Divaman
08.14.20 | If you ever get the It Follows virus, I think your best strategy is to figure out how long it takes the thing to walk from New York to Australia (or two places of similar distance), then make a home in each place and keep flying back and forth. I've thought way too much about this. |
ReefaJones
08.14.20 | shit list |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | stick evil dead 2013 on here.
shit list [2] |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | also the witch is the biggest snorefest i have ever sat through, the highlight of the film was a drunk old geezer in front of me accepting a call from his mate and telling him "nah the film is pretty shit, the main character is like 13 but she pretty hot though" |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | I was shooketh |
brainmelter
08.14.20 | wait wot |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | yep afraid so i tehn proceeded to shout at him "shut up you drunk cunt" but he basically ignored me, got a few claps tho lmao. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | then* seriously though that film blows. |
Divaman
08.14.20 | Heh. If you thought The Witch was a snorefest, you should see his follow-up film The Lighthouse. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | however i do mean to check out cabin in the woods |
riffariffic7
08.14.20 | 5, 8 and 10 are terrific picks. Apostle and The House That Jack Built were two of my favorite horror movies from 2018. The Devil's Candy, Deathgasm, The Babadook and The Void were pretty damn great too. Take Shelter isn't necessarily a horror movie (it's more of a drama, akin to something like The Babadook), but it's got some genuinely frightening dream sequences throughout and, if you like Michael Shannon, you'll probably love it. |
gryndstone
08.14.20 | Good picks. Oculus was super underrated, love Cabin In The woods. Would put Hereditary on this list |
riffariffic7
08.14.20 | I also agree that Evil Dead (2013) was an excellent horror film. That scene where the blond zombie starts shooting the nail gun at the guys still creeps me the hell out. The (mostly practical) effects are top-tier and I love Jane Levy as the lead. I thought the film was far better than Cabin in the Woods which I feel is extraordinarily overrated (all the control room scenes with Richard Jenkins and Bradley Whitford are easily the best parts of the film). |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.14.20 | yess riffraff - and the rising of the abomination at the end? Chills everytime |
riffariffic7
08.14.20 | That whole blood-soaked finale is just incredible. I think that director, Fede Alvarez, could finally make a good Resident Evil or Silent Hill movie if he had the chance. |
bigweinerdon
08.14.20 | "Heh. If you thought The Witch was a snorefest, you should see his follow-up film The Lighthouse."
I thought The Lighthouse was actually pretty sick. It gets creepy as fuck and intense almost. The vibes in that film stick with you big time too. Solid all around. |
porcupinetheater
08.14.20 | “also the witch is the biggest snorefest i have ever sat through“
Ahh, now the whole “Evil Dead remake is the best in the franchise” thing makes sense |
GuanoBumbershoot
08.14.20 | Pretty solid list man! Love that you have Oculus on here:)
Hereditary easily takes the decade for me. Everything about it did it for me, and its easily top 10 all time for me at this point. Wondering what your thoughts on it are, if you've seen it.
Some other favourites that come to mind: You're Next, Coherence, Scream 4, Haunt, Spring, Trollhunter, and Green Room. |
SteakByrnes
08.14.20 | The Witch is great, I don't like it as much as I used to but it's solid. Nice list broski |
porcupinetheater
08.14.20 | The Eyes of My Mother, I Am the Pretty Thing..., and (fittingly) Under the Skin got under my skin more than just about anything else this decade.
The Witch is a fucking masterpiece, though |
bigweinerdon
08.14.20 | Yeah The Witch is bomb |
Divaman
08.14.20 | Just finally got around to watching Hereditary this week, so I'm still digesting it. It's a strong film. I think the thing that most kept it off this list for me I didn't really like the characters. Not that they weren't well done. I just didn't personally like them enough to care about them all that much. (I admit that I might have felt differently if I hadn't had the film spoiled though. If I'd have seen it fresh with the big surprise scene about 30 mins in, it might have hit more powerfully.) |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | Interesting list. Annihilation is amazing and absolutely be in my top ten |
Joeman82
08.14.20 | The way that cabin in the woods technically explains how pretty much every horror film ever exists is kinda genius not gonna lie |
Trebor.
08.14.20 | very bad list honestly |
Joeman82
08.14.20 | Wait a minute...
