tombits: Essential Post-hardcore

couldwinarabbit 12.27.09	omg stop making up stupid genre names to make yourself feel smart.
tombits 12.27.09	makes me feel e-e-e-e-elite!
March_Of_Sand 12.27.09	Some really good stuff on here especially 1 and 26.
tombits 12.27.09	Disclaimer: I'm aware this is mostly contemporary stuff, and I am equally aware I didn't put Emery on this list.
AnotherBrick 12.27.09	7 is hardcore??? and looks like ill stay away from this genre as well...heard some of the stuff on here and couldnt stand it...maybe someday
couldwinarabbit 12.27.09	so say I go along with you making up genre names wtf is post-hardcore. I'm assuming it's a mix of hardcorepunk and post rock (post rock is a stupid genre names too). So I'm picturing a mix of bad brains and Sigur Ros that right?
robertsona 12.27.09	no it's the next step after hardcore punk, i guess a more accessible version but he's not making 'post-hardcore' up, wtf that's a pretty heavily used term
tombits 12.28.09	Post-hardcore is a pretty broad umbrella in terms of style. I mean, it spans from super-aggressive Refused to the more experimental, slower mewithoutYou to the mathy-rock goodness of Tera Melos. It generally retains some of the screaming from hardcore, but it's mixed in with a lot more clean singing and a whole lot of progression in terms of the music itself.
couldwinarabbit 12.28.09	Does the music have to be based in Rock music or Punk music?
tombits 12.28.09	Typically speaking, it branches from punk, although you can get weird hybrids like in any genre. As a starting point, pick up At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command. It's considered a super influential classic inside the genre.
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Why has hardly anyone on this site heard of Boysetsfire? Nearly all of their albums would knock over half of these, which are still good by the way.
couldwinarabbit 12.28.09	no I've heard some of these (didn't enjoy them an exuberant amount) so how does it differ from Post-punk?
tombits 12.28.09	Post-punk tends to be a lot less aggressive and lacks the harcore element that post-hardcore retains. I'm not really clear on the history of the two or anything, but i'm pretty sure they were two completely different movements too, with a decade or more between them. Not a huge boysetsfire fan, I usually just go to Refused.
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Have ya heard much of them Tombits?
couldwinarabbit 12.28.09	So a louder angry version of Slint or Joy Division (which makes no sense as post punk cause it came out at the same time, if not before London Calling)
tombits 12.28.09	Just bits and pieces from After the Eulogy. They tend to delve a bit too far into metal for my tastes.
Powerban 12.28.09	No Hopesfall. =(
tombits 12.28.09	Definitely the next band i'll check out!
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Check out Tomorrow Come Today from Boysetsfire then, bit more of a punk vibe to it.
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Punk ROCK vibe lol
tombits 12.28.09	punk-ROCK? omg stop making genres up to make urself feel smart jesus!
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	My bad. Guess listening to all that Post Viking Black Metal didn't help!
Prophet178 12.28.09	Good stuff, listen to Jawbox.
iarescientists 12.28.09	i lol'd
EasternLight 12.28.09	6 is amazing, but i wouldnt call it post-hardcore
ART36 12.28.09	Decent list, but I'd put Coheed & Cambria plus The Sound of Animals Fighting in the prog rock camp.
tombits 12.28.09	such a controversial genre, haha.
ninjuice 12.28.09	ACB are lame and I don't think Coheed could really be called post-hardcore.
tombits 12.28.09	what would you label them as? pop-punk?
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Prog rock, that's a real genre dammit!!
poweroftheweez 12.28.09	11 15 24 26 are win
tombits 12.28.09	really? although their later material was fairly proggy, i think their debut nods towards at the drive-in more than anything.
Dreamsoffew 12.28.09	Eh, to be honest I don't even care. I just know I like it.
IRAI 12.28.09	i second the hopesfall exclusion. 11 is the best on here, next to 1, 8, 14, and 22.
Powerban 12.28.09	Yeah, pretty solid list though. But do check out Hopesfall - The Satelitte Years and the EP before that.
TMobotron 12.28.09	I always agreed that SSTB wasn't proggy but didn't know what it would be considered. I thought it had some post-hardcore elements but not enough to be labeled as post-hardcore, either way its worth mentioning in a list like this. Also TSOAF-Tiger & the Duke was proggy post-hardcore IMO. Great list by the way, the ones I do know were great, and im glad you have quite a few on here i havent heard so I can check some of these out.
Powerban 12.28.09	You could also check out The Coma Recovery for something different from your standard post-hardcore.
tombits 12.28.09	erghhh, i just got back from a party... not fucking sober. but shit yeah, i'll check those two bands out tomorrow somet time, thanks guys.
TheyTookOurJobs 01.04.10	harcore lol
MrGrowingpills 04.25.10	What about Alexisonfire's self-titled? and White Pony?