Mort.: Metalcore for good people v2

TheSpirit 04.20.22	ummmmmm....where's the at the gates-core????
TheSpirit 04.20.22	just kidding, awesome list. there's a lot of early metalcore that's slipped under my radar, i'll have to check some of those beginning entries
JohnnyoftheWell 04.20.22	rec me noisecore or no feature
dbizzles 04.20.22	Lots of stuff on here I've never heard of before. Might go on a mxc journey.
Mort. 04.20.22	i think of noisecore as stuff like today is the day or playing enemy, but really its a pretty nebulous term. looking it up you can get directed to a wikipedia page that lists oxbow, phantomsmasher and the gerogiererere (or whatevs theyre called) as examples of nosiecore artists lol. i remember reading an interview where someone was saying noisecore was just what people used to call stuff like botch and converge back in the day to differentiate it from the heavy but less abrasive stuff like integrity.
Mort. 04.20.22	and yeh theres not at the gates core on here, no killswitch, no parkway, no djent or progcore. its good old fashioned american-melting-pot core
someone 04.20.22	So what are you saying, I can't enjoy this? Wow okay
Mort. 04.20.22	i think your perfect just the way u are so yes
Relinquished 04.20.22	i’m all about 75 and 76 these days 😂
Mort. 04.20.22	that down i go album is in the wrong place i know but i was too far along when i noticed id missed it
ffs 04.20.22	nice list. rediscovered breach recently, cool band
Ecnalzen 04.21.22	Heck yeah, Beecher and Cave In and Harlots and probably pre much everything else on here
kevbogz 04.21.22	that pre-2000s shit hit so different. 2, 10, 14, and 18 👌
Uzumaki 04.21.22	Sheeeeit… here we go again. Just kidding. Fuckin’ banger list, everything I know is a fuckin’ bop. Nice job, Mort..
Emim 04.21.22	You ever listen to Still Breathing, Mort?
SteakByrnes 04.21.22	hell yea let's go dude
someone 04.21.22	Breach kicks ass currently checking 75 and 14, cause they were mentioned in the comments need something from the list that has a strong emotional component and melodic base, can even reach out to other genres
JeetJeet 04.21.22	45 is still undefeated
Uzumaki 04.21.22	@someone, go listen to Casey
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	IT'S BACK! looking at this (now) I definitely have a much higher hit rate on the earlier parts of this list than later on, should fill in the gaps at some point
JohnnyoftheWell 04.21.22	mmyeah now this is bigger it probs is the only mxc list anyone ever needs unfeatured
Mort. 04.21.22	you cant unfeature my old lists then refuse to feature my new ones literally hitler literally litler hitlerally litler
Pikazilla 04.21.22	great list vanna are omegashite though
JokineAugustus 04.21.22	Thanks for reminding me to listen to Breach.
Mort. 04.21.22	no problem and yeah vanna suck but theres like 3 tracks from that lp i have a lot of love for still
Pheromone 04.21.22	feature this
Mort. 04.21.22	its the motherfucking 3 review contrib
JohnnyoftheWell 04.21.22	where is the paramore album
Pheromone 04.21.22	mort i have university to procastinate
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	am I bad people for not having heard all of these? ctrl+f 'Norma Jean' Hmm, the list doesn't answer the important question on my mind. Un-feature.
Mort. 04.21.22	norma jean have like 5 good songs
Pheromone 04.21.22	mort reply to me
JohnnyoftheWell 04.21.22	mort reply to me
Mort. 04.21.22	dont procrastinate do work be active make big thing happen success
Pheromone 04.21.22	was about to check oxbow now doing work ok thanks love
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	'norma jean have like 5 good songs' maybe I knew all along and that's why I've neglected them suck that Pika
SteakByrnes 04.21.22	norma spleen
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	billy norman
Uzumaki 04.21.22	“am I bad people for not having heard all of these?” Yes, yes you are bad people. Shame.
someone 04.21.22	14 and 75 were solid, but too short and too long respectively. gonna check some more stuff later
Senetrix666 04.21.22	56 rules ard
Feather 04.21.22	pumped to see secret band lp2 make the list. such a sleeper
MonumentsOfParalysis 04.21.22	Golden list Mort. I'm interested to hear why you included or excluded certain Zao albums. Also would love to see ETID - Radical tossed on right at the end.
