We Came As Romans   Understanding What We've Grown to Be
2.9 Release Date: 2011
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3.5 greatBlackLlama | August 29th 11

If you don't like metalcore, and you already know what it's going to be going into it, then why the fuck are you listening to it? Half the low ratings here are due to butt-hurt metal fanboys that haven't liked an album since 1985

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0.0 Destiny Victoria | August 28th 11

What a massive improvement in music, the array of uncommon instruments + the violin fueled guitar is fantastic.

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2.0 poormas westman | August 28th 11

Evolving and making a name for yourself in a certain genre of music: You're doing it wrong.

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3.5 greatJumpTheShark | August 31st 11

Sounds a lot like To Plant A Seed but the standouts are alone worth it... A War Inside has a killer orchestral sounding section in it...

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3.5 greatDischi | August 29th 11

Feels like a grower to me.. Guess I'd rate it a 3.5/5 but I feel the need to push it, just because a bunch of braindeads rated it without even listening.. thats so metal m/

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4.0 excellentsimonpettersen | September 12th 11

Approvement, much more catchy songs, but the clean vocals really does get kinda boring and annoying.

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3.0 goodChris Higgins | September 2nd 11

Understanding What We've Grown to Be is a slight improvement over To Plant A Seed, but it seems like as a band, We Came As Romans hasn't learned to much more about crafting an album. Still running into the filler problem, the biggest fault really comes down to their singer, who really isn't all that bad, but has no variation in pitch or melody. It sounds like he's singing the same notes in every song and it just becomes boring, taking away a huge element of the bands music. Stephens is awesome as a screamer and is backed up well by the music, but still a lot of this just feels copied and pasted from the bands previous album. There is a lot more work on sounds and experimentation with different synth effects and when they come around it's awesome, but it isn't enough to really help this album overcome what the band has done before. Label this as To Plant A Seed 2.0, because that's really all it is.

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0.0 rob g | August 28th 11

Horrible band makes horrible album. ok listened to it and yea it sucks so bad
This band will never cease to be anything more than a shit-stain on Michigan's reputation
for music.


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2.0 poorTanner Lichty (Twlichty) | September 14th 11

People saying "this is metalcore what do you expect" have got it all wrong. This music sucks, not all metalcore sucks. This isn't even what i would define as real metalcore, this is a bunch of punkass teenagers making "music" out of the gimmicks that are popular in the scene right now. Horrible excuse for music

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0.0 A J M H CONTRIBUTOR | September 13th 11

that ad on the top of the site makes them look like the biggest group of scenester fags the world has ever seen.

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2.0 poorlucasjcockcroft | September 12th 11

To Plant A Seed part 2. the only track that stands out out is mis//understanding.

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2.0 poorFabrizio Marra | August 30th 11

No improvement at all. Vocals are way too auto-tuned.

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2.5 averageKosherSoldier | August 28th 11

I expected much better from these dudes. The entire album sounds like a To Plant A Seed b-side.
There are some fun parts, but as a whole it's quite lackluster.


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0.0 Obfuscation24 | August 28th 11

i understand that theyve grown to be fuckin sweet m/

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3.0 goodManicanddisfigured | December 14th 14

I can't lie, these guys have always been a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. I also quite like 'The Way That We Have Been'. It's a bit cliche (like the rest of the record) but better than some of the other rubbish I've listened to.

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5.0 classicSlowlyFallingAwake | January 17th 13

In spite of the lack of technical proficiency (WCAR never planned on reinventing the wheel), Understanding what we've grown to be is an inspiring record with an overall positive message. At some points dragging, but only very slightly, it rolls on with great vigour. Tracks such as What I Wish I Never Had share blunt lyrics, which, nonetheless, are straight to the point and somehow manage to bring forward a message of solidarity and decisiveness.

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0.0 ASnideRemark | December 2nd 12

With almost every song sounding similar, We Came As Romans have made an album that is almost the sheer definition of mediocrity. With the only two memorable songs being "Mis//Understanding" and the title track, the album is plagued otherwise with monotonous clean vocals, uninteresting musicianship and repetitive song structures. However, there are positives to this album, such as the strong screams, the positive motivational lyricism and occasionally the guitar work can be quite catchy.

