cody win it 'clean'. Should have cheated to win, then show Malakai laughing, beside himself that he successfully corrupted Cody. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.26.21 | yes instead we get cody win clean, hear boos, looks to crowd, does the John Cena head nod, i was like lololololol |
AlexKzillion
10.26.21 | Yeah just finished dynamite and what the fuck that was a HUGE missed opportunity not having Cody cheat to win. The commentators were even talking about how we were gonna see a different Cody tonight.... bitch where?????? I've been as invested in Cody as I've ever been in my entire life, WWE or AEW, the last three or four weeks with all the glock anderson promos and vignettes and they just fucked it all up. |
AlexKzillion
10.26.21 | That being said, Bryan/Dustin was a bangerrrrr |
Storm In A Teacup
10.26.21 | seeing arn come out and do the gun motion was awesome |
Divaman
10.27.21 | So is Dynamite actually on tonight? |
0GuyMan0
10.27.21 | yes |
LunaticSoul
10.28.21 | BUUUUUDGE |
LunaticSoul
10.28.21 | Who said here Cody did not fake out a Pedigree? now it´s canon lol |
0GuyMan0
10.28.21 | Last night was an absolute clown show, but at least it was still kinda fun. |
LunaticSoul
10.28.21 | I laughed my ass off |
rufinthefury
10.28.21 | That Elite match last night was the definition of sports entertaining |
0GuyMan0
10.29.21 | Suppose it was, but I thought this was the 'wrestling' promotion |
rufinthefury
10.29.21 | nah, it's a company where win/loss and work rate matter but comedy and weird shit definitely live in AEW. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.29.21 | can't believe Cody is doing his version of the John Cena gimmick. this is nutter butters. |
LunaticSoul
10.29.21 | Yesterday my flatmate asked me "why I don´t watch Boxe instead" and then that match happened and yeah the argument kinda died
I am still laughing over the BUDGE John Silver Bambi pop in my mind. |
0GuyMan0
10.29.21 | I have hopes that this is all an elaborate character Cody has set up, but those hopes are dwindling. |
rufinthefury
10.29.21 | Cody will remain a face getting boo'd until the time is right: when Triple H surprise debuts in AEW and Cody immediately aligns with him |
AlexKzillion
10.30.21 | "I have hopes that this is all an elaborate character Cody has set up, but those hopes are dwindling."
It HAS to be. I mean, he was fucking flat out saying "he would never turn" and 100% acknowledging the boos and telling people "don't booo the narrative". Completely breaking kayfabe. Like I think if he were really really REALLY serious about never turning, he would go the John Cena route and just never speak or allude to it.
I think the real reason comes down to almost the entire rest of the elite being heels currently, with Kenny being the mega-heel world champion. I think Cody's eventual heel turn is as big an ace up AEW's sleeve as Hangman winning the title. Don't get me wrong, Kenny is great... but if Cody turned within the next month, went back on his promise to never challenge for the title and then took the title off hangman, I think he would be legit Roman level.
The family legacy, the game show, the reality show, the tattoo, the insanely overdone entrance, it'd literally be perfect. |
AlexKzillion
10.30.21 | Also, I'm not sure Cody's seen the news, but Roman is selling peak-Cena levels of merch now as a heel. Hogan was a heel for like 5 years straight. The Rock was a great heel. Didn't stop kids from liking and looking up to all those guys, didn't stop them from making movies and being celebrities etc... it aint 1975 anymore, the heels in wrestling are cooler than the faces more often than not these days. Nothing is worse in wrestling than a face that can't get over. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.30.21 | I think they were planning on adding Ric Flair to Andrade and that being part of Codys story but they are trying to figure out an alternate route. |
LunaticSoul
10.30.21 | Cody is Homelander folks c'mon. it's the heel that thinks is a face |
LunaticSoul
10.30.21 | Storyline aside, man the quality of wrestling is off the hook. week-in week-out there is a new banger. TV wrestling quality has never been this high. |
Divaman
10.30.21 | >Cody is Homelander folks c'mon. it's the heel that thinks is a face
That's a really good comparison. There is something about Cody that reminds me of Homelander. |
AlexKzillion
10.30.21 | Yeah that's most likely what it is. But I just want him to snap and betray everyone so bad! I hate being worked like this lol... guess that means what he's doing is working |
rufinthefury
10.30.21 | https://i.redd.it/3l3n28jrtkw71.jpg
Just linking this for the folks that were down on Jungle Boy "losing too much." He literally has the most wins in the company and was the first to 50 wins in the first place. Trust me, he'll be fine. |
Storm In A Teacup
10.30.21 | Eh, Kenny started his current run by being a heel that thinks he is a face. This Cody thing is not quite that. |
LunaticSoul
10.30.21 | My Cody forecasts when it was clear he was just about to inflate his his stupid sell-out stuff everyone with a brain hates (the reality, snoop, the tattoo, rhodes to the top, his wife)
-He will over-do his entrances
-He will pull a "don't boo me" promo
-He will heel it up so people boo him even more, but keeping the facey smile
-He will fake a Pedigree
-He will win a feud-match clean
-He will throw stuff in the crowd until someone throws it back at him (John Cena style)
I am just missing the last one to call it a bingo. |
AlexKzillion
11.01.21 | In the middle of Rampage... PUNK KINGSTON FEUD INJECT THAT SHIT INTO MY VEINS |
Divaman
11.01.21 | I'm definitely enjoying Danielson's run in AEW. |
AlexKzillion
11.01.21 | Yeah he's the MVP of AEW right now no question... whatever match or segment he's in is routinely the best part of the show |
goonmob
11.01.21 | I want Punk to turn heel and go after Bryan |
veninblazer
11.01.21 | COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT |
rufinthefury
11.01.21 | OH MY GOD VENINBLAZER IS HERE IN A E DUBBAYOO |
0GuyMan0
11.01.21 | When I saw Punk and Eddie on Rampage I nearly lost my shit, hoping against hope that they would have a match at the next Rampage (which I will be attending).
I have a brain though, and know that is fucking Full Gear material right there. |
rufinthefury
11.02.21 | Have fun dude, AEW live shows are so fucking entertaining |
AlexKzillion
11.02.21 | Wait do they still film dynamite and rampage together? Or did they stop? |
0GuyMan0
11.02.21 | I think in general they try to.
These tickets were bought over a year ago, and were supposed to be for Dynamite. But then pandemic. And then they were "Friday night taping" before Rampage was a thing. But Full Gear was the next night in STL as well, so that made up for it! And then Full Gear was moved.
So instead of shit-tons of AEW wrestling (not to mention likely seeing Hangman beat Kenny in-person) we now get one hour of Rampage. I imagine they'll do some Dark or elevation stuff, but I'm pretty annoyed about it. |
rufinthefury
11.02.21 | as someone from Chicago I cant relate
but that sucks |
Storm In A Teacup
11.03.21 | Jin Moxley pulled from AEW, has entered rehab, reported by Tony Khan. |
Divaman
11.03.21 | Yikes! |
Divaman
11.03.21 | Does that mean that OC gets a bye? |
AlexKzillion
11.03.21 | Well that sucks...
Looking like we'll be getting Bryan/OC at the ppv then... talk about a clash of styles lmaooo |
Storm In A Teacup
11.03.21 | If he can get out in time he should be able to just attack OC during his entrance at full gear and replace him that way in the finals. He’s supposed to be a heel anyway. |
AlexKzillion
11.03.21 | It's weird cause I just cannot picture what either Bryan/Moxley or Bryan/OC would look like so I have a hard time deciding which I'd prefer. I'm sure the former match happened numerous times in WWE... but both guys are so much better and allowed to do so much more in AEW, especially Moxley. |
0GuyMan0
11.03.21 | There's no way it's gonna be OC / Bryan. I'm thinking Punk, Miro or Pac is his mystery challenger tonight.
I'm of the opinion that Mox was going to be Danielson's first loss, and Hangman's first feud as champion. This throws a wrench in what was looking to be some damn good wrestling over the next couple months.
Good for him, though. That takes guts. |
Divaman
11.03.21 | Especially since he's a new father. He's doing the right thing. Hope it works out for him. |
AlexKzillion
11.03.21 | Ohhhh fuck it's about to be Miro and I'm fucking ready for it |
Divaman
11.03.21 | Yeah, that would be great. |
ExhaleTheLight
11.04.21 | Well any plans for a Mox heel turn will fall short. Dude is gonna have probably one of the biggest pops when he comes back. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Great dynamite last night. |
Divaman
11.04.21 | Not fully caught up with the last few weeks, but I did catch last night. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Probably the best episode of the last few weeks. Next week is gonna be epic between Punk and Kingston. I hope they do a ten minute promo against each other and it turns into a 5 or 10 minute brawl. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Did not think Aerostar and Samurai Del Sol were that impressive but overall FTR having those two segments on this show was fantastic. Malaki Blacks promo threw me off and I thought it was gonna be Pac to interfere but FTR also makes sense mostly, but Blacks promo made it sound more like Cody would be betrayed by someone with the Caesar reference. Which means that maybe more is to come. I think Arn could join Tully FTR etc maybe the Pinnacle. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Considering they set up Arn fighting Tully like that but didn't go through with it. I think maybe Arn still feels about Cody how he previously said and at this point is working on betraying Cody. If they want Cody cheered but Arn is overas a face this could be the key. Beloved Arn doing something disgustingly awful to Cody at Full Gear. |
Divaman
11.04.21 | Kingston is great on the mic, but it's hard for me to take his wrestling skills and his little apple dumpling body seriously. I was kind of horrified that they let Kingston win the Lance Archer match (although I thought that maybe they felt forced to because Archer had just knocked himself into the Twilight Zone by landing on his head.) |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | I’m still not comfortable with that flipping pin move Eddie did to Archer. If he had really been seriously injured which they couldn’t possibly have known for sure at the time, that would have made it worse. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | I agree about Eddies shape. It looks like he has gotten out of shape more since his AEW debut but he already was flabby before. It also has a lot to do with choosing the wrong ring attire. He should be more fully clothed. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Also his punches don’t look that great, looks like a guy who doesn’t even know how to fight for real and that’s supposed to be part of his gimmick. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Eddie Kingston on a Sputnikmusic rating, 3.7, just short of being a Chevelle. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Ohhh ohhh oh! 😮 we should have a wrestling rating 5 scale for everyone!! 🥰🤗🤪 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Miro is a 4.7 and Bryan Danielson is a 5.0 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Orange Cassidy is the perfect example of a 4.0 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Matt Hardy in AEW is a 3.1 AT BEST lololololol |
0GuyMan0
11.04.21 | Eddie is SO OVER with crowds that his slightly limited in-ring work barely matters imo. I think that's why the matches are always strong-style - redden a chest early and they'll believe everything you do afterword. He's also got an excellent mind for the little things, that middle finger when he was being choked out was absolutely perfect.
Also, it feels safe to assume that last night's Dynamite is what we would have gotten in STL if plans hadn't changed. Now we get Adam Cole vs. John Silver (pretty OK with that), Bunny vs. whoever (uh...) and....a promo battle? Granted it's Punk and Eddie, but come on man. Heavy shaft on these tickets. |
Divaman
11.04.21 | Yeah, that's definitely a step down. Hope they throw you some decent dark matches, at least.
As for Matt Hardy, at least Big Money Matt has been better than Teleporting Matt. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Unbelievable amount of wwe releases just happened including keith lee karrion Kross nia jax |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Franky monet, ember moon, mia yim |
Storm In A Teacup
11.04.21 | Oney Lorcan |
0GuyMan0
11.04.21 | Yeah this is kinda crazy. Lee, Moon are probably instant signs wherever they wanna go. AEW doesn't have room for all that talent. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | At this point MJF promo last night would become especially true with talent that’s been there for years getting further shoved away or down |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Most of the people who were fired signed their contract in the last 1 to 11 months.
Nia Jax
Keith Lee
Mia Yim
Karrion Kross
Eva Marie
Ember Moon
Scarlett Bordeaux
Franky Monet
Gran Metalik
Lince Dorado
Oney Lorcan
B-Fab of Hit Row
Jessi Kamea
Zayda Ramier
Trey Baxter
Katrina Cortez
Jeet Rama
Harry Smith |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Senior Vice President of Creative Services, Stan Stanski, who has been Senior VP of Creative for 15 years, also has been fired. |
AlexKzillion
11.05.21 | Keith Lee would be a fucking monster in AEW like holy shit
Also can't wait for Nia Jax/Nyla Rose tag team of injuries and destruction lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Lol at people getting fired for refusing a vaccine. Cough Kross cough Bordeaux cough Nia Ajax cough |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Guess Sasha had that star status or she finally got vaccinated |
ExhaleTheLight
11.05.21 | Its crazy to think that Nia was released as she's related to the Rock too. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | That’s what happens when you are a problem both backstage for executives and in ring with wrestlers to the point multiple spouses of female wrestlers tweet about her. I am sure no one will hire her. |
JeetJeet
11.05.21 | Bruh am I trippin or was Nia Jax released before? |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | But it still is crazy considering she is not just related but also very close to the Rocks daughter |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | U trippin jeet |
JeetJeet
11.05.21 | Welp.
I'm really the most salty about B-Fab from Hit Row getting released. She was cool and I loved what I saw from Hit Row whenever they were on TV. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | B Fab was just as shocking as anything. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Everyone hold hands and pray Nia Jax gets a job as a movie actress and never does her own stunts but most important never wrestles again (1) |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Imagine being so bad that you are a legitimate threat to destroy the future of women’s wrestling by hurting some of the biggest stars. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Scott Steiner reacted to Nia Jax being released
https://youtu.be/hV0lH4h3NGc |
AlexKzillion
11.05.21 | Scarlett hot |
Storm In A Teacup
11.05.21 | Steiner math not. When they did that segment with Punk and Eddie and Eddie kept saying I KNOW YOU it sounded just like Steiner saying CUZ EVERYBODY KNOWS 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | Rampage was great, I blinked tho and missed the women’s match. Punk is heel to me now. Arrogant and pandering. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | Excalibur agrees with me. Did you guys hear that groan? 🤣🤣 |
LunaticSoul
11.06.21 | Punk massive prick IRL confirmed |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | You guys 🤣🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/4Q1bLITtwXQ |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | https://youtu.be/4w333zf9_50
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | Cuz Kurt Angle KNOWS |
Storm In A Teacup
11.06.21 | https://youtu.be/BXqcEg5tyWU |
Divaman
11.06.21 | It was Bunny v Red Velvet. You didn't miss much. |
rufinthefury
11.06.21 | Damn that Eddie and Ounk promo segment was amazing |
AlexKzillion
11.06.21 | THIS is the shit Punk should've been doing for a while now
It's nice to see him wrestle again but these promos are what I've really been waiting for |
Storm In A Teacup
11.08.21 | I think it is weird that google prioritizes divas other two AEW threads over this one, this one should have overtaken them by now. |
Divaman
11.08.21 | This is the newest, so maybe that's why. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.08.21 | Probably but I just figured out the fastest way to find this and get it as the first result is to search divaman AEW instead of sputnikmusic aew. Helps when this doesn’t get bumped for awhile. 🙂 |
kzy
11.08.21 | Eddie promo to Punk was 🔥🔥🔥
can't wait on november, 13th. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.08.21 | I’m rooting for Kingston. |
Divaman
11.08.21 | >Eddie promo to Punk was 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, that was a great segment. |
AlexKzillion
11.08.21 | The Punk Kingston promo happened on the exact date that Moxley Kingston promo happened last year |
kzy
11.09.21 | i can imagine after that match someone showed up
*hint : someone who won the Title in Japan and take shots, fire backstage after match.
*goosebumps* |
Divaman
11.09.21 | Saw 2.0 lose as part of an 8-man tag team match on Elevation last night. Now THAT's where I should be seeing 2.0 - on Elevation. (Btw, even though they've pulled Mark Henry off of commentary on Rampage, they had him as part of the announcing team on Elevation. He can be very funny. He's definitely got to makings of a good color commentator.) |
Storm In A Teacup
11.09.21 | My guess about Mark Henry is that since he has his daily radio show maybe he was talking too much and his voice was giving out. It is the only reasonable explanation i can think of, but it's also one I've completely made up in my head. |
Divaman
11.09.21 | I just thought maybe they felt he was a little green. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.09.21 | Meh, I would trade Tony Schiavone for Mark Henry. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.09.21 | I will say this. I like Tony as a person. He seems like one of the nicest and most humble kind of person. His commentary is decent because he is likable. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.09.21 | If anyone was ever a Corey Graves fan you can have a nice moment going to YouTube to see him win the 24/7 championship last night |
Divaman
11.09.21 | I enjoy all of them. JR is getting a little long in the tooth, of course, but I think each brings something, including the wrestlers they have as commentators pretty often, Ricky Starks and Jericho. |
TheGoonFiles
11.09.21 | Dark and Elevation have the best commentary i think |
Divaman
11.09.21 | They're really good. Taz and Excalibur have a great chemistry, and Schiavone and Paul Wight are really good, too. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.09.21 | Agreed with both of you on last two comments |
AlexKzillion
11.10.21 | I love JR's AEW commentary because it's so obvious when he's into something (basically anything Punk does) and it's so obvious when he can't stand what he is watching (like the Elite/Dark Order costume tag match). |
Storm In A Teacup
11.10.21 | Yeah I like that too Alex. |
Divaman
11.10.21 | I feel weirdly protective of JR. Like when he ended that one broadcast by saying it was WWE, I cringe because I always imagine people are going to be all over him for it. The mistakes, and the repeated stock phrases don't detract from my pleasure in watching the show, except to the extent that I feel bad FOR him. For myself, I'm really glad he's there. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.10.21 | I am super happy about it too. Was watching a video yesterday of him talking about the past and then all of a sudden he’s talking about how he is fighting cancer right now. I had no idea. He is still a great announcer just being who he is. |
rufinthefury
11.10.21 | did yall read Eddie Kingston's article on Players Tribune? Shit was incredible, like that man has a real way with words even in writing. Moxley's book is good because it's an honest stream of conscious, but Eddie is like an actually good writer. And his story is friggin nuts too ofc.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/eddie-kingston-aew-wrestling
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Divaman
11.10.21 | Great article. You're right, he does have a way with words.
Do you ever watch Simon Miller of the What Culture YouTube channel? He cracks me up, because he frequently poses the question, "Does Eddie Kingston know that wresting isn't real?" |
Storm In A Teacup
11.10.21 | Completely out of left field for me but tonight it is Rocky Romero w/Orange Cassidy vs Bryan Danielson and apparently Rocky plans on having OC leave Best Friends and join CHAOS. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.10.21 | I have an idea you guys. Miro should keep his god gimmick for a few years and then it is revealed eventually in a big angle that his God is Tony Khan. |
AlexKzillion
11.10.21 | It's like poetry, it rhymes |
Storm In A Teacup
11.10.21 | Would not mind seeing Miro get angry and yelling, “KHAAAAN”. 🙂 |
Divaman
11.11.21 | Boy, Brian Cage has been completely buried lately. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.11.21 | Yeah. Did you guys know Cody Rhodes is on the roster twice? Cody is a masked luchadore, he is Fuego del sols tag partner |
Divaman
11.11.21 | Yeah, that started on Sammy's vlog. He and Fuego are supposed to be dos Fuego's. |
Divaman
11.11.21 | I bought the PPV for Saturday. I'm not actually 100% sure Hangman takes the title this time, in spite of the fact that they've been moving in this direction forever. We'll know by the results of the Danielson/Miro match. Will they give Danielson his first AEW loss? If they do, Hangman wins, and it's Hangman v Miro after that. If not, Hangman somehow falls short again, and Danielson is the one who goes on to dethrone Omega. |
Divaman
11.11.21 | I'm really rooting for Hangman, though. I think he's my favorite AEW wrestler. As for Danielson/Miro, tbh, I hate to see either of them lose that match. |
ExhaleTheLight
11.12.21 | Hope Miro goes over Danielson. I think he needs the win more. Even if his place on the card was last minute. |
Divaman
11.13.21 | Bobby Fish looks like he hurts. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.21 | I want Punk, Omega, and Danielson to lose. |
Divaman
11.13.21 | I'd be good with that. I'm not sure if any of it is going to happen, though. |
ExhaleTheLight
11.13.21 | Eddie needs the win more than CM Punk does. He's 0 - 3 in PPV's. |
Divaman
11.13.21 | I agree. But I don't know if AEW will let their golden boy lose. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.21 | Eddie! Eddie! Eddie! |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.21 | Wouldn't be surprised if the bastard was pulling a trick and Cody is really in a 1 v 3 or 1 vs 5. I hope Arn and Tully fight. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.13.21 | Alex Ahbrahantes should win manager of the year. Love the Lucha Bros and as far as I’m concerned Alex is a Lucha bro. He did a great job writing and recording their entrance music. And to get established Mexican rappers to perform your own song while you make an entrance must have been insane. |
Divaman
11.13.21 | Penta says he agrees. |
Divaman
11.14.21 | COWBOY SHIT! |
Divaman
11.14.21 | I thought for sure they were going to fuck Hangman after Danielson beat Miro. (Hope I'm not giving spoilers here.) |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT
COWBOY SHIT |
Divaman
11.14.21 | Our feed kept cutting out, too. I thought for sure we were going to miss the ending. |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Think my fave match was Darby/MJF
Also dug the six man falls count anywhere... shooting star press was crazy and Jungle Boy stepping up with the con-chair-toe was a great moment |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | I am too busy to watch this ppv unfortunately. Saw MJF vs Darby. Good stuff. Guess I’ll just read spoilers instead of watching 😞 |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Idk about yall but I hope they keep the ppvs on Saturdays... so much more convenient especially during football season |
Divaman
11.14.21 | Yeah, I hope so too.
My favorite by far was seeing Hangman take the title. I really thought they were going to screw him.
After that, my favorite was Kingston/Punk, although I wish Kingston would have won. (But I knew they'd never let that happen.) But that backhand Kingston gave Punk before the bell rang was just savage, and I loved Eddie's cry of joy when he saw he'd cut Punk open.
I thought this was a really strong PPV. |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | I thought the world title match was really good, but I'm disappointed they didn't have Hangman kick out of the one winged angel. Thought that was a huuuge missed opportunity |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Oooo I also loved when Kingston refused to shake Punk's hand lmaooo... really lived up to the "I don't care if I win or lose I am going to beat you up fuck you I don't want your respect" promo hahaha
Really hope the feud doesn't end here..... |
rufinthefury
11.14.21 | Last night was really great. Not as good as All Out imo but still top notch shit. Main Event, Eddie/Punk, and Darby/MJF were worth the cost of admission alone. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | Did they announce a new saturday show last night? |
rufinthefury
11.14.21 | Alex, that was the ultimate swerve lmfao. Hangman wasn't the first person to kick out of the OWA, they still have that in the tuck! No, the first person to kick out of a OWA is none other than Kenny himself. Loved it lol |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Yeah this was never gonna match up to All Out but that was like a once in a generation ppv
I'd rank the ppvs this year All Out >>> Double or Nothing = Full Gear >>>> Revolution
Revolution was the only one that I felt like I got kinda cheated out of... the rest were fire |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | @rufin Yeah it was a fun spot but also nobody ever gets pinned after being hit with their own finisher so it didn't really have that effect on me |
ExhaleTheLight
11.14.21 | Crowd SUCKED last night. |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Yeah sorta noticed that too towards the end. I think the one flaw of the ppvs is that they are way too long and are kinda exhausting for the live crowd. They were super hot for Darby/MJF and died down more and more with every passing match pretty much with the exception of Punk/Kingston. Britt and Tay in particular they seemed rather dead for |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | At least they chanted Eddie on the anniversary of his death in the city where he died. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | Poor Vickie |
AlexKzillion
11.14.21 | Damn I did not realize that that was the reason for all the Eddie tributes last night, I must have missed it on commentary |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | Im sure they did! 💚 Does anyone know if commentary brought it up? |
Divaman
11.14.21 | I actually enjoyed it more than All Out. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | Kingston should have won unless Punk is about to start entering title pictures. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.14.21 | Or if the feud continues |
Divaman
11.14.21 | I have a feeling they consider it such a coup to have signed Punk that they're not going to have him lose anytime soon. |
ExhaleTheLight
11.15.21 | I feel like they'll build up to Eddie finally getting a PPV win. |
AlexKzillion
11.15.21 | I could see them having another match in which Moxley returns and paradigm shifts Punk after Punk pulls some questionable tweener shenanigans behind the ref's back and Kingston getting the win that way. This feud is so good because there really isn't a face or heel and both have done questionable shit while also being super over |
kzy
11.15.21 | Jeez, Amazing PPV. tied with All Out!
in other news, Tomohiro Ishii is going to Dynamite on Wednesday in a Tag Match. which means they closely bring some member of CHAOS. if Okada showed up on AEW programs, my pants getting wet! |
rufinthefury
11.16.21 | As long as the Okada debut is kept a secret and not advertised in advance im happy |
ExhaleTheLight
11.16.21 | I think Moxley will come back to a redemption arc. Maybe redo the barbed wire death match with an actual explosion in the end. |
LunaticSoul
11.16.21 | 4 hours is a fucking long time to cheer man. Actually I watched all the ppv with headphones, and they seemed very loud. especially for Darby MJF, Punk/Kingston and Page/Omega (also the three best matches). also obscenely loud for the falls count anywhere lol
PPV was great top to bottom. maybe the best card AEW has ever done |
rufinthefury
11.17.21 | If you havent watched the Fallout video that AEW posted on their youtube channel I highly recommend it.