Where’s Get Out? |
Divaman
08.14.20 | It got out. Actually the one I realized today that I missed that I really wish I had put on there was the remake of Suspiria. |
CygnusX1
08.14.20 | Autopsy of Jane Doe was pretty good. Really dug the mystery of the girl and how the story played out. Hereditary and the Witch were some of the best horror I've seen. Cabin in the Woods was a fun ride |
Joeman82
08.14.20 | The Suspiria remake was great. If you like crazy artsy horror like that pleeeease check Mandy if you haven’t already. Maybe my personal fav of the decade. |
JasonCarne
08.14.20 | 10, 6, and 4 belong here, 3 and 2 are both great but not really horror at all. Creep, Mandy, Satan's Slaves, Under the Shadow, Get Out, The Void, I Saw the Devil, Stakeland, The Platform, Raw, Spring, VFW, Hell House LLC, Suspiria (best remake I've seen in a while), Odd Thomas, Overlord, Climax, Terrified, Summer of '84, Gonjiam: Haunted Asylum, The Ritual, Super Dark Times, Terrifier, Don't Breathe, The Wailing, Green Room, Hush, Housebound....so many good ones from the last decade. |
Joeman82
08.14.20 | Not gonna lie wasn’t big on Hush as most people. Something about it didn’t click with me I dunno. |
budgie
08.14.20 | i think this is a perfectly respectable top 10 of the decade list. i give it my blessings |
Divaman
08.14.20 | I only caught the end of Mandy. I want to go back and watch it from the beginning. |
Divaman
08.14.20 | Thank you budgie. Your blessings are appreciated. |
budgie
08.14.20 |
1. The Blackcoat's Daughter
2. Banshee Chapter
3. Scream 4
4. Bad Match
5. Trollhunter
6. The Night Sitter
7. Red State
8. What We Become
9. 10 Cloverfield Lane
10. Super Dark Times
that wasn't too hard actually. i guess we have none in common though
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riffariffic7
08.14.20 | 10 Cloverfield Lane was shockingly good. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is so damn fine in that movie too. |
JoeTex
08.14.20 | you're next [2] |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | everything that riff said |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | 1. Green Room
2. Midsommar
3. Mother!
4. the Lighthouse
5. Creep
6. Suspiria
7. Annihilation
8. 10 Cloverfield Lane
9. The Ritual
10. Train to Busan
off the top of my head |
budgie
08.14.20 | interesting list |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.14.20 | I kinda didn't get the hype with green room. It was ok. That's a pretty good list tho minushuman love most of those haven't seen Cloverfield lane tho and also didn't really get train to Busan so much |
budgie
08.14.20 | get on cloverfield lane just for john goodman |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | Green Room hinges on how visceral and real it feels. Love it.
Cloverfield Lane is /almost/ perfect. and yeah I can see someone not digging Busan |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.14.20 | I didn't dislike Busan either just wasn't very memorable for me kind of just seemed like another zombie flick to me |
tectactoe
08.14.20 | Top 10 Horror movies of the 2010s (one per director, and only included if Letterboxd attributes show the "horror" tag):
• mother!
• bone tomahawk
• it comes at night
• unfriended: dark web
• berberian sound studio
• the house that jack built
• the eyes of my mother
• evolution
• darling
• climax
There are several movies I would theoretically consider a "horror" that don't carry the Letterboxd horror tag that would easily make this list. Those include:
• coherence
• enemy
• killing of a sacred deer
• under the skin
• winter's bone |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.14.20 | Skeptical about that unfriended flick there lmao
Also too scared to watch bone tomahawk cuz of dat one scene |
klap
08.14.20 | bone tomahawk was overrated imo |
budgie
08.14.20 | that is a weird fuckin list tectactoe
lauren ashley carter (darling) is amazing though |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | that is a really weird list yeah |
Rolling Girl
08.14.20 | I thought the ending to Jane Doe was kinda meh, the rest of it was solid tho. And kudos to throwing on Oculus
Some of my favorites from this decade not mentioned:
Hereditary (though it seems A24 hasn't made a bad movie yet)
Us
The Taking of Deborah Logan
Gonjiam: Haunted Asylum
Los Tigres no Tienen Miedo
Sinister
Gerald's Game
Cam
Better Watch Out
A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.14.20 | Cam was pretty lol but I love medelaine brewer so it was enjoyable anyway
A girl walks home alone at night is god tier
We meaning to watch the taking of Deborah Logan
Geralds game was a surprisingly decent adaptation of a great book |
budgie
08.14.20 | "(though it seems A24 hasn't made a bad movie yet) "
the monster was pretty average to below-average for me
better watch out is my fav of that list |
Rolling Girl
08.14.20 | Cam and Geralds game were probably better than they deserved to be lol. Still solid tho.
