Necrotica: Anxiety Attacks

Necrotica 06.02.14	:/
AtomicShane 06.02.14	wank
JokineAugustus 06.02.14	Idk. I usually just talk to my close friends about what's on my mind, and usually that helps.
JokineAugustus 06.02.14	Alternately, one could listen to Zao all day m/.
demigod! 06.02.14	mdma
mryrtmrnfoxxxy 06.02.14	self medicate with drugs and alcohol
YoYoMancuso 06.02.14	^ ruin your life [2]
L4titudes 06.02.14	exercise
demigod! 06.02.14	ya tbh exercise
joomisy 06.02.14	for some reason mountain dew helps idk it does for me
demigod! 06.02.14	i used to have really bad anxiety though but since i did mdma with some great friends in a great environments i kinda well haven't but yea drugs are bad stay away theyll ruin yr life!!!
mryrtmrnfoxxxy 06.02.14	stop spamming demi
NordicMindset 06.02.14	how to anxiety attacks work? Never experienced them b4
Trebor. 06.02.14	OK so you get the constant low level stomach type anxiety versus the freak the fuck out anxiety me too I generally get fucking loaded, that really helps Lying down on the floor and breathing deeply helps, so does push ups/sit ups, going for a run Writing down how you feel and what stems the anxiety helps too
demigod! 06.02.14	alcohol is literally the worst means of coping with anxiety. agreed with the rest of what you said though
Judio! 06.02.14	I believe psychiatrists can help with this sort of thing.
Spec 06.02.14	There's pretty much nothing you can do. Just enjoy throwing up and having a heart attack for forty five minutes I know I do.
L4titudes 06.02.14	yeah I get bad anxiety from hangovers
Trebor. 06.02.14	I also have social anxiety which sucks dix
L4titudes 06.02.14	healthy diet helps too
wabbit 06.02.14	they r so much fun tho
duckenstein 06.02.14	Yoga and kratom (legal) have been a big help for me. Breathing exercises also beneficial. Avoid caffeine, alcohol.
Trebor. 06.02.14	http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/01/alcohol.anxiety.risky.health/
demigod! 06.02.14	used to have bad social anxiety idk where it went but im glad it did
wabbit 06.02.14	next time you have one get stoned and listen to neurosis
Mongi123 06.02.14	"There's pretty much nothing you can do." Not true at all. That's the worst thing you could possibly say to anyone in this situation.
Relinquished 06.02.14	12fucking3 wabbit
DikkoZinner 06.02.14	Good song by Tame One
Calc 06.02.14	I'd like an explanation as to how these happen honestly
demigod! 06.02.14	childhood trauma, stress, emotional turmoil are indicators from what I've read / been told by friends in the psychology field
Calc 06.02.14	no more kind of like what about those situations is so overwhelming that someone's brain attacks itself pretty much.
L4titudes 06.02.14	merp
L4titudes 06.02.14	anxiety is when your brain thinks you are in danger pretty much
Mongi123 06.02.14	@Calc The brain is your worst enemy in these situations dude. Speaking from experience, if you feel a tiny bit nervous about god knows what, such as getting chest pains from it, odds are that will happen. You could think you're getting these types of things just by worrying about getting them too much. Then the anxiety escalates to being nervous about shit that has nothing to do with with initially starting the attack in the first place. This is how it works for me at least. And simply not worrying or thinking about the symptoms you get is easier said than done.
GmemberKills 06.02.14	They make certain types of tea and vitamins you can take that really help a ton. Exercise is good too. It mainly Really helps just to try and keep your mind occupied with something, and if you feel at attack coming on try and get some fresh air or take you a nice hot shower. All those things should help a alot. Hopefully things get better
Satellite 06.02.14	i've dealt with pretty severe anxiety attacks in conjunction with clinical depression. it sucks. landed in the er once. ended up on paxil but all it did was make me gain weight and go through horrible withdrawals when i tried quitting several times before finally succeeding. now i combat it with lots of booze, weed and stand-up. telling dick jokes to strangers is amazingly cathartic and cheaper than therapy.