Senetrix666 04.21.22	yashira for 2020
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.21.22	Gotta admit, Johnny Truant and Beecher have withstood the rest of time as far as metalcore goes
Supercoolguy64 04.21.22	2000 was not a good year
kevbogz 04.21.22	wait, yeah wtf? where's skycamefalling and cave in - jupiter?
deathofasalesman 04.21.22	awesome frickin list also weird thing about your lists the dates all have 1s 2s and 4s only some numerology shit goin down here
parksungjoon 04.21.22	converge debut is basically as good as integrity ngl mb same with some zao early stuff not sure
Nikkolae 04.21.22	My brother in allah, how you gonna have 73 and no Himsa?
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	Jupiter isn’t mxc tho bogz
Trebor. 04.21.22	I never thought of joshua fit for battle as metalcore Ace list
Demon of the Fall 04.21.22	downloaded a few of these bad boys Joshua was one of ‘em
kevbogz 04.21.22	hmmm i guess i remembered more heavy riffs scattered in-between the frog rock
Mort. 04.21.22	i dont think of joshua fit for battle as straight up metalcore but theyre pretty damn close as a skramz band lots of bits on that album have the 'dun dun wah wah' so to speak
Mort. 04.21.22	'awesome frickin list also weird thing about your lists the dates all have 1s 2s and 4s only some numerology shit goin down here' if you can figure out what the numbers mean you get a special prize
parksungjoon 04.21.22	feature it regardless
deathofasalesman 04.21.22	no lie you add up the numbers and get 42
Mort. 04.21.22	72 on this list deserves a mention for being a bit of an odd one out. not many albums from that sort of core on here. nearest thing is maybe the ion dissonance and theyre not event hat similiar by this point
MeatSalad 04.21.22	Good list still I should check Johnny Truant mebe. Down I Go seems interesting
Mort. 04.21.22	they are interesting, and they have a new album on the way!
Senetrix666 04.21.22	mort im not seeing yashira in your ratings, have u checked fail to be?
Mort. 04.21.22	am listening now senetrix
Mort. 04.21.22	wow this is very good so far, deffo the sort of core i like. really good drumming. thanks man
Uzumaki 04.21.22	Can’t believe Mort. hadn’t heard of Yashira. Marskid will be sad…
Senetrix666 04.21.22	to be fair it was definitely the sleeper hit of 2020. came out in mid december and everyone had already made their end of year lists
Avagantamos 04.21.22	5 is tech death with grind-length songs
Uzumaki 04.22.22	@senetrix he still had all of 2021…
Emim 04.22.22	Mort I need an answer
Mort. 04.22.22	sorry didnt see your comment na never heard of them tho it looks like not many people have
JohnnyoftheWell 04.22.22	it is pretty dec but not seismic you have been notified mort do u like Cranes
Mort. 04.22.22	ive only heard loved but yeh. a friend put lilies on abruptly years ago to freak me out
JohnnyoftheWell 04.22.22	did u freak
Emim 04.22.22	Give em a listen if it strikes your fancy. They'd fit in with a lot of this.
Storm In A Teacup 04.22.22	Vanna made one or two amazing metalcore albums after like 15 years of bad or average music.
Demon of the Fall 04.22.22	'Can’t believe Mort. hadn’t heard of Yashira. Marskid will be sad…' (2) literally the only time I'll ever out-core Mort, revelling in the moment ngl great album
Mort. 04.22.22	i did freak indeed
cvlts 04.22.22	whoops missed this when it dropped. love the picks here. the fear before selections are sneaky underrated. the johnny truant and architects picks seem a bit arbitrary.