Deborah Logan blew me away. Nothing new conceptually, but they got everything right and its intense as fuck.
Haven't seen the monster yet, it's on my backlog tho. |
Minushuman24
08.14.20 | that one scene from Gerald's Game is probably one of the most effective body horror scenes of all time |
tectactoe
08.14.20 | wait why is my list so weird?
original unfriended sucked but the second one was legitimately great except for one major flaw. it is honestly one of the boldest conceits in a movie since the blair witch protect imo.
also A24 does not make nor produce movies, they are a distribution company and they have PLENTY of shit films their catalog. |
budgie
08.14.20 | your mom is A24 |
neekafat
08.14.20 | 4 is barely a horror film |
budgie
08.14.20 | annihilation is on the list and you say train to busan is barely horror? |
Egarran
08.14.20 | Explain yourself, sir! |
Divaman
08.14.20 | I keep hearing love for Gerald's Game. I haven't seen it, but I thought it was one of King's weakest books. |
Trebor.
08.15.20 | ""(though it seems A24 hasn't made a bad movie yet) ""
check out Never Goin' Back, one of the worst of the decade |
neekafat
08.15.20 | Annihilation is a horror film lol
Train to Busan is formally a drama-thriller |
budgie
08.15.20 | it has zombies eating ppl bro |
neekafat
08.15.20 | so does World War Z but that's an action movie
is Anna and the Apocalypse a horror movie? |
neekafat
08.15.20 | was gonna use Shaun of the Dead as an example but that's more of a horror movie than Train to Busan lol |
encomium
08.15.20 | Hereditary is better than all of these, but a pretty good list nonetheless |
neekafat
08.15.20 | ugh |
budgie
08.15.20 | anna apocalypse is a .5/10 |
neekafat
08.15.20 | my point wasn't that it was good now was it |
budgie
08.15.20 | idk if this can be resolved bc i cant begin to understand the brain stretching required to call train of busan not horror i'm just on a total different plane of existence here |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.15.20 | Neeks just being pedantic to try and flex his film school cred just pretend ur impressed |
bloc
08.15.20 | The Shape of Water is essentially a Disney movie with a lot of nudity |
budgie
08.15.20 | any chance meg myers plays in that |
Divaman
08.15.20 | Most Disney films are horrific. I was terrified of Disney films when I was a kid. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | can confirm
recently revisited the original PINOCCHIO for the first time since my childhood and it is one of the weirdest fucking movies i've ever seen |
Divaman
08.15.20 | Stephen King grew up on Disney and credits it for helping him to grow into the sick bastard that he is. |
budgie
08.15.20 | dude that donkey transformation scene in pinocchio was the psychological genesis for a great deal of horror in my youth
to this day halfhuman-halfanimal things horrify me |
budgie
08.15.20 | there's also like a halfwitch-halfsnake thing in the sword and the stone? that elicited a similar, special, unwelcome genre of terror |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | yes and also Geppetto is one of the saddest and most pathetic characters in all of filmdom, truly morbid stuff for a ""kids"" movie, honestly. |
BlushfulHippocrene
08.15.20 | Mike Flanagan needs to get someone else to write his stuff (the episodes of Hill House he wrote are the worst of the bunch, exc. Two Storms), but I love him all the same. |
budgie
08.15.20 | there's also like a walrus or something that jovially corrals a bunch of clams into a house before fucking eating them idk what movie that was in though, fucking evil shit wtf |
Divaman
08.15.20 | Yeah, I had the same reaction to the pinocchio donkey scene. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | Also, Disney likes to create likable characters and then spend an hour and 55 minutes fucking torturing them before giving you a 5-minute happy ending. They're some sick bastards to do that to little kids. |
budgie
08.15.20 | lmfao |
budgie
08.15.20 | don't even get me started on jasmine in aladdin |
GhandhiLion
08.15.20 | Meet the feebles? I don't remember any Disney walruses lol
Edit: it's alice in wonderland - 'walrus and the carpenter'. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | I remember when my little brother was like 3 years old, and my grandparents put on an old Disney version of The Ugly Duckling. And he was just sobbing his eyes out when the duckling's mother rejected him. Nasty shit. |
BlushfulHippocrene
08.15.20 | I don't even remember watching that movie yet that scene is burned into my brain. |
extract
08.15.20 | A movie that just misses this decade and is a must watch, The Revenant (2009) |
budgie
08.15.20 | i haven't seen it but is that really a horror movie |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | Not really, but it's definitely horrific at times. More like a savage western. Awesome movie for sure. Inarritu is the truth. |
JeetJeet
08.15.20 | The Wailing is a must watch and is at the very least a top 5 horror flick of the 2010s |
budgie
08.15.20 | i didnt finish the wailing |
JeetJeet
08.15.20 | smh cmon bulge |
budgie
08.15.20 | battle of the bulge |
porcupinetheater
08.15.20 | Pretty sure he’s talking about the other Revenant, the zombie Buddy comedy thing |
neekafat
08.15.20 | "Neeks just being pedantic to try and flex his film school cred just pretend ur impressed"
how dare you not validate me dammit |
aydross121
08.15.20 | Not the best decade for horror tbh.
