Devastator
07.29.13 | List is my summer digs.
Discuss |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | Bioshock kicked ass, I loved it so much but I haven't played last of us yet. I'm buying it in a few days. |
climactic
07.29.13 | last of us is better by a small margin, both are amazing |
Vakarian12
07.29.13 | Infinite. |
theacademy
07.29.13 | obviously the last of us you dumb fucking idiot. |
climactic
07.29.13 | you realize you're in an extremely small minority saying that right flutter |
MO
07.29.13 | bioshock because multiplatform |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Bioshock is zzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | Justify your claim |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | The gameplay is tuned to perfection. Combat is fun but also oppressive, stifling. It perfectly matches the tone of the game. You feel every brick you throw, every rifle blast that tears off the man's head. It is relatively nothing special to connect with a character through cutscenes... it is very special to connect with them in combat, to feel every bit like a wild animal after a good fight as the grim protagonist Joel must feel when he takes a life. Last of Us does it though. God have mercy, it does it.
The story.... let's put it this way: Ken Levine has not stopped crying since June 14th, because Bioshock Infinite just lost every single "Best Narrative of 2013" award that he thought was in the bag.
Music is dripping with feels. Don't be surprised if the soundtrack, coupled with quite possibly some of the best voice acting in a game, brings a tear to your eye.
This game is criminally good. The whole zombie thing is quickly getting unbearable and you almost DON'T want to love this game because of that, but you will succumb... and shame on you if you let zombie fatigue keep you from playing this.
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climactic
07.29.13 | it wasnt the most original storyline but i think they accomplished what they were going for extremely well. i loved it 4.5/5
bioshock on the otherhand WAS a super original story with some minor gameplay flaws but i also loved it 4/5 |
JazzHands333
07.29.13 | ^^^^ Fucking truth, Flutter.
If I had to pick one, it'd be Infinite because it's an actual game and not just some sort of Oscar-bait posing as a game. |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | You're really fucking passionate about hating things dude |
MosesMalone
07.29.13 | How can you dig 6 if it hasn't even leaked? |
Devastator
07.29.13 | I'm digging the song they released. |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | implying bioshock isn't garbage |
climactic
07.29.13 | garbage lol |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | i hope you didn't buy the game. sounds like it gave you colon cancer |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | take a mediocre shooter, has environment that looks all the same but add a ridiculous shock value twist ending and suddenly it is a masterpiece! |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | GOTY - Last of Us |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | "both are hardly even that fucking good"
What the fuck is a good game for you then? |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | gothic 2 is what a real masterpiece looks like |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | How did they fail? It's a masterpiece from my eyes so I'm curious. |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us
you are def in the minority lol |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | your argument for last of us doesn't really make sense, at least to me. You don't like the game because the gameplay doesn't drive the plot? Yes it does, they are travelling and trying to get to places and the game shows how they get there.
Cutscenes would be an amazing movie, the character development is so good like breaking bad tier good. |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Gothic 2 sucked my ass
Gay combat 2 the max |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | sorry the game didn't hold your hand sweetcloset |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | It held my flaccid penis |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | last of us is a better movie than a game yea |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | plenty of weight to it when played on survivor. barely any supplies and no listen mode. you can play it many ways. you can rambo through it or stealth through it. up to you, but hey you don't like the game. i get it |
Veldin
07.29.13 | Played and beat both, and I'd say their both 10/10, but The Last Of Us is better. TLoU isn't about the plot, it's all about character interaction and growth. While there were a few inconsistencies and immersion-breaking moments (ellie walking in front of enemies who don't see her), I always had the feeling of being a survivor in a near-hopeless universe (and I almost cried...twice). While the last 30 minutes of Infinite was spectacular, I feel like the game relied too heavily on the end and thus the beginning and middle don't really hold up. Plus, Infinite wasn't that spectacular of a FPS, at least compared to it's predecessor IMO. |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Flutter dont even lie you had tears dripping onto your boner the whole game |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | @Fluttertrank I get what you're saying about the one man killing machine part but think about it this way: the world they live in, that is surviving, it's the norm. You kill to survive. So if every single death held you back then how to the hell could you go on. In Dead Space it made sense that Issac went insane cause he basically had to slaughter incident people that were forceful turned against their will. But with Joel, he's been through it all. Killing is just natural to him. I guess any argument is valid to not liking a game, but I just don't you're think about the context of Joel and Ellie's situation. |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | they also refer throughout the last of us that Joel used to be a bandit and had to kill to survive, he spent years dealing with it and learning how to be an elite fighter. In the world they live in it is kill to survive and he spent 20 years learning and coping with it before the game so no I don't expect him to be a little bitch over killing a few bandits. |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | "yes isaac is basically a one man killing machine but at least in dead space it starts to make isaac fucking insane. he fucking gone crazy from the killing and death."