Senetrix666 04.22.22	surprised acme isnt on here. they were converge before converge
Nikkolae 04.24.22	"Can’t believe Mort. hadn’t heard of Yashira. Marskid will be sad…" also no Svalbard and Zapruder, mars punching the air right now
AlexKzillion 04.24.22	goated list
autosacrifice 04.25.22	where's counterparts :(
hesperus 04.25.22	if 44 hadn't been on here i would have come to your house and slapped you silly. but it is, so you're in the clear
Mort. 04.27.22	counterparts are more of a hardcore band in my mind, also not a massive fan of them. never got round to svalbard or zapruder. the fear before selections are sneaky indeed, amazing band that deserves more love. and i like acme i just dont love em.
Sabrutin 04.28.22	Siiiick list, much appreciated
botb 04.28.22	Big sad no Turmoil or when forever comes crashing
Demon of the Fall 04.28.22	I don't remember Svalbard being mxc and Counterparts are not good Zapruder are fun Fear Before > most things
JeetJeet 04.28.22	Mort I feel like you'd really like Trenches, Kehlvin, and Buried Inside.
Demon of the Fall 04.28.22	I need to check Beecher I am a bad Englishman
Mort. 04.28.22	i have heard trenches and like them, havent heard the new one yet tho and its been a while since ive listened to the debut. deffo havent heard them enough to put on this list. Kehlvin have been on my get-to list for ages and Buried Inside i like (just dont love em). in fairness theres a lot of buried inside i havent heard tho
MarsKid 06.29.22	zapruder
Emim 06.29.22	If you want metalcore for bad people check my ratings
MarsKid 06.29.22	I love the Nickleback 5 you got there
SteakByrnes 06.29.22	what is metalcore
MarsKid 06.29.22	Metalcore (or metallic hardcore)[6] is a fusion music genre that combines elements of extreme metal and hardcore punk. As with other styles blending metal and hardcore, such as crust punk and grindcore, metalcore is noted for its use of breakdowns, slow, intense passages conducive to moshing. Other defining instrumental qualities include heavy riffs and stop-start rhythm guitar playing,[7] occasional blast beats, and double bass drumming. Vocalists in the genre typically use thrash or scream vocals. Some later metalcore bands combine this with clean singing, often during the chorus. Death growls and gang vocals are common. 1990s metalcore bands were inspired by hardcore while later metalcore bands were inspired by melodic death metal bands like At the Gates and In Flames. The roots of metalcore are in the 1980s when bands would combine hardcore punk with heavy metal. This included New York hardcore bands like Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, and Killing Time, British hardcore punk bands like the Exploited and Discharge, and American crossover thrash bands like Dirty Rotten Imbeciles and Suicidal Tendencies. The genre emerged in the early 1990s and expanded in the mid–late 1990s. Metalcore bands like Integrity, Earth Crisis, Hatebreed, Converge, Shai Hulud, Vision of Disorder, Merauder, and Disembodied emerged and acquired underground success in the 1990s. In the mid-2000s, metalcore became one of the most popular heavy metal subgenres with the success of bands like Bleeding Through, Avenged Sevenfold, Killswitch Engage, Hatebreed, Atreyu, Shadows Fall, As I Lay Dying, Unearth, Trivium, Bullet for My Valentine, and All That Remains. Metalcore's popularity continued in the 2010s with the success of bands like Asking Alexandria, August Burns Red, and the Devil Wears Prada. Metalcore subgenres like deathcore, easycore and electronicore also emerged in the 2000s decade. Other subgenres of metalcore include mathcore, nu metalcore, melodic metalcore and progressive metalcore.
Emim 06.29.22	You know when I did the research it was surprising that Nickelback actually invented metalcore
MarsKid 06.29.22	LOOK AT THIS GENREEEEEE
Emim 06.29.22	Still never found out what the hell was that on Joey's head
MarsKid 06.29.22	It was a nickel. A real big one.