Only ones I think will be considered classics are the obvious Hereditary and The Witch.
The Autopsy of Jane Doe is a fun one indeed. |
budgie
08.15.20 | i think the 2010s is the best decade |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | i'm honestly shocked at the overwhelmingly positive responses to HEREDITARY and MIDSOMMER. they're *fine* i guess but Ari Aster is kind of a hack imo. |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | WhoawhoaWHOA. Those are some harsh words you’re slinging around. How do you figure that he’s a whole hack? |
Egarran
08.15.20 | If you research tec's history you will find lots of those strange verdicts. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | ah, maybe i'm just being too harsh. his heart is in the right place, i think, but both of his films are bungled by his obsession with either unnecessary subtext or the subversion of implied subtext, and when it comes to those things he's not a particularly subtle director.
i think if he made a pure horror film, no holds barred and no strings attached with no implications of subtext (whether real or not), he could create something truly gruesome and fantastic that isn't bogged down with laborious readings. he has an eye for unsettling grotesquerie and i wish he would just indulge that 100% without the nagging desire to create an ""elevated"" horror film. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | 'If you research tec's history you will find lots of those strange verdicts.'
Explain yourself!
Even my worst takes are not without justification, however subjective. |
budgie
08.15.20 | i agree with tec's take on ari aster
there are some (sparse) stand-out horror elements in the films (use of sound in hereditary & the entire car death sequence in midsommar) but the films are so drawn out and bleh, laborious is the perfect description |
Egarran
08.15.20 | What's to explain? You just don't get some movies, and really it's ok. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | I like both of Aster's films, but I don't love them. Both are overlong, and both suffer from unsympathetic characters. Although both also deal with powerful grief, and I think his characters come across as unsympathetic because someone who's going through that kind of grief can very overwhelming to the average person who isn't. |
Gyromania
08.15.20 | "Heh. If you thought The Witch was a snorefest, you should see his follow-up film The Lighthouse."
Worst film opinion of the decade? |
butt.
08.15.20 | Hereditary and Midsommar sorely missing |
bigguytoo9
08.15.20 | The VVitch was HORRIBLE. |
Egarran
08.15.20 | Well that's a first |
butt.
08.15.20 | How does it feel to be that dumb? |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | ah yes, the classic “you just don’t GET it” rhetoric when someone calls a film out ok it’s bullshit. i am curious as to what i apparently don’t get about aster’s strenuous allegories of grief and toxic codependency.
is that really your best retort? 😴😴😴😴 |
Egarran
08.15.20 | Sorry I was just having fun(?) and I thought you were on to me.
Your taste in movies is generally pretty awesome. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | bb i know i’m just flirting back with you 😭 |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | i thought the snoring faces would underline my sarcasm but re-reading my whole message i can see that it does sound very aggressive haha whoops |
Divaman
08.15.20 | "Heh. If you thought The Witch was a snorefest, you should see his follow-up film The Lighthouse."
>Worst film opinion of the decade?
Um, no. Not even close. Thanks for playing, though. |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | I love Aster's movies. I mean overlong is a decent argument but I'm generally pretty patient if I feel like the minutes are used to a specific end. I think the atmosphere in his movies is generally great. They're fun to look at and just experience. Really good sound and cinematography most of the time. The writing is actually awesome, and plain out stupid shit almost never happens. You guys seem a bit anti art school bullshit, but as much as that may not be for others and can get convoluted or misplaced, I'm all for it. I love the fact that the horror aspects of the movies are almost second to the relationships of the characters therein, too. I was an English major in school, so I'm a sucker for symbolism and subtext and all that unnecessary shit.
