TheCharmingMan
08.03.16 | Don't forget about The Killing Joke. The original story deserved so much more than that.
I agree though; if Justice League sucks, then it's really all over for DC films. |
furyroad97
08.03.16 | I'm still gonna see it but it's not looking that good so far. I'm not gonna write the whole thing off yet though, because Wonder Woman's the first one that Geoff Johns is gonna be helping out more with. If he can't help turn a critical hit with that film, then I'd be pretty nervous about the rest of it. |
p4p
08.03.16 | still gonna see it cuz bitchez don't know shit about cinema but at least i'll get a blowjob |
TVC15
08.03.16 | I don't pay attention to stuff like Rotten Tomatoes cos their scores are based off of those of critics and shit like Train Wreck get a high percentage, etc. Also Suicide Squad has an 8.5 on IMDB so far so I still have high hopes |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | Yesterday the score on imdb was 9.4 now it's 8.5.
You see where this is going don't you ?
Also the movie isn't even out yet which means that only advanced screenings have been held which means the biggest fanboys were the first to see it. Not to mention all the 10s' that they will give it just so that the score is high.
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miketunneyiscool123
08.03.16 | @TVC15 The critics were right about B v S though. That movie was shit. |
TVC15
08.03.16 | Shit the score yesterday was a 9.4? Damn that is kinda worrisome... I personally had no problem with B v S in the sense of it being dumb fun and that's really what I'm wanting to get out of Suicide Squad |
RadicalEd
08.03.16 | I'm so done with those comic book films. Since the Nolan batman there haven't been any decent comic book flicks I've seen, aside from deadpool. |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | Civil War was decent though. |
Nazzadan
08.03.16 | I'm sure it's terrible. Not because of what Rotten Tomatoes says but because DC makes their movies from the ground up to be full of trailer shots and monologues that are perfect for a teaser or trailer, then kinda shit the bed on the rest. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | the DCU never had a chance all things considered.
"I personally had no problem with B v S in the sense of it being dumb fun"
me neither, but the movie wasnt dumb fun because it tried to take itself more seriously than a 'dumb fun' action movie. and that 'TAKE US SERIOUSLY' vibe interferes with actually being able to have fun. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | not to mention is was boring as all hell so there was no fun to be had anyways. |
FullOfSounds
08.03.16 | Fuck, really? I never was all too hyped for it but that's a shame. Will Smith in the movie brought my attention |
TVC15
08.03.16 | Damn Ed you didn't enjoy Guadians of the Galaxy? |
FullOfSounds
08.03.16 | There's no reason they're going to stop making DC movies, even if they are bad. They'll always rake in cash from opening weekend. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | the soundtrack for suicide squad was a massive red flag anyways. |
FullOfSounds
08.03.16 | "the soundtrack for suicide squad was a massive red flag anyways."
Pretty much, yeah. Heathens is not bad though |
Snake.
08.03.16 | http://comicbook.com/2016/08/02/dc-fans-create-petition-to-shut-down-rotten-tomatoes/
how to trigger dcu fans |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | knowing a few DCU fans, thats pretty typical. |
FullOfSounds
08.03.16 | Superhero fans in general |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | i wonder if marvel fans would do that if critics accurately rated any of the new movies. |
danielcardoso
08.03.16 | probably lol. |
Brostep
08.03.16 | tbh I can't trust superhero movies since they did my favorite hero dirty already. Hawkeye is so good in the comics and so goddamn boring in the avengers movies |
FullOfSounds
08.03.16 | Probably, there are some people who think that Age of Ultron was perfect |
danielcardoso
08.03.16 | Most superhero movies i find pretty boring in general tbh though, guess i'm still moderately excited to see if i'll enjoy this one a little bit. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | age of ultron is easily bottom 3 super hero movies. absolute garbage. |
adr
08.03.16 | end of the milked shitty superhero movies when |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | Stop talking about imdb like their scores matter at all. Without even looking I'm going to guess and say there are thousands of fake votes for the film which obviously make its score unreliable. |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | I recently re-watched AOU and it wasn't as bad as I remember tbh. |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | Oh look I'm right; +9000 votes and +90% are from people who haven't seen it bc it's not out yet. |
adr
08.03.16 | you can rate some movies on imdb before they're even premiered
basically awful fanboys rating it before seeing it
Also imdb rankings are the worst, Nolan has like 5 movies in the top 50 or something lmao |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | Nolan is a good director though. Some of his movies are awesome.