MarsKid 06.29.22	On the back of his head. The BACK of his head, Emim. A nickel on his back.
Emim 06.29.22	I think it was a quarter. He played high-school football.
MarsKid 06.29.22	This is of course a reference to Minutemen's hit album, Double Nickles on the Back.
Storm In A Teacup 06.29.22	😙😙 😐😒 😏 ahem Nickelback 🙁☹😧
Storm In A Teacup 06.29.22	Throws up from karma 🤮🤮🤮
Storm In A Teacup 06.29.22	And also disgust. 😤😤😤
Mort. 06.29.22	very surprised this was the first time mars had posted 'zapruder' in this thread
MarsKid 06.29.22	"Throws up from karma" sir, u have 3 Lil Wayne 5.0s, u will be escorted to the door.
Mort. 06.29.22	also damn i was supposed to add links and descriptions to this list
MarsKid 06.29.22	It was coming eventually Mortimus, the 'Ruder picks and chooses when it strikes Or I didn't know this list existed, take your pick.
pjquinones747 06.29.22	Needs more Training for Utopia
Get Low 06.29.22	Joshua Fit For Battle < 3
MarsKid 06.29.22	Needs some Hazing Over, agreed
Mort. 06.29.22	i like training for utopias second, more industrial lp, but not their first much.
MarsKid 06.29.22	The lack of Noise Trail Immersion hurts. The lack of AVL hurts. What happened to us bb
Mort. 06.29.22	what the fuck is avl?
Mort. 06.29.22	oh you mean avril lavigne?
MarsKid 06.29.22	No I meant that I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
pizzamachine 06.29.22	God’s work
Mort. 06.29.22	mars busy signal has been remastered!! oh blessed be these times
MarsKid 06.29.22	I CAN FEEL IT IN MY HANDS EVERY TIME I DIAL
Mort. 06.29.22	and its back on spotify with two new tracks!!!! omg
MarsKid 06.29.22	If this is legit I will definitely jam it Gimme a physical release too
Mort. 06.29.22	also bloodlet released new music? (i havent properly delved into their discog just Entheogen but i need to hear more of them!) https://www.decibelmagazine.com/2022/06/15/track-premiere-bloodlet-stealing-fire/?fbclid=IwAR0qEO8wrrhuzhdggCbVQ42irfPE2uVDqlo8Q2ESO-tMyD2b_0xuA_fV1uE
Uzumaki 06.29.22	“LOOK AT THIS GENREEEEEE” EVERY TIME I DO IT MAKES ME LAAAAUUUUUGH
Uzumaki 06.29.22	I mean, wut? Hi.
MarsKid 06.29.22	Is this list UzCore tho
SIMBOLIC 06.29.22	Woah Danza 4 is a mad curveball
Emim 06.29.22	You should still listen to Still Breathing
MarsKid 06.29.22	Surprised Bleak lost its spot here, that album goes unfairly hard.
MarsKid 06.29.22	Damn, you cut Eden Maine too? Mort noooooooo
Uzumaki 06.30.22	@Mars partial Uzucore
Mort. 06.30.22	some of the things that got cut is because im actually not v familiar with them or on relisten i didnt like them as much as i remembered
MarsKid 06.30.22	If you 4.5 To You the First Star, nature will heal.
MarsKid 06.30.22	o you actually 4'd it, this is acceptable
VlacDrac 07.12.22	Great list.
Senetrix666 07.12.22	id put the new Trenches in the 2022 spot
Deez 07.12.22	Dude Bloodlet - the seraphim fall is the shit. New stuff was pretty tight but nothing like the old stuff. I finally got to see them pre lockdown even tho just a support slot to darkest hour but it was so dope List needs Starkweather and some H8000 shit, Arkangel, Kickick ilk too
Mort. 07.12.22	ive never been able to get into starkweather and i honestly haven heard much of the h8000 other than bits of arkangel. my metalcore intake has slowed down massively tho, not so interested in delving any further these days but i deffo will slowly
MarsKid 07.12.22	Gotta make space for at least some modern stuff my guy.