And I loved VVitch. Saw it in theaters. So atmospheric and menacing. Thick with dread the whole time. The critique of puritanical values and coming of age themes, rolled into a strong period piece. Very appreciable to me. |
Egarran
08.15.20 | Gotcha tec let's do this again in like a year |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | Just saw The Lighthouse maybe a month or two ago. Awesome but so very surreal and weird. Felt a lot like a play. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | And if you have a love of artsy kinds of films, I can understand that. I actually watched it thinking I was going to see a whole different kind of film - I had seen coming attractions for a horror flick called Cold Skin, and thought that was what I was signing up for when I turned on The Lighthouse. It literally put me to sleep. (I doubt that Cold Skin is a classic, but I just wanted some mindless sea-creatures-attacking-a-lighthouse kind of fun.) |
Trebor.
08.15.20 | The Witch and The Lighthouse are 1 and 2 and it's not even close
Blackcoat's Daughter and Under the Skin are probs 3 and 4 |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | i have absolutely no aversion to "art school bullshit," but i think there's more to that term than simply having a good DP and tending to mood over traditional narratives. i simply don't think Aster's superimposition of his art school sensibilities unto ostensible horror films is doing either of those camps (i.e., art school movies or horror films) any real justice; they feel muddled in a weird sort of limbo where Aster wants so badly for them to be artsy, mood-driven thinkpieces, but clips his own wings by adhering too strongly to the notion that subtext will somehow elevate "horror" to "intelligent horror", and he's about as subtle as a blacksmith.
it's a tricky balancing act that i admittedly am harder on than most other genres, because i specifically think art house movies and traditional horror films are diametrically opposed in many ways. an example of a new-age "artsy horror" that i enjoy is IT COMES AT NIGHT, and imo that film works precisely because of how vague Shults is with his subtext - so vague, in fact, that one could argue that there isn't even any subtext at all, and the movie does work well enough as an exercise in foreboding isolation. there's enough material to pose allegorical theories if you want, but he doesn't cram them down your throat. the worst part of MIDSOMMAR, for example, is the egregious twenty minute opening section, in which Aster makes it abundantly, almost offensively clear that the next two hours will be a parable for toxic codependency. further trying to drive those points home with an excess of shock-value gore and grotesquerie doesn't necessarily complement his allegory in any meaningful way. but the images themselves are well structured and sufficiently creepy, which is why i wish he'd just come out and make a straight-up horror film that didn't have such belabored subtext behind it.
i actually like STRANGERS: PREY AT NIGHT better than both of Ari's films. it's not *great*, but it takes a familiar premise (from the original THE STRANGERS with Liv Tyler that sucked ass) and sprinkles in a bunch of "art house flourishes," like the neon-lit pool scene or the slow death while listening to the radio in a truck. but it doesn't strain itself trying to be more than a decorated slasher film, and for that i am grateful.
not every movie needs to have a deeper, obfuscated meaning behind it, horror movies especially. which i why i tend to recede from horror films that carry such thematic weight behind them. the metaphor is almost always too blunt and too distracting from what is expected of the genre, all wile attempting to retain those fundamental genre roots. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | the only real exception (for me) are films whose symbolgy is SO overboard to the point of pure abstraction. THE LIGHTHOUSE is a good example. its function as a metaphor is pushed so aggressively to the forefront that, in a sense, it gets away with the intense and bombast imagery precisely because it doesn't even attempt to shroud itself with ultra-realistic implications. (plus i have a theory of THE LIGHTHOUSE that explains a lot of the strange shit anyway, but that's another story.) comparatively, Aster's subtext is too cumbersome and obvious, but you never get the sense that he's _trying_ to make it obvious. On the contrary, he tries so hard to bake it into his "real world" narrative and that just makes it worse imo. |
Egarran
08.15.20 | Imo the best interpretation of The Lighthouse is strictly Lovecraftian. With a dash of homosexuality. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | And a massive dose of alcoholism. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | That's probably another thing that made me dislike it. I have a very low tolerance for drunks. I grew up around too many of them. |
Divaman
08.15.20 | And I liked Robert Pattinson better when he sparkled. |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | I have a recovered alcoholic dad that terrorized my mom from like my birth to age 7 and then they divorced, so I get ya, Diva. That said, I still know a few drunks. Feel bad for 'em more than anything, so I try to help.