the main focus of TLOU is the relationship between ellie and joel. if you didn't notice that then the experience was probably lost on you. i think that speaks to great game design that you can play it any way you want. if basically dying when a clicker (no shiv) or bloater catches you doesn't add "weight" to the game, then i don't know what does
i don't quite understand many of your arguments, so I'll just say i disagree |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | what the heck is super serious gameplay supposed to be like? |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Plz maek sence flutter |
theacademy
07.29.13 | diluted multiplat bullshit < the last of us
grow up you fucking assholes if it's on an xbox and you have to use that retarded controller and stare at that dreadful ring and you never hear the trophy ding then YOUR GAMING EXPERIENCE IS INHERENTLY FUCKING INFERIOR
grow up |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | THEACADEMY SCORES |
theacademy
07.29.13 | i literally don't have the energy to keep reporting all your comments |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | @flutter: so basically you have a narrow definition of what a video game should and shouldn't be and as a result you pull yourself a good ol' "no true scottsman" tale because you can't really justify why it is bad |
theacademy
07.29.13 | i made a mixtape for my gf of the psn trophy ding and i got so many blow js
literlaly like 25 to 30 blows each |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | damn im straight fukkin jelly wish i had sum hot beesh |
theacademy
07.29.13 | beeshes love dings what can i say |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | there are definitely other games in the running for goty, but bioshock infinite is currently mine |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | agree with everything dunpeal said itt |
Atari
07.29.13 | Hard choice. Both are great for different reasons |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | i understand now, and yea its kind of true |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | the gameplay is sooooo fun what ru sayin |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | ugh fluttertrank. why do people still reject mixing mediums. games don't need to be all about gameplay |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | it does all the elements perfectly it is a masterpiece get with it |
theacademy
07.29.13 | criteria 4 games:
1. can i plat it? (ps3 games r yes by default but this is a good filter mechanism)
2. r there good cutscene?
3. not really into fps |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | you're complete dog shit
it isn't there to just for the sake of it, it's there to keep you feeling immersed, otherwise you would just be watching a movie. fuck
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theacademy
07.29.13 | their* |
theacademy
07.29.13 | no wait, you were correct. there** |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | lol acad :P what happened their? |
theacademy
07.29.13 | there*
confirmed it with my mom this is correct |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | look fluttertrank, you're pretty much the bane of my existence and a parasite in this thread. gtfo or stfu |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | what did i just say? |
Devastator
07.29.13 | I love Flutter. He is welcome to voice his own opinion. |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | @Fluttertrank Complete dog shit? So because it's like a movie that makes it bad? And when we say the game is a masterpiece that doesn't mean it's perfect. Nothing is perfect. Not even half life 2. Yea the melee can be a little clunky but I think you missed the point of this game. It takes itself too seriously? Look at the situation they're in. It's fuckin hell. It's a serious game. There's not a lot of call for comic relief and I still felt that Joel and ellie's dysfunctional relationship was quite funny at times. |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Ellie made the funnies |
MO
07.29.13 | this thread reminds me why the new generation of gamers are way overprivileged and can't just appreciate great games.
they have to dissect everything to the smallest micron.