Satellite 06.02.14	heavy drinking is especially helpful because then you know WHY you feel like shit in the morning
demigod! 06.02.14	laughter is the best medicine, for real i used to be really anxious and depressed but since i started treating my adhd with the proper medication it's all pretty much gone out the window so wahey. scares me though. prescriptions...
Satellite 06.02.14	"Avoid caffeine, alcohol." oh fuck off. the advice itt is astoundingly bad.
Trebor. 06.02.14	"no more kind of like what about those situations is so overwhelming that someone's brain attacks itself pretty much." anxiety is basically when your body is stuck in the fight or flight stage and it doesn't know what the fuck to do
duckenstein 06.02.14	Haha nice, there's a proper troll.
Calc 06.02.14	another question, are people genetically predisposed to this happening to them? Or is it a everyone has their own breaking point type thing?
Satellite 06.02.14	my actual attacks happened apropos of fucking nothing. the most severe one struck me while driving home from a baseball game. i still have no idea what triggered the attacks. had a privileged childhood, no trauma, virtually no stress even. depression just sorta happens i think.
Satellite 06.02.14	calling out someone's bad advice with personal perspective constitutes as trolling now?
wabbit 06.02.14	Carl Jung was super fucking helpful at fixing a lot of shit in my head
Satellite 06.02.14	also to all these "drugs and alcohol will only make things worse" ppl: what are you basing that on? i'm fairly certain it's not personal experience so shut the fuck up and go gargle dr phil's scrotum. people deal with things in their own way and you don't have the answer.
evilford 06.02.14	I have chronic anxiety too. look into meditation.
Calc 06.02.14	@satellite that really sounds genetic. I can't imagine very many situations (and the one's I can imagine would only happen in a Game of Thrones novel) where I MIGHT experience an anxiety attack.
evilford 06.02.14	I'm sure this will sound like a broken record to you, but enough sleep, a bit of exercise and a decent diet will go a long way. meditation is underrated as hell too.
wabbit 06.02.14	meditation will eventually eliminate anxiety but you're gonna get way more anxiety than you knew was possible before
Satellite 06.02.14	"I can't imagine very many situations where I MIGHT experience an anxiety attack." not sure what you mean by this. please elaborate. are you saying this as someone who's dealt with them before? i definitely agree that it's genetic to some extent.
Satellite 06.02.14	123 wabbit you have to keep upping the dosage to make it work and quitting is horrible. anyone who's tried that before knows about "the jolts" (not to mention being super irritable and moody). and nobody's even brought up the sexual side effects, which, given the fact that we're on sputnik, isn't surprising. as someone who was on ssri's for 5 years, i wouldn't recommend them. sometimes the side effects are worse than what's being treated.
Satellite 06.02.14	*works
Satellite 06.02.14	whoops thought wabbit said "medication" my point about meds still stands tho
evilford 06.02.14	nice prof pic necro
ConcubinaryCode 06.02.14	I do yoga, breathing exercises, and listen to calming music
Apollo 06.02.14	Had one anxiety attack landed me in hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack. Gave me an attivan and that helped, but benzos are dangerous stuff so I only took a few and never again. Not sure how I would cope with constant attacks...one was enough to scare the shit outta me.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	ok so here's what i know from what i've learned and also experienced: anything you do in response to your anxiety WILL become a weak habit. things like grounding and meditating are fantastic for this. going for a run, breathing exercises (count to 4 breathe in, count to 4 breathe out) other calming, focusing things. drinking, smoking weed, anything else, will most likely numb you for awhile but then will cause you to need them to cope, and you'll be absolute shit at dealing with it on your own. do what you know is right for your body, for the mind and the body are connected. if you treat your body like shit, then it'll run like shit. if you treat your body well, then it'll have an easier time at dealing with either a mental illness or alleviating the symptoms altogether. and by deal i mean ease the symptoms so that it's quite manageable with/without medication
Calc 06.02.14	"not sure what you mean by this. please elaborate. are you saying this as someone who's dealt with them before?" I've never experienced it, never even felt close to experiencing anything close to it. So unless it's genetic I'm completely ignant of this phenomenon, kinda like the way I feel about depression.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	as you can see from the comments, most people who are most likely dealing with it successfully would be the ones who practice healthy habitual stuff. running, breathing exercises, meditation, etc. all healthy things that promote well-being. smoking (nicotine/tobacco,marijuana,etc), drinking, isolation/withdrawl, angry emotional projections (passive aggressiveness, and just plain aggressiveness) or other substances, etc, will increase the amount of debilitating symptoms such as in your case: anxiety
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"the sexual side effects, which, given the fact that we're on sputnik, isn't surprising." lol Satellite
Satellite 06.02.14	exercise and substance abuse aren't mutually exclusive ya dingus "drinking, smoking weed, anything else, will most likely numb you for awhile but then will cause you to need them to cope, and you'll be absolute shit at dealing with it on your own." that's why you don't stop. and if exercise counts as "dealing with it on your own" then why don't drugs/alcohol?
