Divaman
05.31.21 | I'd give the card at least a B+ or an A- as a whole. |
Pheromone
05.31.21 | just as is im happy there were no major embarrassing mistakes in this one |
bloc
05.31.21 | "just as is im happy there were no major embarrassing mistakes in this one"
lol this is actually one of the reasons why I was following this PPV extra closely. I didn't watch, but it looks like it all got pulled off without a hitch. Not sure if I agree with some of the results but whatever. |
Divaman
05.31.21 | Ditto. It was a shame that the whole exploding ring fiasco colored the last PPV in a negative light, so I'm glad this one went off well. |
bloc
05.31.21 | Don't forget the shot of Jericho falling into the crash pads that got heads rolling as well a couple of weeks ago |
Divaman
05.31.21 | I didn't even have as much of a problem with that as I did with the million and one commercials and the bad camera angles through the bars at Blood & Guts. Jericho is fifty plus years old, so even with crash pads, it was still a pretty impressive fall. I didn't want to see them kill the guy. |
BallsToTheWall
06.01.21 | I keep forgetting Sting back. Flashes of late 90’s WCW right there. Hell yeah! |
Divaman
06.01.21 | Yeah. For a 62 year old, he's in amazing shape. A lot of the old timers have been joining AEW lately - Christian Cage (aka Christian) is already wrestling, Paul Wight (The Big Show) has just been announcing, but he might wrestle at some point, and at the PPV, they announced that Mark Henry would be joining AEW as one of the announcers for the new AEW Rampage show. |
BallsToTheWall
06.01.21 | Vince and WWE did Sting dirty af. Glad to see him healthy and getting some W’s. Darby Allin is wild, I really gotta watch AEW more. He’s like a cross of 80’s Sting and The Hardy Boys. |
Divaman
06.01.21 | Yeah, he's a madman. He's like part wrestler and part stuntman. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.16.21 | oh crap baskets i missed this thread |
Divaman
08.17.21 | Maybe I'll make another after the next PPV. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.17.21 | please do |
Divaman
08.17.21 | Continuing a conversation Storm and I had earlier today on the casual convo list, I'm kind of thinking that the next tag team champions might be The Lucha Brothers. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.17.21 | they definitely deserve it. I think Penta is a mega star. I also think his partner is awesome too. However I also think Santana is a big star as well and would love to see Death Triangle vs Santana and the other guy |
Divaman
08.17.21 | Yeah, either the Lucha Brothers or Santana and Ortiz would be worthy champions. |
AlexKzillion
08.17.21 | How did I completely miss this thread way back when lol
That Kenny/Pac/OC triple threat is maybe my favorite match I've seen since coming back to wrestling |
Divaman
08.17.21 | Pac gets lost in the shuffle sometimes, and it's a pity. The guy is a great wrestler. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.17.21 | Yes Death Triangle should hold gold together |
AlexKzillion
08.17.21 | Yeah death triangle is my fave thing going on in AEW. All three are great in the ring, PAC looks like a fucking action figure, Penta + Alex Abrahantes are pure gold together, and Fenix defies gravity on the regular.
Kinda hate how they're booked though. They lose way too often imo for as dominant as they're presented. Feel like they haven't decisively won a feud they've been involved in all year, and I have a bad feeling Pac won't be beating Andrade at the next ppv either |
AlexKzillion
08.17.21 | Also interested to see who it is the bucks defend the titles against at the ppv... feel like all the top teams are either heel (FTR), lost their last big match (Santana/Ortiz), or have successfully defended against already (every death triangle combo). Don't think they will be dropping to Jurassic Express tomorrow.
Feel like it's about to be Punk or Bryan with some other singles star. |
Divaman
08.17.21 | >and I have a bad feeling Pac won't be beating Andrade at the next ppv either
Yeah, me too. They're still in the beginning phase of building Andrade up, I don't think they'll take him down this quickly.
They've even been hinting the possibility of The Lucha Bros. turning on Pac and siding w/Andrade. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.17.21 | Especially after Hangmans wife having a baby changed the booking of Andrade and Omega. Omega was supposed to lose the AAA title to Andrade and Hangman take AEW title but now it is Christian taking tna and supposedly hangman a month later than planned? |
AlexKzillion
08.17.21 | Yeah think they were absolutely planning to put hangman over kenny at the ppv before the baby + punk/bryan signings potentially overshadowing his win. Think they see Hangman as their Cena and want to make him winning the title as big and as perfect a moment as possible. |
Divaman
08.17.21 | I'm not sure. I don't know if it was Hangman's baby that changed the booking. I always assumed that Hangman would beat Omega directly, and that they're just dragging it out to make it more dramatic. |
AlexKzillion
08.18.21 | Yeah but it's frustrating because it takes a lot of the wind out of every other Kenny title defense from now until he finally faces Hangman. The matches will still be great don't get me wrong tho.