ugh |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | "Last of Us tries to be a movie like experience but in a game. it fails cause the gameplay just gets you to one cutscene to the other. the gameplay is your everyday shoot shit survival game. thats it. in a game like max payne, dead space 1-2, half-life it does the serious style of game and does it so much better. why did the last of us try to be like a movie game. if you take out the cutscenes in last of us, tell me would you still like it as much? hmm. in half-life/dead space/max payne if you take out any of the parts that the player cant be controlled its still the same great game. cause they knew they were making a game, not a fucking movie. like i said, the gameplay in last of us has no weight and it does not matter at all. its doesnt change the characters or do anything with the story. the cutscenes do. so why even have the fucking gameplay then!!! like i said for dead space. the gameplay is how you look at the world, see the characters develop, and see the story."
even though you've struggled to make any sense, I understand you don't like this game because it doesn't play the way a "game" is supposed to play as you see it. that's fine
the only thing is TLOU is not meant to played as simply any other "game" and you don't appreciate that. fair enough.
this game is, for the most part, trying to convey emotion through a mix of gameplay and storytelling in a way that few, if any, games have done before
this is a groundbreaking game, whether you choose to believe it or not, that is why people are calling it a masterpiece. not because it's AAA and not because it's naughty dog. it's just that DAMN good
you might be aware of a little game called Heavy Rain, an unconventional title that is trying to convey emotion through immersive gameplay. granted, it got mixed reviews, but for those with an open mind it was generally well received.
TLOU is another big step for games being taken seriously as vehicles for telling realist and compelling stories with adult themes |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | lol so quick time events> BOOM BANG SHOOT FIST FIGHT THROUGH BRICK |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Ok I see the problem. Clearly you don't like third person shooters or shooters in general. That's what it really sounds like to me. |
theacademy
07.29.13 | heavy rain is so good
the best thing about it (or maybe not the best but def top 10) is that none of my asshole douchebag xbox owning friends got to play it. fuck those guys! |
ZombicidalMan
07.29.13 | I didn't play the Last Of Us, but I am a bit more disappointed with Bioshock Infinite after my third playthrough. For one, I found vigors to be more annoying than powerful. In fact, only about three of them are even worth using, and you can go through the whole game using only guns. If you used only guns in Bioshock, you'd get fucked up. The vigors also felt out of place in Columbia, whereas the concept of Eve and Adam and plasmids in Bioshock was integral to the idea and story. Secondly, Infinite is a lot more constrictive. Bioshock had a lot more exploration, surprises, and interaction. Infinite seems like a hallway shooter with some dead ends thrown around that have some goodies on occasion. And lastly, Infinite kept throwing moral messages in your face the entire game, and despite the great ending, the story got stuck up it's own ass for a good chunk of the campaign.
Basically Infinite looks great, can be fun, and has its moments, but I wouldn't call it a classic or a masterpiece like the original Bioshock. We all know GOTY goes to Tomb Raider |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Heavy Rain was fuckin awesome I loved it.
And I would call Infinite's STORY masterful. However, it's gameplay is fairly generic. So the game as a whole isn't a masterpiece. |
Dunpeal
07.29.13 | lol tomraider. game was decent tho. would've been better had it come before uncharted, but it didn't |
Funeralopolis
07.29.13 | well put zombicidal |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Uncharted 2 and 3 are amazing too. I still liked Tomb Raider though. Not GOTY material but it was super fun while it lasted. |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | Fuck:
-The last of us, bioshock infinite, tombraider, uncharted, heavyrain, mainstream gay shiet |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | heavy rain is so good, and the new tomb raider is unreal. oh and fluttertrank please shut it |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Good one SweetCloset |
Chortles
07.29.13 | played infinite for prob about 10 hours total so far and it's incredible, best game i've played in years |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Good man. I looked past the generic gameplay cause they story is just too masterful and thought provoking. |
SweetCloset
07.29.13 | i was organizing Flutters thoughts for him |
Chortles
07.29.13 | the gameplay rules man |
ZombicidalMan
07.29.13 | Eh, Uncharted 3 was so uninspired. It was Uncharted 2 with a new coat of paint, albeit a sloppier, bird shit-ridden one. I would never call it amazing. |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | uncharted 3 was just as good wtf |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Personally I enjoyed the darker tone and better character development. That game was about the story for me. Graphics blew my mind at the time too. |
ZombicidalMan
07.29.13 | I can't think of one thing they improved. The just changed everything to fit the new location. Then they use the exact same story as the first two (yeah Uncharted 2 did this too), and add some fucking annoying drug sequences.