Heel CM Punk is coming and it's coming quick imo |
Divaman
11.17.21 | That's his natural role, as far as I'm concerned. |
TheGoonFiles
11.17.21 | Taz is the best on commentary. One of the main reasons I actually watch Dark. |
ResidentNihilist
11.17.21 | Honestly hope aew dies. The constant narcissism, over sensitivity and toxicity from their owner, the evps and their fans makes me really wanna see them get bought out by wwe. |
kzy
11.17.21 | rufinthefury
Actually, It's just started. but still finding good time to executed his heel turn. kinda awkward when the "Punk" euphoria was stopped after someone who have been waiting for 7 yearz turn the dark side. but i feel optimistic if this would be happen.
Shida promo after match was great tho. she improving her english skills by the time being. |
LunaticSoul
11.17.21 | ResidentNihilist name checks out
let´s not turn this into a WWE v AEW thread
this is the best YT content by far btw. The Good, The Bad, The Elite. watched it yesterday as a movie, man the story rocked tbh. can´t believe how watching a comedy show on YT was important to get all the nuances https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0YJgm6Auz8
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Storm In A Teacup
11.17.21 | Sounds like narcissist knows nothing about WWE. |
AlexKzillion
11.17.21 | Idk if nihilist is one but I'll never understand these WWE lifers who shit on AEW lol. Like legit just does not compute in my brain. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Holy fuck y'all that was a roller coaster of a first 30 minutes of Dynamite. Holy shit! |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | I dont understand what just happened when Butcher body hit Ishii and he stood there almost went in ring then decided to start selling and flopped off the apron. Did he almost start shoot fighting Butcher? Did he not understand the spot? |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | He also started holding the side of his head. Did he get walloped for real and almost lose his temoer then decide to go off the apron instead? So confused |
0GuyMan0
11.18.21 | "The constant narcissism, over sensitivity and toxicity from their owner..."
I mean FUCKING LOL tho
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kzy
11.18.21 | Something.... unexpected lol
Looking forward for Punk vs MJF feud |
rufinthefury
11.18.21 | Lethal v Guevara is oh so good my lord |
rufinthefury
11.18.21 | fucking AWESOME episode of Dynamite |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Yeah maybe a top 10 all time Dynamite. Definitely a 5/5 tv show episode regardless. |
ExhaleTheLight
11.18.21 | I've always enjoyed Danielson as a heel. I think he will beat Hangman for the title. |
rufinthefury
11.18.21 | no chance that happens. Heel Punk tho? he might do it |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Think it’s MJF at Revolution beating Hanger for the title. Everything right now is a big season premiere basically to get hype and hopefully grow tv ratings. 🙏 🙏 🙏 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Winter Is Coming fun predictions
Hangman vs Bryan Danielson
CM Punk vs MJF
Lio Rush and Dante Martin vs Hook and Ricky Starks
PAC vs Cody vs Andrade vs Black
Sammy G vs Eddie Kingston for TNT Title rematch
Ruby Soho vs Nyla Rose
Jamie Hayter vs Jade Cargill
Britt Baker vs Mia Yim |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Also RIP for the first major run by Kenny Omega in AEW. Hopefully those shoulders and everything else recover well. And if he needs 6 months or a whole year, then that means he can come back amazing. |
Divaman
11.18.21 | >Think it’s MJF at Revolution beating Hanger for the title.
Horrifying, but possible. |
AlexKzillion
11.18.21 | Yeah I have a feeling Hangman's title run won't be anywhere near as long as Jericho/Mox/Kenny. Hangman's story was always about the journey to the top of the mountain, not so much actually being there. I can def see him losing it at revolution |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Agreed Alex. And to add on I think it being a short reign will make it more memorable. One title win, one clean defense against Bryan, one loss that is dirty as hell. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | Think Bryan should be mad and cut a promi the next night about wanting a rematch and my dream booking would be Bray Wyatt attacks him. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | This could be a huge run for MJF. Beat Darby, Punk, Hangman all dirty all within half a year. Biggest heel ever. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.18.21 | And of course if im right about mjf we will have to roll our eyes when chris jericho says he deserves some credit for mjf |
AlexKzillion
11.18.21 | Bryan is so fucking great man. The matches, THE PROMOS, all of it |
Divaman
11.19.21 | I love Danielson. Not really thrilled if he's going heel right now. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | The way they did it was great. Very confused that people in general on YouTube etc aren’t sure if he turned. I think he is obviously a mega heel now. Literally is happy to kick Colts head in in Chicago in a premeditated kind of way |
AlexKzillion
11.19.21 | I wouldn't even say he "turned". This is who he's been since his first press conference. "Punk might be here to help the young guys, but I'm here to kick all their heads in". I don't think he's heel or face, he's the guy that is better than everybody and is there solely to beat everybody and that is it, and he plays up his face/heel traits based on who he's feuding with. |
AlexKzillion
11.19.21 | The upstart fan favorites that helped build AEW versus the rich WWE guys riding the coat tails to selfishly relive their glory days is honestly the best types of angles they can do with Punk and Bryan tbh... because at the end of the day that's real. |
LunaticSoul
11.19.21 | "He also started holding the side of his head. Did he get walloped for real and almost lose his temoer then decide to go off the apron instead? So confused"
Literal Slowpoke reaction, thing is Butcher kinda wiffed and Ishii was probably unsure whether to sell or not lol - kayfabe probably ISHII has shown fat resistance skills on the moment, holding on to the pain and then collapsing (very strong style).
Anyway seeing Ishii in AEW made me so happy. He´s the dude |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | I just came up with an idea. If I were Tony Khan I would do this as my next major step. An all womens ppv on January 1st to go against WWE Day 1 PPV.
Britt Baker vs Nyla Rose for title Britt wins
Womens tnt #1 contender royal rumble Thunder rosa wins
Shida vs Deeb
Thunder Rosa vs Ruby Soho tbs title Ruby wins
Anna Jay vs Tay Conti
Taya Valkrie vs Rosemary |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | Make it a 3 hour ppv with 120+ minutes of wrestling not counting entrances. 😍 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | Also i would make Britt beat Nyla in the shortest match of the night. Her last major defense victory before losing the title to Thunder Rosa. |
AlexKzillion
11.19.21 | Yepp Rosa is on the horizon and I'm excited. |
Divaman
11.19.21 | I wouldn't buy it. Right now, their women's division still isn't interesting enough. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | 😪 damnit |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | What if Serena Deeb kidnaps Shida and throws her off a tall building and shida comes back as a ghost gimmick? We haven't had a good kidnapping in almost a year! |
Storm In A Teacup
11.19.21 | 😃😃😃 |
Divaman
11.19.21 | Nah. Talk to me about Abadon, though. I had a whole pitch where Vickie Guerrero got ahold of some amulet that allowed her to control Abadon. And Nyla and Abadon were running roughshod over the whole women's division, even though from time to time, it was clear that Abadon was angry and didn't want to be controlled. And finally, the babyface woman of your choice (I suggested Kris Statlander, but it could be Ruby Soho, or almost anyone) teamed up with the librarian, who did the research and discovered Vickie was using the amulet to control Abadon. And based on this info, Statlander destroyed the amulet and Abadon did a whole face turn and turned on Nyla and Vickie.
They never use Abadon well. And how can you not use a wrestler who has a whole indie fanbase that likes to chant, "Eat her soul! Eat her soul!" during her matches. |
Divaman
11.19.21 | AEW's problem is that for the most part, either their best wrestlers have horrible mic skills (like Shida), and their wrestlers with the best mic skills (Britt) don't always have the wrestling skills to match. (Although Britt's ring skills have definitely gotten better). The most well-rounded ones seem to be Thunder Rosa and now Ruby Soho. |
AlexKzillion
11.19.21 | Abadon should 1000% be aligned with Malakai Black as a Chyna type figure idk how nobody there has figured that out yet. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | They definitely use abadon like a sign that says jobber is taped to her back. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | Kris Statlander is ridiculously underused. I feel bad I forgot about her in my ppv pitch. |
LunaticSoul
11.20.21 | Abadon is green af folks. Why do you want to overexpose talent that is a b s o l u t e l y not ready for TV on a weekly basis. TK books midcarder v main eventer most times during dynamite/rampage, and the issue with the women roster is that the midcard is green af. Few good matches are better than a lot of very average ones, and we see improvement in green talent over a year (Jade/Red Velvet was their best match ever, Tay did a great job at the PPV although still needs to improve a bit, and yeah that Shida/Rose match on Dynamite was great but they are two made talents and AEW fucking loathes doing rematches). |
LunaticSoul
11.20.21 | Also the men roster has way more nuanced storylines because they started EARLIER. Like, you have The elite, and they have a 6+ year backstory with half of the roster, if not more. You can literally do a "neutral/positive/neg" alignment with a storyline attached. They are not there YET with the women, because they started later and because they have green talent.
They however really need to strap a rocket to the moon at a face talent, there is literally nobody as over as Britt and that will be a problem in the long run. Women wrestling needs better nuanced storytelling, and it is the booker that needs to craft it, but also takes a long time. All Britt defences looked like NJPW title feuds (beat one face, there comes the other, multi-women tags where heel does heel stuff, title defense, heel wins, onto next challenger) and they really need to give her better stories imho. We pretty much all know that Rosa will slot in as the top face, but they really need to build her up. Like a loss against Hayter and some self-doubt, something in the middle (e.g. a big bout at winter is coming) then win title at Revolution.... story writes itself.
In the meantime, the TBS championship tournament has been really well paced and provided all good matches. If you can't see the improvement between 2020 AEW and 2021 AEW in terms of the women roster, you are pretty blind lol |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | I don’t agree with even half what you said lol. I can remember Abadon has been wrestling since at least 2017 so she isn’t THAT green, Anna Jay is more green than Abadon lol |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | I get and understand that most wrestlers need at least ten years to realize their potential but they get used like they aren't green after 5 years in almost all cases. Only people like Dakota Kai and Aliyah in NXT have gotten that kind of treatment. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | So to say “green af” about Abadon. Hell no, completely disagree, absolutely not. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | Diva back me up! 😃 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | Casey Catanzaro is an example of someone you could say all that about but then honestly she sucks and shouldn’t be wrestling. |
Divaman
11.20.21 | I'd say Abadon is a little green (and also has a tendency to let herself get out of shape). BUT she's also far and away one of the more interesting wrestlers on the roster, and she's shown in some of the subsidiary vlogs (BTE and The Bunny's show) that when you ask her to, she has a flair for comedy as well. |
Divaman
11.20.21 | I also think they should have signed to the regular roster KiLyn King. I don't think they did. I don't have the time to watch Dark and Elite regularly, but I don't think she's been wrestling with them since they left Jacksonville. |
AlexKzillion
11.20.21 | I think Charlotte will join AEW in 2022 |
Divaman
11.20.21 | Very possible. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | Funny Diva, King I actually looked up last night and saw she was the champion for an indie promotion I've never heard of or didn't recognize. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.20.21 | From 2019 to 2020 I assumed Abadon was 35 to 45 years old and retiring in a couple years. Shows how good her character visually is, also might be why I never thought of her as green and thought she was just old. |
LunaticSoul
11.20.21 | Idk guys, the non gimmick Abadon matches that lasted more than 5 mins are three. I also have never seen her in a mid tier match pretty much lol, they're all squashes, she just works with the joshis and that is usually the AEW way of training people (the joshis have larger experience than anybody else in roster pretty much).
I also did not speak specifically about Abadon in post no.2 and it is very obvious Anna is green lol
Abadon started wrestling in jan 2019 btw according to cagematch.
her longest match in the fed is SEVEN MINUTES and it was her last one lol
she's very complex to book also |
Divaman
11.20.21 | All I can tell, you, though, is that at least when they use Abadon, I'm interested. Half of the gals on their roster just make my eyes glaze over. If I have to watch Jade Cargill stomp a mud hole in Red Velvet one more time, I don't know what I'll do. And the Japanese gal who who looks like a chubby Elton John is a friggin cartoon character.
Every week, AEW books 3 matches for Rampage, and I think to avoid the criticism that they're not showcasing the women enough, one of the matches (usually the middle one) is always a women's match. And inevitably, it's always the worst match on the show.
That's why I laughed at the person who asked Tony Khan if he was going to do an all women's ppv. Who is going to buy it, with the state of their women's roster right now? I know I'm not. If he did it, it would be for the sole reason of avoiding the criticism that AEW isn't supporting women's wrestling enough. But I'm sure he'd take a financial loss on it.
Storm is right that a lot of it has to do with them not developing the women's storylines very well, though. |
AlexKzillion
11.20.21 | I thought last night was one of the best rampages in a while
Billy Gunn/Darby was way better than I would've expected... had no opinion of Billy Gunn before this match but I like him as a heel a lot. Old attitude era boomer body builder who just manhandles all the younger/smaller guys but also completely underestimates their offense. Dude is basically a giant by AEW standards and I hope they use him more. His sons come off like complete asshats too its great.
Jade/Red Velvet was actually really good as well... the best match I've seen from either of them especially Jade. Speaking of long term storylines in the women's division... Red Velvet will beat Jade one day and it will be glorious
Jurassic Express/Not Undisputed Era was also a lot of fun. Really like Bobby Fish tbh. |
Divaman
11.25.21 | Pretty funny Wardlow match on AEW Dark last night. I don't know who that little dude was that was fighting against him, but Wardlow was getting some impressive height throwing him. |
kzy
11.25.21 | What a Main event on This week Dynamite. Crowd throw cody's belt through the ring. |
LunaticSoul
11.25.21 | -He will throw stuff in the crowd until someone throws it back at him (John Cena style)
PREDICTED THIS HAPPENING ON 30/10, check the thread bois. my Cody bingo is done |
Storm In A Teacup
11.25.21 | @lunatic soul Abadon started training in 2017 and signed to Rocky Mountain Pro in 2018, eventually winning their women's championship 2 times. |
Divaman
11.25.21 | Highlight of the show last night for me was absolutely the promo battle between Punk and MJF. |
AlexKzillion
11.25.21 | fucking hilarious main event omg
Cody got fucking jumped in the corner and everyone cheered.
Punk/MJF promo battle was amazing as expected |
AlexKzillion
11.25.21 | "-He will over-do his entrances
-He will pull a "don't boo me" promo
-He will heel it up so people boo him even more, but keeping the facey smile
-He will fake a Pedigree
-He will win a feud-match clean
-He will throw stuff in the crowd until someone throws it back at him (John Cena style)"
It took him less than a month to accomplish all of this jfc |
Storm In A Teacup
11.26.21 | Yup you did call it. It's almost like they are doing a proper booking of the John cena character and fast tracking everything cena has been and soon we will see a new direction that is what they think the proper evolution of the cena character is instead of never evolving. That or they have no idea and are booking cody awful. |
Divaman
11.26.21 | I kept falling asleep through most of the show. Not the show's fault, I just couldn't keep my eyes open. |
LunaticSoul
11.26.21 | The Punk MJF promo was a banger
I was also completely zoned out after that promo, I feel like I had enough wrestling after that one ahahah |
ExhaleTheLight
11.27.21 | Promo was good but definitely wayyy to long. I do love how MJF has nicknames now for his rivals; PG Punk, Dictator Jon, etc… |
Divaman
11.27.21 | Last night was a mixed bag. Was there ever any doubt that Yuta was going to take the pin in the opening match? Britt/Riho wasn't bad, and Kingston/Garcia was as good as it could be, given how much I just love to see Garcia and 2.0 on one of the main shows. |
AlexKzillion
11.27.21 | I thought Britt losing clean to Riho was pretty wack but I dug the rest of the show
Also HOW DID I FORGET TO MENTION DARBY TRUCKING THAT GUNN KID OUT THE TUNNEL lmaoooo that shit was insane |
Divaman
11.27.21 | I was glad that they remembered that A. Riho WAS the first AEW Women's Champion, and B. She was never granted a title rematch. I thought that Britt might lose last night, given that it was a non-title match.
I like Riho. The only real knock on her is her size. |
AlexKzillion
11.27.21 | Yeah no issue with Riho personally... just that basically nobody except really Rosa and Jade has been built even remotely close to Britt's level, but then she loses clean to someone we haven't seen on TV in like 3-6 months.
It all circles back to AEW's terrible booking of the women's division.
They would've been way better off doing the reverse and have Hayter lose clean to Rosa and then doing the screwy botch finish to have Britt lose. Not sure what the point was of protecting Hayter against a stronger opponent and not Britt against a weaker opponent. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.28.21 | I like that they protected Hayter and think she should be protected. She is a power house with as much or more potential than Tay Conti, or Anna Jay. |
Divaman
11.28.21 | You think? I don't know, I haven't seen that yet. Although I think it's pretty clear that at some point, you're going to see her turn on Britt. |
0GuyMan0
11.29.21 | I don't get why Rosa / Stat aren't featured more, their matches are always fantastic and both are so different from everyone else in the division. |
AlexKzillion
11.29.21 | I think Rosa is gonna beat Britt for the title at the next ppv, if not sooner
Or at least... I really want her to
A part of me feels like they are gonna keep the belt on Britt for a looong time though... just because she's by far the biggest star in the women's division coupled with the way they only book one real womens match at the ppvs. Even felt awkward pre-title reign when she got way more TV time than Shida despite Shida being champion. |
Divaman
11.29.21 | They could always have Rosa win the first TV title. |
Divaman
11.30.21 | Saw Diamante tonight on Elevation. I had forgotten that she even existed. She really got screwed over by Ivilisse leaving. |
0GuyMan0
12.01.21 | I mean she's gone for good reason |
Divaman
12.01.21 | Yes, she is. But it's unfortunate she torpedoed any momentum Diamente had with her on the way out. Wasn't a huge fan of their team, but still, sucks for Diamente. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.01.21 | Sucks Ivilesse turned out how she did. The match she and Son of Havok and Angelico had to win the trios tag titles was one of my top 5 favorite matches at one point. The Angelico building dive is still one of my top 5 favorite spots ever. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.01.21 | https://youtu.be/ifP7tVo6DZ8 |
Storm In A Teacup
12.01.21 | Even Matt Strikers commentary was perfect a great set up and a great reaction. Just perfect. You know something crazy has happened if the void I mean voice no I mean void of Matt Striker doesn’t ruin something and it’s still 6/5. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.01.21 | That video is less than a minute I highly recommend all of you watch it. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.01.21 | That being said Angelico has been a joke in AEW in multiple ways and the magic he created in LU is gone on his AEW run. I blame booking. |
0GuyMan0
12.01.21 | Yeah that dive is tight. He's good. |
Divaman
12.01.21 | I would have liked to see him and Evans treated better. I like them better than a lot of the teams that got a much bigger push. |
Divaman
12.02.21 | Just watched Dynamite. Geez. That's got to be a violation of the Atlanta fire codes. |
TheGoonFiles
12.02.21 | Tony Schiavone singing Ruby Soho lol, also I wanted to run in there and peel Cody's back so bad |
Divaman
12.02.21 | Before or after he was on fire? |
AlexKzillion
12.03.21 | Cody took 150% of that flaming table bump lmao |
Divaman
12.03.21 | Yes he did. Not sure if that was by design - I suspect that it was. But they were literally still trying to put him out during the pin. |
AlexKzillion
12.04.21 | I've come to the conclusion
Sammy's vlog > BTE |
Divaman
12.04.21 | Agree 100%. I've stopped even watching BTE. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.04.21 | Another great Dynamite, next week is hyped |
Divaman
12.04.21 | Rampage was decent last night. The Sammy match and the tag team match were good, and the Jade Cargill match was just a squash match, but it was an excuse for her and Thunder Rosa to brawl after the match and have to be pulled apart. I enjoyed the show. |
TheGoonFiles
12.08.21 | The commentary is so good on both Dark and Elevation. Taz and Eddie Kingston make me lol so damn much. |
Pheromone
12.08.21 | can someone shoutbox me when chuck taylor wins the belt then i will watch again |
Divaman
12.08.21 | That might be awhile. |
Pheromone
12.08.21 | you can shoutbox me before then if you'd like |
Divaman
12.08.21 | That would be better. |
Divaman
12.09.21 | OK Dynamite last night, but kind of mediocre. Once again, I liked the stuff w/MJF. Thought it was a little weird that Punk (and AEW) decided to make all of Long Island a heel place, but OK. The Battle Royale seemed a little more disorganized than usual, and didn't love the Bucks/Chaos (or Best Friends) match. Hayter/Riho was OK, as was Danielson/Silver (although there was never a doubt of the end result with the latter, or with either of them really.) I saw the Dante Martin thing coming a mile away, although the whole bit w/MJF briefly seeming to embrace the babyface role was pretty good. The 8-man tag team didn't do anything for me, except for the Malaki Black part. |
Divaman
12.09.21 | Oh, but it was good to see Sue make her return. And what's his face, her son. |
bloc
12.09.21 | Damn, buried by his own mom |
Divaman
12.09.21 | That filmed intro for MJF was pretty funny. |
AlexKzillion
12.09.21 | Haven't caught Dynamite yet but saw Jeff Hardy got released by WWE... would love to see him in AEW idgaf how old he is I love the dude |
Pheromone
12.09.21 | haha i watched it just for the chaos / bf match
hope they put the title on sue soon before the hype dies |
Divaman
12.09.21 | You take that back! The hype for Sue will never die. |
TheGoonFiles
12.11.21 | Hook's in-ring debut was perfect. Dude carried himself like a star. And hearing Taz overcome with joy on commentary was awesome. Also props to Fuego Del Sol. I want Hook to beat Sammy for the TNT belt now. |
Divaman
12.11.21 | I missed it last night. I'll have to watch it later today. |
AlexKzillion
12.11.21 | Man I am shocked at how good Hook was lmao |
TheGoonFiles
12.11.21 | I mean Taz is his dad so he's probably had some killer training lol, but yeah even I was a bit shocked. He has the it factor for sure. |
Divaman
12.11.21 | He definitely has a good heel face - very slappable. |
AlexKzillion
12.11.21 | Oh yeah him being good makes sense considering that... but the way they've hidden him from doing anything physical for a year+ when he looks more comfortable grappling than 90% of the roster is what makes it so shocking. Like they never even gave him dark matches or anything, made it seem like he wasn't anywhere near ready.
If he can add like 20lbs and obviously get a few more matches under his belt I can easily see him holding a belt in the next couple years. Dude doesn't even need to talk just have Taz or Starks do the talking for him. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.11.21 | I mean jeff was released for refusing rehab after another in ring incident. Probably best for Jeff to retire. |
Storm In A Teacup
12.11.21 | Hook a future star agreed. Looked great in debut |
Divaman
12.11.21 | Just watched it. Taz did sound pretty proud. |
AlexKzillion
12.11.21 | Between this match and the two Miro squashes, Fuego Del Sol has weirdly been apart of a lot of my favorite matches over the past 3-6 months. Dude is absolutely perfect in his role. |
TheGoonFiles
12.12.21 | He'll go down as a GOAT jobber for sure lol |
TheGoonFiles
12.16.21 | Hmm, I might be in the minority but I wasn't that thrilled with the Hangman vs Bryan match. I was predicating every single move about to happen through the whole thing and it started bugging me, I wanted some unpredictability. Once it went 40 mins I knew it would end in a draw. Not that invested in this story line.
