All That Remains
The Fall of Ideals


3.5
great

Review

by Drunken Viking USER (20 Reviews)
September 24th, 2006 | 148 replies


Release Date: 2006 | Tracklist

Review Summary: A huge step up from This Darkened Heart; The Fall Of Deals while being rather repetitive and seeming to follow similar structures, is still a solid effort and a great album for Metalcore.

All That Remains are a six piece metalcore act out of the birthplace of the genre, Massachusetts. Their latest effort The Fall Of Ideals has been getting tons of recognition from the metal community, hailed as the return of good metalcore. After all of this hype and a review expressing a 4.5/5 rating from a respected member I decided to check this album out, so after many days and a few torrents later I was finally able to hear what all of the fuss was about...

The Fall of Ideals is definitely and improvement from This Darkened Heart, which I really didn't like at all. Phil has gotten so much better at both clean and harsh vocals. Just listening to the incredibly high pitched opening scream on This Calling, or the low outro grunt on It Dwells In Me you can see he has so much range. And not only does he have range, his voice is extremely strong and powerful at any pitch. Sometimes, his voice really sounds off. Like for example, the incredibly low grunts on The Weak Willed, they sound so out of place. They really kill the atmosphere there. His clean voice is really powerful. On almost all the songs their will be at least one clean vox section. He doesn't have to much range in his clean voice sadly, he has some, but not nearly what his scream has.

The guitar work on this album is also exceedingly good. The solos while have some fast shredding parts, are also well thought out and display a good bit of emotion. The harmonies are also for the most part used nicely, I'd prefer if they used more than just 3rd harmonies, though. We Stand has a beautiful harmony/solo section. It flows very nicely with the song, and yet it's still very technical. Another thing I like about the guitars is the use of clean passages. They can be tedious at times, but also amazing at others. For example, the clean section in Six is astonishing All of this is not to say these guys are constantly amazing. Towards the end of the album, a lot of the riffs start to sound similar. Even the solos start to sound like they were all written in the same frame of mind. For the most part they each start out with a few bended and vibrated notes, some fast parts (I think I even heard some sweeping), and then directly following that they go back into having emotion. At first it sounded great, but after a few songs it started to get old. They should also stick to what they know. For example, Not Alone starts off sounding like an incredibly cliche progressive song, luckily that only lasts for a few moments.

The rhythm section is also very tight. The drumming on this album is superb. Very technical, Shannon is a beast, not only with his feet but also with his hands. However, I feel that he overplays at points. Sometimes his fills can really enhance songs, but it can also take away sometimes. You can tell that he is just trying to put in monster fill after monster fill. He also overuses his double bass a lot. Whenever I listen to the chorus of This Calling I always cringe at the repetitive 32nd notes he uses. It would sound so much better if not only he played slower, but if he was playing something that actually fit the song. Don't get me wrong though, he does have some great fills, and when he uses his bass pedals sparingly it sounds amazing, I just wish he do that more often. The bass however is almost completely out of the mix. The few times I can hear it though I'm not really impressed, which makes me think I'm not missing anything. This album would definitely bennefit from an original and good bassist too. It would help take away from some of repetitiveness of the album.

Overall, this is a solid effort, and a definately improvement from This Darkend Heart. If they spent more time writing songs, or even just released this as an EP it would be so much better. Half the album is really good, but the other half is just the same thing, save a few different riffs. The vocals are a nice change from the standard monotone screaming that is plaguing so much music out there. The instruments while all technically advanced (except maybe the bass) need to work on being 1.) consistent, and 2.) knowing when not to play. Still, this album is a good album, especially for metalcore.



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    Nick Habisch (5)
    A perfect blend of intensity and melody in one album of Metalcore perfection...

    sharkd93 (4)
    A Superb Listen From Beginning to End. Unfortunately There's a Lacking of Bass....

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    It'll have you banging your head and shouting along profusely....

