Like Moths to Flames
When We Don't Exist


2.5
average

Review

by Ryan Lizotte USER (24 Reviews)
November 7th, 2011 | 71 replies | 24,268 views


Release Date: 2011 | Tracklist

Review Summary: As painfully average as average can possibly be. At least they don't have synths, though...

10 of 10 thought this review was well written

Rise Records has had a recent history of pumping out generic, faux-metal bands since the inclusion of The Devil Wears Prada to their roster in 2006. Each band thereafter, with very few exceptions, have served up the same generic metalcore sound. There seems to be hardly any variety as far as these bands go (once again, with very few exceptions). Like Moths to Flames is unfortunately no exception to this generic, rise-core sound. This debut offers hints of slight progression as a band, albeit lacking any type of complexity whatsoever.

Like Moths to Flames is the brain-child of former Agraceful (and Emarosa) vocalist, Chris Roetter. Roetter teamed up with musicians from the metalcore outfit, Terrafirma, to round up the 5-piece that is Like Moths to Flames. Very much like their Rise counterparts The Plot In You, The Color Morale, and My Ticket Home, Like Moths to Flames just brings nothing new to the table, at all.

Unfortunately, each song suffers from the same annoying qualities. There is not one song on here that doesn't include an unnecessary amount of dissonance and clean vocals. Primarily, each song starts off with a generic, metalcore riff, and then collapses into a melodic mess. The clean vocals in each of these songs are forced, and really don't help the music at all. Songs like "No Hope", "Something to Live For", and "My Own Grave" are plagued by this problem. To be honest, some of these songs would be completely passable as straight-forward metalcore, had they not been ruined by the appearance of awful clean vocals. The dissonance factor tends to speak for itself.

In addition to the cleans, this album suffers from absolutely no varied song structure at all. Each song features the intro riff-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-breakdown formula. This is nothing new in the world of rise-core, but it is still annoying nonetheless. Breakdowns are also aplenty, obviously. Truthfully, they all share a similar mediocrity. There may not be one that stands out more than the other, they just sound inexhaustibly dull and similar.

The guitar parts are sufficiently generic, and heavy. The only real comparison I can think of, are to the guitar parts of Bring Me the Horizon. The "wall of sound" technique is in constant use here, for there is always a low guitar riff lurking in the bottom of each mix. "My Own Grave" offers a bit of diversity, as far as the guitar goes, in the early part of the song. Expect many chugs, for that's the majority of what you will get. I don't think that's a huge surprise though.

The couple of songs that stand out as different ("Your Existence" and "GNF") are ironically the songs that feature llittle, to no clean vocals at all. The latter features a small snippet of Roetter's cleans before diving down into a dissonant breakdown. Quite a commonplace of this album, as you will eventually find out. In addition to those two tracks, the intro track, "The Worst In Me" is actually catchy enough to gain a bit of replay value, and stands as one of the best on the album.

Aside from the aforementioned problems, the music is generic, simple, and borders enjoyable at some rare points. Roetter's growl is a driving point of this album, and adequately breaks through and takes center-stage at some points. You can tell that the drummer is talented, as he always seems to be in the middle of a fill, or a complex double-bass pattern.

"When We Don't Exist" is not horrible. It's just too average to be considered anything else. With more overall originality, and a stronger musical diversity, Like Moths to Flames has the potential to improve, drastically. Overall, just an average album.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
lucasjcockcroft
November 7th 2011



3706 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

baddddddddddd

jacobxross
November 7th 2011



32 Comments


good review. i think you may have over rated against your review but posd.

Scoot
November 7th 2011



17733 Comments


i'm sure this is crap

xandermander
November 7th 2011



626 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SOUND LIKE THIS, Chris Roetter?

bbdmittenz
November 7th 2011



218 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

rise-wise - the plot in you > this > memphis may fire.
PIT being a 2
MMF being a 3.5/4
this kind of fits snug in the middle like a 2.5.

accompliceofmydeath
November 7th 2011



4200 Comments


You can just tell by the typeset of the band name this isn't going to be good.

Digging: Devo - Freedom of Choice

SmokingTheClouds
November 7th 2011



639 Comments


Logo looks like the EXACT same as Drop Dead Gorgeous' & Ice Nine Kills.
Why?

xandermander
November 7th 2011



626 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Rise has so few bands that are even listenable. I do find pleasure in The Color Morale and Memphis May Fire, and a couple of their pop-punk bands, but this and Legend and For the Fallen Dreams all sound so samey and boring as fuck.

bbdmittenz
November 7th 2011



218 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

catchy enough for rise? choruses are generally catchy on SOME level.

bbdmittenz
November 7th 2011



218 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

yeah pretty much. xD

jacobxross
November 7th 2011



32 Comments


I think he's cleans sound kinda awful though, and mit, you know he doesn't hit that shit live.

Devastator
November 7th 2011



2485 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Drummer is pretty good. Followed him from his old band To the Lions. Great talent wasted in a bad band.

RobotJesus
November 8th 2011



432 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I wish To The Lions would get back together Breathless is still my jam

tresm87
November 8th 2011



749 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5





Digging: Upon a Burning Body - The World is My Enemy Now

tresm87
November 8th 2011



749 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

3.2/5 has it's moments

ILJ
November 8th 2011



6666 Comments


rise-wise - the plot in you > this > memphis may fire.

I was about to be totally confused.
Then I realized you just don't know how to use "" signs. You did this backwards. Should be "The Plot In You

ILJ
November 8th 2011



6666 Comments


Why the fuck won't sputnik load my comment correctly.

Goddamnit sputnik.

DropdeadWHA
November 8th 2011



577 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Pretty much agree with the review, although I enjoy Roetter's screamed vox a lot. His singing is hit and miss on this album, choruses are a bit cheesy. Prefer this to their EP, though.

RosaParksLikesCock
November 8th 2011



7 Comments


Chris Roetter rules! :D

artificialbox
November 8th 2011



628 Comments


Hahaha "risecore"



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