I wanna see Tully vs Sting ASAP |
AlexKzillion
12.17.21 | The fact that they were only advertising like three matches kinda gave it away as well
Thought it was a really good match... and I completely understand why they booked it like they did... but yeah these time limit draws are kinda wack tbh. Not that the idea in and of itself is bad, but like they never make any mention of a time limit on commentary in any match ever. They didn't even mention the time limit in the Kenny/Bryan match until the match was over... and they barely even made it a point of emphasis in this one until there was like five minutes left. |
LunaticSoul
12.17.21 | Yeah I kind of agree, but to be honest the last 30 mins fucked very hard, it was very good wrasslin´.
An odd point to this, is that it seems Danielson and time limit draws are like. . . a thing. He had THIRTY-FOUR of them in career. Like that´s a huge number.
I guess they wanted to go for the lore of the draw, although considering the Omega one just happened, yeah, I guess to be honest the match was very good, and proved Hangman can do like the NJPW styled main events, and this year I had a deficit of those, I feel like complaining over this match is a bit too much
But yeah as I said somewhere else, this WiC did not kickstart ANYTHING, while last year´s WiC was like the entry point for 2021 AEW. |
TheGoonFiles
12.17.21 | Danielson has mentioned before that he can wrestle for hours in the ring so it doesn't surprise me at all. What WOULD have been dope is if Bryan just kneed him from the get go and win. I understand AEW is trying to pull out longer matches since WWE loves there 2 minute roll up matches, but it's becoming too predictable at this point.
Dante Martin vs MJF was much more enjoyable for me. |
AlexKzillion
12.21.21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07O-pHZ8XVM&ab_channel=PromoJoe |
AlexKzillion
12.26.21 | HOOK JUST NO SOLD A PILEDRIVER
STING STYLE |
rufinthefury
12.28.21 | I love Hook so much. How is he so good after being so hyped lol |
0GuyMan0
12.29.21 | I honestly think they planned for Mox to be the first real test for Hangman to complete his heel turn, and what we got was just the best they could come up with in the middle of the tourney. IMO Miro might have been better, so Hangman could get a resolute, impressive win, but at least we got a really interesting full Danielson turn.
It's possible that Hangman works better in pursuit than he does in possession, but I believe in him still. I'm looking for him to carry this through a couple good feuds, starting with beating Danielson, and ending with MJF taking the belt off him for nuclear heat. |
AlexKzillion
12.29.21 | Yep completely agree about Mox
I think Bryan is almost toooo strong a heel to not take the belt off Hangman. Bryan wrestles and dominates every week while Hangman... just hangs out? Bryan gets the best of Hangman on the mic every time. Bryan just took him 60 minutes and is getting a rematch. Part of it is Bryan having one of the best runs of his career, but I def feel like they haven't done a good enough job presenting Hangman as a real equal besides... well... merely holding the belt. |
rufinthefury
12.30.21 | Tonight's Dynamite was 90% good with every segment being enjoyable except for the wretched Dan Lambert v Brandi shit |
rufinthefury
01.01.22 | Tony Khan is a fucking idiot |
AlexKzillion
01.01.22 | Yeah that's a pretty terrible tweet to put out as the CEO or whatever.
Think Swole had a lot of interesting stuff to say about the structure of AEW, but I'm not sure I entirely agree on AEW lacking diversity, at least talent wise. It's really only the men's world title picture that truly lacks it. |
LunaticSoul
01.01.22 | Tony tweeting like a carny
But yeah there's like some absurd takes on this such as Lio making it a anti-black thing and demanding apologies lol or Darius Lockhart who totally looks and wrestles like a nobody and his fucking flashdrives-handling
AEW lacks diversity in the main event scene with just zero names available on the market, so I really have no idea who swole would like to see other than maybe herself.
I have never been personally a big Lethal fan, and he's too new to the company to be a legit contendent for anything really, not in the ballpark of like the first 3 champs who were made stars, and they literally just put the title over a star they want to make now. it's a bunch of non-sense
AEW has a lot of talent especially in the women division that were not at all ready for TV time. It's not like there are all suddenly all these passed up talents. The only one I can think of that like disappeared, is Kiera Hogan, who like literally complained about not getting TV time one month in the company to dirtsheets, how will that fair well in any company?
On Tony: what a fucking stupid tweet man.
TK is a CEO and as a CEO he just crafted a PR disaster
TK is probably an idiot, and a child billionnaire
Also, social media are fucking terrible and I am so happy I am not american each day I wake up lol |
AlexKzillion
01.01.22 | I think she's the first wrestler to talk about "dark-fatigue" (as in, being stuck wrestling on dark). Gotta think a lot of the better more experienced talents gotta feel that way too to some extent.
Think were really gonna start seeing the effects of roster bloat over the next couple months. |
AlexKzillion
01.01.22 | I'm not really much of a no-dq/street fight fan these days......... but GODDAMN did that girls rampage match slap. Like they really went all out with that one lmao. |
Divaman
01.01.22 | The only time Big Swoll was interesting was when they had her working with Britt, and Britt was injured for most of that time. |
AlexKzillion
01.01.22 | Her tagging with Red Velvet was def one of the highlights of dark 6~ months ago, agreed otherwise. I do agree with Tony that her in-ring work did not warrant bringing her back (who knows if that's actually why tho lmao)... I swear she was a botchamania/AEWbotches staple for like the entirety of AEW's existence |
Divaman
01.01.22 | I've been watching a lot less frequently since the influx of WWE wrestlers. I don't have a particular reason - I've just been finding it less interesting. I've hardly watched at all since the last PPV. |
TheGoonFiles
01.01.22 | Ya that street fight was one of the most entertaining women's matches I've ever seen. So awesome. |
bloc
01.04.22 | lmao the Tony tweet is unbelievable. Does he not have a PR team backing him up or what |
rufinthefury
01.04.22 | Clearly not. |
JeetJeet
01.04.22 | "I do agree with Tony that her in-ring work did not warrant bringing her back (who knows if that's actually why tho lmao)"
The thing is he did an interview a while back where he actually said he liked Swole and gave her some praise, so now him pulling a complete 180 just looks so weak and lame lol. Bro is just wrong on all fronts. |
bloc
01.04.22 | She isn't even that bad of a wrestler. And there's definitely some truth to what she said.
And then there's the issue of did she ask for her release, or did Tony release her because he didn't like her wrestling... |
rufinthefury
01.04.22 | If we want to start examining the details of the statement then I'm on the side of "Swole got let go because her Crohn's wouldnt let her perform that often," but at the end of the day Tony should have never sent that tweet even if he was 100% right. Like dude needs to know when to shut the fuck up. |
rufinthefury
01.05.22 | Supposedly Jacksonville Jaguar fans are staging a protest where they all show up to the game in clown costumes because their team is so fucking ass. TK down bad this new year lmfao |
bloc
01.05.22 | Man is focusing too much on wrestling and not enough on football...I think it's time, like never before, to merge the two sports together...I present the AEFL!!!!! |
LunaticSoul
01.05.22 | I have no clue why would someone manage a football team, a murican football team, and then just focus on their pet project as booker, with all that money. just fucking delegate the teams to competent people? |
rufinthefury
01.05.22 | Regal got fired. He's an instant hire for AEW imo. |
Divaman
01.06.22 | Doesn't his father run the football team? |
AlexKzillion
01.06.22 | Tony's official titles are:
AEW: Co-owner, President & CEO
Fulham F.C.: Co-owner, Vice Chairman/Director of Football Operations
Jacksonville Jaguars: Co-owner, Senior Vice President of Football Technology and Analytics |
AlexKzillion
01.06.22 | Ngl I respect Tony for putting seemingly all his time into what I'd guess is the least important / profitable of those ventures. |
Divaman
01.06.22 | AEW is really a passion project. I respect it too. I can understand how Big Swole feels the way she does, but the truth is the morale of most AEW Wrestlers based on the way Tony treats them seems way higher than the morale of most WWE wrestlers based on the way Vince treats them. I think that's why Tony sometimes takes it very personal when one of his wrestlers or ex-wrestlers does criticize him. I think he prides himself on being the good one. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.06.22 | Why did he throw his arm out??!!? 🤢😳😭 it was tucked in when luchasaurus started to throw him down. That was one of the worst injuries ive ever seen. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.06.22 | I hardly imagine fullham is 1/10 as popular as aew. And the Jags? Lmao |
rufinthefury
01.06.22 | Rey's arm oh god |
SlothcoreSam
01.06.22 | Arms should not bend that way!
OUCH |
bloc
01.06.22 | Christ I just saw the injury, yeah that was bad |
rufinthefury
01.06.22 | https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1479137050464976896?s=21
I hope Alvarez is right and it really is just a bad dislocation rather than a break. |
LunaticSoul
01.06.22 | Fenix confirmed there is no broken bones, and therefore also confirmed he is a X man. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.08.22 | Shocking to see, Smackdown they announced Impact Knockouts Champion Mickie James is coming to the Royal Rumble. Pat McAfee said on Smackdown that the Impact Knockout Champ is bringing an axe to grind with the garbage that happened here in the past. Oh my! |
AlexKzillion
01.09.22 | That's only because they've fired too many wrestlers to do a full womens rumble!
Half kidding hahaha but yeah that's crazy to see even if it is a future WWE-HoFer. Baby steps I guess!
I want to see Moose in the men's rumble |
AlexKzillion
01.09.22 | Dustin/Sammy was awesome.
I kinda getting annoyed at the whole "pull out a table in a regular match" schtick. Like it's cool but I feel like it's getting a little overdone in AEW |
Storm In A Teacup
01.10.22 | If Mickie James wins the rizzumble that'd be cray |
Storm In A Teacup
01.10.22 | And she retained against Purazzo so she can bring the belt out in her entrance |
Divaman
01.10.22 | >I kinda getting annoyed at the whole "pull out a table in a regular match"
Tables are kind of overdone in general these days. I enjoy a good match with improvised weaponry, but the half the time, tables don't make much sense.
I've got a guy down and I've got the momentum. So do I keep pressing my advantage? No. Instead, I start rooting around under the ring, and often, I have to move around to a different side to find what I want. Then, I go through the trouble of pulling out a full-size table and setting it up. And 90% of the time, by the time I have it set up and I'm about to use it against my opponent in some fashion, he's recovered and he uses it on me. Very silly. |
Divaman
01.10.22 | Btw, for those who enjoy an entirely different kind of combat sport, the new season of Battlebots just put up its first episode on A&E within the last couple of days. |
rufinthefury
01.13.22 | "Beyond Beef Cowboy" LMFAOOOO |
AlexKzillion
01.14.22 | Last night was fun. Britt being apart of the elite super clique redragon conglomerate is cool. Punk/Wardlow/MJF stuff was great as always.
Lance Archer being next in line for Hangman? Yawn. Deeb/Shida feud getting ruined by endless rematches that go nowhere.
Also speaking of things AEW likes to do a looooot now... surprise roll up wins out of nowhere. Punk and Dante Martin did it in back to back matches last night... Riho, Daniel Garcia x2 all off the top of my head in the past couple weeks or so. I personally kinda hate these finishes cause I just do not believe it takes that long to mentally process that you're being pinned. |
LunaticSoul
01.14.22 | yeah the Punk-Wardlow Hobbs-Martin back to back was such a stupid thing, same type of match back to back. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.14.22 | I wanted Archer to be built like a mainstay main talent and he is just always getting misused. Don’t like this one bit. |
AlexKzillion
01.14.22 | Agreed. Nothing wrong with Archer himself, they just do the most stupid shit with him. Hard to take him seriously when he seemingly loses 90% of the TV matches he's in.
Feel like they do that to every hos tbh. Archer, Hobbs, Wardlow, Nyla Rose... present them as these completely unstoppable forces and then job them out when the bell finally rings against every non-dark tier opponent |
ExhaleTheLight
01.17.22 | I have a bad feeling with Adam Cole/Britt Baker and Redragon. Feels like it's gonna be redundant, |
LunaticSoul
01.17.22 | Last Dynamite sucked
Last Rampage ruled |
AlexKzillion
01.17.22 | If this was WWE, there would 100% be a romance angle between Rebel and Brandon Cutler. |
ExhaleTheLight
01.17.22 | I miss Mox and Omega. |
AlexKzillion
01.17.22 | Damn now that you bring them up, I really miss them too. Not like AEW is short on main event players right now... but besides the Punk/MJF stuff there isn't really anything all that interesting going on now that Hangman has vanquished Danielson. |
AlexKzillion
01.17.22 | I think were def gonna get a house of black vs sting/darby feud in 2022 |
veninblazer
01.18.22 | MOXLEY IS COMING BACK TOMORROW LET'S FUCKING GO |
AlexKzillion
01.19.22 | Was watching Sammy's vlog and he kissed Tay Conti on the lips. Didn't this man just propose to his gf in front of a sold out crowd like a month or two ago lmao |
0GuyMan0
01.19.22 | they ended that relationship, I'm pretty sure. I think he and Tay might be together now.
I think I fucking hate Sammy. He's athletic, but there's zero depth to his character and I could give a fuck about any of his matches literally ever. He's definitely a better heel than face, but yeah, I don't buy him really.
I gotta say I'm a little disappointed in how Hangman has been presented since he won. the danielson matches were classics obv, but he's basically absent and doesn't exactly feel like a champion when he walks out there in goofy shit like he did last week. I love the guy, but I hope he steps up his game (or TK steps up his booking). |
AlexKzillion
01.19.22 | I tend to really enjoy his matches but I agree that his babyface persona is a bit see-through and only as strong as the heels he's facing really. Think a big part of that is he's nearly always in Jericho's shadow. Even as TNT champion he's teaming with Jericho on ppv.
As for Hangman, I think they're doing an awful job of booking him. Dude is the world champ and feels like an after thought nearly every week he hasn't wrestled Danielson. They need Mox back to feud with him ASAP |
veninblazer
01.19.22 | That relationship's been over, people have been harassing the hell out of Tay for it calling her a "homewrecker" and all that bullshit. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.19.22 | I'm sooooo ready for the Rebel Hayter Baker drama that's surely coming sooner or later. Rebel is funny, Baker is a star, and Hayter is a powerhouse bombshell with huge potential still. Just that one feud alone between the 3 would be amazing potential. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.19.22 | Rebel has played her character perfectly this wjole time even tho she doesn't do much she always manages to do something extra every time. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.19.22 | Oh...kay |
veninblazer
01.19.22 | if Rosa doesnt take the belt off Britt i hope Jamie does
jesus christ Jamie deserves the world and i think she's incredible |
AlexKzillion
01.19.22 | I think Jamie ends up costing Britt her title somehow and the blood feud begins there. Seems like the story they're trying to tell at least. |
0GuyMan0
01.19.22 | Rosa is so obvious as a champ. Clearly the best they have, and only Deeb is honestly on her level as a performer. |
Divaman
01.19.22 | Rosa would be a great champ. Not quite ready to lose Britt, though. |
rufinthefury
01.20.22 | CODY IS CUTTING THE GREATEST PROMO OF HIS LIFE YOOOO TURN ON TBS |
rufinthefury
01.20.22 | Jon Moxley looked amazing btw, the bloat is gone. Back to Lean Ambrose.
But god damn Cody just stole the show |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | I gotta see this Cody thing lololol |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | That promo was one third good, one third bad, and one third lost and babbling. Wasn’t expecting much despite ruf’s hype, glad I wasn’t disappointed, too bad I wasn’t surprised. If anything this does however make me think the brilliant things he’s done before were just accidents. |
AlexKzillion
01.20.22 | Mox looked about as healthy as I've ever seen him in AEW last night, good for him |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | Not sure if i watched a cut down segment but his demon promo was getting zero reaction and then he moved on and crowd was getting back into it. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | All in all for Dynamite, happy for Mox, Cody is just the worst at promos, Brody King looks like a jobber and seems to work like one too, Pac hopefully will win a feud with them if he's not joining. But really that Cody promo was fucking garbage. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | Not only was it garbage it was also featuring too much low hanging fruit. And the worst part was when he said someone told him to save this promo but blah blah blah. Fucking dweeb. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.20.22 | Sorry ruffin, but that is just ridiculous you'd put all caps, promo of life, and turn on tv hit all 3 hypes for...that.. lol |
0GuyMan0
01.20.22 | I think it was off to a good start, but as always it went on far too long and ended up leading to....a ladder match? He has to regain the belt he...has? The fucking interim thing is idiotic.
He looked like he was acknowledging that we'd all caught on, that he was always a heel...he was on fire at that moment. But then he keeps going and I have no idea what he's going on and on about like usual. BUT...I do think this was a step in the right direction. He could be the best heel in the business if he'd get out of his own way.
I'm undecided on Brodie King. I really, really wish Malakai would lay off the lights-out gimmick and just go back to being a visceral, psychological savage, but if he's gonna have a faction I'd prefer guys like Pac and Andrade be a part of it. Like...did they ever even acknowledge that FTR and Andrade were working with the demon-possessed Black? Dude is my favorite, but he's all over the place. Just wrestle, man. You're one of the best at it. |
AlexKzillion
01.21.22 | "Not sure if i watched a cut down segment but his demon promo was getting zero reaction and then he moved on and crowd was getting back into it."
Noticed that hard cut when I watched too. Apparently when he entered the ring someone in the crowd very audibly yelled "who let this piece of shit in the ring" and then Moxley called him a motherfucker and got him yanked out by security. |
bloc
01.21.22 | I saw it on noDQ, he said "go fuck yourself" lol, crowd popped big time |
0GuyMan0
01.21.22 | aew has the full clip on youtube but the fuck is bleeped.
"Hey go fuck yourself, get that piece of shit out of here." Like no hesitation, will probably end up in his pantheon of greatest moments lol. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.21.22 | @alex that was in the clip i saw as well |
rufinthefury
01.26.22 | @Storm I typed that shit before he was done okay lmfao. The ending where he finally got around to the ladder match didn't really connect, but god damn he was doing so fucking well. Turned the whole crowd noooo problem like a pro does.
But for real, that was Cody's best promo in a looooong time. Right next to his Undesirable to Undeniable promo. Neither being as good as his promo to Dustin ofc. |
rufinthefury
01.26.22 | I'm already tired of watching Adam Cole beat up OC and friends seemingly every week so I hope tomorrow it just ends finally. Probably wont though. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.26.22 | They had orange and Cole do an actual face off on a beach 😂😂😂 Cole looks like he hasn’t been to the gym in a month, Casssidy should win the lights out match. It’s the best way to push Kris Statlander too without having her necessarily take the title from Brit but she can thwart Brit in an extended fight during this lights out match. |
AlexKzillion
01.26.22 | Yeah I've definitely noticed Cole's complete lack of muscle definition as of late. Even for AEW's standards he looks pretty flabby. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.26.22 | The ending of Cody’s promo with the ladder was the only sensible part of the promo. Everything else was offensive trash. Literally vomiting out of his mouth for 5 minutes. Breaking kayfabe, going back to kayfabe, breaking kayfabe again. I’d like to think Dusty would throw hands on his son if he was alive today and say what the fuck was that? Cody is pathetic. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.26.22 | The fact that the crowd went from booing to cheering Cody for THAT promo shows how many wrestling fans are %*#* %*#)$ |
Storm In A Teacup
01.27.22 | Johnny Gargano is rumored to debut tonight and challenge Cody or Sammy |
rufinthefury
01.27.22 | Storm is storming mad lol |
rufinthefury
01.27.22 | Sammy bumped like a mf'er for that match so Im ok with him winning but man Cody winning would have been the best.
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Storm In A Teacup
01.27.22 | I’m always! That’s why I’m Storm! 🤬 lol |
Storm In A Teacup
01.27.22 | Fantastic showhausen. |
rufinthefury
01.27.22 | The surprisehausen of the night for sure |
Storm In A Teacup
01.27.22 | Finally the ass boys can be elevated to Rampage and feudhausen for extra monies |
AlexKzillion
01.28.22 | Anyone else totally expecting Rosa to interrupt Britt on the anniversary of their lights out match only to...... not do it? Weird segment lol |
AlexKzillion
01.28.22 | Also yet another week goes by where Hangman is barely even on the show... like is he injured or something? I don't get it.
I don't care how bloated the roster is... the world champion needs to have a segment to himself every week. None of this video package shit. "A texas deathmatch 😮"... dude feels completely irrelevant. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.28.22 | He’s not super interesting as a character. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.28.22 | I watched that youtubers video documentary of his career so far and the focus on his pathetic character makes me feel like he is going to be remembered for the wrong reasons. |
ExhaleTheLight
01.29.22 | Unfortunately i cannot wait until some of these contracts expire. AEW's roster is so stacked there is no time for anyone anymore.
Also pegging back to last week, Cody is lukewarm at best with his promo game. They all really come across the same, a John Cena lite type of promo.
I also cannot wait for Mox vs Danielson. |
AlexKzillion
01.29.22 | yepp lio rush gone brian cage gone aint gonna miss either of them |
Storm In A Teacup
01.29.22 | Peter Avalon gone Joey Janela gone |
AlexKzillion
01.29.22 | Okay I liked pretty peter and the wingmen ☹️
Also marq quen really just did a fucking shooting star press to break up a submission hold. Laughed so fucking hard at that |
Divaman
01.29.22 | Lio Rush is gone already? Didn't he just get here like 10 minutes ago?
I'm one of the seemingly few who liked Janela. |
AlexKzillion
01.29.22 | I'm interested to see what happens to dark/elevation once all these contracts start expiring. I know a lot of wrestlers on there don't really have contracts anyways but it seems like a lot of the "main" ones did. Hope it doesn't turn into purely midcard and up squashing jobbers |
Storm In A Teacup
01.29.22 | They have like over 100 wrestlers I’m sure it will work out |
Storm In A Teacup
01.29.22 | Apparently Lio Rush extended his match at GCW by over double the time and that’s why the main event was 5 minutes. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.29.22 | That makes sense too because of card placement, Lio Rush as a fill in losing to the #1 contender because the champion couldn’t wrestle, if the match went 5 or 6 minutes and the main event being able to go 12 minutes instead of 5 minutes 30 seconds makes more sense. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.29.22 | Ramble ramble ramble rousy sucks ramble ramble…rumble?
Who is ready for tonight’s Premium Live Event? 🧐🙂 |
AlexKzillion
01.30.22 | I wanted to watch but ended up passing. Looks like I didn't miss much besides Roman/Seth |
Storm In A Teacup
01.30.22 | Tons of good stuff on the rumble. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.02.22 | Welp. Iron Sheik and Plain White T’s were angrily singing/tweeting each other the lyrics to Delilah. I’m not sure what is happening but I like it! |
AlexKzillion
02.02.22 | Lmao are yall following this Shane McMahon drama?????? this shit is hilarious |
LunaticSoul
02.02.22 | seriously, wwe shit talk is better than watching any wwe lol |
bloc
02.02.22 | Accurate af
I check nodq.com nightly before bed to catch up with drama in wrestling land |
Storm In A Teacup
02.02.22 | This is fucking nuts. I love it. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | And Brian Kendrick got fired by AEW before his match tonight. 😂😂😂 |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | What a baby |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | Take responsibility for your actions and live with it. Also I hate the AEW announce team. Said it before but I'll say it again. Schiavone is nonexistant, Excalibur is the worst announcer I've ever heard besides maybe Matt Striker. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | I inch closer to an aneurysm everytime someone makes their debut and Excalibur tells us how he wrestled them 20 years ago in front of 10 people in the promotion he founded. Please stop. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | Idc i won't remember you 2 minutes after anytime i read your post. |
Divaman
02.03.22 | How many comments do you have? There's no way to do it automatically. Do you when your first comment was? |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | Oh no now it looks like I’m crazy more than ever. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.03.22 | Idk why people say what they say about you diva, you are such a nice guy. |
Divaman
02.03.22 | Thanks. (Pause.) Wait, what? |
AlexKzillion
02.03.22 | pretty great episode of dynamite last night |
LunaticSoul
02.04.22 | yeah agree, oddly enough, also lowest number in a bit. I think last two dynamites were very "eh" and pointing to this one specifically for some resolution
also Brandi Rhodes is an absolute on-screen disaster. she is so unlikeable |
AlexKzillion
02.04.22 | Idk man... out of all the possible women's division storylines, Paige Van Zant vs. Brandi is EASILY the one I want to see most
I feel bad for Ethan Page and Scorpio Sky though like jfc they were completely fine without Dan Lambert and now they're his lackies |
Storm In A Teacup
02.04.22 | Tbh id rather see Brandi than Leyla Hirsch. |
rufinthefury
02.04.22 | I thought this week's Dynamite was really weird and a mixed bag. Some really really amazing stuff like Jon x Bryan and Punk vs MJF, and some not so good shit like Dan Lambert and Brandi and the House of Black match. |
AlexKzillion
02.04.22 | Yeah can't say I'm a fan of Brodie King. Dude's huge yeah but he just looks awful in those trunks... like a big man baby with tattoos or something idk how to describe it. Dude needs a new ring attire bad shit looks like a diaper on him. |
rufinthefury
02.04.22 | I was more annoyed at Pac coming back from the mist, doing the fake blind thing just to pull off the bandage for no reason to no pop, and then they lose anyways with Penta getting misted.