Trebor. 06.02.14	Yeah I really don't want medication, I'm scared to death of pills and shit sexual side effects, fuck that
Satellite 06.02.14	@calc for me personally, the attacks were always very physical (even though "it's all in your head"). my chest would tighten up, my heart rate soared, and my palms would get all clammy. i was also always overcome with a feeling of immense doom (can't remember how many times i told myself "i'm going to die." one time i even wrote a quick goodbye letter to my family because i was that convinced that i was gonna die). what made things much worse is that i'd immediately log onto web.md, check my symptoms and be like "oh fuck i'm having a heart attack!" i'm assuming the other ppl in this thread who ended up going to the hospital felt similarly.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"that's why you don't stop. and if exercise counts as "dealing with it on your own" then why don't drugs/alcohol?" do i really have to explain why substances aren't good for your brain in terms of handling anxiety? that's all i did for the past 4 years and trust me on this, it isn't what your body needs to deal with anxiety or depression. it may for a while work great (why else did i, for 4 years?), but you will eventually need to either up the dosage, and/or frequency depending on severity of symptoms, and it will also start to add up in terms of physical costs (smoking ANYTHING isn't good for your lungs and that's not disputable) and financial costs.
Trebor. 06.02.14	So you're saying I shouldn't be getting drunk and or high every night?
demigod! 06.02.14	medications can be extremely helpful if theyre prescribed for ailments you actually have, and are used correctly. i know this from experience. just gotta figure if its worth the side effects i guess
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	exactly. and if you have anxiety every night and that's how you've been dealing with it for the longest time... you can see how a habit can develop. the same goes for benzos, if you have an attack and then pop an ativan or whatever you're using, you'll have to keep increasing the dosage as tolerance builds up. not sure if you were sarcastic or not but whatever i find mental health to be extremely important and is not widely taught in grade schools, technical schools, or even colleges/universities (depending on the field, obviously med students will learn, etc.)
Trebor. 06.02.14	Nah I don't do it strictly because of anxiety every time
Satellite 06.02.14	"that's all i did for the past 4 years" lol 4 years. you stopped drilling before hitting paydirt my friend.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	what, medication? that's good. unless absolutely necessary i would avoid medication at all costs. as for booze/weed it's not a big deal in moderation in a positive setting. just don't use it as a coping method and you're good. basically anyway.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"lol 4 years. you stopped drilling before hitting paydirt my friend." do you mean to say before i drained my bank account on dope, booze, and shit food? yes i did get out early lol. still have my savings intact (mostly)
Trebor. 06.02.14	I haven't done drugs in like 3 days I think I'm going for a new record
Spec 06.02.14	I only get it like once or twice a month now. Used to be every morning. Cipralex helped a lot.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"Cipralex helped a lot." fuck that shit, gave me a few anxiety attacks till i was weened off. never again pls oh pls. glad it works for you, though.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"I haven't done drugs in like 3 days I think I'm going for a new record" that's good dude. maybe take a week off and then use it as a reward and time to reflect, or time to relax with buddies. drugs and booze can be awesome if used right, IMO anyway
wacknizzle 06.02.14	A few minutes of yoga and meditation helps me, and I've seriously been through a fucking lot of shit. It's getting better though, I wish the same for you. Oh yeah, smoking bud helps alot too
Sleaper 06.02.14	i had some bad anxiety attacks last year, especially in the summer, as i sweat like a german in a sauna. however, cigarettes really help. having something in your hand, and an excuse to get outside relieves so much stress and paranoia.