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LotusFlower
08.03.16 | yeah imdb is 100% unreliable |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | "Nolan is a good director though. Some of his movies are awesome."
but nolan has made 10% of the best movies of all time? |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | 10% doesn't seem as much though. 5 is maybe accurate. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | 5 of 50 movies. of thousands and thousands of movies released over a decade? |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | So he did 3 Batman, Inception, Interstellar? I don't even remember what else he's done but I'm kinda guessing most of those are on the list anyway :3 |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | Interstellar, dark knight, inception, memento, and the prestige are all in the top 50 and then another batman is in the top 100. |
TheTripP
08.03.16 | I love Marvel and DC... and I am one of those people that thoroughly enjoyed BVS as well as bought the Ultimate Edition, my fav reviewer (Jeremy Jahns) wasn't fond of BVS but loved Suicide Squad... so fuck the critics I have high hopes for DC and it's future! |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | im going to trust the critics this time around tbh |
danielcardoso
08.03.16 | "Nolan's Batman films are some of the worst superhero films every made.
BMvSM was way better."
hmm not a chance imo. |
claygurnz
08.03.16 | Watched Civil War last week and thought it wasn't as good as the first two Captain America films. It was basically like another Avengers movie minus Hulk and Thor. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | credit to civil war, the fight scenes in it from the black panther chase to the final battle between cap and iron man were prolly the first time any live action movie from marvel actually figured out how to make cool action scenes. |
RadicalEd
08.03.16 | "Damn Ed you didn't enjoy Guadians of the Galaxy"
trite piece of garbage with ridiculously lame writing. Music was kinda kewl tho. |
bloc
08.03.16 | Ugh I saw the rating this morning and my heart sank. I was hoping this would be the one superhero movie this year to really step it up.
The IMDB rating doesn't impress me though, as the rating is always inflated when the movie first comes out. I remember The Dark Knight had a 9.9 when it first came out, although it didn't drop as much afterwards. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | "Ugh I saw the rating this morning and my heart sank. I was hoping this would be the one superhero movie this year to really step it up."
im surprised the 1000 articles about how dark the movie was and how everyone on set stopped in shock at leto's performance or how actors needed therapists because the movie was SO DARK didnt tip you off this was going to be a disaster. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | or that soundtrack for the film. blegh. |
RadicalEd
08.03.16 | "Nolan's films were poorly acted"
just, objectively wrong. Aside from katie holmes in the first one. Can talk about them being overrated and having plotholes and even discuss them being boring at times, but poorly acted? no. |
RadicalEd
08.03.16 | IMDB, the site where "Battle of the Bastards" has a 9.9. rating, and The Dark Knight (which I do really like) is one of the 5 best movies of all time. I don't think you can asses the quality of a movie by looking at those average ratings. |
bloc
08.03.16 | "im surprised the 1000 articles about how dark the movie was and how everyone on set stopped in shock at leto's performance or how actors needed therapists because the movie was SO DARK didnt tip you off this was going to be a disaster."
Bwahaha I wasn't following the movie at all. These things really happend?? |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | yeah, it was non stop relentless in the first half of this year. it was so obnoxious. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | http://movieweb.com/suicide-squad-movie-crew-joker-jared-leto/
this one was 4 months ago |
danielcardoso
08.03.16 | "im surprised the 1000 articles about how dark the movie was and how everyone on set stopped in shock at leto's performance or how actors needed therapists because the movie was SO DARK didnt tip you off this was going to be a disaster."
lol i had no idea this happened too. |
RadicalEd
08.03.16 | "I know exactly what I'm complaining about. I fucking hate the acting in all Nolan's films. Ledger did a really great performance for TDK but that was just one. Many other I thought were blunders. I mean don't get me started on how awful Bale's Batman is. I don't like Bale in general but that was a new low for him. Not to mention Tom Hardy played his worst role ever as Bane. Liam Neeson was also rather trite.
It's like nobody actually cared about the movies they were acting in because of how terrible they are."
Not Overacting = Bad acting. Alrighty then. |
JeetJeet
08.03.16 | I convinced my date and another couple to see this with me Friday. If this blows I'm gonna be so let down lol. Don't wanna pay over $30 for another flop. I trust this to have some incredible action scenes and that's about it. |
Sevengill
08.03.16 | it's just a star vehicle for Margot Robbie's midriff
was anyone really expecting more? |
Valkoor952
08.03.16 | OvDeath I'm sorry but what you're saying is 100% wrong. |
Snake.