Like I get it, Fenix is gone so get Penta out at the same time, but no. That was silly. |
AlexKzillion
02.04.22 | I was really hoping the bandage would be something he'd permanently wear going forward. He looks so badass like that and then even went in the ring with it for a little while. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.04.22 | What happened to Malaki Black saying he had all these ideas and stories that WWE didn’t let him use? Is he ever going to tell a story? He is a waste of time at this point. Could be developing younger talent in place of his matches and segments. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.04.22 | Brodie King is a joke to me. |
rufinthefury
02.04.22 | I like Brodie King personally but he is just another body basically. No real character yet other than menacing big dude. |
AlexKzillion
02.05.22 | Team taz is one of the best things AEW has going right now and it's insane to me how little they are used |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | Erik Rowan is more menacing than Brodie King tho, he kind of stares around in a way that reminds me of Erik with a sheep mask on but Brodie looks more lost than a sheep mask. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | Agreed Alex. Team Taz is so underutilized I was shocked Jay Lethal didn’t win the FTW title |
AlexKzillion
02.05.22 | Yeah they badly need a program against some legit opposition and need to go over. They (especially Hobbs like wtf) lose way too often. I dig what they're doing with Hook so far but Hobbs and Starks should be getting pushed to the moon right now but instead are stuck doing commentary (which is great btw) and get like 15 seconds of screen time a week.
Like literally just swap them with the black throne... those spooky vignettes are the best thing about them anyways |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | Watched a Ricky Starks interview and he has been cleared for over half a year and he doesn’t know why he doesn’t wrestle more, said he wished he did have an answer. Most underutilized wrestler in the company. Then literally Hobbs is second most underutilized. |
AlexKzillion
02.05.22 | Also speaking of Jay Lethal they need to get him some wins against legit opponents too... has this man even won a TV match yet?!? Dude would be a way better filler challenger for Hangman's title than Archer at the very least if they're just gonna job him out on TV once a month |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | He’s lost every match right? 🤣🤣🤣 |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | Jay Lethal In ROH, Jay the Jobber in AEW |
AlexKzillion
02.05.22 | Daniel Garcia has pinned both Eddie Kingston and Santana in the past month tho |
Storm In A Teacup
02.05.22 | Daniel Garcia has an AJ Styles ceiling tho...amirite? |
LunaticSoul
02.06.22 | Jay Lethal has a ceiling folks, his character work is non-existent, and his promos are average af.
Just give us Malakai/PAC on PPV, is that that hard to ask? as if they needed a 5 month storyline to pull a sleeper banger lol |
rufinthefury
02.10.22 | YOOOOOO SPEAKING OF JAY |
rufinthefury
02.10.22 | OH MY GOD IT GOT BETTER |
AlexKzillion
02.10.22 | Haven't seen tonight episode but saw the debuts on twitter... bruh how are they gonna book all these guys this is fucking insane |
rufinthefury
02.10.22 | Bro that was a fantastic episode you missed im sorry. Literally PPV quality pretty much throughout. That was one of the best Dynamites in a long time outta nowhere |
Storm In A Teacup
02.10.22 | I’m confused about how we are supposed to take Adam Cole seriously after the last two months. I don’t think I ever can take him seriously again. And then you have him with the Bucks which makes things worse lol |
Storm In A Teacup
02.10.22 | “Jay Lethal has a ceiling folks, his character work is non-existent, and his promos are average af.“
Wasn’t he ROH champ and their top guy for the last 5 years? Seems like a big cliff to drop off of. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.10.22 | Seeing Cole step up to Page seemed like a comedy only. |
AlexKzillion
02.10.22 | Ooo I will still def watch at some point no worries... Wednesday nights are typically not good for me |
LunaticSoul
02.10.22 | RoH is a dead fed. . . that tells you something
Keith Lee tho. . . just needs to get the rust off lol
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rufinthefury
02.11.22 | KL's debut was one of the best AEW has had so far. Comes out and looks godly immediately ragdolling Private Party everywhere. I'm sure he's def got some rust but I didn't watch him in WWE nor NXT much at all so to me he looked better than fine. got a bit of a tummy but doesnt seem to slow him that much |
AlexKzillion
02.11.22 | Keith Lee is one of the very few things AEW doesn't have... a true and serious big man.
I'm interested to see how they end up booking him. Dude should be at the top of the card and should be squashing nearly everyone in his path. He's like 2-3x the size of like 95% of the roster, nobody should stand a chance except the Miros and Danielsons of the roster.
Based on how TK books his big men though, he'll probably go 15 minutes with Dante Martin next week |
rufinthefury
02.15.22 | Cody and Brandi gone from AEW???? |
AlexKzillion
02.15.22 | There's been rumors for a while now that Cody and the rest of the elite aren't on speaking terms anymore. Couple that with the terrible crowd response they both get and I'm kinda not surprised. They're both completely delusional and believe they are way bigger stars than they are, even if Cody is rather talented. |
rufinthefury
02.15.22 | Pain. I feel pain. Am I being worked into a shoot, I dont know, but PAIN.
No more Cody entrance. No more Codyverse. No more ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL |
AlexKzillion
02.15.22 | I guess Paige Van Zant is gonna wrestle Red Velvet instead now... |
Divaman
02.15.22 | Glad to lose Brandi. Not glad to lose Cody. |
AlexKzillion
02.15.22 | Tbh WWE is a way better fit for what he wants to be and do anyways. I'd be really interested to see how they present him though... can easily see Vince and co. giving him the DDP treatment |
0GuyMan0
02.15.22 | This is honestly mindblowing. And just when Cody was getting interesting.
I can't be bothered about Brandy, I don't know what the fuck she was trying to do, but I literally can't imagine a more attractive person that I've ever wanted to see less.
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JeetJeet
02.16.22 | I do not give a shit about Cody leaving. There's so many better wrestlers in AEW so if he wants to dip cool. Didnt see it coming tho thats for sure. |
rufinthefury
02.16.22 | Cody and Brandy vs Miz and Maryse at Mania yayyyy...... |
Divaman
02.16.22 | Brandi = Yoko Ono. |
AlexKzillion
02.16.22 | @jeet yeah pretty much same except I think he was definitely one of the better in-ring performers whenever he actually wrestled, though at this point aew is not lacking in that department anymore |
Storm In A Teacup
02.17.22 | Can’t wait for 12 to 20 minutes of Corny laughing at what Cody is doing. |
rufinthefury
02.17.22 | I've never felt so fucking baffled by something before. Like, yeah Cody's stock is at its highest and he's not gonna get the same money someone like CM Punk gets but he might get it in WWE, sure.
But bro has to know theyre not gonna give him a good run, and even if they do it wont be sustained. I 100% can see him going to WWE, I just dont see it going well. Like what, he's gonna dethrone Roman? Get real. |
rufinthefury
02.17.22 | I really thought his meta-heel run in AEW was developing into something great, and thats just gone now. Shame that. Guess he really was just awful at being face? |
AlexKzillion
02.17.22 | I am extremely interested to see how WWE utilizes him. Like good or bad im heavily invested lmao.
Will vince give him a giant push akin to when Jericho jumped from WCW to show AEW doesn't know what its doing? Will he be constantly jobbed out to Roman, Brock, and even lesser guys to show the top guys in AEW can't hang in WWE? Will he be eating Bad Bunny destoyers at wrestlemania??? So many possibilities |
LunaticSoul
02.17.22 | Guys I can´t fucking believe the "meta" run of Cody was not actually a meta run and it was just him stubbornly wanting to be liked by the crowd lol and not achieving it. I can´t take the thought off my mind that he was not only self-aware, but also self-stuck in his ass lol
I can´t think for the life of me one moment I had Brandi on my tv and was happy about it lol |
rufinthefury
02.17.22 | I really thought Cody was playing an oblivious heel but I guess he's just that stupid. |
0GuyMan0
02.17.22 | Yeah it's honestly something we might need to take as a lesson, as "smart" fans. It's very easy to convince ourselves of something when we're constantly looking for signs. Everyone who said he was big braining us all worked themselves. Dude is just that delusional. |
bloc
02.18.22 | Watch him sign to WWE, get used for a few months, and then get cut as a big F-U to AEW with Cody being the casualty. |
0GuyMan0
02.18.22 | I don't think that would be an F-U to AEW at all though. That would literally be affirmation of every motivation for creating an alternative in the first place. Just a lot more poetic because the guy let himself get shit on by the same company again. |
Divaman
02.18.22 | I might be guilty of seeing what I expect to see, but I have a feeling this is about Brandi. I feel like Cody and TK could have agreed on a new contract for Cody, but I have a feeling they were insisting on way more than Brandi was worth, and TK wasn't going for it. |
rufinthefury
02.18.22 | Lol like how on their reality show every episode was Brandi saying "Hey yall im ready to be a wrestler again post-baby" and everyone would go "You were a wrestler?" |
0GuyMan0
02.18.22 | There could be something to that. It's not easy to tell your wife she sucks. And that nobody cares that she's black and you're the whitest fuck from the whitest family in wrestling. And that nobody cares about your kid. And that nobody wants to hear you speak or see you wrestle or thinks you deserve your position beyond ring announcing for a while. |
AlexKzillion
02.19.22 | The funniest part of the past couple days was the reports that nobody liked Brandi backstage, followed by Nyla Aubrey and a few others coming to Brandi's defense, followed by more reports saying "yeah nah they're full of shit nobody liked her" |
Storm In A Teacup
02.19.22 | Wow those last 4 comments put together sure are something. From 4 users too. Nice work fellas. |
rufinthefury
02.19.22 | the Sonic Ring Ladder Match is stacked already and we only have 3 members in it |
Storm In A Teacup
02.19.22 | I feel like if Cody and Brandi read those 4 comments together there would be a flash of .exe in both their eyes then they both would pretend it didn’t happen and don’t even acknowledge it to each other then it would go back to workshopping promos and drunk homemade kitchen videos. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.19.22 | And the winner of Sonic Ring is Scorpio Sky! Lmao |
AlexKzillion
02.19.22 | Yeah idk they may as well add Sammy and make that match FOR the TNT title cause like wtf guys be coming in off the street getting a shot at the TNT title why should you have to win a 6 man ladder match to get a shot when you can just challenge Sammy on twitter and get a match? |
AlexKzillion
02.20.22 | The Miz teased calling an "international star" to tag with in a promo at the pReMiUm lIvE eVeNt today.
Could you imagine Cody leaving AEW to tag with the Miz? |
Divaman
02.20.22 | Apparently the WWE is interested in Cody, but not in Brandi. Heh. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.20.22 | Impact Wrestling or Sci Fi channel about to secure their first cooking show. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.20.22 | Mix about to secure his next tag team partner too 🤣🤣🤣 |
Divaman
02.20.22 | Sad. How fall the mighty. |
AlexKzillion
02.21.22 | One will turn on the other and the blow off to their feud will be a Miz/Maryse vs. Cody/Brandi mixed tag match to open Q2 of a mid-June smackdown pre-tape |
Divaman
02.21.22 | Please kill me. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.24.22 | What in the Isiah Swerve Scott did I just see? MJF turn face? Lmao 🤣 |
rufinthefury
02.24.22 | MJF's promo was amazing but where tf is it going because it's not as if you can double turn Punk and MJF when Wardlow is still waiting to turn on MJF himself.
Buddy Matthews is a great new addition - is what I would have said about 6 months ago, but as is welcome to AEW midcard. Love Buddy though so hopefully he shines bright |
Divaman
02.24.22 | I live on Long Island, where, according to TK's (somewhat facetious) promo of a few months ago, MJF IS a babyface. |
AlexKzillion
02.24.22 | thought that was a brilliant episode of dynamite tbh
battle royale was fun tho think its kinda funny they're doing another next week lmao. right team won. But where has THIS hangman page been during this title reign??? This is like the first time in his entire reign he's felt like THE champion in a non-match setting
mjf promo was masterful, thinking he's luring punk in for a tremendous beatdown next week
dark penta entrance was awesome, never seen buddy matthews wrestle but he looks legit.
jericho/kingston promo was actually pretty great with kingston clearly getting the best of jericho. looking like kingston will be going over for sure
RICKY STARKS BEAT SOMEONE ON TV. AND CLEAN
also hyped for Mox/Bryan |
AlexKzillion
02.24.22 | thought that was a clunky set up for the AHFO vs Darby/Sting/Sammy match though lmao... looking like Matt is gonna get kicked and start tagging with his brother again real soon |
rufinthefury
02.24.22 | I enjoyed the episode as a whole but I really disliked Jericho v Kingston promo. They did it backwards, they started with a bunch of insider shit which should already be kept to a minimum and eventually transitioned into Jericho going "You can't win the big one! Beat me, and I'll respect you." NO. NO. DO IT AGAIN, PUT IT IN REVERSE |
AlexKzillion
02.24.22 | yeah i agree with that. really do not like when they use the terms babyface and heel especially. also triple h's shoot name has been used quite a few times now and should prob only be reserved for punk feuds. i dont believe for a second jericho and trips have irl heat |
LunaticSoul
02.24.22 | every Matt Hardy storyline sucked, so I am not surprised
Also every Malakai storyline so far has been uninteresting and/or going nowhere. Buddy looks the part lol. He is a great wrestler, but how many great wrestlers has this company right now lol.
Card of ppv looks like a banger though, not gonna lie. |
LunaticSoul
02.24.22 | MJF pulled the final gaslighter card in which he makes himself sound like the nice guy and forget he has been a PoS for years now |
Minushuman24
02.24.22 | For somereason i added myself to r/scjerk and holy hell it is a trash fire of a subreddit, but once in a while they're pretty funny |
Storm In A Teacup
02.24.22 | i'm assuming sc stands for squared circle... |
Minushuman24
02.24.22 | yes lol |
Storm In A Teacup
02.25.22 | now that Cesaro has walked away from WWE today with a zero day non compete clause I'm really hopeful he debuts in AEW asap and is pushed to the very top of the main title picture. Cesaro is amazing. Much better than Flabam Cole or Clothesline Hanger. |
Storm In A Teacup
02.25.22 | I really need a 3 month storyline feud between Cesaro and Keith Lee over the AEW World Title. Like right now. |
AlexKzillion
02.26.22 | rampage was pretty not good this week besides sammy/andrade
felt like I was watching an episode of smackdown with all the non-entrances and random ass segments throughout
And they've done an absolutely terrible job at building up Britt/Rosa... like this is the longest running blood feud in AEW yet its treated like the 7th most important thing going on right now. Rosa beat Britt in the lights out match yet is hardly presented as a threat as Britt just dunks on her with no rebuttal.
Britt's reign besides the Ruby Soho feud has been kinda weak all things considered... kinda glad its coming to an end soon. |
AlexKzillion
02.27.22 | saw a theory that sammy is wearing both tnt belts still because when wardlow wins the ladder match and then defeats sammy he has to give the belt to mjf but because there are two belts they can both wear one and tbh that'd be pretty brilliant |
Storm In A Teacup
02.27.22 | I don’t understand your two belts idea completely but it sounds neat. |
rufinthefury
03.03.22 | TONY OWNS ROH |
Storm In A Teacup
03.03.22 | Huge. My main things is trios title in aew. Please |
AlexKzillion
03.03.22 | there's def about to be hella ROH footage in all the video packages now |
Storm In A Teacup
03.03.22 | RIP WWE fans in Russia. Wwe cut all business ties with no way for anyone in country to watch live shows, ppv, or network. |
AlexKzillion
03.03.22 | finished last night's episode..... i love britt as much as anyone but my god if she retains sunday she's gonna have go home heat. TK is playing a dangerous game here
also really hoping redragon takes the belts. jurassic express sucks tbh |
Storm In A Teacup
03.04.22 | Jurassic Express does suck yeah, hopefully Christian turns on them and a jungle boy Christian feud happens and luchasaurus turns on jungle boy. |
AlexKzillion
03.04.22 | I think it's cool that Christian is managing a younger tag team but yeah it's kind of a weird fit... like jurassic express is a team Christian and Edge would've straight up buried back in the day.
now i don't think christian should be world champion or anything but there is def better things they could be doing with him. would love to see him turn on JE, and i think that's prob always been the plan here but im starting to come to the conclusion that TK waits just a little too long to pull the trigger on certain stories |
AlexKzillion
03.04.22 | ALSO... im so fucking confused with this whole darby/sammy/andrade/tnt title angle... like okay darby/sammy/andrade triple threat for the title that's awesome but how are darby and sammy gonna then team up two days later at the ppv??? why do darby and andrade both get another shot at the title after sammy just beat both of them?? why are they doing a triple threat for the title on rampage while doing the tornado tag with no stakes at the ppv and not the other way around?? and lastly.... what is the fucking point of this 7 man ladder match when all you have to do to get a tnt title match is call out the champion on twitter, and even when you lose you'll get another shot at it if you stay in his vicinity long enough??? |
Storm In A Teacup
03.04.22 | It’s because Tony Khan is taking a lot of adderall lol |
rufinthefury
03.04.22 | Rosa def needs to beat Britt.
My call for the tag belts is JE retains after RED and YB fuck with each other.
As far as JE goes, long run Christian definitely "goes too far" for JB and Dinoman and goes heel. Alternatively, JB could leave Dinoman and join with Christian to try out some heel edge, but I doubt it considering just how over JB is as a babyface.
The TNT Title scene is strange. It's pretty much the "fuck it" belt.
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LunaticSoul
03.05.22 | Triple threat was a banger tho lol |
AlexKzillion
03.05.22 | yepp triple threat ruled hard. andrade is so fucking good.
and now it seems that... scorpio sky???... is gonna get a title shot next dynamite?? like before the ladder match winner even does?? just because?? |
rufinthefury
03.06.22 | TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT, BRIGHT LIGHTS HOT CROWD EVERYBODY GET LOUD - wait wrong show
anyways, Revolution is tonight! Predictions everyone:
AEW World Championship match: “Hangman” Adam Page (c) vs. Adam Cole
AEW Women’s Championship match: Britt Baker (c) vs. Thunder Rosa
AEW Tag Team Championship match: Jurassic Express (c) vs. REDragon vs. Young Bucks
TBS Championship match: Jade Cargill (c) vs. Tay Conti
Tornado tag match: Sting, Darby Allin and Sammy Guevara vs. Matt Hardy, Andrade El Idolo and Isiah Kassidy
Face of the Revolution Ladder Match: Keith Lee vs. Wardlow vs. Will Hobbs vs. Ricky Starks vs. Orange Cassidy vs. Christian Cage
Dog Collar Match: CM Punk vs MJF
Bryan Danielson vs Jon Moxley
Chris Jericho vs Eddie Kingston
Hook vs QT Marshall
Kris Statlander vs Leyla Hirsch |
rufinthefury
03.06.22 | My list of winners are:
“Hangman” Adam Page (retain)
Thunder Rosa (new champ)
Jurassic Express (retain)
Jade Cargill (retain)
Sting, Darby Allin and Sammy Guevara
Keith Lee
CM Punk
Bryan Danielson
Eddie Kingston
Hook
Kris Statlander |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | I'm really excited for Bryan/Mox, Punk/MJF, and Jericho/Kingston cause I have no idea who will win any of those matches.
As for the ladder match I think Wardlow will win. And I think he's gonna ragdoll Sammy when they face each other.
Pretty much agree with the rest of your predictions... though i really do have a bad feeling Britt may retain. There's rumors rosa is injured, she works to many dates outside AEW etc. + with how sloppy that tag match was wednesday there could maybe be some truth to it. Excited to see what happens. |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | I REALLY want Kingston to beat Jericho... also hoping redragon wins the tag belts cause JE's reign has been boring af |
Storm In A Teacup
03.06.22 | I agree with rufin except red win and Mox wins |
Storm In A Teacup
03.06.22 | Also not sure sting darby sammy win. Gonna say they also lose |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | lowkey slightly annoyed that this card doesn't really have a "break match" like the last three ppvs (Cody/Ogogo, Paul Wight/QT, Inner Circle/ATT)... more or less invested in everything on this card tbh even the Jade match.
Inconsistent matches aside I think Jade has been a really good champ so far. Her character has come full circle since winning the belt i feel |
rufinthefury
03.06.22 | Mox/Danielson was my hardest pick, but I think Bryan winning can further their really interesting story more whereas Mox winning might just have it end. But maybe not, idk.
I have JE retaining because I think RED and YB will be stabbing each other in the back too much for either team to win, but I wouldnt be surprised if RED won anyway.
Don't see Team Heel beating Team Face, it's three big babyface names vs three not very notable heels. |
rufinthefury
03.06.22 | @Alex Hook vs QT and Leyla vs Kris are def your break matches lol |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | oh yeah they'd be mine too for sure but those are all on the pre-show |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | and yeah I think one of sting/darby/sammy pin hardy and it results in hardy getting kicked out of the HFO on dynamite so he can reunite with his brother... think that's def the easiest match to predict the result of this time around |
Storm In A Teacup
03.06.22 | Jeff has been wearing his corporate heel suit in promo videos so im thinking hfo wins because heel jeff helps. I like the idea of Bryan winning and the story continuing from a singles feud perspective. Maybe Mox can't handle never beatong Bryan? |
AlexKzillion
03.06.22 | A Jeff/Darby singles match is literally mandatory so whatever needs to be done to make that match happen i am for it
a torch passing from one crazy facepainted pretty boy weirdo to another |
AlexKzillion
03.07.22 | HAHAHAHAHA alright were all already 0-1 for predictions |
rufinthefury
03.07.22 | YUP LOL |
rufinthefury
03.07.22 | I fucking popped so hard when I saw SPOILERS. Holy shit. Oh my god. And the show isn't even over |
AlexKzillion
03.07.22 | Entire card was banger after banger
Punk/MJF was match of the night for me |
Tw1ster
03.07.22 | Great show but definitely feel the fatigue by the main event. Always a good show but sometimes they are a tad long |
rufinthefury
03.07.22 | BD vs Mox was my MOTN but everything was glorious |
AlexKzillion
03.07.22 | "Great show but definitely feel the fatigue by the main event. Always a good show but sometimes they are a tad long"
yeah this is the one thing they haven't entirely nailed down just yet. felt the same way about Kenny/Christian and Kenny/Hangman as well. slightly difficult to have cage matches, dog collar matches, ladder matches, crazy multi man tags, and then have the world title match be a standard singles match. think it also doesn't help that we pretty much KNOW who is winning more often than not... the one drawback of logical booking i guess |
AlexKzillion
03.07.22 | also really hoping ricky starks is okay... dudes neck landed right on the ladder step on that suplex and was basically immobile after that |
AlexKzillion
03.07.22 | ALSO im happy wardlow won but pissssed i was right about britt retaining... like her reign is legit becoming unbearable |
LunaticSoul
03.08.22 | Yeah fuck Britt, swerve of the night for sure
OC, Starks, Isaiah, Sammy - all had like very scary spots lol. Isaiah seems fine, I think Starks is just very good at selling but holy jeez that was scary for a dude that broke his neck recently. . .
OC was legit injured, that fall looked horrible. He never showed up in the match and the Danhausen entry was 100% meant to be on a OC help spot.