Trebor. 06.02.14	"however, cigarettes really help." lol what the fuck that's like the worst thing you can do besides pounding energy drinks
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	i haven't read any of the comments but i've had anxiety disorder my whole life and medicine has never worked for me. working out and finding ways to distract yourself when in a negative thought cycle (such as music, or anything that's mentally engaging) are the only two things that work for me. mine is weird and comes in phases though so medicine may actually work for you. if you ever need anything hit my sb
Satellite 06.02.14	avoiding fun things like drugs n booze isn't going to stop you from dying when this shit is over
wacknizzle 06.02.14	Agreed Trebor, cigarettes make it even worse, you start relying on chain smoking to relieve stress, not good
Satellite 06.02.14	what meds were you prescribed mixtape? also hi. long time no see.
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	and over the course of my life i have been prescribed Focalin, Zoloft, Buspar, Xanax, and Trazadone (for sleep). none of them ever had long term effects
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	hi satellite, i posted my meds before you asked me to but good to see you in a thread i'm in for once
Satellite 06.02.14	shit, that's a lot. i only took paxil. vaguely remember than now oops
Satellite 06.02.14	*that
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	intergasting. ive used trazadone, prozac, serquel, pristic, and ciprolex. EDIT: and ativan although i avoided it like the plague i needed a few once.
wacknizzle 06.02.14	Cymbalta and Wellbutrin have been helping me too. They just help boost your serotonin, it takes a about a month but you feel alot better after that.
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	trazadone is the only one i would recommend to anyone bc that's the best fuckin sleep you will ever have
Trebor. 06.02.14	I need to go to a fucking doctor/psychiatrist
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"trazadone is the only one i would recommend to anyone bc that's the best fuckin sleep you will ever have" amen to that.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"I need to go to a fucking doctor/psychiatrist" that should be a priority if you're struggling. no need to have to handle it alone. you can msg me if you have any questions btw.
Trebor. 06.02.14	for sure man, thanks for the support
intotheshit 06.02.14	My anxiety attacks are due to repeated viewings of the Exorcist when I was 5. Now all I need is a priest and I'm fine. He used to bring a bottle of wine with him until I was about 15, but he stopped. I don't know why. It coincided with the pain in my rear end subsiding....wait a minute!
Satellite 06.02.14	i've taken ambien here and there and HOLY FUCK do i understand why ppl get hooked on that shit i normally just take melatonin vitamins for a sleep aid
Sleaper 06.02.14	I know a bunch of my economics and finance majoring mates dump loads of adderal and riddelin to relieve anxiety, havent tried for myself tho
wacknizzle 06.02.14	Yeah, Trebor. I've been doing alot better myself with a good therapist and doctor for serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	i haven't had a super bad panic attack in 3 and a half years, coincidentally right around the time i started smoking weed. i'm not gonna say weed cures anxiety though because i honestly think it's a coincidence. now i just have fits where i'm waaaay more anxious than usual or i'll be depressed for months and the anxiety just kind of fuels it. i would adore knowing how to overcome it for good but i just don't feel as if i'm wired to, sometimes
intotheshit 06.02.14	Taking adderall to relieve anxiety?! What do they take to sleep?! Meth?!?!
loveisamixtape 06.02.14	i fucking haaaaaaaate adderall. it was the cause of one of my worst panic attacks ever
Sleaper 06.02.14	when im amongst a tonne of people in an uncomfortable setting, i get horrible anxiety attacks, like dizziness and shit. i guess its simple, avoid shitty concerts.
Trophycase 06.02.14	Breathing. Smoke weed and go around people and you will notice all your nervous tendencies and be able to deal with them. Meditate. Exercise. Stop judging/feeling like you're being judged because in the end it's stupid.