It's the one con of AEW actually telling logical stories in wrestling and not giving half the roster a title run throughout any calendar year haha |
Divaman
08.20.21 | So what did you guys think of this week's Dynamite? |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | I popped hard when Sting no-sold the table spot lmao that was awesome |
Divaman
08.20.21 | I liked that match, but on the whole, I'm kind of underwhelmed that AEW seems to suddenly be giving these 2.0 guys a big push. They seem like a couple of goofballs. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | Yeah it's weird. Been with AEW for two weeks and have already had more matches than Malakai Black and Andrade combined. They've already had multiple matches with Darby, Moxley, they even got Stings first TV match in like six years like idk they must have some high up friends there just walking into these matches like that
I really like them though... they're like the ultimate jobbers, like a souped up wingmen |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | I don’t like them they were not good in NXT and just more crowding of the roster |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | The Moxley promo was subpar I thought and he looks 15 years older and out of shape. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | Yeah kinda hard to argue the roster isn't getting overcrowded at this point. Like last dynamite was I think the first time Ethan Page and Scorpio Sky were on tv since the casket match... and this is all before punk and bryan debut. Rampage was much needed but I'm still not sure it'll be enough |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Jericho MJF was great |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Making talent cuts should not be considered an evil thing like they have portrayed lately. Wrestlers can all make money easily still after getting cut. AEW should make a lot of cuts. QT Marshall is a big one. He is too much of a risk with his mouth that he runs.
Cut
QT Marshall
2.0
Hybrid 2
Joey Janela
Kip Sabian
Marko Stunt
Brandon Cutler
Michael Nakazawa
The Acclaimed
Peter Avalon
Shawn Dean
Austin Gunn
Colten Gunn
Luther
|
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Surprisingly I did not cut factory flunkies or any women. Think they all need more screen time/development to even know. Though I would maybe cut Nyla Jax Rose. |
ExhaleTheLight
08.20.21 | Rampage needs to be 2 hours. Make the TNT championship the main one there. Split the roster in half. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | God I fucking hate QT Marshall lmao... hope Big Sh-Paul Wight squashes him in 5 seconds or less
I'd keep The Acclaimed though... they have a lot of potential and think Max Caster has single star potential if he brushes up his sloppy in-ring work (and gets his head out of his ass). Also really like Peter Avalon and the rest of the wingmen.
As for Stunt, Cutler, Nakazawa, I don't mind them in the lackie roles that they're in... just don't want to see them in matches please lmao especially Stunt |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | Though apparently I hear QT is one of the main bookers/backstage guys so I don't think he ever gets cut. Seems to do a good job at that just please never come on my tv again |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | No actually he does a bad job. He lied to Shaquille O’Neal that there would be a crash pad for his table spot and Shaq called him out after saying there was no pad. QT says his response was “I lied, welcome to pro wrestling “ and then right after that QT says “we are lucky he didn’t get hurt or he could have sued the AEW” |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | I do like Peter Avalon and Brandon Cutler I just don’t see what more they can do. There’s literally nothing for nakazawa after this story and he is a backstage hand so maybe he doesn’t need to be cut like I said |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Also QT does not do good promos can’t believe this is a guy getting so much promo time and getting to be a faction leader |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | hahahaha I read about that shaq thing a couple days ago. idk how he was not fired for that. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | And yeah if Ogogo isn't gonna be around anymore I don't see much of a point to the factory. I think that big hairy caveman dude looks like a beast but I've only ever seen like two matches of his. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Ogogo is gone?! |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | I mean prob not GONE gone... but I have no recollection of him being on TV since the Cody match. Can't think they'd be hiding him |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | I heard he went back across the pond but it was never explained besides that |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Oh god this is bringing back the blocked out memories of Politician Cody Rhodes. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | On one of the shows, they referred to Ogogo as having gone back to England to nurse an injury. So I think he's still on the roster. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | QT is very important to them behind the scenes, though. And he really likes to wrestle. Soletting him wrestle is kind of the payoff for all of the training stuff he does for them. (I heard talk about this on the podcast awhile back.) |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | I dont like that there are 3 matches set for rampage. Surely two of them are actually not happening? |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | Okay yeah that makes a lot more sense. Dude looks legit and talks better than half the roster, he should totally be on tv even if he can't really work a match just yet.
