Thrice
Beggars


3.0
good

Review

by Sowing STAFF
September 16th, 2009 | 32 replies


Release Date: 2009 | Tracklist

Review Summary: As you lie in bed does the thought haunt your head that you’re really, rather small? If there’s one thing I know in this life we are beggars all.

Well I’ve done it. Months of hype and I’ve managed to dodge every temptation thrown my way to listen to Thrice’s Beggars before its true release date. While I could have downloaded the album off of itunes, I wanted to buy a hard copy of the CD to continue my ongoing collection that includes every album and EP. Pointless? Maybe. But it provides some insight as to why I am writing what must by now be a completely unnecessary review. So now that I achieved whatever smug feeling of accomplishment I was looking for, I can finally settle down and give Beggars a proper review.

One thing most fans will notice on Beggars is the near absence of heavier tracks. Like Water, Air, and Earth before it, Beggars has a sleepy feel to it. Although this suggests that the album will be boring, it is actually quite the opposite. Thrice seems to have hit a groove and every track belongs on the album, right in the order in which they placed it. There are only two exceptions to the album’s smooth, slow pace: "At The Last" and "Talking Through Glass". At The Last is the stronger of the two tracks, reminding me of something that could have been on The Artist and The Ambulance. Both songs boast a heavy introduction and slightly rougher vocals from Kensrue, but at the end of the day, they end up being relatively forgettable. They are both pretty standard Thrice songs, and neither branch out into anything that I would consider to be new. With that said however, Beggars also has its share of memorable moments. The opening track "All The World Is Mad" is catchy as can be, albeit more mainstream than the songs that follow. Dustin’s vocals are at the forefront, perhaps contributing to the song’s accessibility. It isn’t the best song on the album, but it hooks the listener and provides a worthy introduction to "The Weight"; a must-hear track from this album. It seems to be an all-inclusive song of the sounds of Thrice: It possesses nifty guitar work, soft vocals, screaming vocals, relatable lyrics…for some reason it reminds me of For Miles from Vheissu, which isn’t really an accurate comparison outside of the numerous styles included within the same song and the transition from soft to screaming vocals. In any case, "The Weight" is a definite highlight.

The real gems on the album once again come in the form of slower songs. Circles, a Water-influenced ballad, is as relaxing as it is beautiful – it takes you into a dream-like atmosphere created by Dustin’s soothing voice and the stripped down instrumentation – all the while rocking you to sleep with a simple back-and-forth type of drum beat. The guitar solo at the end is when the song elevates itself from “calming” to “breathtaking”. It isn’t a particularly difficult riff or anything, but it is so well placed in the song and adds an element of splendor to it that makes it feel epic. "In Exile" as well as "Wood and Wire" are also standout moments, creating an atmosphere as Circles does, but in a completely new and interesting way. "In Exile" is particularly intriguing, with an infectious beat and outstanding vocal rhythm that seems to lend itself to more of a folk style of music (something that Thrice seems to have adopted more and more, going back to The Alchemy Index: Earth).

Other than the excellent ballads, the big selling point on Beggars is without question the deep, intelligent, probing, and thought provoking nature of the lyrics. The best example to showcase this is the title track, which is also quite possibly the best song on the record. It examines how humans, no matter our class, stature, or accomplishments, are all ultimately powerless: All you great men of power, you who boast of your feats / Politicians and entrepreneurs / Can you safeguard your breath in the night while you sleep? Keep your heart beating steady and sure? / As you lie in bed does the thought haunt your head that you’re really, rather small? / If there’s one thing I know in this life we are beggars all. The lyrics in this song, as well as the ones that span the album, are so good that I have spent almost as much time reading the inside of the CD cover as I have listening to the music. Dustin Kensrue really outdid himself this time, and might have created their best lyrical album to date (which is saying a lot).

Despite all of this, when I look back at the album as a whole, I get an empty feeling. Outside of the ballads and top-notch lyrics, Beggars doesn't really bring anything new to the table. For a band that is labeled as experimental, as well as a band that I have watched and listened to as they grew into respected artists, I just don't feel blown away like I did with Vheissu, The Artist in the Ambulance, or The Illusion of Safety. It may need more time to sink in, but I have a feeling that time isn't the issue here. There simply isn't enough on Beggars to make me want to come back to it. As a listening experience, it is very good, but most of it sounds like standard, typical Thrice, which is amazing, but it isn't new. The lyrics and a handful of ballads save Beggars from being average, but they aren't enough to place this album among the likes of Thrice's best work.