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2.5 averageMicah-Nahum Ferguson is reading again. | November 2nd 12

WCAR spends too much time trying to make every moment catchy and chuggy and forget to make things mildly different. This is far inferior to their previous full-length due to its simply annoying moments that prove how the band is trying to hard to be something they don't have to be.

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3.0 goodDeuce8311 | May 27th 12

I find this to be just a notch better than their first, but the two have some similarities. Just like the first album, there are some standout tracks "A War Inside" and "What My Heart Held" to name a few, but also their are some filler tracks. In order to be a great album, there has to be no filler and usually more experience, so maybe WCAR can do it in the next few years. They didn't overuse the electronics/keyboards in this one, and both vocalists seem to have improved a bit. As far as the rest of the band goes, they have never really been impressive, but they are good enough to make it an enjoyable record worth a few spins.

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3.0 goodMosh | January 6th 12

This is a very good album but there is only a slight improvement from the debut, which I expected them to have much more improvement.rp.s: The clean vocals are so annoying!

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2.5 averageBroManCaptainGuySirDylan | November 14th 11

Essentially To Plant A Seed 2.0, albeit with a bit more filler. If you enjoyed their first album, you'll enjoy this.

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2.0 poorArtie, The Strongest Man In The World | October 8th 11

You Left As Carthaginians

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3.5 greatc0nf1n3d | September 28th 11

It's definitely a step-up from "To Plant a Seed." But, yet it still feels like it should be a B-Side for the aforementioned album. Just because you decide to drop the guitar tuning from typical drop-D to drop-B, doesn't mean your songwriting style changes...it just means you're playing it in a different string tuning. Some songs feel like they shouldn't belong on the album at all...bringing it back to the whole "To Plant a Seed" B-Side thing. On a supremely positive note, songs like "Mis-Understanding", "Everything as Planned", "What I Wished I Never Had", "Stay Inspired", "I Can't Make Your Decisions For You", and the title track all show musical progression. We Came as Romans are repeating more choruses (staying true to their metalcore genre), and they're showcasing how they can be as a band together instead of trying to showcase each of the instrumentalist/vocalist's talent in those songs. The other songs seem to feel a bit off. The concept of the album is supposed to be a lyrical change from the beginning to the end, which definitely works, but musically wise while they have definitely crafted some remarkable tracks, it seems they still haven't quite understood what they've grown to be.

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0.0 Robert Lowe CONTRIBUTOR | September 14th 11

Dear We Came As Romans, your banner ad is almost as bad as your music

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0.0 PostModernJellyfish | September 12th 11

It's metalcore. Do I have to say anything else? I'm going back to my Earth Crisis.

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3.5 greatSpencer Patrick | September 12th 11

Minor improvement over To Plant a Seed, but that LP wasn't too flawed to begin with. Less filler this go around.

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3.5 greatthechodewarrior | September 11th 11

If you were a fan of the first album, you'll like this one. Not too much will try to change your mind if you didn't like them before.

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0.0 Shane B. | September 10th 11

We can all understand that the real butt-hurt person is BlackLlama and not the metal fans.

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3.5 greatiGuter | September 7th 11

Re-evaluate: The lyrics are strongly written, the sound keeps itself from trying to be generic (while fooling around with it), and it has an excellent orchestral vibe. The only downside is the always inconsistent fade in, fade out echo that seem to show up in every song.

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1.5 very poorjoelom | September 6th 11

mis//understanding and just keep breathing are the only decent tracks. all the other tracks have no pop and have uninteresting choruses. all the songs just sound like left over tracks from to plant a seed.

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2.0 poorkman123 | September 4th 11

While the first album was perfectly good, great even, powered by a huge live presence that should be seen to be appreciated, this album just seems so...lazy. Barely any songs warrant a second listening and most struggle through the first.

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3.0 goodrandomguitarist | September 2nd 11

An average album. Doesn't compare to "To Plant A Seed". Production is better, that's for sure. I'd give this a 3.25 out of 5.

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3.0 goodJustin Veltman | September 1st 11

What everyone else is saying.rOriginal? yep, just like WCAR

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3.5 greatDamon De Paolis | August 31st 11

Still sounds way too familiar , and way too much like To Plant A Seed, but it has its standout tracks such as A War Inside, Stay Inspired, What I Wished I Never Had and a few others. Not a bad listen, but still overall devoid of much progression. If you like them, pick it up; if you don't, listen to the songs I listed and make a decision from there

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