And yeah Cody needs to turn heel so bad I can't stand him as a face anymore. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | Some of the guys you suggested cutting are really there because they're close friends of and really are lackeys of the executive VPs. Cutler is a childhood friend of the Bucks who (along with his older brother) used to participate in their backyard wrestling when they were teens. I think Nakazawa is similarly close to Omega. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | I'm OK w/no roster cuts, because don't forget that they actually have two more shows to fill: AEW Dark and AEW Dark: Elevation, both on YouTube. I don't get to watch them all anymore - I haven't seen Dark in probably a month - but I'm glad that they're there. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | Yeah I was super surprised to not see something like "Darby Allin in action" or something on the card. Kinda got me worried that it's gonna be like when Christian debuted and that Punk won't actually do anything but come out and talk for a minute, but like..... they can't just have him do that can they? |
Divaman
08.20.21 | They had Agogo doing commentary work for a match or two on every AEW Dark show for months before he ever made his wrestling debut with them. I was actually kind of surprised that he wrestled as a heel, because he seemed super polite and pleasant as an announcer. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | Ricky Starks is a pisser as a color announcer, though. He's a natural - sassy and very funny. |
AlexKzillion
08.20.21 | They need to use Starks more... everything the dude says or does is always money. I wish Team Taz would just dissolve and Starks could tag with Hobbs or something. The whole Team Taz angle has just been terrible cause they get like 15 seconds every week to progress their story. |
Divaman
08.20.21 | The guy I wish we were seeing wrestle more is Miro. The dude is a monster, and since fighting Lance Archer at the PPV, he hasn't been matched up against anybody I believed had a snowball's chance in hell of beating him. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Starks has that EC3 potential that EC3 never lived up to besides his initial TNA run. The New York show that ended with Bully Ray powerbombing Dixie carter through a table was one of the best overall television shows I have ever seen. I feel fortunate to have seen the magic EC3 and Rockstar Spud created. Absolutely amazing. Starks could also be an Eli Drake as well. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.20.21 | Yeah Miro should be doing everything and is doing barely anything. 🧐 |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | Not long now! |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | I really hope this is more than just an announcement tonight. It's their biggest audience. They have to have a story and a lil action at least |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the card was that he's gonna interrupt/come out directly after the Moxley/Garcia match, hit a couple GTSs, and then drop a pipebomb like promo about how "similar" him and Moxley are and blah blah blah and then Darby and Sting come out like fuck this dude and Punk and Darby have a brawl than Punk comes out on top of.
Except I feel like Punk will def come out as a face in front of the Chicago crowd so fr I have no idea what's gonna happen |
ExhaleTheLight
08.21.21 | CM Punk is back in AEW |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | okay yeah I really over thought that one LMAO^^ |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | best in the world theme and colors and Cult of Personality wow |
Divaman
08.21.21 | I never liked Punk as much as most other people. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | for me he is not a top 20 wrestler but he is a top 20 in intensity and mic skills i think |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | i feel like i care most about this for aew rather than seeing punk. want to see them be highly successful. |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | yeah same I wasn't even watching wrestling anymore when he was at his peak. the more competition the better maybe wwe will get its shit together now. Great time to be a wrestling fan |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | Also, private party is so awesome man. Looked like jungle boy totally came down on his head when they hit that destroyer on him though hope he's alright |
Deez
08.21.21 | I havent watched wresting in ages but been watching some AEW this week and remembered Rampage was on so tuned in at the exact time Punk was already in the ring. Missed that pop and shit. gutted. |
Divaman
08.21.21 | I missed it too. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | I keep praying for Every Time I Die to play an AEW show. If it gonna happen surely it will be at All Out or something? |
ExhaleTheLight
08.21.21 | They might use one of their new songs possibly for a future PPV like full gear considering their album is out by then. |
ExhaleTheLight
08.21.21 | This years All Out exactly showcases my problem with AEW’s booking. The card isn’t complete until a week or 2 before the PPV. Same with happened with Double or Nothing this year. |
Divaman
08.21.21 | It let's them keep up with current developments, etc. It doesn't really bother me too much. |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | Kenny / Christian
Pac / Andrade
Punk / Darby
Bucks/JurExpress or Lucha Bros in a cage
They at least announce the main draws early enough |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | Also seems likely we'll be getting Baker/Statlander and Miro/Kingston too |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | cm punk entrance #1 trending on youtube and cm punk promo #2 trending on youtube and punk trending 1 other places as well |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | then you have a bunch of people tune in for his first match on ppv with a card that can be an amazing match every match could grow the company |
ExhaleTheLight
08.21.21 | I hope the top stars that AEW already had don’t get lost in the shuffle. There’s too many names for them to push with more supposedly coming. Once Danielson debuts they do not need to sign anyone else IMO |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | I agree when it comes to male wrestlers (though I think there is a solid chance they pick up Bray Wyatt too)... they need all the women they can get tbh.