tect, I totally pick up what you're putting down but I personally might not be as distinguishing as you. All these movies we're discussing rn, I love. It Comes at Night, VVitch, The Lighthouse, Hereditary, and Midsommar. Like it all just does it for me. I don't even think subtext has to be picked up on to be effective. And I completely agree that nothing NEEDS subtext to be good and it can definitely muddle things. I just that I don't see that in Aster's work. Do I think all of it is effective? No. Is most of it? Yes. And appreciation for things is so specific and subjective at the end of the day.
As a twenty something having been in bad relationships and being surrounded by friends that have been/are in them, Aster's work in Midsommar rings true to current aspects of my life. Hereditary just struck me as a cool family drama, honestly it kind of fizzled at the end with the seance and how it turned out to be just another demon movie. BUT it did so good with the first 3/4ths that I don't mind. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | hey man, just because i'm a pedant about weird shit like that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it :^) despite the fact that i'm not Aster's biggest fan, i'm still very glad to see budding new filmmakers like him, Eggers, Shults, Mitchell, et al gaining some traction in the limelight. i'll gladly take those films over another goddamn Marvel installment or regurgitated Halloween remake any day. |
budgie
08.15.20 | "the only real exception (for me) are films whose symbolgy is SO overboard to the point of pure abstraction. "
i felt this with uh. Us? and Vivarium? and more recently Relic. i love well done allegory i think that's the peak of horror media but if it isn't done very cautiously and elegantly the thing falls apart for me
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MillionDead
08.15.20 | @tec: Oh yeah, for sure! I'm just loving the discourse, honestly.
I agree that it's exciting to see more measured and thoughtful directors with platforms. And even though I'm a comic fan and they were fun at first, I HATE the Marvel movies now. It's a sad state of the film industry tbh, not that it's ever exactly been good. Like, can we PLEASE do something else??? And yeah I'm so over cash-grab remakes. And fuck every Insidious or Conjuring sequel/spin-off. |
budgie
08.15.20 | anyway i'm glad we can all agree that the blackcoat's daughter is the best film of the decade |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | Oooo, I just watched Blackcoat's Daughter last night. That shit was SICK. Wayyy better than Cam or Don't Be Afraid of the Dark lmao.
Btw, Us was great, but the meaning behind a lot of it was lost on me too. Not even sure Jordan Peele knows. It asked me to suspend my disbelief a little too hard. "So you're saying the government just LEFT a copy of everybody in America under a boardwalk/carnival? HUH?" |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | i still maintain that the best "superhero" movie is Raimi's SPIDER-MAN from 2002, mostly because it was an awkward teenage romance film first and foremost, where the protagonist just happens to acquire nagging superpowers that position him as indebted to saving the world from evil. |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | Haha I can vibe with that angle. I'd still argue that the two best superhero flicks are probably Raimi's Spider-man 2 and Nolan's The Dark Knight, as much of a meme as that flick is by now. |
budgie
08.15.20 | dont be afraid of the dark with katie whatever? ending was pretty creepy |
budgie
08.15.20 | re: Us, if you need a long-ass, awkward-ass monologue exposition to try to explain the film, you've failed imo |
MillionDead
08.15.20 | Katie Holmes, I think. The little pixies/fairies were just not scary to me tbh. I liked it more when it felt like a ghost movie, but when the gremlins came out and stabbed the old dude, it just was just a bit silly to me. It was average, but I fast forwarded through the last 20 mins or so.