    Matthew "Axl" Peck (4)
    Though it takes a turn towards "popular" generic modern metalcore, The Fall of Ideals demo...

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    An excellent effort which unites many new elements to All That Remains' music....

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Comments:Add a Comment 
Drunken Viking
September 24th 2006


1023 Comments


Heh I'm gonna stick with the 3. The second half of the album seems exactly like the first, and there are so many parts that don't fit. I might move it up to 3.5, we'll see in a few days.

You're welcome. :thumb:

Full Collapse299
September 24th 2006


507 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I absolutely love the clean vocal sections. Great review!

Thor
September 24th 2006


10200 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Very well written, but I really think that mudvaynian had it spot on. Your rating for this album is far too low.

Thor
September 24th 2006


10200 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

No problem. I agreed with just about everything your review said, exept your highlights list.

Drunken Viking
September 24th 2006


1023 Comments


Heh, I'll move it up to a 3.5, but I have trouble giving to much higher for reasons I've said.

Mikesn
Emeritus
September 25th 2006


3709 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Excellent review.

I'm not too fond of their music, but these guys put on a pretty good live show.

Digging: Grimes - Visions

Thor
September 25th 2006


10200 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I wouldn't go that far, but they're possibly the best metalcore band out there.

Shadows
Moderator
September 25th 2006


2530 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Speaking of which, the new KsE cover art is amazing.

Thor
September 25th 2006


10200 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yet another 2.5 from you? For shame!

loathed
September 25th 2006


174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This album definitely isnt only a 2.5 for me. More like a 4 for me. ATR has done a great great job on this album. and like what Thor said, one of the better metalcore bands out there. but sometimes, i wonder where the core suffix comes in...:confused:

and on another note, i cant wait for the new KsE album...This Fire Burns was a pretty above average song.This Message Edited On 09.25.06

Jom
Staff Reviewer
October 11th 2006


2688 Comments


Great review, I agree pretty much with your overall score. Phil definitely has improved, and the drumming is beastly on this album.
The only place where we differ is I don't think Shannon overplays as much as you claim. For instance, he doesn't really hit 32nd notes in "This Calling..." they're sixteenths, and what you think are sixteenths are actually eighth notes. But, that's how I've interpreted the song... I definitely could be wrong. But, I think logistically the song makes more sense where the incredibly fast parts are sixteenths and the other portion are eighths.
But again, that's just me, and I could be wrong, but that's the feeling I get out of my ears. And of course, this was a fantastic review.

KILL
December 26th 2011


71957 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gay review

also jom 3.5? yet he 1's good music

Digging: Exodus - Blood In, Blood Out

Spec
December 26th 2011


27188 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

But it's alright.

DarthMann
September 27th 2012


13815 Comments


whered the josh. d review go :[

DeadGuy
October 12th 2012


401 Comments


I remember jammin the fuck out to the solo in "It Dwells In Me" in my high school days hahaha

eyeofthestormtopass
October 26th 2012


9 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I agree that Shannon uses his double bass much too much in this album. I'd prefer it if he used his snares a lot more often than he does, but other than that I think this album is great, Phil has a great voice for both singing and screaming. The solos are well placed, and the lyrics are amazing.
In my opinion, of course.

Atari
Contributing Reviewer
November 8th 2012


19920 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

The only essential all that remains album m/

Digging: Transit - Joyride

Atari
Contributing Reviewer
November 8th 2012


19920 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Whispers (I Hear You) is my fav song i think

DarkSideOfLucca
November 8th 2012


3360 Comments


Yeah, this is a little generic for my taste but damn it's catchy- kind of like my guilty pleasure

Atari
Contributing Reviewer
November 8th 2012


19920 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

yeah i heard you saying it was generic in another thread lol. honestly i should proabably lower the rating but this is one of my first metalcore albums along with as i lay dying so very nostalgic for me.

Their new stuff SUCKS tho



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