Britt Baker: a top talker in the company, very green in the ring
Shida: one of the best wrestlers in the company, but not a charismatic talker at all
Jade Cargill: looks amazing, literally cannot wrestle
Tay Conti: similar to Shida, a bit worse in the ring but a bit better promo
Bunny: merely fine at everything, don't think there's much upward potential here
Nyla Rose: looks menacing, not a good wrestler, terrible promo, injures everyone
Penelope Ford: very green
Red Velvet: also pretty green still, and a bit small
Statlander and Thunder Rosa are prob the only two that can really carry an angle and be relied upon to put on a good match (Rosa prob more so than Kris). The division could really use some more experience. See a lot of people claim that AEW books the women's division horribly, but I think if they had wwe's or even impact's womens roster they'd be on tv a ton more. |
Divaman
08.21.21 | Thunder Rosa is probably their best overall woman wrestler - she's good in the ring and in her promos as well.
I'd like to see them give a contract and a push to KiLynn King.
Anna Jay should be back at some point from her injury, and she has some potential as well. |
AlexKzillion
08.21.21 | Oh yeah I've heard Anna Jay is pretty good... just never seen her yet since I started watching AEW |
Storm In A Teacup
08.21.21 | She had only started to get good at wrestling when she was injured but she has probably been learning outside of the ring as well.
Tay Conti and Britt Baker have the biggest upsides in the women’s division imo |
ExhaleTheLight
08.22.21 | It’s too bad Kylie Rae and Bea Priestley left , they definitely would’ve had a solid roster in their first year regardless, I feel like it’s starting to come together a bit more, but I remember Tony Khan saying building the women’s division was going to be a longer process |
AlexKzillion
08.22.21 | Watching summer slam rn. All I can say is... AEW is way better at booking highly anticipated returns than WWE is omg |
Divaman
08.22.21 | To be honest, the best thing that ever happened to the AEW Women's Division was that Brandi Rhodes got pregnant and had to concentrate on giving birth and being a mother. Her ideas were mostly terrible. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.22.21 | Lmao yes |
Storm In A Teacup
08.22.21 | She’s also just not a good wrestler. Fav thing she has done so far is playboy lololol |
Divaman
08.22.21 | BUT she's the boss's wife. So all of her bad ideas get carried out, even though she usually just drops them suddenly. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.22.21 | Yeah the stop and start of storylines was really weird. It would be on dynamite one week and not again for 5 weeks. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.22.21 | Isn’t she also an EVP? |
Storm In A Teacup
08.22.21 | Oh yeah she’s the CBO of AEW. |
Divaman
08.22.21 | Maybe. But even that would just be because she's Cody's wife. |
ExhaleTheLight
08.22.21 | So Finn Balor was robbed of a title shot, Cena steals it and loses it. In comes Brock as the next challenger? No wonder why I stopped watching WWE. |
AlexKzillion
08.22.21 | I was lucky enough for my first dynamite to be literally the first one after they found out brandi was pregnant lmao based on everything I've read about her.
I still can't fucking believe they did a gender reveal on dynamite lmao. Shit had more pyro than like..... everybody but Cody's entrance gets. |
Divaman
08.22.21 | I'd like to see more Abadon. They could be doing some fun stories w/her. |
Divaman
08.23.21 | I don't know if any of you ever watch Being the Elite, but it's been horrible since the Bucks turned heel and kicked the Dark Order off of it. The Good Brothers might be the two least funny guys on Earth. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.23.21 | Yeah diva I was shocked and still am that when good brothers joined it devolved immediately. What the fuck is wrong with them to constantly do this kind of sex slash toilet humor? Still try it but wtf man...don’t even want to specifically say what they do on that show nowadays. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.23.21 | Wwe booking at summerslam was awful. Incompetent. |
Divaman
08.23.21 | Yeah, that's pretty much all they've got - jerk-off jokes.
