Trash Talk
119


2.5
average

Review

by FlattedThird USER (10 Reviews)
January 24th, 2013 | 4 replies | 635 views


Release Date: 2012 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Trash Talk sprinkle in some Odd Future to appeal to a larger audience, which sounds about as bad as it reads.

1 of 2 thought this review was well written

I first listened to Trash Talk around 2007 or 2008 when I was in high school and didn’t really have a good grasp on hardcore. On the recommendation of a forum I frequented, I checked out their self-titled and I hated it. I just absolutely hated it. It was so noisy and abrasive and had no discernible song structure -- I was just a little baby who liked pop-punk. It was a horrible introduction to hardcore and I wasn’t comfortable checking them out again until I had really gotten into the genre.

Now, five years later, they’ve released 119. I’m sure that if this were the record I was introduced to in high school, I would have gotten into hardcore much earlier. That’s not necessarily a compliment, but at the same time, I’m not deriding it outright. 119, if nothing else, is accessible. It’s loud, but not noisy; it’s political, but not in a complex way; it’s fast, but not thrash; and finally, it’s slow but never gets to the apex of stoner-hardcore. It’s essentially tailor-made as a jumping off point for people who haven’t listened to hardcore. Though, there’s nothing bad with being a “gateway” band for a genre. Exclusivity is dumb, so if you can get a person into a genre, great.

I guess this album is just a bit disappointing. It always feels as if it’s going to break and explode into the glorious exercise of violence that Trash Talk was in the past, but it never really does. 119 is essentially a longer, less noisy, more boring version of last year’s Awake EP. Well, perhaps boring is a bit harsh. I do enjoy listening to this album, and skating to it is quite fun.

It has a much stronger first half than it does second. “Eat the Cycle” is a great opener and “My Rules” is enjoyable mosh bait. The only really, really strong song on the album is lead single “F.E.B.N.” Things get dicey about the time the band decided to have Hodgy Beats and Tyler, The Creator spit verses on “Blossom and Burn”, a song that otherwise would have been the standout track of 119. I understand the band probably enjoys working with their bosses - they are signed to Odd Future Records - but this was the largest misstep of the entire record. Hodgy’s verse is passable, as it fits in with the mix, but Tyler’s verse is godawful. I’ve never been Tyler’s biggest fan, but the verse is embarrassing. I’m a big believer that hip-hop and hardcore, at their roots, are very similar and can be used together to great effect. I still believe that, but “Blossum and Burn” certainly is not that product. From there, the record just tends to drag. 119 is only 22 minutes, but it feels like 35, which is a far too ambitious time marker for a hardcore band.



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XingKing
January 24th 2013



10329 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I hate this album so much.

YankeeDudel
January 24th 2013



9311 Comments


yea they need to stay trve to who they are

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GiaNXGX
January 25th 2013



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slimdaddy
April 22nd 2013



428 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Honestly, I have always hated Tyler, The Creator. I hate his style, flow, voice, and dark violent lyrics. But actually I found "Blossom and Burn" to be a pretty good track! I mean unnecessary but still



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