Not to mention after playing through Ucharted 1 & 2 made it so easy to predict what would go wrong in the level. You can see from a mile away when a brick you're hanging onto is about to fall. You can't make it up one goddamn ledge without something breaking off. I just found it irritating. |
Gyromania
07.29.13 | i'm going to have to side with mongi on this one. i thought it was darker and there were a tonne of amazing set pieces |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | I thought the father and son like relationship was very touching. And seeing sully get shot really made my heart skip a few beats. |
ZombicidalMan
07.29.13 | I don't think it's a bad game - but Uncharted 2 is a 10/10 in my books. So 3 would be like an 8.5. Something about it rubbed me the wrong way |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | Well shooting was a little bit cluckier for some reason haha |
ZombicidalMan
07.29.13 | Tomb Raider tho > |
Devastator
07.29.13 | Kingdom Hearts 3 (whenever it comes out) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else. |
Mongi123
07.29.13 | YESSSSS |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | So Flutter, does that also make the walking dead by telltale a shitty game? that was like all cut scenes. Same with the Kingdom Hearts games, they had a basic gameplay format but the true joy of those games came from the story. I just don't fully understand why Last of Us in particular this is a problem |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | Kingdom Hearts 3 (whenever it comes out) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
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lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | Okay, I can kind of understand what you're trying to say after reading everything but oh well people like the game, you didn't. No big deal. But yeah the walking dead needs all the love it can get, such a good game. I just don't think having gameplay to get to a cutscene is always a bad thing although I don't know in the case of The Last of us. |
lyzakthellama
07.29.13 | Gotcha |
Gwyn.
07.29.13 | Just came here to say that Heavy Rain was lol bad and anyone who thinks it has a good story or is a
good game has more than likely just never played an older Point-and-Click adventure.
And Infinite. |
UnnamedOcean
07.29.13 | Wow, some fucking critics in here. I'm not far into The Last of Us but it is easily one of the best games I have ever played thus far.
And yeah, Uncharted 3 was derivative and unoriginal. But the series was never very original in the first place and it's still really fun to play. |
UnnamedOcean
07.29.13 | Lol at flutter. Seems like you just don't like anything that is story-driven. Who the hell says a game can't be cinematic? You
would absolutely loathe MGS4. |
UnnamedOcean
07.29.13 | Well since you fail to even define what a great game is..... |
TenSecondsToThink
07.30.13 | The Last of Us is the most superficial shit since Heavy Rain. |
Mongi123
07.30.13 | "you must have never played much great games."
Dude gtfo |
Mongi123
07.30.13 | And yea no one ever said Uncharted was original. Standard first person platformer, and fun as hell to
play, but I still enjoyed the characters. |
Drummerboy123
07.30.13 | Remember GTA V and Watch Dogs comes out this year?
Still need to play BioShock Infinite and The Last of Us. Still amazed I haven't come across any spoilers so far....yet. |
Mongi123
07.30.13 | I'm surprised too haha people talk about it all the time on here. Try to avoid spoilers for Bioshock
it's for the best trust me |
Guzzo10
08.03.13 | the fact GTA5 hasn't even been talked about on here is ridiculous
GTA5 will obv win GOTY. Rockstar>everyone else. |
kingjulian
08.05.13 | I'm gonna get my head torn off for this but I actually enjoyed the Tomb Raider reboot more than both games. Bioshock Infinite collapsed under its own weight and The Last of Us is almost more of an interactive drama than an actual video game. |
climactic
08.05.13 | gta 5 looks unreal |
Guzzo10
08.05.13 | It really does. It looks like it improved the flawed mechanics from GTA4, and GTA4 at the time was amazing. So excited |