I didn't see summerslam. Probably won't watch wwf again while Vince is still there. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.23.21 | Haven’t seen any myself just read results. It was lol |
AlexKzillion
08.24.21 | Edge/Seth Rollins was a banger... yall didn't miss much else though haha |
AlexKzillion
08.24.21 | Also never watched BTE before but I saw Punk in the thumbnail so I decided to finally try it... didn't really get the appeal lol |
Storm In A Teacup
08.24.21 | It used to be good before AEA. Got bad and then got much worse when Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson arrived. They have devolved faster in terms of quality than any othet wrestler in my 20 years of watching |
Storm In A Teacup
08.24.21 | From what i can tell Sammy Guevara blog on YouTube is now the hot youtube wrestling series and i watched one episode and it was better than any BTE ive seen since Brodie Lee tribute videos. |
Divaman
08.24.21 | Agreed. Sammy's vlog is now much better. |
AlexKzillion
08.26.21 | Last night's dynamite was.... not really all that good? |
Divaman
08.26.21 | I'd give it a just-OK. I actually nodded off on the 6-man tag team between Moxley-Kingston-Allin vs. The Wingmen, but that probably had something to do with me only getting 3 hours sleep.
Mrs. Matt Hardy probably wasn't happy that Orange Cassidy landed high and probably busted her husband's nose. |
AlexKzillion
08.26.21 | Some of my more negative thoughts:
-It is about time for Matt Hardy to wind down his in ring career and become a full time manager.
-I have have absolutely no interest in seeing Jericho wrestle again, let alone wrestle MJF for the 8th time this year.
-The crowd loves Britt Baker too much to be a heel anymore.
-Factory vs Gunn Club match firmly belongs on dark. Why is QT being pinned by Colten Gunn a week before his big ppv match lmao??
-Why is Malakai vs. Brock Anderson the main event? Why is 62yo Arn blocking Malakai's insanely quick finisher? Why is Malakai running from Lee fucking Johnson?? Why is Malakai even wasting his time with any of these guys after squashing Cody? |
Divaman
08.26.21 | All good questions.
On the other hand, some of the spots between Orange Cassidy and Matt Hardy gave me a chuckle, as did Moxley biting JD Drake's face. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.27.21 | okay so i just watched the whole show. not as bad as i expected considering but that ending was fucking awful. no one cares about the factory or nightmare family and ... |
Storm In A Teacup
08.27.21 | anyway, this is a ''documentary'' on the real life MJF/character MJF and the mystery/conspiracy of who he really is. made before/leading up to, the first All Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJGYy1X_6Ok |
Divaman
08.28.21 | I'll have to watch that. At one point, when they were still all in the indies, I found a couple of videos, including one called "My Dinner With Penelope" that featured an angle where Joey Janella and Penelope Ford were a couple (which I think they were in real life at that time), but there was this sexual tension between MJF and Penelope, and MJF was trying to figure out a way to steal Penelope from Janella. |
Divaman
08.28.21 | Rampage was just OK tonight. The first match between The Lucha Bros. and Jurassic Express was pretty good, the other two (Taye Conti vs. The Bunny and Omega and Cutler vs. Cage and Kazarian) were just OK. And four in an announcing booth is definitely at least one too many. |
AlexKzillion
08.28.21 | I want the Lucha Bros to beat the Bucks soooo badly haha |
AlexKzillion
08.28.21 | I laughed my ass off at that spot when Christian hit some move on Omega and Cutler jumps in to break it up like way after Christian hit the move.
With that being said, I gotta think Kenny's reign has gotta be ending soon... or they're at least gonna tone down the goofiness of some of these matches. With Punk and soon Bryan bringing tons of new eyes in I'm not sure how much longer the AEW World Heavyweight Champion should be tagging with Brandon Cutler. |
Divaman
08.28.21 | I think the Luchas have a legitimate chance.
I still think Kenny's not going to lose until they bring Hangman back up to #1 contender. But yeah, I don't know if you want to have Cutler wrestling in matches on Dynamite or Rampage. Or Nokazowa either. |
Divaman
08.31.21 | I think it's time to male an AEW General Conversation list. |
ExhaleTheLight
08.31.21 | Unpopular opinion here but I think Karl Anderson’s sour boy shtick on BTE is fucking hilarious, but especially with Matt corpsing. |