08.03.16 | guardians was seriously overrated |
TheTripP
08.03.16 | Suicide Squad will be good i'm telling yall. Yall are whining about a movie you haven't even seen yet... and you're trusting in critics who already have a pre-conceived notion on DC. |
miketunneyiscool123
08.03.16 | It might be decent, but I'm making sure I go see it with a few buddies of mine and slam down some drinks afterwards to make it that much better. Or before. Whatever's better. either way, I'm still driving so fuck it. |
SandwichBubble
08.03.16 | This movie is being T O S S E D, and I love it. |
adr
08.03.16 | guardians was atleast fun and goofy in a good way
the humour in most superhero movies usually is terrible, guardians did it right
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Sevengill
08.03.16 | the movie's gonna be terrible but it'll be perfect late-night-with-friends fodder in eight months when it's on CineMax. |
Typhoon24
08.03.16 | the trailers did nothing for me
they're all better as cartoons |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | "they're all better as cartoons"
but theyre even ruining the cartoons, killing joke sucked. |
Typhoon24
08.03.16 | that came out?! and it sucked?! :O
I had that comic book since I was a kid :( |
Intothepit
08.03.16 | Why does it not surprise me that Snoxall is just painting this thread with his stupidity? |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | "that came out?! and it sucked?! :O
I had that comic book since I was a kid :("
the last half of the film is pretty solid as it follows the comic almost beat by beat, but the first half of it and a few of the 'artistic' changes they made overall is absolutely abysmal. |
brainmelter
08.03.16 | Rip DC |
Trebor.
08.03.16 | "Also Suicide Squad has an 8.5 on IMDB so far so I still have high hopes"
Anomalisa has a 7.3 and Hail Caesar has a 6.8. IMDB is a fucking joke |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | The extra Batgirl junk was definitely not necessary at all and it added virtually nothing to her character the way they did it. |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | I didn't like Anomalisa :( the animation was fantastic but the story didn't do it for mem |
Sevengill
08.03.16 | The Shawshank Redemption is like, the highest-rated movie on the whole site, isn't it? |
majordevlin
08.03.16 | Well Ben Affleck was a surprisingly good as Batman in BVS so I think we will get more Batman films. For the rest of the DCU we might be saying bye, bye movie wise! |
TheTripP
08.03.16 | Batman will have a trilogy, we still have Wonder Woman, Justice League, The Flash, Aquaman, and Green Lantern movies to go through and that's just stage 1... DCU will be around for awhile. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | "The extra Batgirl junk was definitely not necessary at all and it added virtually nothing to her character the way they did it."
Over 30 minutes of pure filler when this 'movie' couldve just been a 40 minute special. What a waste of time and what an incomprehensible mess.
"Also Suicide Squad has an 8.5 on IMDB so far so I still have high hopes"
No one on that website has seen the movie yet, you can literally rate anything regardless of if it has come out yet or not.
"Anomalisa has a 7.3 and Hail Caesar has a 6.8. IMDB is a fucking joke"
Makes sense, theyre both incredibly unconventional films. |
Trebor.
08.03.16 | Wait, did you guys honestly think a DC movie was actually going to be good? |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | i knew it was going to be bad quickly after it was announced. anyone who is still holding out hope or trying to have expectations is dumb. |
LotusFlower
08.03.16 | my goodness killing joke is terrible. |
Drummerboy123
08.03.16 | The whole DCEU (hate these terms) needs a hard reboot. Man of Steel has been the only "not complete shit" film so far. SS was disappointing to me, BvS was utter garbage and the new JL trailer looks super meh. It's the fucking JL! We should be amped up but it's a feeling of indifference at this point to anything DC related.
Start again, get a different director with some substance and stop rushing movies out the door to compete with Marvel. |
Snide
08.03.16 | Batman vs Superman was alright
Batman vs Superman Extended was great
Killing Joke was boring and tryhard
Suicide Squad is probably Harley Quinn the movie. |
zaruyache
08.03.16 | BvS was a grinding mess whichever way you spin it. Extended edition was a 3 hour grind that was less messy to the point of barely being enjoyable, but still unjustifiably THREE HOURS LONG. |
DanielNightLewis
08.03.16 | The DC movies just seem to be bloated, joyless affairs (haven't seen SS so can't comment on that yet). At least with the Marvel films, even if they're less good you can count on Robert Downey Jr having a blast playing Iron Man or Chris Hemsworth doing a half decent Brian Blessed impression or something else that is dumb but fun. |
RedRightHand
08.03.16 | Fucking lol at dude saying bvs was better than Nolan, cripes, I almost choked over here, sheesh |
TheTripP
08.03.16 | I myself LOVE the Nolan Batman trilogy, as well as BVS... but people are so hard to judge these days |
majordevlin
08.04.16 | Bale's Batman was horrible in the Nolan trilogy. |
zaruyache
08.04.16 | I didn't mind his crappy batvoice. In real life if the guy was able to take gunshots to the chest and string up badguys by their feet, would he really be *that* concerned with sounding cool, or just making his voice a little harder to recognize? In retrospect he probably should've had a voice modulator like Batfleck, but oh well. |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | "In real life if the guy was able to take gunshots to the chest and string up badguys by their feet, would he really be *that* concerned with sounding cool, or just making his voice a little harder to recognize? In retrospect he probably should've had a voice modulator like Batfleck, but oh well."