All in all PPV was a banger, but I had to split it up - watched 2 hrs and then later in the night 2 other hours. 4 is a loooong time. . . but crowd was hot for the main event too, but yeah. I think I am fine with having a more tired ME on PPVs considering how crazy good the card is |
Storm In A Teacup
03.09.22 | Great main event on NXT tonight. My first NXT show since Gargano goodbye promo. Two hilarious stereotypical Steiner moments to go with a shocking ending to the triple threat title match between Bron Breaker, Tomassa Ciampa, and Dolph Ziggler. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.09.22 | Bron attacked himself and then we saw his ass a few minutes later. The first thing was hilarious. The secone thing was kind of like a bonus on top of the first thing. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | Looks like we have a new wrestling company. Too bad it’s gonna be absolutely trash lol. Braun Strowman and EC3 have started a wrestling company called CYN that will be on a cable network called ProwrestlingTV that doesn’t itself exist yet. Their first signing was Austin Aries. Rumored that CYN is interested in signing Drake Wurst/Younger, Nia Jax, Joey Ryan, Ryback, Alberto Del Rio, Lars Sullivan, and Brian Kendrick. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | I can’t believe we actually have a Q’ANON wrestling company now |
rufinthefury
03.11.22 | dawg I went camping yesterday and now I missed like a million things from Dynamite lmfao |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | Yeah a ton happened. New stables, new wrestlers, new stories. 😃 also unfortunately Adam Cole and Hangman story continuing 🥱🥱🥱 |
rufinthefury
03.11.22 | FUCK. I HATE ADAM COLE |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | 🤣 |
rufinthefury
03.11.22 | His Halo outfit was fucking garbage i wanna put that out there if i didnt already |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | All I know is the longer we go without the FTR Young Bucks feud the less and less it is possible for me to respect Nick and Matt Jackson for real life avoiding FTR and using them to get themselves over initially then nothing. |
rufinthefury
03.11.22 | speaking of tag brothers, I just realized that 2.0 is made up of Matt and Jeff and that's why they're called 2.0. Same names as the Hardyz. Weird. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22 | Wow, this whole time I thought they were making fun of NXT. |
AlexKzillion
03.11.22 | tbh that was kind of an awful episode of dynamite. they're trying to fit in waaaaay too much stuff into one episode now and its just kinda hard to keep up with
this kingston feud has made me as interested as ever in jericho in aew
why is dante martin getting a title shot? why does hangman have to defend his title again like three days after the ppv? why does adam cole, whose lost every single feud he's been in since joining aew, about to get ANOTHER world title shot? and why is the world heavyweight championship match happening like 20 minutes into the show and not the main event????
i don't understand why they did not one but TWO battle royals to determine who would get a shot at JE's titles at the ppv... only for the acclaimed to just randomly get a title shot for no reason three days after the ppv???
mox/bryan tag team seems OP as fuck and im here for it
wardlow is not a natural on the mic... though kind of a tough position to put him in after almost never hearing him talk ever beforehand
JEFF HARDY IS HERE and does his dance down the ramp as matt gets the shit kicked out of him lol
scorpio sky title match was also random af and im shocked he won lol... good match tho and im always happy to see sky and page do cool shit in the breadcrums of time they're given |
Prancer
03.11.22 | I thought wardlow was great on the mic, esp. for his first in ring promo. really love how they've been building him up over time. everything from his facial expressions and body language in the background of MJF to his in ring presence. dude's gonna be a big star. |
rufinthefury
03.12.22 | Holy fucking shit prayers up for Big E yall my guy broke his neck on a horrible suplex. He's responsive but shiiiiiit man fucking broke his god damn neck |
Storm In A Teacup
03.12.22 | This is heartbreaking. Ive been looking at thjs for last ten minutes. Ridge Holland must be fired |
rufinthefury
03.12.22 | Thank God Big E is moving his arms and other extremities, seems like he's in good spirits and should be alright long-run. Now, will he wrestle again? Who knows, but man Big E lives and wont be paralyzed and thats all we can ask for. |
AlexKzillion
03.12.22 | yeah that was awful... hoping for a full recovery. always thought he was cool despite never really seeing him wrestle |
rufinthefury
03.14.22 | Scott Hall :( |
AlexKzillion
03.14.22 | hard RIP |
rufinthefury
03.14.22 | we really live in a world where Scott Hall is about to die from a bad fall after completely changing his life, but Hulk god damn Hogan still breathes. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.14.22 | Un addition to that, Scott Hall only had those troubles from dealing with having killed a man in self defense. 😪 |
0GuyMan0
03.14.22 | The Bad Guy is throwing toothpicks in Death's face defiantly |
Storm In A Teacup
03.15.22 | RIP
Starting to think Cody is not gonna work out in WWE. |
JeetJeet
03.15.22 | RIP Scott Hall. One of the top 5 coolest wrestlers of all time right there. |
rufinthefury
03.15.22 | God damn RIP Scott Hall. |
AlexKzillion
03.15.22 | I was actually watching his mania 10 ladder match with HBK the other day, prob the best ladder match i've ever seen tbh |
AlexKzillion
03.17.22 | I'm all in on the jericho appreciation society this shit is actually brilliant |
0GuyMan0
03.17.22 | yeah I honestly don't hate it. I'm hoping 2.0 / whatever crazy shit they're called now get a push, because I can't get enough of those guys on the mic. |
ExhaleTheLight
03.20.22 | Cody signed with WWE it's been officially reported.... |
rufinthefury
03.21.22 | yeah yeah and he's fighting Seth Rollins at Mania. I'll believe it when it happens. Too many rumors at this point going around. It sounds like a good debut but as always, Plans Change ^tm |
Storm In A Teacup
03.21.22 | Maybe but he is definitely signed. |
AlexKzillion
03.21.22 | Cody/Rollins would be a banger and the only mania match I'd be interested in along with Edge/AJ. |
0GuyMan0
03.22.22 | I just want Bayley back. |
rufinthefury
03.23.22 | CM Punk vs Dax tonight. Interesting |
AlexKzillion
03.23.22 | Bret Hart is All Elite tweet incoming |
0GuyMan0
03.24.22 | don't tease me. |
rufinthefury
03.29.22 | he's gonna manage for FTR it is inevitable. |
AlexKzillion
03.31.22 | yesterday's dynamite was pretty solid. andrade finally got a big win, Bryan/Yuta was a banger, Mox/Lethal was a banger, jeff hardy absolutely murdering dudes with the swanton lmao
gotta say adam cole has go home heat with me at this point, and he's dragging redragon down with him. this whole "belt thief" thing was a complete fucking joke, 24/7 title type bullshit.
after this bullshit cole feud I think they need to put the belt on Punk ASAP. seems like that'll be hangman's next program and i cannot fathom him beating punk |
Storm In A Teacup
04.01.22 | I hate Adam Cole and the Young Bucks. I would get no pleasure from them putting anyone over. Just go away. Only thing i could like is FTR squashing the bucks clean in 5 minutes |
Storm In A Teacup
04.01.22 | I have skipped every redragon match. No interest there either. Kyle o reiley booking from cool kyle to this point is a joke. |
rufinthefury
04.01.22 | I'm basically 100% with you Alex on everything you said.
I didn't like AC when he came to NXT even tho I tried and I don't like him now. He's fucking boring. |
rufinthefury
04.03.22 | So far Mania isnt good |
rufinthefury
04.03.22 | ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL
CODY BACK IN VINCE'S HOME |
AlexKzillion
04.03.22 | Wasn't expecting much from Mania last night but............. it was actually a lot of fun?????
Becky/Bianca was awesome.
I died of laughter during Cody's entrance... dude had more pyro than everyone else on the card combined, his AEW music, THE CODYVATOR... it was literally AEW Cody through and through. And the match was as good as any of his AEW matches.
And obv KO/Austin was awesome. Austin took A LOT more bumps than I was expecting him to. |
Storm In A Teacup
04.03.22 | It was very revealing watching the build to mania this year and realizing that the legitimate criticism wwe used to receive has been overtaken by immaturity, ignorance, selfishness, stupidity instead of actually critiquing them. Media like wrestletalk for example being run by virgins who say they like wrestling but spend more time reporting and complaining about wrestling than watching for enjoyment. The number one criticism was how wwe didn’t build mania. That is the easiest thing to say and the laziest thing to say. Half of wrestlemania is over and people loved it. We saw the conclusion or continuation of multiple long storylines, some over a year old already, like Becky and Bianca was. |
rufinthefury
04.03.22 | Night 1 started bad and progressively got better and better. Cody v Seth was MOTN with Becky v Bianca right behind it and Stone Cold did SO MUCH MORE than anyone ever expected |
AlexKzillion
04.03.22 | "The number one criticism was how wwe didn’t build mania. That is the easiest thing to say and the laziest thing to say."
I mean yeah but it's absolutely true. Like Bianca/Becky and Brock/Roman were prob the only matches on either night that really got the story/build they deserved. Stone Cold coming back after two decades because KO made fun of Texas a little too much?? Edge's random heel turn?? Whatever the Charlotte/Ronda build was?? Not like those criticisms were unwarranted, even if they are prob better off under selling and over delivering than vice/versa. |
Storm In A Teacup
04.03.22 | Rhonda Rousey deserves zero build. Her behavior on Friday proved that. She needs to go away and it looks like she is. |
rufinthefury
04.03.22 | You're not really buying what Alvarez is saying are you? You're smarter than that Storm. |
rufinthefury
04.03.22 | And thats not even a defense of Ronda, I do not care about her, but I believe her stupid ass more than I believe Alvarez's lmfao |
Storm In A Teacup
04.03.22 | I haven't even seen her side of the story. I just pretend im a pro wrestling character on this thread and try to say fun, feud worthy things that we could argue about for years. |
Storm In A Teacup
04.03.22 | It is sad how many people hate Seth Rollins as aDC villain. I genuinely think he is better than any of the DC movies as a DC villain since Heath Ledger (tho i do like Bane and the original story of the trilogy having a final act) |
Storm In A Teacup
04.03.22 | Also suicide squad 1 would have been amazing if some kind of person i can only describe as kevin Dunn's son wasn't editing the movie. |
rufinthefury
04.04.22 | Young Bucks may actually be salty about Cody leaving and I think that's hilarious |
AlexKzillion
04.04.22 | that triple threat tag was a lot of fun tooo. never even seen a street profits or alpha academy match but its amazing the kinds of matches these guys can put on when given the time to do so every once in a blue moon |
rufinthefury
04.04.22 | yeah that Tag Match was fucking awesome. Omos's match was not |
AlexKzillion
04.04.22 | uhhh so Zayn/Knoxville and Theory/McAfee were actually great while Edge/AJ and Brock/Roman kinda sucked... who woulda thought lmao |
rufinthefury
04.04.22 | Yep. Except I didnt care for Zayn/Knox |
AlexKzillion
04.04.22 | gotta think either roman or brock got injured... aint no way that was the actual match/finish they planned for "the greatest match of all time" lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
04.04.22 | McAfee vs Theory was stupendous |
AlexKzillion
04.04.22 | i was thoroughly sports entertained this weekend.
but why they just be announcing gable stevenson is in the building like he's the president lmao, those parts were so awkward. been reading he's the wwe's new hope and idk if an alleged rapist with shitty tattoos and the charisma of a fire hydrant is gonna work out too well |
rufinthefury
04.07.22 | That was a restaurant quality Dynamite |
Storm In A Teacup
04.07.22 | I instantly pictured the dinner of Jericho w MJF and the Pinnacle dinner where the waiter almost got merc’d. |
AlexKzillion
04.08.22 | FTR
FTR
FTR |
rufinthefury
04.09.22 | Rampage tonight was fucking amazing. Best episode since the CM Punk debut, and I was at that one! Holy shit. Top to bottom excellent, and the Wheeler Yuta vs Jon Moxley match at the end is legitimately MOTY contender. I actually recorded that entire match and cut out the ads (zoomed in on the picture and picture and shit) if anyone missed it because you NEED to watch it, it's amazing. |
AlexKzillion
04.09.22 | Yeah seriously I may even prefer Yuta/Mox to FTR/Bucks this week. Far and away the best Moxley match I've ever seen. |
rufinthefury
04.09.22 | It's not a question for me, I DEFINITELY liked Yuta/Mox more than FTR/YB 2. I loved all the pure physical storytelling.
I'm way over the Young Bucks at this point. I fucking hate how their tag matches don't really involve tags, it's just 4 dudes in the ring doing mirror spots. |
rufinthefury
04.18.22 | https://i.imgur.com/vE5j1JM.png
AEW bingo card, enjoy.
NJPW Windy City Riot was fucking amazing btw. Mox vs Ospraey was looking to be an all-timer before the finish got fucked. |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | https://youtu.be/MgdKjw-V76g
Yall should watch my video and give me clicks pls it's good except I swear |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | Bruh holy shit def gonna watch that when I get the chance
Aside from a few great matches here and there I can't help but feel like AEW has cooled down a lot since Revolution. Don't really care all that much about anything going on right now besides the Wardlow/MJF stuff. Haven't even watched rampage the last few weeks. |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | As someone who knows next to nothing about NJPW, and only really knows ROH as the place that made Punk, Samoa Joe, Danielson etc... the AEW booking has done a terrible job making me care about any of these wrestlers/titles that they throw into seemingly every show now. |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | Yeah I unfortunately have to agree. AEW is in a really weird spot right now with one foot in the indies and the other trying to be WWE but better. The RoH acquisition fucked up a LOT of stuff imo, AEW was already getting bloated as is and then they just added in more belts and more wrestlers outta nowhere. TK needs to get RoH up and running as a separate show ASAP |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | Tony Khans booking decisions reminds me of Marc Cuban signing Chandler Parsons. |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | I don't know what that means but sure.
Also remember when Cody came up with Fuck The Revival back in the day? Does anyone remember The Revival ever responding at the time? |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | "Tony Khans booking decisions reminds me of Marc Cuban signing Chandler Parsons."
holy fuck lmaooooooo that like perfectly describes the jeff hardy signing so far |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | Hehe im so happy someone could appreciate that |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | and yeah i agree rufin like between the rate he keeps signing people (and like 95% male wrestlers), putting ROH wrestlers and titles on TV, NJPW wrestlers, shit last dynamite even had two Impact wrestlers wrestle... like it's just becoming wayyyy too many meaningless dream matches, title matches for titles barely anyone cares about with zero build, etc. |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | also feel like nearly all the AEW regulars are completely stuck in the mud. cm punk opens nearly every show with a 10-15 match against some random opponent and wins. JAS jumps Kingston/PnP and or cheats to win a match against them. Wardlow powerbombs some guys. Adam cole low blows someone. BCC squashes some random trio. Britt/Jamie and Toni/Ruby do the same baskstage promo every week. World Champion adam page might get few minutes on TV if were lucky. Sammy/Tay vs. MOTY segment. Some combination of The Hardys and Darby/Sting vs. Andrade and his goons. It's been like the same show each and every week for months now |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | I will say I have 100% come around on Jade tho. And everything involving Starks/Hobbs/Swerve/Keith Lee is gold.
That being said, as much as I want to see Hangman/Punk and Wardlow/MJF... I'm seriously contemplating not buying the next ppv. |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | I fucking hate Adam Cole man.
To add to the list of gripes, Jurassic Express won the belts and immediately vanished into the background, I often forget they even have the straps.
Women's division gets 0 fucking screentime and I've frankly kinda lost hope for the division. Thunder Rosa won the belt (a week late) and then missed a week of TV and then got one segment that was about 1.5 minutes long where Nyla gets caked as a build to her first title defense. Atrocious booking.
The only exceptions are Jade and Britt, those two and their friends will get screentime. None for anyone else |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | I fucking hate Adam Cole man. [2] like i'd say something like "can't wait for kenny to come back and kick his ass" but quite frankly i just don't want to see adam cole on my tv period lmao
"To add to the list of gripes, Jurassic Express won the belts and immediately vanished into the background, I often forget they even have the straps"
this is the biggest flaw of tony's booking as of late. dude has been absolutely horrific booking his champions since the Bucks/Kenny dropped their belts. like literally to the point where i don't want to see FTR or team taz or Punk or MJF or anyone I really like get the belts put on them cause im scared they're just gonna be vacant from TV.
and as far as i'm concerned... Jade is the REAL women's champion and honestly the TBS title feels like the most prestigious belt in the company period. They've done a great job with her. Meanwhile, hangman's reign has sucked since he beat Danielson despite some great matches, Lucha Bros have gotten far more tv time without the belts than with them both before and after their reign, JE is nowhere to be found, the women's title has been dead in the water since Britt beat Ruby in like August or something, and then ofcourse, the fucking tnt title has been a joke since miro dropped it. |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | Hangman is having a great reign, tons of awesome matches. Both BD matches and the Lance Archer match were fantastic in particular, and his character growth into finally being confident and braggadocios is great. What he really needs is to be at least cutting a promo once an episode though, it's wild how they just ignore him. |
AlexKzillion
05.08.22 | yeah like his week to week booking just feels like that of a midcarder to me with how inconsistently he's on TV. Dude should be the centerpiece of the show almost every week and he feels like an afterthought half the time. he does a great job when actually given the chance (minus the 2nd half of the cole feud which was awful) and his matches have been spectacular, just wish they booked him like their world champion more |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | btw watch my Wheeler Yuta vs Jon Moxley video it's actually good I swear |
rufinthefury
05.09.22 | tried to watch Backlash and couldn't get past the Cody match tbh. As much as there is to complain about AEW it sure as fuck aint as bad as WWE |
rufinthefury
05.10.22 | https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/umkd8r/kota_ibushi_tweets_about_njpw_megathread/
Somethings up and it sure doesn't seem like a work. |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | Excited for KOR/Darby, MJF/Wardlow, and Hangman/Punk tonight. Tag title match should slap too |
rufinthefury
05.30.22 | gotta say DON was kinda meh overall. Very whelming PPV. The home stretch was pretty great though.
Called the ending to basically all the matches wrong. Tony subverted my expectations left and right and I'm not thrilled but the matches were good |
Divaman
05.30.22 | Just read the results for tonight, as I haven't actually watched in a while now. I won't give spoilers, in case there are some who still plan to watch the replay, but suffice it to say that this won't pull me back in. |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | yeah last night was easily the worst ppv since the exploding ring. wasn't a huge fan of the card to begin with but i still bought it cause i felt the same about the past couple cards too and my expectations were greatly surpassed.
and yeah gotta say i was really disappointed with the results of a lot of the matches too
darby/kor was my match of the night despite just randomly being thrown on the card and only being 10 minutes |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | And ngl I've been in the same boat as divaman for a while now (and especially since revolution) though I continue to watch out of habit. Company has lost a ton of momentum. Think the inactivity of this thread the past few months backs that up too.
With MJF now seemingly on the outs they may really start losing me. Everything MJF has been apart of has been easily the best part of AEW since the Jericho feud ended. |
JeetJeet
05.30.22 | Please get the fucking tag titles off the Dinosaur and Jungle Boy and turn Punk heel already jesus fucking christ bruh |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | I've made some minor complaints about hangman's title reign already but I think the main problems are:
- Adam Cole continues to get pushed to the moon despite having go away heat.
- Britt Baker continues to get pushed to the moon despite having go away heat.
- The Hardys continue to get pushed to the moon despite barely being able to move anymore.
- Everything having to do with the TNT title since Miro dropped it has been awful
- Jurassic Express having a chokehold on the tag titles despite barely ever being on TV (and imo, there being at least half a dozen better tag teams)
- An overall over-reliance on all the new signings
- All the while people like FTR, Kris Statlander, Team Taz, Darby Allin, etc. are perpetually either have nothing relevant to do or booked to be "almost there but not quite good enough" despite being some of the most over people on the entire roster. |
Divaman
05.30.22 | I fucking hate CM Punk. |
JeetJeet
05.30.22 | They need to turn Punk heel ASAP
Also they need to stop putting them bum ass Revival niggas on my tv screen
And where tf did Miro go? |
Storm In A Teacup
05.30.22 | Yes we need to put Miro on a milk carton quite frankly. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.30.22 | Tony Khan right now is not in the lead for 2022 booker of the year. The Britt Baker over Ruby thing was apalling. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.30.22 | Ive seen one segment in the last two months and it was the Wardlow MJF contract signing. That was good though. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.30.22 | I also effing hate Adam Cole (3) |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | I actually like Fish and especially love KOR just can't fucking stand Cole. KOR had maybe my two favorite matches of the week between Joe on Dynamite and Darby at the ppv... dude makes it all look so real.
Gotta think a Punk heel turn has to be coming. Eddie/MJF/Hangman all made some sort of reference to punk being a snake / having to "defend AEW from him" in their feuds. Don't mind punk as a face as he's still one of the highlights of AEW but I'd love to see punk heel it up this summer. |
0GuyMan0
05.30.22 | Clearly the honeymoon is over for AEW, and just throwing shit out there with fresh faces isn't going to cut it anymore.
So many matches last night should have gone differently. Starks and Hobbs are READY. Why the fuck do we see so much of that sleazeball Sammy while Ricky is sitting in the back fucking off all the time. Why the fuck would you keep the belts on JB and Lucha when JB needs to go out on his own and there are at least five better teams?
Nobody in their right mind believes Cole should beat Joe, ever. I do like Cole, but he doesn't appear to be taking his physique seriously anymore. Similarly, that Britt / Ruby match was ripe for a double turn, and the crowd was behind Ruby. Britt has had her time and needs to fall back for a while.
Malakai Black should be a top guy. This constant lights out bullshit, convoluted storylines and fucking around with people FAR beneath him has sapped every bit of his intrigue, and he's been downhill since beating Cody the second time.
Jeff had some moments at the end of his WWE run where I believed they could actually push him for one more miracle run with the belt, but sticking him and his stiff brother in a match with the Bucks was just a moron decision. The Bucks' matches are GO GO GO and they just can't anymore. Nobody wanted this dream match but the Bucks.
The stadium fight or w/e was an absolute dumpster fire. Unless the shot was on Danielson, for whom this is far, FAR beneath, it was botches left and right. You have the best wrestler on planet earth, one of the GOATs. And he's fucking around with this idiot Moxley who is so concerned with people thinking he's a badass that he now regularly ingests the blood of his opponents. The only moment of intrigue came when Danielson and Kingston collided in the end, and who eats the pin in this pile of garbage? Daniel Garcia? 2.0 guys? Ortiz? No. Danielson. Of course.
I don't know about all this MJF stuff. Good on him for knowing his value, but you signed a contract my dude. Professional athletes in every sport deal with it.
If you look at when AEW was the hottest, that being when Punk and Kingston were feuding, Danielson was tearing people apart as the best heel in wrestling etc, we've fallen a long way. There are positives - FTR, Wardlow, Darby, Starks, Hobbs, Hook, Keith Lee, Statlander, Deeb, even Hangman (despite a botched reign) remain effective. This is put up or shut up time imo. Cut the dead weight, focus on your strengths, and see how far it can go, or watch as WWE snatches up your best players. |
AlexKzillion
05.30.22 | Agree with all that. And yeah even though I like the idea of the BCC... I think its a huge waste for Moxley, Kingston, PnP, and ESPECIALLY Danielson to all be wrapped up into one feud with Jericho and his goons. They all could all be doing far more interesting things... and quite frankly I don't buy Jericho and a bunch of midcard/elevation tier guys standing a chance against three main eventers and a top tag team but uhhhhh... tony says otherwise |
Divaman
05.30.22 | Yeah, I hate Cole too. I don't know, maybe I'll give it some more time before tuning in again. |
LunaticSoul
05.31.22 | I think the PPV was ok, but it is arguably the worst PPV ever in terms of stories AEW has ever thrown, despite fitting in an immense amount of stars. I need to bitch a bit so I will just review match and feud.
First of all, major gripe with 2022 AEW: They just elongated meaninglessly all feuds. This is what I would call...bad writing. that´s it, not much to say. If you dilute your storytelling with angles that are. . . pretty much the same thing. . . week after week, then you are not a weekly show but an itinerant circus. Pretty much, it took them 3 months to culminate storylines that were ready to be closed ARGUABLY A MONTH AND A HALF AGO. They are diluting too much and Dynamite is honestly a drag these days. Yes many things happen, many talented peeps. . . but the stories move at the speed of the DBZ anime. I can´t sit through 3 hours of main content for arguably 10 minutes worth of "development".