Mort. 07.12.22	mars you are the main metalcore user now anyways, all metalcore discourse falls under your purview.
MarsKid 07.12.22	Sometimes the line between genre loyalty and Stockholm syndrome is very blurry lol Your first version of this list helped me deep-dive good sir, this is a big torch for me to carry.
Uzumaki 07.12.22	Carry that torch, Mars.
SteakByrnes 07.12.22	metalsnore lol
Mort. 07.12.22	you shut your fuckin mouth
SteakByrnes 07.12.22	fear before the always open mouth that says metalsnore!
MarsKid 07.12.22	see you in the pit, loser!!!!1111
Mort. 07.12.22	fear before my spinkicks
Uzumaki 07.12.22	Crowdkillah
TSI3 10.25.22	Hey Mort. just want to say your metalcore for good people list is a god send and introduced me to a bunch of early bands that came before my time listening to this stuff. Also always great to find someone who appreciates the fall of troy and the DTBM I and II. Appreciate your contributions and recs.
Mort. 10.25.22	thanks very much man, glad to have introduced anyone to more of the deeper dives in the genre. im currently working my way through the metalcore of all time charts from here on sputnik, and doing my own rating/ranking of them, so you may want to check out those lists once theyre done in a few months time (or more likely theyll be deleted and ill post a new list with the new rankings and ratings. at the moment those lists are literally just a reproduction of the sput charts with my own ratings underneath each album)
TSI3 10.25.22	Looking forward to the new metalcore list and will definitely be checking it out. Keep up the great work!
Uzumaki 10.26.22	Mort. putting in the good work
asaf 10.26.22	awesome list
Mort. 10.26.22	fuck i really need to add links and shit to this list. will remember to do it tomorrow and thanks guys looking forward to leaving the genre behind for a long while soon tho
outliers 10.26.22	gotta dive into this asap
Mort. 01.21.23	finally added links on this list plus added The Callous Daoboys
MarsKid 01.21.23	Now we just wait for Zapruder...
Mort. 01.21.23	lol i told you id listen to that second album then totally flaked sorry
MarsKid 01.22.23	I thought you were enjoying it too bb, what happened :^(
Mort. 01.22.23	i was ive just got a structured music listening schedule and it doesnt fit into it!!
MarsKid 01.22.23	Sir, it's like 36ish minutes long
AnusNballs 01.22.23	49 is still one of the heaviest records I’ve ever heard.
ReAnimator 02.08.23	List slaps front to back. The more .crrust love the better; one of my favorite pieces of music full stop. I was on the fence about including Humans Remains on my own list because I consider them more of an outre deathgrind band, but you're totally justified here! Need to check out Seeing Means More and Heiress. Good shit!
Uzumaki 02.08.23	If only ReAnimator was around when i did my first 8 -core lists…
Demon of the Fall 02.08.23	Coalesce are one of the slowest growing bands I've ever experienced but I'm actually enjoying them now, like genuinely satisfying shit... about bloody time! bumped Rope the other day giving it parity with FOI, now thinking of giving FOI a raise also (to the heady heights of a 4 - yes, that's heady!)
Mort. 02.08.23	Yeah I wasn’t too blown away by coalesce when I first heard them but now I consider functioning on impatience and Revolution in just listening to be both 10/10s
JohnnyoftheWell 02.08.23	psst mort is a redneck coalesce are anti-antiperspirant truthers
Ryus 02.08.23	coalesce is the shit rednecks are the shit
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Mort. 02.08.23	every time coalesce gets mentioned around johnny he has to chime in with this redneck shit hes basically a racist
JohnnyoftheWell 02.08.23	coalesce is the worst country everyone there shags their cousins and drinks carling
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