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	a good therapist goes a long way. fuck that stupid stigma about getting mental health. a shit ton of people get physically sick all the time, same goes for mental health. sometimes it's nice just having someone to talk to that you know is professionally trained to help you deal with it in a constructive way
Necrotica 06.02.14	Holy crazy amount of comments, Batman! Don't worry guys, I'm a bit better now. I know the source of the anxiety, so I know what I should either confront or let go. Thanks for the tips btw. I think I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and play some guitar
DatBeefPudding 06.02.14	"I know the source of the anxiety, so I know what I should either confront or let go." mad props for this. deal with your shit in the best way for you. take care of yourself :) enjoy the guitar/dope sesh
Necrotica 06.02.14	Thanks. I've really been enjoying the new Black Label Society album, so I think I'll play to that
gryndstone 06.02.14	I recently had a major anxiety attack that I alleviated with Merzbow of all things. But barring that stupid bullshit, when I have an anxiety attack I just stop, breathe, try to figure out why I'm having the anxiety attack, and leave the area if I can. It gives me time to think about why I was anxious in the situation
DatBeefPudding 06.03.14	sounds like a healthy way of dealing with your anxiety to me, nice job dude.
Muisc4Life26 06.03.14	Yea man, i've been suffering from anxiety attacks, pretty much my whole life. My best advice would be too make sure to deep breaths, exercise, eat right and always think with a positive attitude, but you should go to the doctors.. if these attacks keep happening, he or she might subscribe some meds for you. If you need anyone to talk to you, i'm always available man.
DatBeefPudding 06.03.14	good ol' sputty, one big happy family
Kman418 06.03.14	blast really fast and energetic and catchy music very very loudly and flail around your bedroom/go for a walk. take a long shower after i have dealt with this shit for a year and a half it is foolproof i would recommend bomb the music industry - album minus band
R6Rider 06.03.14	Are you consuming lots of caffeine? I used to get bad panic attacks which were a cause of caffeine consumption.
Winesburgohio 06.03.14	dude been there (with the vomitting nausea thing too) and seek medical help before it gets worse seriously there is no shame whatsoever if you're looking for quick fixes try and get your hands of some valium or lorazapam - i never took them while i went thru my episode but knowing they were there was a tremendous comfort and alleviated the anxiety if i clenched them in my fists and find 'safe spaces' like showers, your room etc. and 'safe people' good luck dude 4 reals hope you're well
DatBeefPudding 06.03.14	lorazapam is terrible for you, same with valium. dont turn to quick fixes, best get into the habit of doing something that promotes mind/body well-being
LambsBread 06.03.14	Short Term: Take 5-10 slow deep breaths. Long Term: Yoga
GuanoBumbershoot 06.04.14	Had my first panic attack when I was really high. The subsequent three months was a blur of heart disease paranoia, barely leaving the house, and becoming generally anxious about a bevy of other pointless shit. Even quit smoking, herb and drinking coffee for about a month. Haven't really had that many panic attacks since that period, but developed depression/anxiety that took me years to figure out/control. The best thing to do is exercise and use biofeedback with irrational thoughts. Try to stay away from "medicine", because it's all shit unless you're severely ill.
Deckard 06.04.14	Engaging another part of the brain worked for me. Start describing something within sight, curtains, trees or whatever, and do it in minute detail. Focus on that as much as possible and don't try to make the attack itself go away. Sounds like nonsense but it works. Got the advice from the mental health team in my town. Prevention is also a very good idea, and has given me the all clear for some time now. I got shoehorned into a mindfulness class, expected nothing, turned out to be awesome.
Wizard 06.15.14	Breathing deep in through your mouth and out through your nose always helped me when I was put in the pressure cooker.
baldymort 06.15.14	See a psychologist. I used to get a really upset stomach and terrible anxiety in almost any social situation. Was really fucking up my life. Could not believe what a few sessions with a therapist did for me. Definitely give it a go if it persists. Otherwise, just try and surround yourself with people you genuinely feel comfortable with and and don't feel pressured to do things you're not comfortable doing.
Apollo 06.20.14	trazadone is amazing for sleep
Necrotica 07.09.14	The anxiety has been dying down these days :]
ButteryBiscuitBass 07.09.14	Good lad. If they come back just utter these words to yourself - it will pass, it always has and it always will.
evilford 07.09.14	good to hear bro