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Romulus
September 17th 2009


9109 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Well yes. Nothing wrong with the review though.

BallsToTheWall
September 17th 2009


51216 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Good review.

Prophet178
September 17th 2009


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Longer wait = bigger disappointment? I would disagree too, this is probably my favorite Thrice.

BallsToTheWall
September 17th 2009


51216 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Funny, this is my least favorite thrice.

JacobsLadder
September 17th 2009


573 Comments


Is it bad if I still haven't heard this?

pizzamachine
September 17th 2009


27110 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Not at all. I applaud you for your ignorance. Seriously, this album is nothing special.

JacobsLadder
September 17th 2009


573 Comments


Yeah I will be really surprised if this tops Daisy for me.

Masochist
September 17th 2009


9167 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The review was well written, but from the way you wrote it, it doesn't seem like a 3...more a 3.5, or even a 4 (but probably a 3.5). This sentence alone should raise it above a 3:



As a listening experience, it is very good, but most of it sounds like standard, typical Thrice, which is amazing, but it isn't new.




But as I said, other than the rating, it was a good review.

redsparrow
September 17th 2009


431 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

LOLOLOLOLOLOL at the reviewer username. Downgrading Beggars to make Daisy look good. So obvious.



I'm SO reviewing Beggars now. It's well written, but the rating is completely wrong.

Prophet178
September 17th 2009


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Ah, it all makes sense now, Redsparrow is a Thrice fanboy.

redsparrow
September 17th 2009


431 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

@Prophet178



I'm a Thrice fanboy as I am a Brand New fanboy. Look at my ratings first.



Above all, I'm a fan of good music. This is at least a 3.5. Even if you don't like them.

Prophet178
September 17th 2009


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

True that. I agree on both records.

Aids
September 17th 2009


24509 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Good review, bad rating. Although, this did drop from a 4.5 to a 4 for me.

XXXpickemgenius
September 17th 2009


139 Comments


This...

"Despite all of this, when I look back at the album as a whole, I get an empty feeling"

and...

"It may need more time to sink in, but I have a feeling that time isn't the issue here. There simply isn't enough on Beggars to make me want to come back to it. As a listening experience, it is very good, but most of it sounds like standard, typical Thrice, which is amazing, but it isn't new"

This.


Super review.

Sowing
Moderator
September 17th 2009


43943 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I created my username and account over a year ago. Beggars was probably only in the works, redsparrow. And I rate pretty strictly, I've never given an album a 5. Hence why this is a 3, not a 3.5 or 4. If it grows on me in the future I'll adjust the rating, but until then I'll be awaiting the release of Daisy.

Knott-
Emeritus
September 17th 2009


10260 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I think you underrate this because of expectations; this is not a typical Thrice record, and it's not meant to be experimental or 'new'; it's something of a resume of their work up to now, from a different perspective and with a slightly different slant and some excellent songwriting to boot. I picked this up physical and it's still as flawless as when I wrote my review.



All that said, the thing's very well-written, so I pos'd; I just disagree entirely.

EasternLight
September 17th 2009


2711 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I neeeeeeed this. But lack of munnies. I may whore myself out...or...wait was that contest over?

Sowing
Moderator
September 17th 2009


43943 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I can see how it might be a resume of their work to date, but I feel like the Alchemy Index already accomplished that. I was really hoping that since Thrice self-produced this album that they'd create something wiith no boundaries.

redsparrow
September 17th 2009


431 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

They did what I and many others think as their best album to date.



I think it's really funny to watch reaction to people that have amazing musical tastes but aren't that much of Thrice fans while listening this. This ex I keep in touch plainly loved this. Not every other band will rip off other bands; some will perfect their craft. That's what I feel while listening this record, The sound of a band at the peak of their game.



Talking about that, really nice BBC review:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/q6xm

endlessartix
September 20th 2009


275 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This is good, but doesn't deserve the hype. I was quite frankly kind of bored at times. I would much rather have preferred an album like the Fire disc of The Alchemy Index, or even the Water.



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