And yeah, Us works best if you don't think about it too much. I generally walk away with more questions than answers with that flick, despite being entertained by what's happening on screen. |
Gyromania
08.15.20 | yeah idk saying the witch and the lighthouse are bad or boring is such a baffling statement. those movies have so much mythology to them, such amazing cinematography, sound design, set designs, pacing, atmosphere. such a weird take. they aren't traditional horror though and i guess i can see how someone would be bored or let down by the lack of genre tropes. |
budgie
08.15.20 | i mean the very very ending with the backwards-legs-into-the-furnace, that was sweet
rest of the film was bleh, having seen the original |
Gyromania
08.15.20 | also Us is fucking bad |
budgie
08.15.20 | i could understand someone saying the witch is boring if they dont like drama or period pieces
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MillionDead
08.15.20 | I wouldn't call Us BAD, but definitely a fairly less effective 2nd movie on the back of something as awesome as Get Out lol |
Gyromania
08.15.20 | get out wasn't that great either, but it had its moments |
Rolling Girl
08.15.20 | I honestly thought Us was more enjoyable than Get Out. Obviously Get Out is much more rooted on sociocultural issues, but Us was just a spookier, more exciting movie to me. |
Gyromania
08.15.20 | it was completely illogical and bashes the viewer over the head with symbolism. that one chick acted the part pretty well but i thought the plot was retarded |
butt.
08.15.20 | Any love for The Ritual? |
JeetJeet
08.15.20 | The Ritual is great. One of the only 2 good horror movies I've seen come from Netflix |
Divaman
08.15.20 | I was OK with The Witch, although my daughter thought it was boring. But The Lighthouse was a bridge too far for me. (But again, I wouldn't have chosen to watch it if I didn't mix it up with that other movie.) |
Divaman
08.15.20 | Oh, I saw The Ritual. It was decent. I enjoyed it. |
tectactoe
08.15.20 | thought GET OUT was decent but massively overrated. worked better as a social commentary than an effective horror, and Peele's background as a typically comedic writer is obvious. US was a drastically worse - not only is it a logical mess, but even its "horror" elements are weak, so it impressively fails in both camps where at least GET OUT got one of those things right.
i do commend Peele (as with Aster) for trying something new and different but imo both of those guys need to be more confident in their filmmaking. they both seem to want to cater to art house crowds as well as casual moviegoers (to some extent), and honestly, it is VERY hard to make a film that's capable of satisfying both of those groups. |
alamo
08.15.20 | love it follows |
budgie
08.15.20 | you know whats underrated
watched it like 4 times it's so fun
the belko experiment
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JeetJeet
08.16.20 | It Follows is awesome |
budgie
08.16.20 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neb-yG7Dqsc |
aydross121
08.16.20 | @budgie I have a soft spot for those terrible movies where people are trapped in a place and have to escape. Belko was fun indeed. Recently watched The Platform and while yes, it was dumb and heavy-handed, I also thought it was fun. |
Gyromania
08.16.20 | "worked better as a social commentary"
it works horribly as a social commentary.
it follows is awesome, wasn't super into the ritual. i mean i kind of was, until that scene with the villagers at the end. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | "I liked Pattinson better when he sparkled"
Lmao gtfo |
tectactoe
08.16.20 | 'it works horribly as a social commentary.'
regardless of how you think it works as a social commentary, it still works _better_ as a social commentary than it does as a horror film, which is the only thing i was arguing.
it follows is decent but hardly one of the best horror films of the decade. |
budgie
08.16.20 | if it follows had a strong ending it would have been one of the best horror films of the decade
had so much going for it |
Divaman
08.16.20 | One of the films on my list that no one has mentioned has mentioned is He Never Died. Did anyone see that one? What did you think? |
tectactoe
08.16.20 | the score is pretty great, i'll give it that. very evocation of traditional Carpenter thrillers |
Azazzel
08.16.20 | lot of good picks in here. some greats not posted yet for the Eggers/Aster art crowd include in no particular order: Hagazussa, November, Impetigore, In Fabric, The Wolf House, One Cut of the Dead, Baskin, and The Golden Glove |
tectactoe
08.16.20 | IN FABRIC was great. (didn't include it on my list because i limited it to one per director, and i enjoyed BERBERIAN SOUND STUDIO a bit more.) Peter Strickland is a new and upcoming director to be reckoned with. not a horror film, but THE DUKE OF BURGUNY is one of my absolute favorite movies of the decade. |
MillionDead
08.16.20 | 'it works horribly as a social commentary.' But WHY though??
And It Follows was never all that scary to me but I enjoyed it. |
Azazzel
08.16.20 | @tectactoe hell yeah, wanna be my human toilet?