DUD - MJF v Wardlow - feud was good, but holy damn fuck they watered this for a year by now. . . MJF is a dick, it´s not a work this time.
3.5 - Bucks v Hardys - I mean, it was a fun match, but placing it as a dream match when it already happened six times. . . also with the same exact feud? I watched it cause the crowd was into it but it was just a "there it is" match. No stakes really.
--- Jade v Anna - I just watched the entrances. I have no idea who Stokely Hathaway is aside from some tweets. Anna is the shittiest face-expression seller on the planet, lol the way she was like a mortal kombat character waiting for the fatality at the end made me feel bad
Jade has been ON TV every week and this was her PPV feud? lol. |
LunaticSoul
05.31.22 | --
4- 6-man clusterfuck: yeah it was fun, when you put like legitimately 5 of the most talented fucks on earth and a big dude. I could not just think about how much talent was crammed in this match for a feud that dragged. . . so. . . long. I can´t state how this feud sucked, Penta Zero´s gravey bullshit sucks, it´s the shittiest WWE-PG this federation has been lol. All these dudes should have mic time (PAC, great promo, Malakai also), should have had a stipulation happening and yeah instead they were the fun PWG match. Literally meandering meaningless feud. horrible timing, diluted as fuck. I hated this feud, liked the match
2 - Cole v Joe sucked. Joe lost in 12 minutes. I completely understand the Cole hatred. All points are valid lol
1.5 - Britt v Ruby. Ruby sucks. she is one of the most overrated WWE rejects ever. the only good thing she does is selling. Holy shit have you seen that sharpshooter.... she is a certified loser, booked as loser, talks as a loser. . . completely irrelevant get for the federation. she seems to be loved backstage but yeah that´s it. Britt, what can I say. . she dances ok with a stip and a better dance partner. that´s it.
SKIPPED - 6-man other dumb fucking feud. They went from Tay Conti as someone that did gotch piledrivers to blonde bimbo. fuck they burned her hard. Sammy too. Scorpio Sky is insipid. I could not make myself watch this match even though I was really curious to see if PvZ has it. skipped. fuck this feud, fuck who thought anything that happened in this feud was a good idea. fuck fuck fuck
SKIPPED but just to prove a point KOR v Darby - no feud behind, just two legit talents. Holy fuck was Darby bleeding. what the fuck happened? KOR is a killer. This should not have been in a PPV without some legitimacy that wasn´t "Darby is a draw".
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LunaticSoul
05.31.22 |
need to watch - Rosa v Deeb - everyone said it was very good. I skipped it because the two female matches before were completely bad. And the Feud was crap, though.
CLUSTERFUCK anarchy that was fun but yeah agree. you have Kingston/Bryan/Jericho/Mox in the same feud and it is just a waste. just - a - waste. Another diluted messy clusterfuck of a feud, at least it was aligned with the match. Match was a bloodbath though and I could not skip a second of it, so they did something good! But not why I tune in or buy a PPV, gotta be honest.
I had to skip it because 4.39 hrs of PPV is insane - 3-way tag. seriously jurassic express retained and the christian implosion ain´t happening yet? holy shit tony. first match of the feud when? all out? another three months??
Must have been fun considering the talent included. Swerve/Lee as a tag is another waste of talent
4 - Main event - The best bits were the crowd and Punk being the most average wrestler that has been called the GOAT I have ever seen. We all had envisioned scenarios of "the summer of punk" starting but that has also been decided to be diluted and pre-packaged in a slow burn that will take 2-months worth of will he won´t he promos and skits on Dynamite. jesus christ
There is a fat difference between long-term storytelling (Hangman´s arc) and dilution (happening through repetition or deliberately moving the story at a slow pace).
It is the first time ever I felt I could easily skip 1/4 of the PPV. so yeah. something is very off |
LunaticSoul
05.31.22 | If you look at when AEW was the hottest, that being when Punk and Kingston were feuding, Danielson was tearing people apart as the best heel in wrestling etc, we've fallen a long way. There are positives - FTR, Wardlow, Darby, Starks, Hobbs, Hook, Keith Lee, Statlander, Deeb, even Hangman (despite a botched reign) remain effective. This is put up or shut up time imo. Cut the dead weight, focus on your strengths, and see how far it can go, or watch as WWE snatches up your best players.
Yeah for real lol. the Punk v Kingston feud was 4 weeks long at best and it was a) clear b) well motivated c) a banger in each segment. compare to any other feud happening now. like what the fuck is this trite booking. Why did they hire enough talent to put everyone in a trio. Why is Malakai a joke, why everything takes ages, why why why has my fav 2021 federation turned into a clusterfuck in 2022. they were s o o o o hot in the post-covid stretch. everything was a must watch. now maybe 20% of the show. I am ok with watching highlights on youtube, first time ever this has happened with AEW content. and it is not a "honeymoon phase" kind of rethoric, the show is just worse. even mid-pandemic they had better stories |
rufinthefury
05.31.22 | damn yall REALLY soured huh.
I'm not nearly as negative as yall. DoN was definitely one of the more middling AEW PPVs, maybe the worst one ever afair. But at the same time the gripes I have with AEW are all with "Why did this fucker win and not this other obvious choice" IE: Jungle Express retaining their tag belts or Adam and Britt winning their stupid Owen matches.
As long as the matches are good tho I kinda don't care.
Also Malakai Black is in the perfect spot for him rn idk why yall wanna see more of him. |
rufinthefury
05.31.22 | DoN's bloat was also from TK talking to Dana White. He needs to ignore that man lol |
Storm In A Teacup
05.31.22 | Jungle Boy is the Greg Oden of AEW. A bust. |
0GuyMan0
05.31.22 | I don't feel the slightest bit bad in saying I'm far more intrigued with WWE right now. Roman might be nearing his end as a full-timer? Bailey return incoming? How the sweet fuck will they handle their biggest female star and wife of a bloodline member going AWOL? Cody is....fantastic?! At least WWE is a devil I know. I don't want to see squandered potential in the company that was supposed to be the saviour. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.31.22 | Is Julia Hart still wearing an eyepatch waiting for her story to take it's next step from 6 months ago? |
Storm In A Teacup
05.31.22 | Bayley a goat. Been waiting for her return since her injury. Hype. |
Divaman
05.31.22 | I won't be watching any WWE until Vince dies. |
JeetJeet
05.31.22 | told yall Jungle Boy was AEW's Ricochet. Great in the ring but lame as FUCK |
AlexKzillion
05.31.22 | Gotta agree with Lunatic that Ruby kinda sucks. Everything she does looks sooooo deliberate and unnatural and she's not all that athletic either. I was really behind her back when she first faced Britt and I see people complaining a lot at how little she's been used since but ehhhhhh I think its fine (if anything she's pushed too hard for my liking). |
AlexKzillion
05.31.22 | Also I like to think I don't take myself too seriously but I can't stand the Jurassic Express gimmick. Literal dinosaur + small flippy guy who could be ran over by an 18-wheeler and still kick out... managed by Christian who would've torn these guys to pieces on the mic back in the day. Shame too cause Christian never wrestles despite still looking amazing in the ring.
But at the same time idk what you could possibly change about them. Like I don't think either guy could possibly do a different gimmick especially jungle boy |
rufinthefury
05.31.22 | Storm they blew off the Julia Hart stuff at DoN.
Jungle Boy is going to be just fine. He's been over his entire run until right now when he and Luchaman got the tag belts. Once they finally pull the trigger on the Christian turn, which I frankly expected and wanted at DON, he'll be right back on top. |
rufinthefury
06.02.22 | Dynamite last night was fucking awesome. That MJF pipebomb promo is one for the ages, definitely a worthy successor to Punk's original.
Only sloppy things were actually CM Punk himself and the Blood and Guts match announcement which I thought was rushed and kinda shitty |
0GuyMan0
06.03.22 | Came in like a lion, went out like a lamb imo.
I think Jungle Boy is gonna be OK. The crowd still loves him and he's not gonna get WORSE in the ring. He's leaps and bounds better on the mic (like a 3 or 4) than he was before (a literal, actual 0) and there's plenty of time to grow up. |
Divaman
06.03.22 | I haven't seen how he's been doing lately, butI always liked JB. |
Divaman
06.03.22 | Any word on Omega? |
LunaticSoul
06.03.22 | Yeah yesterday's Dynamite was very good, it just missed a good wrestling match imho
Anyway, ehm, I am sour because if you ask me 5 hours of attention plus 3 hours each week of course I will have an opinion and bitch and complain. it's a lot of time to dedicate to a product that went down in quality lol |
SIMBOLIC
06.03.22 | Punk sucks
His whole shtick was standing up to the WWE for putting names high in the card over people who actually earned it.
Then goes to the UFC and does the exact same thing. Takes two PPV spots off actuall martial artists for an ego boost.
Total whiny hypocrite |
Divaman
06.03.22 | That's pretty much how I feel. I never found him interesting in the WWF, and it killed me that when he joined AEW, all of the wrestlers I'd been watching and enjoying for two years had to job for him.
And I fucking hate that stupid song. |
rufinthefury
06.03.22 | So I have a take on the MJF promo, which I loved ofc.
I only have one issue with MJF's promo and it has nothing to do with MJF himself: the timing. If I were TK you wouldn't see MJF for 3 weeks, there's be 0 official statements about him, and then you surprise appearance him to do the same promo. And I say this because we just watched MJF take 10 powerbombs and get stretchered away with an oxygen mask on, only to appear no worse for wear just 3 days later. It kinda no sells what Wardlow did to him, plus if they had waited the speculation about MJF's contract would be BUZZING if they had waited. But meh, small complaint in the Grand scheme of things. |
Divaman
06.03.22 | Sensible point. |
rufinthefury
06.04.22 | Big news: CM Punk injured, out to have surgery, but he is NOT relinquishing the title. Next Wednesday we will have a battle royal and the winner will face Jon Moxley in the main event to determine an Interim champion |
Divaman
06.04.22 | Swell. Yeah, I guess they better give the title to Moxley or Danielson. Ridiculous that it's an "interim" title. |
rufinthefury
06.04.22 | Scorpio Sky is also injured. The Summer of Pain. |
Divaman
06.05.22 | Unfortunate. |
AlexKzillion
06.06.22 | okay ngl... while cody going back to wwe was already super unlikely, i didn't think there was any way in hell he'd become the most over babyface in all of wrestling just two months after returning |
Divaman
06.06.22 | Is he? Well good for him. I like Cody. I think a lot of why the fans turned on him in AEW had to do with Brandi. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.06.22 | He just had a mega match last night that will get him over even more |
AlexKzillion
06.06.22 | yeah i think cody has benefitted wwe more than any of the wwe ship jumpers have benefitted aew, even danielson. looks like he's the next face of the company now that roman may be leaving for hollywood |
rufinthefury
06.06.22 | that Cody vs Seth match last night was awesome. Glad I watched the PPV. watched the NXT IYH show too and the in-ring stuff as really good, no idea about storylines though.
But fr that HIAC last night is an all timer. For better or worse, people are going to remember and talk about that match for years. Shoutout to Cody man, proved all the doubters wrong. My guys is now 3-0 over Seth, and he beat him with a fucking torn pec in the final match lmao |
Divaman
06.06.22 | It's ironic that Cody, the original face of the wwe's biggest rival federation in decades, might be the guy who leads wwe into a new era. |
AlexKzillion
06.06.22 | saw someone on twitter say cody's bruising was the after effects of malakai's mist lmao |
rufinthefury
06.07.22 | l o n g t e r m b o o k i n g
so Edge's new faction already turned on him tonight, probably because they need a new big babyface now that Cody is out for a hot minute. Really funny that Edge made his super edgy faction and got kicked out of it after not even a month tho lol |
rufinthefury
06.09.22 | We have a new belt, the All Atlantic Championship.
Tony. STOP. |
AlexKzillion
06.11.22 | jungle boy cowering in fear at the prospect of a ladder match was fucking ridiculous lmao. get the belts off these clowns now... literally anyone would be better than JE at this point
and for the love of god why hangman feuding with cole AGAIN????????? |
LunaticSoul
06.12.22 | well, if Tana/Moxley is headlining forbidden door, which legitimately could be, I wonder if we will not really get that Okada singles match and they go for a 2 v 2. Would be honestly underwhelming after Page challenged Okada directly. I guess it also depends what happens now at Dominion.
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Storm In A Teacup
06.12.22 | For awhile I was dismayed that AEW has fallen so quickly but now I’m over it and just hope Tony Khan doesn’t ever overdose on his uppers in a fatal way. Clearly he already overdoses on the uppers so I can’t hope for it in general. |
AlexKzillion
06.12.22 | "I wonder if we will not really get that Okada singles match and they go for a 2 v 2."
God I fucking hope not. Give me Hangman/Okada or Hangman/Jay or even a triple threat between the three just don't fucking include Cole in any way please.
Hangman does good shit, Jay White seems really cool, Okada is an undeniable legend apparently (don't know anything about NJPW lol), Cole is the anchor that sinks all ships. I don't even want Cole there to eat the pin... Hangman would lose nothing getting pinned by Okada or White. |
AlexKzillion
06.12.22 | https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/vaik9g/dominion_612_spoilers_iwgp_world_champion_has/
Seems like my prayers were answered? |
rufinthefury
06.12.22 | Jay White is so unbelievably good. Unreal that he won't even be 30 until October. |
rufinthefury
06.13.22 | Absolutely horrendous AEW news today. The downward spiral continues.
TLDR: Jeff Hardy DUI, Britt/Marina/Rosa backstage drama |
AlexKzillion
06.14.22 | Idek if its possible to feel bad for Jeff anymore. Dude is the goat but just seems to do it over and over again, hard to have any sympathy at this point
As for the Rosa drama... in the videos I saw it very much looks like she was fucking with Marina. Sandbagged the suplex and no sold the arm bar. Could explain why half Rosa's matches are great and half of them are trash with no explanation... she only puts over who she wants to. |
rufinthefury
06.14.22 | Jeff has to go. To prison. He's the next Sunny, just waiting to kill someone. I firmly believe his body is so banged up that he literally cannot wrestle and be sober, it's a pick one issue for him. He can either wrestle and be on drugs or not wrestle and be sober. He should pick not-wrestling.
For the Rosa drama, the only move she's sandbagging on is the suplex, the rest of it is just really shitty communication and chemistry between the two girls which makes me think she wasn't even sandbagging that spot on purpose, just trying to get their timing right. I do put some onus on Rosa as the veteran, she should have had control, but it takes two to make a shitty match and Marina being greener than grapes surely was the crux of the issue here.
I'm just not ready to turn on Rosa because of one terrible match against a particularly terrible wrestler. Ivelisse is not redeemed because of this lol |
Divaman
06.15.22 | I'd be sad to hear it if it was true. I really like Rosa. |
AlexKzillion
06.15.22 | "but it takes two to make a shitty match and Marina being greener than grapes surely was the crux of the issue here."
oh yeah for sure. though a part of me thinks Rosa, who has grinded for a decade+ to get where she is today, probably doesn't care much for Marina who just got two consecutive title shots despite being the greenest woman on the roster. |
rufinthefury
06.15.22 | And I can certainly believe that too, I just don't think she'd be dumb enough to purposefully sabotage the match knowing it would make her look bad too. If that really did happen, I just hope she learned from this and doesn't do it again, but really this is the only time I've seen Rosa in a situation like this and I don't think it's a problem. Super overblown imo |
AlexKzillion
06.15.22 | Yeah I wouldn't think anything of it if Marina and Britt weren't liking the tweets. Didn't even notice while watching the match even.
Def don't think any of this is a work tho cause this situation benefits absolutely nobody. Just makes the locker room look like a clown show. |
rufinthefury
06.15.22 | holy fucking shit yall. Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace hush money scandal just broke and it's wild. This might have some serious repercussions, jfc
This is the most insane month of wrestling news I've ever witnessed |
AlexKzillion
06.16.22 | That's the least surprising shit I've read this week lmao. Craziest part is it actually got picked up by a major news outlet. |
rufinthefury
06.30.22 | Forbidden Door was fucking amazing. Actually a god tier PPV.
Blood and Guts not so much lol
OC vs Ospreay was MOTN for me easily. MOTY contender. |
AlexKzillion
06.30.22 | didn't end up getting forbidden door tho i heard it was great
i don't think i've ever been less interested in aew with punk mjf danielson and kenny all inactive. christian's heel turn has been awesome so far tho |
rufinthefury
06.30.22 | WATCH FORBIDDEN DOOR
YOU HAVE TO |
AlexKzillion
08.04.22 | so the payoff to the kingston/jericho feud is......................... jericho goes over in an awful match and kingston downgrades to facing sammy at the ppv????????????????????
i do not regret missing the last month of dynamites lmao. legitimately awful booking by any metric
can't believe i'm saying this but I'm far more intrigued by WWE right now |
JeetJeet
08.04.22 | I've been half-ass keeping an eye on NXT and its been kinda cool aside from the 1 or 2 occasional lame creative decisions and a few corny characters.
Adam Cole, KOR, and Fish turned on the Bucks last night in the most predictable way ever and I feel like I've seen these characters orbit around each other for years and I'm kinda just bored of it all. They're all pretty cool individually but fuck man...please get them away from each other these guys have all been clustered together for too long man. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | Bucks are never cool. They don’t look or act like they belong on tv. Just a couple of shmucks. Nick has some decent moments but Matt drags them down to the lowest level of quality. Adam Cole is not good anymore, Kyle O Reilly is wasted, lol Bobby Fish is Qanon so fuck him. |
Zorg
08.04.22 | Bobby Fish is Q?
Eddie Kingston sucks. He looks like a bum you'd find on any major city street corner. |
AlexKzillion
08.04.22 | "Adam Cole, KOR, and Fish turned on the Bucks last night in the most predictable way ever and I feel like I've seen these characters orbit around each other for years and I'm kinda just bored of it all. They're all pretty cool individually but fuck man...please get them away from each other these guys have all been clustered together for too long man."
cornette claims these guys always stick together and will continue to because it keeps them at the top of the card. can kinda tell with how the bucks and redragon are completely lost in the shuffle when kenny/cole aren't around |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | They probably are. Look at how FTR got held down for a year and still can't get the aew titles |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | The slow burn on storyline in aew is preposterous. I'm pretty sure I read that in the last month or two they blew off the varsity blondes and Malachi Lame's feud. That had potential to be good. Malachi said wwe held him back from storytelling. I think that they held him back from horrible storytelling. |
AlexKzillion
08.04.22 | "The slow burn on storyline in aew is preposterous."
it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't telegraph literally everything... i just got to the point where that shit doesn't intrigue me anymore, if anything it tells me i don't have to watch cause i already know where the story is heading, on top of being able to predict the result of 90% of the matches. |
rufinthefury
08.04.22 | My issue with the long term stuff is that when the plans get derailed by injury (like right now with MJF vanishing because CM Punk got hurt) Tony never calls an audible. He's way too married to his plans to the detriment of the current product. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | That reminds me of aews inability to call audibles for major injuries. Nothing like that has happened in awhile but there are so many injuries in the company it's decimated them and Tony hasn't done anything to make good stories in the meantime. And now Team Taz is...non existent. Ugh. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | I realize now I kind of just said what you said rufin. |
rufinthefury
08.04.22 | haha great minds think alike.
That being said, despite my gripes with AEW I do think it's picked back up where it left off. The past two Dynamites have both been great, feels like how AEW used to feel again.
Also fuck that Interrim champion shit, Moxley is the legitimate champion right now |
Storm In A Teacup
08.04.22 | Agree. The only reason he is not being declared legitimate is it is CM Punk |
Divaman
08.05.22 | Eff CM Punk. |
AlexKzillion
08.05.22 | What's stupid about it too is we know a) nobody is taking the interim belt from Mox (one might think Jericho could win this week, but punk hates jericho irl and prob won't work with him) and b) Punk is going over Mox when he comes back... guaranfuckingteed. |
Divaman
08.05.22 | Yep. |
LunaticSoul
08.06.22 | There was nothing of interest in three shows this week. AEW is at its lowest imho. |
rufinthefury
08.07.22 | If you missed BotB3 go out of your way to watch Takeshita vs Cesaro from last night. Absolute technical masterpiece |
Storm In A Teacup
08.08.22 | I like how undisputed era splits up and no one cares. |
rufinthefury
08.08.22 | Oh no I actually care a lot. This is perfect, it makes sure none of my favorites are stuck fighting anyone in Undisputed Elite and instead they can all fight each other. Actually perfect.
Also it made that kid cry! |
Storm In A Teacup
08.08.22 | 🤣🤣🤣 actually that is a great point! (The first part) 🤣🤣 |
AlexKzillion
08.08.22 | i like kenny and redragon
i don't like cole and the bucks (especially as babyfaces lmfao)
hilarious duality here |
LunaticSoul
08.08.22 | Take Claudio was great. Unrelated but also not, fuck me I miss NJPW with cheering fans. Takeshita would be such a huge star if he jumped ship.
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rufinthefury
08.08.22 | Takeshita is destined to be a star no matter where he ends up imo. He's just ridiculously good.
Need me a trio of Yuta, Shola, and Take |
rufinthefury
08.11.22 | Mox v Jericho was better than expected. CM Punk is byke, hopefully MJF back soon too, Kenny coming back to be the YB's partner for sure, hype is real. |
AlexKzillion
08.18.22 | punk returns and all the sudden aew becomes far more interesting
reports coming out today that punk and hangman actually have real heat and punk going at hangman in his promo last night was totally unplanned |
AlexKzillion
08.18.22 | really lends credence to the rumors of cliques forming backstage... with punk teaming with FTR and working with MJF and Wardlow almost in opposition to the undisputed elite all staying in their bubble |
rufinthefury
08.18.22 | Last night's dynamite was amazing. Actual classic episode for AEW.
>reports coming out today that punk and hangman actually have real heat and punk going at hangman in his promo last night was totally unplanned
Damn I haven't heard that specifically, but yeah it's been a trend that everyone who goes after CM Punk has a speech about saving the company from Punk. It's happened like 3 times now. Clearly something is up. |
AlexKzillion
08.18.22 | They're saying Punk was so mad they weren't even sure if he'd show up last night LMAO what is happening
god there is nothing that compares to some good wrestling drama |
rufinthefury
08.18.22 | I fucking love it man. And yeah I found a couple articles now, this is some delicious gossip. Punk mad that Hangman called him out on the Cobana bullshit, but at least Hangman cut that promo face to face. Punk doing a "come out if you're not a wuss" promo when the guy aint scheduled to appear is some real bitch shit |
AlexKzillion
08.18.22 | Yeah as much as I love Punk's work dude is a complete jackass no doubt about it lmao... for such a big Brett fan he sure has a lot of HBK in him |
AlexKzillion
08.18.22 | OH SHIT the moxley/punk title unification got moved to the dynamite right before the ppv wtf is happening |
DinosaurJones
08.18.22 | I think TK is upset at Mox for the Effy match, and Mox is dropping the title. |
Divaman
08.19.22 | So now might be a good time to start watching again? |
rufinthefury
08.19.22 | hell yeah you should be watching now. Punk and Mox are back, I expect MJF to show up either at All Out or the week after too. Shit is lookin good, backstage drama cookin up, it's all goin hot |
AlexKzillion
08.19.22 | yeah i went from being as checked out as can be to willing to pay any amount of money to see a punk/hangman rematch lmao |
rufinthefury
08.19.22 | Alright here's my fantasy booking that I doubt is going to happen but I would like it:
CM Punk and Moxley match next week gets interrupted by Adam Page, DQ finish from Page hitting either man (but preferably Punk). This leads to a three-way match at All Out for the title where CM Punk wins via full heel turn, and at the same time Mox and Adam Page get real upset with each other. Mox would be super pissed Hangman is fucking with his big title matches. Next week's Dynamite Punk gets his evil victory promo interrupted by MJF for our next program, Tweener MJF vs Unhinged Heel CM Punk. Meanwhile Mox and Hangman Page can enter a feud to give Hangman some fire again (and trade some wins cuz they both need em). |
AlexKzillion
08.20.22 | Gotta think they are setting up something along those lines after moving up the title unification yeah^^^
also... is it me or did Miro like actually kick the shit out of buddy on rampage, that shit looked awfully real lmao |
rufinthefury
08.20.22 | I didnt notice lol but probably. Miro can be stiff when he wants.
shoutout to Bryan Alvarez for publicly shitting on TK's booking of the women's division, it's about time someone high profile did it. |
AlexKzillion
08.25.22 | DUDE WTFFFFFFF |
rufinthefury
08.25.22 | Absolutely LOVED tonight's episode. Damn it feels good to be a Mox stan.
