Hinder
Take It to the Limit


3.0
good

Review

by thezouz USER (23 Reviews)
February 19th, 2019 | 25 replies


Release Date: 2008 | Tracklist

Review Summary: The problem with this record in general, even though it is more varied lyric-wise, is that it feels highly derivative.

No, it ain't Eagles, it is a sophomore effort from Oklahoma's dearest quintet, Hinder. On the wings of their mega-successful album "Extreme Behavior", they started off a new chapter with "Take it to the Limit".

There were certianly many problems with the debut; repetitive music, over-the-top vocals from Austin Winkler, no change in rhythm whatsoever, stale, unchanging and at time ridiculous lyrics... While I myself love said album, one can't ignore such issues.

In spite of all these problems, Hinder cracked the top 30 twice and even the top 3 with smash hit "Lips of an Angel". Which cannot be said about the first two singles leading into this record. Both "Use Me" and "Without You" went nowhere in the mainstream, and those two were literally the most popular songs. Both of these tracks are fine, I will even argue that they're both better than "Lips of an Angel", but the problem with this record in general, even though it is more varied lyric-wise, is that it feels highly derivative.

Influence is one thing, but the 80's hair metal sound bleeds through majority of "Take it to the Limit". A little bit of Def Leppard on said single "Without You", which is a decent ballad (although can get bland at times), and a strong Pour-Some-Sugar-On-Me feel on "Up All Night", which is honestly one of the better tracks on here, with good lead work and a great hook. That can also be said for the title track with its memorable lyrics and catchy riffs (and even a really decent solo from Mick Mars!).

There is a feel of Bon Jovi's "Livin' on a Prayer" to be found in "Loaded and Alone", which lyrically stands much taller than the rest, with some interesting lead and rhythm work from Joe Garvey and Mark King.

The one other major issue is that the song are, structure-wise, very similar to each other. Majority of the ballads follow the same progressions, and the first few hard rock songs, while good, have the same feel to them, and it becomes less engaging as it goes on. Lyrics are overall more varied than the last time around, but that is definitely not the case for the music.

Not to mention some of the songs feel painfully generic even for Hinder. "The Best is Yet to Come" is really just a throwaway track ("Heartless" or "Running in the Rain" from deluxe versions would fit much better). The same can be said about "Thing For You", which is as bland as it gets for Hinder. Acoustic arrangements with no memorable hook nor any interesting instrumental passages. "Far From Home" is a nice touch for the end, a nice heartfelt song about missing your family while you're on the road.

All this adds up to - a decent follow-up record. They are not reinventing the wheel, but just having a good time. I am aware of how ridiculously biased I came up in that "Extreme Behavior" review, but I really think this one, while -good-, it does not surpass its predecesor. It is not intelligent, but it doesn't need to be, it is just a feel good record with enough highlights to keep casual listener engaged for the most part.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Always felt like this was a slight step up from Extreme Behavior tbh

BigHans
February 19th 2019


30959 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Use Me is an all time jam

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

[2] and for a while I liked Without You in spite of the cheese

Valzentia
February 19th 2019


1410 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Your best review thus far

thezouz
February 19th 2019


71 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I actually like both "Use Me" and "Without You" unironically, but I really never felt this was in any way better than Extreme Behavior, many more filler and boring songs here for me.



Also WeepinnWillow thank

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

wait, you gave this a 4.5 rating and reviewed it at a 3? o.O

thezouz
February 19th 2019


71 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well, I kinda changed my game. It would be highly subjective to give this a excellent review. I kind of slowed down with my biased, and I want to be more objective about music I'm reviewing. I love Take it to the Limit still, but Im aware of many flaws that it possesses, and reviews really should be more objective.

thezouz
February 19th 2019


71 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I've gone over the top when I gave Extreme Behavior a 5, while actually criticising many things in it.

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, that makes sense. I typically rate based on what I feel it actually deserves, which is why even though I love the newest BFMV album, I still only gave it a 3.5 due to its flaws.

theacademy
Emeritus
February 19th 2019


31865 Comments


came here to double check that hans still likes "use me," which i will confirm is an all time jam.

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

SHE'S GONNA USE ME BUT I LIIIIIKE ITTTT

Valzentia
February 19th 2019


1410 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

tbh band does not deserve anything higher than a 1

Drifter
February 19th 2019


20847 Comments


"Well, I kinda changed my game. It would be highly subjective to give this a excellent review. I kind of slowed down with my biased, and I want to be more objective about music I'm reviewing. I love Take it to the Limit still, but Im aware of many flaws that it possesses, and reviews really should be more objective. "

"Yeah, that makes sense. I typically rate based on what I feel it actually deserves, which is why even though I love the newest BFMV album, I still only gave it a 3.5 due to its flaws."

wtf????????? why even rate things or review if you're gonna be "objective" and not true to how you feel?? smh hard


Valzentia
February 19th 2019


1410 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

why even rate things or review if you're gonna be "objective" and not true to how you feel?? [2]

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

You can love something while admitting it's not perfect, that's part of why I'm so picky with my 4.5's and 5's.

Drifter
February 19th 2019


20847 Comments


agent if you love that album give it a 4.5 or 5. so stupid when people do this

Drifter
February 19th 2019


20847 Comments


doesn't matter if there's flaws rate it high if you claim to love it

veninblazer
February 19th 2019


16838 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I love it but it's still not as strong as my love for Fever and The Poison when speaking of BFMV for an example. I honestly feel it's a pretty hard 3.5, maybe a light 4.

MarsKid
Emeritus
February 19th 2019


21030 Comments


It depends for me. Sometimes an album's subjective domain outweighs the flaws that I perceive, and vice versa. It also depends on what qualifies as an objective flaw in music.

PyramidNoise
February 20th 2019


547 Comments


This is definitely your best review thus far. Much better balance of objectivity and your own personal opinion. A lot of people on this site, including myself, get all up on objectivity, but remember it's still how you feel at the bottom of it.

@Drifter

Reviewing isn't simply giving everything you enjoy 5 stars imo. Needs a little more thought than that. There's context to consider.

Also just saying "I like this. 5 stars" would make a dull review.



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