Surprised nobody picked Color Out of Space or are yall considering that 2020. Loved it to bits for genre fare. Can't wait to see what Richard Stanely does next in his lovecraft trilogy. |
budgie
08.16.20 | fuckin hated that movie, there are 2 more lovecraft stories that he's going to ruin?! |
EyesWideShut
08.16.20 | I thought It Follows was one of the most overrated horror flicks of the decade that cashed in on its 80's nostalgia appeal.. but I digged these, no order:
Kill List
The Void
Berberian Sound Studio
The Witch
Bone Tomahawk
The Lodge
Killer Joe
The Lords of Salem
Green Room
Under The Skin |
budgie
08.16.20 | kill list is fun |
Egarran
08.16.20 | Get Out was fucking great.
Only racists disagree- |
butt.
08.16.20 | Green Room is definitely one of my top 5 of the decade, and though I wouldn’t call it a straight up horror movie, there’s no doubt that it intersects with the genre in multiple ways |
MillionDead
08.16.20 | I'd definitely call Green Room horror! Or like a combo of horror and thriller, but just horror still works. When I recommend it to people, I just call it horror. All of the events in that movie were terrifying if I'm putting myself in the band's shoes. Just cause it didn't have any magic or monsters doesn't exclude it. The racists were the killers, the dogs were kinda like the monsters. Dreadful atmosphere. Plenty of gore. lol Maybe a few dumb decisions from the protags. Still a recent fav, though.
But yeah. I haven't seen it in a minute so I can't recall many specifics, but Get Out addresses race relations on so many levels (fetishization, commodification, white liberal racism, cops, etc), pays homage to classic horror, is really funny/fun, has great film-making techniques in it, etc. Not liking it for whatever reason doesn't make you a racist unless your reasons are racist, but like, it was clearly made by a black dude for black people first and everyone else second. That's not saying every black person will love it either, but most probably do, including me. To say that it works poorly as social commentary is pretty pointedly false, if consensus is worth anything at all. |
Egarran
08.16.20 | How well said, arhd agerd |
Divaman
08.16.20 | Oh please don't go there Egarran. |
Egarran
08.16.20 | Tee hee
(It's true tho) |
Divaman
08.16.20 | No. It's not true. And it's offensive. We're having a pleasant little conversation about horror films here. You get to enjoy whatever you enjoy, but so do other people. |
zaruyache
08.16.20 | Color Out of Space was pretty great yeah. |
Egarran
08.16.20 | OK, point taken diva. I'll be good.
And I should see it again. I remember thinking afterwards I must have missed a ton of hints and details. It's a very clever movie. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | Diva u can spout offensive covid takes but people aren't allowed spout offensive film takes? |
Colton
08.16.20 | oh shit |
BeeRyan
08.16.20 | Don't love the list but I love to see a list without Jordan Peele's 2 abominable movies |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | Get Out was dec but I like the ideas behind peele's commentaries better than his delivery, especially with Us which he ruined tbh |
Gyromania
08.16.20 | his commentaries are fucking stupid, if anything the only thing he does well is some decent cinematography |
Gyromania
08.16.20 | "I'd definitely call Green Room horror!"
idk, horror is a pretty big stretch imo. suspense/thriller is what i'd put it in. ofc an argument can be made that sometimes suspenseful movies can unsettle you more than horror movies can |
Minushuman24
08.16.20 | Get Out is a great film. I actually liked Us more than Get out for a long time. It has certainly waned on me over the year |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | I don't care about Us but I'd love to hear gyro explain how the "get out" commentary is "fuckin stupid" without unveiling a kernel of truth to egarrans comment |
Minushuman24
08.16.20 | lmaooo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | Do tell |
Divaman
08.16.20 | I don't want to beat on Egarran. But he wasn't giving an offensive movie take, he was issuing a judgment on people who didn't agree with his movie take. If you want to relitigate the discussion about the old mask list (from about 3 weeks or a month ago), we can do that one on one. It has nothing to with horror films. |
Colton
08.16.20 | The concept of a deadly, highly infectious disease shutting the whole world down and then being perpetuated long after it could have ended because of people who can’t be bothered to where a piece of fabric on their face is kind of horror movie-esque honestly |
Minushuman24
08.16.20 | true |
Egarran
08.16.20 | You can beat on me, daddy ^^ |
Colton
08.16.20 | Diva’s in my shoutbox now lmaoooo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | Same |
Divaman
08.16.20 | OK, gang, do we want to keep talking about horror films. Or are we done here? |
Divaman
08.16.20 | Well, apparently we're done. See, this is why we can't have nice things. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.16.20 | 2020 got the whole geriatric squad on nuclear meltdown |
SteakByrnes
08.16.20 | Man why'd you close the list |