Anyways, here's my thinking for that finish: Punk breaks his foot, out for a few months, so they do the interim stuff. But now we're here and it actually turns out Punk is gonna be out more like 6-8 months, much longer than anticipated. So get him back, do a quick job, back to recovery, no more stupid Interim title bullshit. |
AlexKzillion
08.25.22 | "no more stupid Interim title bullshit"
just in time to crown a women's interim champion lmao |
AlexKzillion
08.25.22 | kingston and sammy apparently got into a physical altercation backstage which resulted in kingston getting suspended and their match at all out nixed
shit is really going off the rails lmao |
rufinthefury
08.25.22 | Bro is i feel so bad for Rosa. Watch this same exact shit happen with her now. Cursed title reign |
DinosaurJones
08.26.22 | Why the hell isn't Ricky Starks being pushed to the damn moon??? |
rufinthefury
08.26.22 | I mean, he's getting his singles push right now lol. He just cut a fantastic face promo tears in his eyes and all, gonna have the Hobbs PPV match, go from there. |
AlexKzillion
08.26.22 | if starks doesn't get a title shot by the end of the year i'm quitting wrestling forever
no really
only exception is if hobbs gets one instead
team taz 4ever (except brian cage lol) |
rufinthefury
08.27.22 | Rampage was quite bad tonight. Idk how Dynamite is so good and then they botch their pre-recorded show, like it's so noticeably worse both visually and in audio. For example: HoB vs DO should have ended in DQ, the camera clearly showed Miro hitting HoB members, no DQ and instead DO wins by roll up.
Ortiz and Ruby vs Tay and Sammy, Ortiz went from no blood one second to literally covered in blood the next. Why? Cuz they edited out the spot where he got busted open so it looked fucking bizarre.
Same for the ending of Dustin v Claudio. On TV what we saw was a botch piledriver into an accidental dick hit into Claudio winning out of nowhere with one move. They missed the entire actual ending sequence. |
rufinthefury
08.27.22 | also The Factory should not be anywhere near this Hobbs vs Starks feud. We had a betrayal where Hobbs went for a critical injury, that's enough, we have our heat. We dont need Starks going through jobbers first. |
LunaticSoul
08.27.22 | was Dynamite that good? I skipped the first hour as it seemed yet another hour of filler content. Happy we get MCMG on PPV, I absolutely can´t wait for Lethal to GTFO to ROH.
The main event was stellar and the world championship was...interesting to say the least, but they are still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from making me commit to watch for 2 hours. 70% of the feuds now suck. |
AlexKzillion
08.27.22 | They need Punk and MJF back soooo bad
Also they need Danielson on his own again
And Eddie away from anything involving the JAS |
AlexKzillion
08.27.22 | Also where on earth has hangman been these past couple weeks??? Seems like they're either a) gonna have him face Mox at the ppv or b) have him as a part of the DO in the trios championship... which is fine but like... the dude is a former world champion how does he have just nothing going on??? |
AlexKzillion
08.27.22 | And how the fuck did they manage to cool off Wardlow so much??? Dude was like the most over guy in wrestling a couple months ago now he's FTR's third wheel |
rufinthefury
08.27.22 | Danielson is on his own, he hasnt dealt with his BCC guys in a while. He's locked into that Jericho feud for custody of Daniel Garcia and none of his boys came to help him when Hager jumped in. The problem is he's in a feud with Jericho lmfao
Hangman is being booked so badly. I could forgive the "I'll be cheering for the Dark Order" shit if HE HAD ACTUALLY DONE THAT BUT HE WASNT EVEN THERE LAST NIGHT SO WHAT THE FUCK TONY?? |
rufinthefury
08.27.22 | unfuckingfortunately. They beat up Starks backstage and were like "yeah we doing this for you Hobbs!" Fucking idiotic. |
rufinthefury
09.01.22 | this is ass. |
rufinthefury
09.01.22 | Mox cut a promo killing Punk, then left a contract that was already signed for a title match with him in the ring. So who is gonna take the contract for the match? well, CM Punk's trainer Ace Steel came out and grabbed the contract. and now we just had a big dramatic segment where Punk goes from down in the dumps but then Ace comes out and gives him a pep talk and now CM Punk is fired up as a big babyface for the All Out match against a heelish Mox.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb |
rufinthefury
09.01.22 | im actually so upset about this Main Event build lmfao brooo what a fucking fumble. Just horrible. And Mox is gonna lose clean to a face CM Punk I can fucking see it, oh my god. wretched. im down bad |
AlexKzillion
09.01.22 | punk shouldn't be anywhere near the title after getting his ass kicked.
TK buried the entire locker room with that open contract bullshit.
and what is the point of competing in the death defying career shortening casino ladder match for a title shot when you can just take Mox's open challenge??
booking has been kinda lackluster for a while now but this is a whole new low |
rufinthefury
09.01.22 | 100% in agreement with everything Alex. Especially all that shit about the open challenge, not ONE motherfucker went down there and tried for it? What the fuck |
AlexKzillion
09.01.22 | huge missed oppurtunity
the locker room should've emptied... all out brawl around the arena
then MJF just casually strides to the ring and signs the contract while everyone else is distracted with a shit eating grin on his face
or the house of black makes there way to the ring and malakai signs the contract as buddy and brodie demolish everyone in sight... or even do the lights out shit with malakai holding the signed contract as the lights come back up
or have miro go on a rampage to the ring
or have hangman or eddie fight to the death for it, bloodied and all
or like LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE besides some random non-wrestler coming out and giving punk an uninterrupted pep talk lmao
and who knows how many non-title feuds you could potentially start just off this one event. |
rufinthefury
09.02.22 | Tony Khan just straight up said his women's champion isn't a draw. What is wrong with this idiot |
AlexKzillion
09.02.22 | honestly the shit that annoys me most about all this is how much most of the IWC has been defending TK through all this
like imagine if vince booked this punk/mox feud with roman and brock... it'd be a never ending dunk line. not TK though, dude can literally do no wrong in a lot of peoples eyes... so many excuses i can't stand it |
rufinthefury
09.02.22 | Speaking of AEW fans driving me crazy with their defending of the company, I saw 2 things recently that I should just let go but I cant lmao.
the first was someone defending CM Punk being sloppy in the ring by comparing him to Bret Hart and saying "Bret Hart was never a great athlete either" and I wanted to choke that fucker out
The second I saw today where someone said "Rey Mysterio was never that good of a luchador, he's watered down compared to Rey Fenix" I wanna fucking choke that fucker out |
AlexKzillion
09.04.22 | "Rey Mysterio was never that good of a luchador, he's watered down compared to Rey Fenix"
bruh lmao |
AlexKzillion
09.04.22 | decided im prob not buying the ppv tonight... there's 11 matches on the card and the only ones i'm remotely excited to see are pinnacle/2010 tna trios, elite/DO trios final, and hobbs/starks
im interested in punk/mox but more in a "trainwreck i can't look away from" way |
rufinthefury
09.04.22 | yeah I'm bootlegging it tonight but I'll still be watching live. First AEW PPV I have not paid for, but it's my lil protest against the shit ass main event build. Even JR shit on it recently lol.
BUT! In spite that, I am very excited. Watching the pre-show now. |
rufinthefury
09.05.22 | That was the first truly bad AEW PPV. Solid C.
Acclaimed vs SIOG was match of the night and Athena vs Jade was a close runner up |
rufinthefury
09.05.22 | man fuck CM Punk yo |
AlexKzillion
09.05.22 | the company is literally burning to the fucking ground rn holy fucking shit |
AlexKzillion
09.05.22 | Punk and the Bucks got into a backstage altercation
Swerve in our Glory were heated the acclaimed got cheered over them, do not want to give them a rematch
Toni Storm said in so many words thunder rosa lost her smile
Malakai seemingly done with the company for a while??
WHAT IS HAPPENING |
rufinthefury
09.05.22 | Punk pulled out a fuckin grenade and said EVERYONE DIES at that presser like oh my god. Fuck him.
Tony needs to punish him and Ace Steel who apparently BIT Kenny Omega in a fight. As in fucking FIRE THEM. |
AlexKzillion
09.05.22 | reading comments itt from last years all out... holy shit times have changed |
rufinthefury
09.06.22 | I was at both the Punk debut and All Out live last year. What a difference a year makes. For the worse.
Cody Rhodes got out just in time, what a chad. |
AlexKzillion
09.06.22 | cody is primed to be wwe's next megastar upon his return... think he's literally the ONLY guy who can take the titles off roman at this point after drew got vanquished |
rufinthefury
09.06.22 | Tony Khan please stop being a pussy mark for once in your life |
LunaticSoul
09.06.22 | Punk's behaviour is some of the pettiest, narcissist, psychotic shit I have seen in a while. I expect crowds to turn on him and have a double turn by grand slam, because he is going to get nuclear heat. If he doesn't get nuclear heat, something's wrong with people. Or maybe AEW truly have a large casual fanbase that does not turn on the internet at all.
Like, his behaviour at the scrum is like.... I don't even know how to describe it. What a fucking idiot lol |
rufinthefury
09.06.22 | The best case scenario here is they pull an MJf and turn a shoot into a work. Get that belt off Punk and onto MJF asap and then let The Elite and Punk go at it. FTR w/Punks vs Bucks and Kenny.
BUT realistically they won't fucking work together and someone has to go. Ace Steel is gone, that's a foregone conclusion to me. The question is will The Elite walk or will Punk walk? And either way, how badly will that hurt AEW's fanbase? |
rufinthefury
09.06.22 | but god damn fuck CM Punk. what an unprofessional piece of shit |
DinosaurJones
09.07.22 | AEW is looking ROUGH right now |
rufinthefury
09.07.22 | Bro I'm dead lmfaoooo. DJ never in here but now that AEW in on the ropes here he come to get an ez dunk ahahaha
yeah that Triple H shit about "It's a marathon not a sprint" ringing real true right now. TK fucked upppppp |
LunaticSoul
09.07.22 | a rough company that did two 1M viewers shows in a row and sold still pretty decently for a PPV with two-weeks worth of build up. . . but yeah. I am honestly curious on what will happen. if any, I hope for a rise in popularity again of NJPW |
DinosaurJones
09.07.22 | Someone's gotta be on their way out, and I think it's gonna be Punk. Everyone (dirt sheets, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt) is pretty much rallied against him.
On the other hand, I personally have never been a fan of the Elite. Except Hangman. But they "built the company." TK is stuck between a rock and a hard place. |
rufinthefury
09.07.22 | Current status is that everyone involved in the altercation backstage is suspended. Including people that were just trying to break up the fight. Only person there's no word on is Punk which leads me to believe he's fucked.
Get him gone. |
AlexKzillion
09.07.22 | looks like punk got injured again during the match with moxley so he was gonna be on the shelf yet again no matter what his punishment is going to be lol |
LunaticSoul
09.07.22 | I'm an elite stan. Watching AEW without Kenny, it's just not right lol |
AlexKzillion
09.07.22 | I'd love to just go back to the DON 2021 roster + Punk, Danielson and Toni Storm. None of the other 100 signings have really improved the product in any way imo. |
rufinthefury
09.08.22 | Trios Belts stripped from The Elite, the Death Triangle are our new champs! Tournament to declare the new AEW Heavyweight Championship and BD is a hot contender! DG has a fucking AWESOME victory with GOD DAMN WESTSIDE GUNN DOIN HIS ENTRANCE LETS GOOOO
Great episode despite all the bullshit. |
AlexKzillion
09.08.22 | Yeah that was actually a great dynamite
I'm confused over what's going on with MJF's coin though... seems like its essentially a MITB briefcase? |
AlexKzillion
09.08.22 | Also thought it was cool that everyone in the trios match and the world title tournament were day 1 guys with the exception of danielson |
rufinthefury
09.08.22 | the fact that Punk hurt himself in the Mox match and was gonna be stripped of the belt anyways is so fuckin ridiculous lmfao |
AlexKzillion
09.08.22 | the aew ratings discussion is so tired at this point
it's clear as day they are locked into a floor of about 900k viewers every week, and can push it to a max of 1.2mil if TK books a big match or two, usually involving at least one of punk danielson moxley or MJF
and that's it, that's all there is to it |
rufinthefury
09.10.22 | Sammy beating Darby so easily is a travesty. At least Mox will kill him |
Divaman
09.24.22 | So is Punk gone for good? |
AlexKzillion
09.24.22 | Kinda looking that way rn but who knows... his triceps injury is supposed to be like a nine month recovery so he was gonna be gone anyways, gives them a long time to smooth things over
Plus there is just far too much money to be made from a Punk/Elite feud after all this
Think TK will try his best to rebuild bridges but chances are he's done in aew
My biggest question is... if punk and aew were to cut ties... would he dare return to wwe? |
Divaman
09.24.22 | Good question. But I’m just as glad if he’s gone. |
DinosaurJones
09.25.22 | He's gotta go. Does he draw enough to splinter the locker room AND justify his pay? Probs not. |
AlexKzillion
09.25.22 | It's interesting because the ratings from the last three weeks are the strongest they've been in some time despite no Punk and no Elite... but I also think it has to do with title tournament and them putting ppv main event level matches on their shows every week. Think this coming week will be the true test as it seems like its gonna be just a normal dynamite. |
Divaman
09.25.22 | Where is Miro these days? There’s a guy they really didn’t use well. |
AlexKzillion
09.25.22 | Miro has had like two matches in the three months since his big return lmao
I don't think there's a bag they've fumbled harder than Miro over the past year |
rufinthefury
09.25.22 | Miro and Andrade are both wasted |
rufinthefury
09.25.22 | Buddy Matthews is leaving at least for the foreseeable future. Huge L.
House of Burnout |
DinosaurJones
09.25.22 | BRODY KING AND JULIA HART FOR AAA MIXED TAG TEAM TITLES. THE HOUSE OF BLACK MUST LIVE ON. |
rufinthefury
09.25.22 | It's a real shame because Julia just found a great look too. Idk how House of Black goes on with just 2 members that are intergender. AAA mixed title is legit the only option I can think of |
rufinthefury
09.29.22 | Last night's Dynamite was one of the worst in a very long time. Really bad, and not the usual AEW bad, it felt like a RAW from 8 years ago bad. Long meandering opening promo that was stupid and insulting to the audience leading to a match no one wanted, a segment of "Here come the ladies!" where the champ got overshadowed by the new kid on the block (who didnt even participate in the match) and the top division heel, a random match between Mox and Juice which had ZERO heat with the crowd, etc. Literally the only good parts were Yuta beating up MJF in the sky box and the Jericho v Bandido match at the end. It was wretched.
Saraya man, wtf. She did not used to be this bad on the mic but she was WRETCHED. Actually killed the crowd with her shitty promo. Unreal bad. |
AlexKzillion
09.29.22 | lol damn didn't catch last night live, guess i don't have to watch it back either |
AlexKzillion
09.29.22 | wait who is juice robinson and why is he getting a world title shot lol |
rufinthefury
09.29.22 | NJPW guy. Long history fighting Mox, was his first opponent post-WWE. But there was no build to this match lol it's just a random ass match |
Divaman
09.29.22 | Yeah, I wasn’t impressed. |
LunaticSoul
09.30.22 | I didn´t mind it considering probably half their roster resides in Florida. |
DinosaurJones
10.01.22 | Dynamite has felt very hit or miss lately. |
rufinthefury
10.01.22 | Willow is so great |
DinosaurJones
10.02.22 | Oh yeah, I forgot there's supposed to be a ranking system. |
rufinthefury
10.03.22 | Bryan Alvarez went to bat for TK fucking up Wardlow and FTR's bookings whereas Meltzer has turned on TK for not giving him scoops anymore lol. Shit is comedy |
AlexKzillion
10.03.22 | willow and jamie are my two fave women in the entire company, will watch their match sometime this week... pisses me off it got thrown onto rampage lol tho i guess its nice to see willow on tv at all |
AlexKzillion
10.03.22 | FTR got on the mic after a match for another promotion and demanded that tony started booking them and there are still people on reddit claiming all their complaining is a work lmao |
rufinthefury
10.06.22 | TNT: We Know Drama |
AlexKzillion
10.06.22 | this company is burning to the fucking ground lmao |
veninblazer
10.07.22 | at this point just fire Sammy. he's such a nuisance. it's bad enough that in the ring he can get choked out and destroyed with elbows only to hit a spanish fly like NOTHING happened (no-selling much) but he's unsafe and an annoying immature brat. Lmfao at him begging Dave for star ratings. If Sammy gets one 5-star match Kurt Angle should have at least 20. |
DinosaurJones
10.07.22 | The hypocrisy of Sammy releasing a vlog saying how he's so tired of all the backstage drama and yet being a complete shit starter himself is delicious.
UNLESS...
it's all a work, and he's being a bro and actually trying to help Andrade get fired like he wants.
IT'S AEW. EVERYTHING IS A WORK. IT'S ALL A WORK |
AlexKzillion
10.07.22 | yet another report saying kenny and the bucks threw zero punches during the entire six minute brawl
the spin is reaching parody levels at this point |
veninblazer
10.07.22 | the more times goes on the more i actually side with Punk's case over the Elite's. he handled it poorly but i get the idea that in his own mind it was justified because it was speculated that the Elite leaked that bullshit about Colt to the dirt sheets and it was conveniently made to make Punk look bad. he clearly had an emotional breakdown over it but it was a fight or flight response and the only fully likable party in the whole scrum was Larry. |
rufinthefury
10.08.22 | "Fight or flight?" Tf are you talking about lmfao |
AlexKzillion
10.08.22 | The way I see it... Punk's "if you got a problem come see me in the hallway" was a clear as day invitation to throw hands to anyone with a brain, the Elite took him up on it and what happened happened
All this stuff about "the elite just wanted to talk to punk" and "they didn't throw one punch" and that basically punk and steel jumped them... I just find it very difficult to believe and very much comes across like the Elite using the dirtsheets to spin public opinion in their favor |
AlexKzillion
10.08.22 | Also I'm very much over this whole "imagine a subordinate assaulting the executive vice president of their company and keeping their job" take as if the Elite's EVP titles mean fuck all and TK isn't paying Punk more than all three of them combined |
veninblazer
10.10.22 | it's wild lol. punk had valid reasons to be upset. he was told the elite were leaking lies about him to the sheets. hangman was saying in interviews he didnt need to take veteran advice. the elite are known to be secluded and not stick around as much to help the young guns like the actual professional vets like regal, moxley, danielson, ftr, and punk were. theyre not as helpful to the growth of a promotion. they ran cody out with their bullshit and punk was mad about it. now we've got people blindly taking the elite's side as if they were completely innocent in the lead-up. fuck outta here w that lol. |
DinosaurJones
10.13.22 | It's okay, guys. Renee Paquette is ALL ELITE. |
rufinthefury
10.14.22 | Dynamite last night was really great. Hangman cut an all timer promo. Dude is a bit hit or miss on the stick but when he hits he fucking hits a grand slam |
rufinthefury
10.19.22 | Holy Jesus fuck actually prayers up for Hangman Adam Page. On a routine bump too jfc. Another solemn reminder that pro-wrestling is real, the bumps at least. Really really awful. |
Divaman
10.19.22 | Jeez, what happened to Chuck Taylor? Dude looks like he was blown up with a bicycle pump. |
AlexKzillion
10.19.22 | yeah honestly it didn't look super bad in real time... wasn't until i saw the replays on twitter i realized he completely ate it
knew it had to have been bad when excalibur started reading the cards for rampage and next week's dynamite very very slowly |
LunaticSoul
10.19.22 | he is fine folks, "just" a concussion. I waited to see the episode and boy it sounded tragic from the live broadcast. I guess if a talent doesn't move nor gives signs and they have to remove a rope to let him out and stretch it, it was that serious. speedy recovery to the hanger |
rufinthefury
11.03.22 | Jeff Jarrett is here. We are officially TNA 2.0 |
0GuyMan0
11.04.22 | AEW is like 90% awful right now. what a change from a year ago. |
Divaman
11.17.22 | Last night was meh. |
AlexKzillion
11.17.22 | MJF is about to win the title and i somehow couldn't care less... haven't watched since the mox/hangman... and before that the episode after brawl out
don't even watch reviews for shows i missed or anything anymore |
rufinthefury
11.17.22 | Bandido had a banger win against Rush just to lose to Ethan Page last night, booooo. And I like Ethan Page too, but no.
I'll be watching Full Gear but my expectations are low so I'll hopefully be pleasantly surprised.
Btw they did all that teasing for the Elite just to have Pac and a graphic announce it to almost no fanfare? Lame |
rufinthefury
11.20.22 | Full Gear was amazing. AEW looks to be back on track |
LunaticSoul
11.20.22 | Full Gear was a great show! But I want to see better booking. |
AlexKzillion
11.20.22 | yeah will most likely be tuning in wednesday... hyped jamie won the belt |
DinosaurJones
11.22.22 | I'm probably more hyped about Jamie winning than I am about MJF, tbh |
rufinthefury
11.22.22 | WWE has better stories but I tried to watch RAW last week and I bailed after a half hour lol. I just watch the fed PPVs on Peacock cuz god damn their weekly show is unbearable
Dynamite has many flaws and Rampage is usually unnecessary viewing but I can still get through both shows with ease at least |
rufinthefury
11.23.22 | WWE definitely does not expect people to watch everything, AEW expects everyone to have seen everything plus that everything's indie career |
AlexKzillion
11.23.22 | wwe honestly has had so much good shit going on lately
- everything bloodline related is gold
- everything brawling brutes and imperium related is gold
- judgment day with dom mysterio is actually supremely entertaining?????
- damage control
- maximum male models!!!!!!
i don't watch raw or smackdown really ever but I actually go out of my way to watch youtube clips every week, and actually caught a few ppvs in a row
On the other hand, all I really care about in AEW anymore is MJF, Jamie Hayter, and the Acclaimed.......... and that's 90% because all my other favorites are never on TV like Ricky Starks and/or doing dumb meaningless crap all the time like Danielson |
rufinthefury
11.24.22 | MJF vs Ricky Starks is gonna FUCK. Oh my god am I so fucking happy we're finally getting that feud on the big stage. Let them go out and just promo against each other, please. |
DinosaurJones
11.24.22 | I know there's no chance in hell of Starks winning, but the feud should be awesome. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.11.23 | Well Stephanie just quit as co chair and from the board and rumors that HHH is gone, Saudi Arabia is buying Wwe to take it private and install Vince as boss until he dies |
AlexKzillion
01.11.23 | RIP WWE
its literally over |
Storm In A Teacup
01.11.23 | It looks like it really might be over. Raw last night was maybe my favorite Raw of the last decade. Very unfortunate |
LunaticSoul
01.11.23 | I woke up definitely not expecting this lol
Let´s talk about however how fucking great Omega v Ospreay at WK was yes? I can´t wait to see round 2, I was on the edge of my couch. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.25.23 | Man, my dawg basically bullet proof. |
AlexKzillion
01.25.23 | lmao i'm so glad the saudi reports ended up being bullshit |
rufinthefury
02.23.23 | Main event of Revolution should be TK vs Ariel Helwani |
rufinthefury
08.28.23 | All In was incredible. 81k people watching banger after banger after banger (and a bad women's match) after banger after banger.
Major LOL at Jack Perry getting into a fight with CM Punk cuz he was told to not go through real glass lmaooo |
Storm In A Teacup
08.29.23 | Need to watch all in. Need to bump this thread weekly. |
LunaticSoul
08.29.23 | I was at All In, twas fun. Although I think stadium shows for wrestling are quite bad. Tokyo Dome's size is perfect imho, I had similar tickets and view was so much better. Still fun experience, but yeah, unsure I'd do it again.