i hate arguments like this. this is a fictional movie based on a universe where super powered people exist and logic has no meaning. so then why should we try to apply real world logic otherwise unaddressed in the movie to try and justify spotty aspects? just because its a realistic idea, it doesnt make for good cinema. |
TVC15
08.04.16 | Thread is tl;dr but I really don't care what critics and fan(boy)s say and I'll make up my own damn opinion about it lol |
zaruyache
08.04.16 | If the film was meant to abandon logic, tho, wouldn't the illogic of his having a crap voice not be illogical? Suspend your disbelieeeeeeeeeeeeef ooooooOOOoOOoOooOoOOoOooo |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | suspension of disbelief exists for one to accept that someone like batman can even exist in a society similar to our own despite all the BS, illogical baggage attached to it.
suspension of disbelief is not justifying annoying acting quirks by saying "well if this was REAL LIFE it would make sense maybe" |
betray
08.04.16 | star trek beyond has a 84% so what really is your point |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | people dont understand how RT works. |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | DC is and always has been fucking garbage.
They had three good Batman films that made people think things were going to be different. But nah, fucking garbage.
Marvel destroys them on the silver screen in every single way. They should stop beating a dead horse and let their miserable wreck of a 'universe' just die already. |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | theyre ruining animated movies now, DC are dead. |
betray
08.04.16 | what three good batman films are you referring to lol |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | Also I've noticed that new releases tend to have inflated ratings for the first couple days on RT. After that, their score starts to crash. So if the die-hards and early goers are already panning it, it's in for a pretty epic hit. Probably bottom out around 15-20 percent. |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | "what three good batman films are you referring to lol"
The ones that were widely critically acclaimed and massive successes in the box office. The ones where that one actor won an oscar. |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | Don't be obtuse, it isn't flattering |
betray
08.04.16 | oh well they were critically acclaimed and people went to see it so i stand corrected
dark knight rises was a good movie 5/5 |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | Do you have some other metric that you're going off of? |
betray
08.04.16 | come on man |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | you come on |
betray
08.04.16 | i will not |
ZippaThaRippa
08.04.16 | Also also, Marvel pretty much proved that you could make an R-rated superhero movie and still be wildly successful.
They pussied out by not taking Suicide Squad to darker territory |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | good discussion. |
MarsKid
08.04.16 | Quality conversations from the users of sputnikmusic.com |
Intothepit
08.04.16 | Betray loves generic bullshit deathcore, but hates the Nolan trilogy?
Dude, it's hard to sound like a elitist ass when your music taste is utter garbage. |
brainmelter
08.04.16 | yea I thought it was completely wasted potential to not make a movie starring villains rated R. especially after the ridiculous success of deadpool smh |
Parallels
08.04.16 | >end of the milked shitty superhero movies when
Yeah, by Iron Man 3 and the Dark Knight Rises I was burnt out. Captain America's WWII setting was cool and I loved X-Men Days of Future Past + First Class but the 2nd Captain America and the Civil War/Avengers movies and Guardians of the Galaxy were dumb imo and everyone hyped every last one of them as if they were Casablanca in 2016 when it actually was more like Transformers 6: Alien Boogaloo being released 4 times a year. I miss Toby Maguire Spooderman though. |
Valkoor952
08.04.16 | I miss Toby spiderman [2]
Cap 2 was amazing imo. Probably the best marvel movie. |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | toby spiderman sucks |
danielcardoso
08.04.16 | Every spiderman movie is pretty boring tbh, i guess the first one w/ toby was the least offensively boring though. |
LotusFlower
08.04.16 | you got me there, i dont really get why spiderman is so hard to adapt. |
FullOfSounds
08.04.16 | Whaaat, I loved the spiderman movies. Especially the second. The third one is bad though. |
Ocean of Noise
08.04.16 | Toby Spiderman rules. |
bloc
08.04.16 | Is it too hard to ask for Venom and Carnage in one movie |
betray
08.05.16 | intothepit contrived much?
as if my taste in music has anything to do with my taste in movies |
betray
08.05.16 | plus I wasn't even being an elitist
for the record i enjoy the first movie and thought the second was passable |
DoctorDoom
08.05.16 | DC for life. |
bloc
08.05.16 | Isn't Dr. Doom a Marvel character |
Typhoon24
08.05.16 | ^damn |
TheTripP
08.08.16 | Watched Suicide Squad and I myself loved the movie! Go see for yourself! |
Valkoor952
08.08.16 | I did and it was cliched as fuck.
Still better than BVS so I'll give it that.
5.5/10. |