Still stranded in the UK lol, that has been less fun (national issue with flights yesterday, most flights cancelled). |
rufinthefury
08.30.23 | damn jealous of the All In experience. I'm going to All Out this weekend but it's definitely not the same scale lmao
The dirtsheets saying monitors fell on top of TK while the Joe v Jack fight was happening is hysterical |
0GuyMan0
08.30.23 | If not for Collision I'd be fucking done with AEW. fucking children top to bottom, including TK. If I was punk I'd want out. jfc with all these pissant indie fucks who wouldn't have a platform if not for a billionaire mark. Would love nothing more if I could pluck like ten of these dudes and stick them in NXT or in some cases the main roster. They may not be used the greatest (which is no different) but at least they'd be working with fucking professionals and I wouldn't have to endure that absolute shit show that is AEW programming. |
AlexKzillion
08.30.23 | i'm not sure i've watched any aew programming since the dynamite after brawl out last year
aew dirtsheets is unfuckwithable tho |
bloc
08.30.23 | I live for the dirtsheets |
LunaticSoul
08.31.23 | Honestly I enjoyed more watching half of the NJPW stars at RevPro the day before than All In. It is really just for the experience, you pay a lot to see not that much in a stadium.
Seeing Ishii, Shibata, Shingo from like 10 meters was great, fucking loved their matches as well.
I am also less into AEW lately, watching mostly highlights of the shows and just watch the big ones.
I think AEW booking is abysmal, in general. I think it has improved a bit lately but still way behind my own personal expectations on what a good story should be like.
For me their best feud ever was Hangman vs the Elite. Because it made sense, was long enough, created great wrestling, etc.
WWE does absolutely nothing for me, I think American wrestling in general is just fun to watch with friends but hard to take it "seriously", I have zero emotional investment on it versus I was cheering like a maniac for Naito in the G1. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.31.23 | Motion that this thread will always remain the official aew thread in honor of diva |
LunaticSoul
08.31.23 | Motion accepted. RIP Diva |
Storm In A Teacup
08.31.23 | We shall keep this home, wherever we may roam. |
AlexKzillion
08.31.23 | motion accepted [2]
i was really really into the bloodline story until roman went over cody at mania. really felt like the perfect time to drop the belts, amazing match too. also feel like all the bloodline stuff since then would be the same/better if roman didn't have the belts still |
AlexKzillion
08.31.23 | "For me their best feud ever was Hangman vs the Elite. Because it made sense, was long enough, created great wrestling, etc."
i complained about it a lot itt in the moment but kenny's title reign was kinda the peak of aew. i think punk/mjf is the best feud aew has ever done, and generally the best stuff in aew revolves around those two... but it feels like they're the best parts of an ultimately not great wrestling show, whereas it seemed like the whole show was great when kenny was champion and the peaks and valleys of that feud are a huge reason why |
0GuyMan0
08.31.23 | Man I don't think I can agree. To me the start of the golden era was when Hangman won the belt from Kenny. Darby and MJF on the same program showed that they were top-tier in-ring and would carry the promotion moving forward.
It's been a minute and I'm not looking it up, but IIRC for most of Hangman's reign (arguably the worst part of the golden era that isn't the women's division) Kenny and the Bucks were out injured / taking a break (so no cutler / nakazawa goofy shit). Miro was destroying people in the best TNT reign. Danielson's heel run / pre-BBC crap. Eddie's rise to the top. Wardlow's dissention from MJF. Punk literally did not miss (and arguably still hasn't) until the Brawl Out fiasco. Dax solo and FTR being on fucking fire perpetually. Toni Storm signed. Hayter elavated. Rosa kicking ass pre-injury. No Ring of Honor to worry about. Less sprinkling in of japan legends having awful matches. |
AlexKzillion
08.31.23 | actually nah you're right (though i think miro's tnt reign was mostly during kenny's run)
think punk getting injured the dynamite after beating hangman for the title was the turning point |
0GuyMan0
08.31.23 | There's good happening now, about 15% of what we see. MJF and cole works despite the goofinesss of it. Somoa goddamn joe being a killer. Punk, Takeshita, Starks, Hobbs / Miro both heating up, FTR and Juice / Jay, Willow is winning me over, Toni Storm continues to be a goddamn star. but man, I mostly just catch the highlights now. Can't stomach Mox anymore. Hate seeing Claudio wasted again. Takeshita doing dumb shit with Don instead of learning with the greats, Shida having to put over fucking Saraya (the worst possible option coming out of that match) after finally getting her moment with the belt in front of fans, Jack Perry turning out ot be an absolute entitled dumbass....too much to name. |
rufinthefury
09.01.23 | Guess I'm the last one here still watching regularly lol. But I get it, I have a lot of complaints myself. Primarily one: TONY KHAN IS A FUCKING MARK! GET CONTROL OF YOUR COMPANY YOU PUSSY!
But there's still plenty to like. They've got easily the best luchadors in America, Bullet Club Gold lives up to their name, BCC is there for the hardcore fans, Kenny is still putting on bangers, MJF is god tier and Adam Cole is synergizing well with him, Darby and Sting are phenomenal, FTR continues to be the best tag team in the world, Christian is god tier as heel "champ," and as always the in-ring product is almost always great.
Obviously I have issues, like the women's division being in the garbage, but there's nothing so bad to drive me away from watching. I'm NOT going back to weekly WWE viewing, fuck that, PPVs only works just fine for them, and I just don't give a shit enough about NJPW to keep up with it. Their booking is just as bad as everyone else's and they have no young stars atm lets be real.
As far as the CM Punk shit goes, I'm mostly just in the LOL category of fan. I enjoy the dirtsheet bullshit drama and Punk generates a lot of it because he's an egotistical nightmare, but I kinda like those personalities in wrestling. Makes things interesting, especially when the diva is sucked off daily by the guy running the show. It's very Shawn and Vince. |
LunaticSoul
09.01.23 | Story-wise, I really liked MJF and Eddie´s feuds with Punk because both of them shat on Punk and the matches were great
Mox´s one was a bit thrown away, I looked at All Out 2022´s card and damn on paper it kinda sucked. Almost like 2023 lol
The main problem with AEdub is that it is sometimes carried by great to good wrestling, the occasional good story, but in the long run, everything feels "lackluster". . . it´s like there is no long-term plans that were sustaining, at all, and continuity is also an issue. really they could use someone more prone in doing long term storytelling/continuity (may I say... a team of writers?)...e.g. what is that shit with AR Fox double turning in two weeks? or badass billy gunn gone for 30 seconds? How can´t you freaking let these moments breathe a bit before jumping on the gun, and then you have Jericho feuds lasting decades. Pacing is off and has been for quite some time.
But let´s be serious Punk is a disaster waiting to happen and I fucking hate seeing that primadonna playing the babyface role when you know he is such a a-hole in the back. just tone deaf, Wembley was 60% booing Punk if not more |
rufinthefury
09.01.23 | Punk isn't a disaster waiting to happen lol
It's happening! |
rufinthefury
09.02.23 | HE'S GONE! TONY ACTUALLY FIRED PUNK!!! |
Storm In A Teacup
09.03.23 | Tony going out to a Chicago crowd to do that is a twist |
AlexKzillion
09.03.23 | that video must have been pretty egregious/one sided lmaoo... honestly never thought he'd do it |
rufinthefury
09.03.23 | I'm so excited to be in the United Center tonight lol |
0GuyMan0
09.05.23 | I'm firmly in the camp that the fierce and unrelenting onslaught of childish bullshit in a TK-(mis)managed company directly led to this, but I don't think anyone would have a problem admitting it flat out was not going to work having Punk in that company anymore. It's really, really a shame for the fans. I really think punk and omega would have gotten around to doing business. Seeing punk and Danielson together would have been fantastic. Having him run a more serious-toned saturday program has been such a huge breath of fresh air...and it's all gone now. |
0GuyMan0
09.05.23 | Man my first comment in this thread reminds me of when I had so much hope for AEW and the possibilities. Now I can hardly stand to watch it despite wanting to see FTR / MJF / Toni / Juice / Miro. |
rufinthefury
09.05.23 | All Out was fun. Any and all Punk chants got boo'd down mercilessly |
LunaticSoul
09.06.23 | All Out was a great show, MEAT MEAT MEAT
|
rufinthefury
10.02.23 | Bryan Danielson vs Zack Sabre Jr was an instant classic. Absolutely amazing.
Also, Edge! |
Storm In A Teacup
10.17.23 | Holy shit Magnus/Nick Aldis is a wwe on screen gm |
LunaticSoul
10.17.23 | That's the weirdest thing honestly lol
ZSJ Bryan was everything I thought it would be and more, absolute masterclass |
0GuyMan0
10.17.23 | I gotta say, Pillman Jr's promo on NXT instantly makes him a hundred times more interesting than he ever was on AEW. Hell of a performance. |
JayEnder
10.17.23 | This company will go the way of WCW in less than five years time under Tony Khan's management. Dude is just a spoiled rich kid who's in way over his head. |
0GuyMan0
10.18.23 | If he didn't have an infinite wallet I'd agree.
His booking is god-awful but I won't knock him for providing jobs for so many. Whether that is conducive to a good wrestling product remains to be seen. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.08.23 | LA Knight having this success is so nice to see. E Li Drake! Dummy! Bop, yeah! |
Storm In A Teacup
11.08.23 | I wonder if he can legally do the dummy yeah gimmick and they are saving it for a future run as a heel |
0GuyMan0
11.10.23 | I think he commented on that in a recent interview, but I can't remember where and haven't been able to find it.
Dynamite has continued to be some of the worst shit I've seen since late-era Vince Raw in like 2021. It's a shame, when guys like MJF, Joe and Christian are doing everything in their power to make something out of what they're being given. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.18.24 | It just dawned on me Bayley is absolutely winning the Rumble and challenging Iyo 🤣 |
AlexKzillion
01.18.24 | have not really kept up with aew at all lately but saw mjf lost the title to joe in a sort of anti-climactic way?? |
Storm In A Teacup
01.19.24 | Anti climactic not neccesarily. Just bad execution and dragged on forever and was super obvious for the entire storyline. All the players are great even extending out to Mike Bennett Roderick Strong etc but the booking itself is a joke. Tony Khan is a joke. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.19.24 | Extremely convoluted. Adam cole announcing that when he is healed Wardlow will be world champ and will turn over the title to Cole was maybe the worst line ive ever heard from a wrestler who was once all time great. Boring line and more of Tony just revealing the boring booking plans in the future. |
rufinthefury
01.23.24 | The title scene is literally crippled with Adam Cole, MJF, and Omega all hurt. My prediction right now is the belt goes from Joe to Swerve to Hangman then back to MJF/Adam Cole, but who knows when those dudes get healthy.
also fuck Chris Jericho |
0GuyMan0
01.24.24 | It's a dumpster fire over there, which is a shame because Joe is on a fantastic run and getting what he deserves.
I hope to all fuck that Okada doesn't sign up. Far, FAR more interesting scenarios at WWE and he's got the tools to be massive. |
Storm In A Teacup
01.24.24 | At least the best thing is that Joe is the current champion. |
0GuyMan0
01.26.24 | Yep, but on Dynamite he rolled out of the ring calling for security to come take care of the guy he just plastered, so you know
it's only a matter of time before he's as big of a joke as everyone else |
Storm In A Teacup
01.26.24 | True. Hearing Hook talk corny and hesitant was rough too. |
Storm In A Teacup
03.16.24 | Wrestlemania 40 so far...
-Roman vs Cody
-seth vs drew
-roman and rock vs cody and seth
IYO SKY (c) vs. Bayley – WWE Women’s Championship match
Rhea Ripley (c) vs. Becky Lynch – Women’s World Championship match
Gunther (c) vs. Sami Zayn – WWE Intercontinental Championship match
The Judgment Day (Damian Priest and Finn Balor) (c) vs. 5 teams TBD – Six-pack challenge match for the Undisputed WWE Tag Team Championship
Logan Paul (c) vs. Kevin Owens vs. Randy Orton
LA Knight vs. AJ Styles
Jey Uso vs. Jimmy Uso |
Get Low
03.16.24 | that sounds terrible |
Storm In A Teacup
03.16.24 | Its pretty awesome actually. Everyone is really entertaining and booked great. |
Get Low
03.17.24 | The Royal Rumble killed any potential interest I had in getting back into WWE programming. I'll try again next year. |
AlexKzillion
04.11.24 | wrestlemania was pretty good. both main events were everything i wanted and more. sami/gunther was a banger. also loved punk screwing drew and priest cashing in lmaoooo.
i saw the bucks showed the punk/jungle boy footage last night. all i can say is wtf. the crowd was doing cm punk chants the whole time. and the skirmish lasted five seconds and was barely anything.
a couple summers ago i read "death of wcw" and the author pointed towards tony schiavone spoiling the rock/mankind title match on nitro (causing everyone to turn the channel to raw to watch mankind win the title) as the point of no return for wcw. i feel like showing that footage is gonna go down as the equivalent for aew. made them look like clowns, made cm punk look cool as what happened in the video is exactly what he told everyone happened, and now everyone is salivating over this punk/drew feud.
not to mention ospreay shitting on triple h last night. aew reminds me of hogan/bischoff era tna right now in the worst way possible. |
0GuyMan0
04.11.24 | Yeah man it was god-awful.
I has been for a long time, but last night was one of the worst dynamites ever. Absolute disaster.
-Literally the first thing they do is make their badass champion look like a chump before he even gets in the ring.
-Continually shoot the rafters (as a way to avoid showing that the arena is empty) rather than put the camera on their commentators, because Excalibur looks like an idiot and they aren't compelling enough to watch while they speak.
-Showing the footage...idiotic. A can't-win decision. FTR did their best to channel it into something, but there's no saving it.
-Ospreay follows this segment where we're all thinking about a WWE wrestler the week after mania by calling out the guy most responsible for the good will in WWE right now who was just playing the boss and saying that if a wrestler doesn't want to be part of the grind then its really not a great fit.
-Mercedes continues to be featured in speaking segments, where she is so cringe and reminiscent of late-era vince promos that she legitimately has go-away heat with me before ever even getting in the ring.
-Bizarre sequence with unknown japanese girl saving the new company blonde and then kissing her before pouring a glass of wine
-Jay White continually buried
-Cringe, awful Julia Hart spooky video package
I bought Dynasty tickets since it's the PPV we were robbed of back when they decided to move full gear (where hangman won the title) due to UFC being booked the same night. It's almost certainly going to be the last bit of attention I give to this company, which is a shame because I love Joe and FTR and a couple others. I'd sell these tickets if Ticketmaster would let me, but clearly they haven't sold enough. |
AlexKzillion
04.11.24 | its just crazy to me that out of all the dozens and dozens and dozens of guys that tony has signed the last three years... wwe signing cody was more impactful for them than all of them combined. then punk becomes available and they sign him too... already in what seems like what will be the biggest feud of 2024. and then jade becomes available and she's getting the pin at her first wrestlemania and already feels like a bigger deal than she ever felt at aew.
think it really shows how important having a plan for these splash signings is if you want them to really mean anything. feel like aew only did that for punk and maybe bryan and that's it. everyone else has a couple dream matches on dynamite/ppv and then gets lost in the shuffle after like three months. |
AlexKzillion
04.11.24 | lmao gotta love the bucks and ospreay already backtracking through the dirtsheets not even 24 hours later after they saw everyone's negative reactions
"tony made us do it"................ tony has never been able to make anyone do anything ever lmao nobody can believe this shit |
0GuyMan0
04.11.24 | fuck man I'm so glad to see someone with a brain respond to this. I feel like I'm gonna lose my mind on /r/squaredcircle. The AEW sub is even more cancer. That place is basically /r/Conservative if not /r/TheDonald at this point. |
JayEnder
04.11.24 | Khan is cooked. The only time he's ever nutted up is when he fired Punk and that ended up being the final nail in the coffin for AEW. It's not a legitimate business built on making stars and money, it's Khan's dad funded hobby where all he wants is to be chummy with the boys.
Punk said it best on Ariel Helwani's show. Tony is a nice guy, not a boss.
And now that Triple H is in charge over at WWE and is actually making good booking decisions I fear AEW is gonna end up like WCW within the decade. |
bloc
04.11.24 | Crazy how within the same week you could argue WWE is at an all time high and AEW is at an all time low |
0GuyMan0
04.11.24 | He didn't even nut up and fire Punk, he had Danielson do it for him. Which is funny anyways, because Punk said he quit on the spot after the Perry thing lmao. |
AlexKzillion
04.11.24 | i refuse to even look at the aew subreddit, but r/sq seems to be very begrudgingly accepting the fact that their boys done goofed.
still cannot believe how anti-punk that place is still. especially could not believe the way they ran with that rumor that jungle boy slipped out of punk's headlocked and "embarrassed him" or whatever. also the way they've fantasy booked punk into being this fake tough guy who can't actually fight when by pretty much all accounts he beat the living shit out of the bucks. i mean they were off tv for like six months for crying out loud. dude got his ass kicked in the ufc a few times sure but he still did years worth of training to even get there. i just don't understand that place at all... i'm convinced nobody on that sub has ever been in any kind of physical altercation in their life.
really shows how much of a bubble aew and the iwc are in when punk is treated like that on reddit but the fans at the actual show are chanting cm punk's name as he "assaults" jungle boy and makes tony "fear for his life". |
bloc
04.11.24 | I missed the scary part in the footage where Tony was supposed to fear for his life? |
JeetJeet
04.12.24 | lol AEW is a very unserious company. Them showing the Punk/Perry footage is just too hilarious. |
0GuyMan0
04.12.24 | "I missed the scary part in the footage where Tony was supposed to fear for his life?"
He fiercely pointed at him bro, that would be more than enough to feel frightened but he yelled too! |
Storm In A Teacup
04.12.24 | It is nice coming on here and seeing all my opinions already typed out for me. |
Storm In A Teacup
04.12.24 | All ill say is, for all the hope aew gave us when they started, wwe delivered on that hope for wrestling to be better. |
LunaticSoul
04.12.24 | Still, I wouldn't watch 3 hours of raw with a gun to my head lol |
LunaticSoul
04.12.24 | I am not really watching AEW these days either |
AlexKzillion
04.12.24 | "AlexKzillion
09.03.23
[ Edit ] that video must have been pretty egregious/one sided lmaoo... honestly never thought he'd do it"
it was not!!!!!!! |
Storm In A Teacup
04.14.24 | I have a theory ya'll
Rocks gonna turn Roman face and Roman retires Rock at mania and Cody holds belt until WM 42 when Cody has become highlander and Heyman and Roman are redeemed. If true Heyman is probably already filming a promo on his cellphone for it in case he dies. |
0GuyMan0
04.16.24 | Interesting.
Seems like Seth is the true endgame for Roman to me. |
rufinthefury
04.19.24 | oh wow forgot about this thread lol. Yeah the CM Punk stuff was a fucking disaster but guess what? Jungle Boy is actually capitalizing off of it. I was at that NJPW show in Chicago where he wrestled Shota and that motherfucker has insane heat, he's gonna be just fine.
Also I cannot believe I saw Mox beat Naito clean for the IWGP big belt for real. Like what??
Dynasty looks awesome. BD vs Ospreay gonna slap |
rufinthefury
04.19.24 | and yeah Alex the AEW sub is fucking garbage lmao they've totally circled the wagons now. they have Punk PTSD, they swear they're victims being persecuted by the dumb Fed fans and evil bots WWE pays for, they can take 0 criticism about the show. I'll make a neutral levelheaded comment about a situation (IE: AEW is not overhated, it's just finally seen as a fallible company on the same level as WWE or TNA or any other company) and I'll get downvoted to shit only for someone to reply agreeing with me and they'll get upvoted. People know whats up, they just dont wanna admit it lmao |
0GuyMan0
04.19.24 | Mercedes promo this week was probably the most she's capable of, and it still had cringe catchphrases and her weird mannerisms while speaking at the camera. She has probably the dumbest theme in the business right now, but at least she doesn't still have dollar signs sprayed in her hair.
Claudio ospreay delivered, obviously, but just goes to show again that Claudio is one of the best in the ring in the world STILL and he STILL can't get an honest run on his own.
Matt on the mic while getting slammed made me chuckle.
The women's division is a dumpster fire, and has been burning bright for the entire history of the company.
Typical dynamite. |
rufinthefury
04.21.24 | Ospreay vs BD and Swerve's coronation tonight. helluva card |
calmrose
04.22.24 | Ospreay vs Danielson probably the greatest match I've ever seen |
rufinthefury
04.22.24 | Absolutely insane ppv. BD vs Ospreay was god tier |
JayEnder
04.22.24 | The Punk/Perry footage was laughable. I've seen worse "fights" break out in high school. Tony fearing for his life over that really cemented him as a joke.
"I just choked him a lil bit" lmao Punk wasn't lying |
0GuyMan0
04.22.24 | I had three tickets to dynasty and just couldn't be bothered to go. I also could not give them away day of, and was actively attacked in the reddit thread I opened for having the audacity of not wanting to attend lol. I realized I literally don't care about any of the matches, despite how good a couple of them might be, and would rather watch some clips later than drag the girls out on a school night for what would inevitably be a 4 hour+ endeavor without including any opening or dark matches.
Just so disillusioned by this goofy ass company and their absurd ride-or-die mega fans at this point that I'd rather casually follow the threads than actually dedicate any time, money or effort to it anymore. |
rufinthefury
04.23.24 | fam you missed an all timer that sucks lmfaooo |
0GuyMan0
04.23.24 | and yet I feel no sense of loss or regret lol
ospreay is great and danielson may well be the goat, but this match had zero build other than "lets have a good match" just like everything else that they spew out. I literally do not care. I'm glad people dug the show though, they were badly in need of a W - and good on TK for making good on his promise of making it up to us when he moved Full Gear (page beating kenny) from us and replaced it with a rampage. |
rufinthefury
04.23.24 | Thats a lot of words to say "I missed the greatest match ever because of marks online pissing me off"
I pity you I truly do |
0GuyMan0
04.23.24 | why you tryin' to tell me how bad I feel about skipping a wrestling event? I knew the match would be good, I chose not to go. I didn't 'miss' a fuckin thing. I literally do not care, and certainly don't need your pity.
Glad it was meaningful for you and anyone else who saw it, but what a stupid attitude to have. |
bloc
04.23.24 | Guy I'm with you, the fact that it's a school night and you got kids already makes me not wanna go haha |
rufinthefury
04.23.24 | Thus the pity I have. Kids, actual irritation at online comments, and worst of all not being able yo enjoy great wrestling. Sounds rough Guy.
Unrelated, Liv becoming Dom's Step-Mami has a chance to be the funniest storyline ever |
0GuyMan0
04.23.24 | I don't think it's pitiful to be irritated with an annoying fanbase, especially when that fanbase motivates the booking. Shitty fans ruin tons of things that should be a lot more fun were it not for them. As far as great wrestling goes....that's obviously debatable. If I had tickets to Wrestlemania I'd have had the family there to see the culmination of the story and they'd be out of school the next day lol. But, a great display of wrestling with no setup or stakes, especially when we all knew damn well who was going to win, is as enjoyable at home and at my leisure as it would be to endure the other three hours of modern AEW and fans, traffic and weather.
But no heat with me for having an opinion my dude, its all love. I am a bit sad that judgement day appears to be falling apart, and doubly so because of Rhea's injury. It seems she's got to be treated as a face since the fans won't boo her. Damian has the reverse problem, and it feels like they're prepping him for a face chance since Drew is a heel and he'll probably win the title at Clash at the Castle.
I have high hopes for Liv - she has a moveset that no other woman does, for better or worse, but until she can be on camera without looking like she's about to burst into tears I'm tempering my expectations. |
Storm In A Teacup
04.24.24 | Guy made it pretty clear, that they, like many of us, dont care about an epic wrestling match if it didnt have a good storyline setting it up. That has nothing to do with "marks online pissing people off. |
rufinthefury
04.26.24 | I feel like I'm on crazy pills seeing everyone love this EVPs Kill Tony Khan angle lmao I haaaaaated that ending. Seeing him in a neckbrace for the draft was funny though |
LunaticSoul
04.26.24 | I thought it was funny and at least gives me some sort of hope AEW can still do long term storytelling |
Storm In A Teacup
04.26.24 | Uh. What |
bloc
04.26.24 | He took that shot worse than the first time McMahon took a stunner |
0GuyMan0
04.26.24 | it was funny for sure, but idk if that's what they wanted.
bizarre episode front-to-back. |